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Passing on this story (30)

1 Name: Tanaka : 2017-09-17 00:49 ID:tsC1imWB [Del]

This is the idea for a story I thought was interesting and was wondering if anyone thinks they could write it. The reason I can’t is because it’s a very in-depth world, and requires a lot of investment and time, in which I am more focused on other projects. I’m only doing this because I know that I won’t be able to write this story to its full potential. However, if someone does want to write this, then I don’t mind helping out with some of the brainstorming and mechanics of the world, but my intention is to pass this story to someone else.

And I’m going to say now, that it’s going to be a really long post, because there’s a lot to explain about how this world works. Also, let me know if this kind of story has been done before.

This is an in-depth idea, and even everything here isn’t everything I have, so feel free to ask questions but if someone does end up writing this world I can message them more of the details I’ve come up with, and other things I thought of for the world, which they can choose to use or change, as it is their choice completely.

The main focus of this world, when coming up with the idea, was the aesthetics, because I feel like it could have some great art for the scenery. The main concept behind this world, is that the planet itself is hollow. To explain how this works, and what the current world is like, I’m going to have to explain a bit of the history and things that happened.

Over time people found holes that seemed to be endless. Eventually, people started depositing waste and scrap metal into these holes, and more holes started appearing throughout the world. Another thing to note is that this planet gets hit by a lot of asteroids, which obviously cause the world to break, causing more of these holes that lead to the center of the earth, but also giving the world an excessive supply of metal (because these asteroids are space metal or something). Eventually, the scrap metal, waste and earth that was deposited to the center, got pulled together from the gravity to create a small landmass, a sphere, almost like a little planet at the center of the actual planet.

A lot of things happened, and the world evolved over time. Some people fell, and other people jumped with parachutes to go their intentionally. Eventually, they installed these high-tech parachutes, attached to walls and the ground under the earth, that would sense if someone fell, so that they could attach to them and carry them down safely. People ended up living in this little sphere at the center of the earth. The world kept changing and evolving, and people started having strange customs related to the center planet. One thing people started to do is donate food, intentionally depositing food to the people down there, to clear their guilty conscious’. But the biggest thing that happened, is when people decided to send their kids down there.
There are many reasons why people started doing this. One is a way of not feeling bad for having an abortion, because if they didn’t want the kid they could send it down the hole, never to see them again, and know that people down there would look after them. Another reason was the age of the people on the surface. Some cities and areas decided to have a minimum age to stay in the city, making it so that any babies born would have to be sent down the hole.

That’s a general idea of how the world evolved to become like this. In the current world, people are given specially made, back packs that are parachutes, that they have to wear at all times. They discontinued the parachutes built into the walls, but there are still a lot there, so if you fell, it would be pure chance if you were in range of any, and if they still worked. The center earth became a small city, and grew in size.

The biggest thing to happen, was that there was a rumour that someone created a path that leads to the surface. A lot of people down there, don’t bother trying to climb up the path, that supposedly leads to the center, but there are often groups of adventurers, who set out to attempt this challenge, and no one really knows what happens to them. The story would be about a group of people who start off in this city, in the center of the planet, and decide to try and get to the surface. The main character/s would be from an orphanage there, abandoned as babies, and now old enough to finally be allowed to leave. There could be someone who lived on the surface, where in his city, it was custom to throw their kid down the hole, when they reached a certain age, or maybe they were hidden and kept in secret, but one day got caught and thrown down. There could also be people who were trying to climb up but fell sometime through their journey, ending up at the center of the planet again.

The reason I really liked this world, is because the goal is very clear, and it’s a very honest goal to simply progress and reach the top. It also does have a lot of room for expanding, because you can put a lot of thought into how the world works. Different cities will each have their own stories, especially on the surface where there will be different customs and rituals that the cities follow. One other thing I like, is that people don’t die. When things happen, people will fall, and there will be the mystery of if they survive, and what happens to them afterwards, when the group continues to travel. You could even have the stories of multiple groups, travelling parallel, maybe with characters from one group who fell and joined a different one.

The characters themselves would each find out about their pasts when/if they end up reaching the city that they were born in. They could also hear rumours and stories from other travelers and people about what happened to their city/parents. This makes it so that there is a lot that you can plan for later in the story when they do reach the surface.

You could even expand it from there and have floating islands, and have strange paths to get there, so that they’re going even higher than the surface, continuing to climb up, but it’s up to you.

But one thing really important to note about this idea, is that you would need to figure out an interesting path leading from the center of the planet, the starting city, to the surface. There could be history behind who came up with it, built it, or how it started, but in the end, it should be a very main part of the story, and probably should be something that people have never done before. The reason I’m bringing attention to this, is because I never really knew how to go about it. The small sphere in the middle, can’t be a place where you can walk around on all sides, because otherwise there wouldn’t be any way to get to the surface. There has to be some kind of massive wall or path, that goes out of range of people’s vision, so that it’s a mystery as to how far it goes, and if it reaches the top.


I’m going to leave it at that for now. If I forgot something or have anything else to say then look for my future posts. But now to the question: Would anyone be interested in writing this story? Or would multiple people be interested in it, and want to work together?

There are many options to be honest. I mean, if there’s enough people who like this setting, we could even write multiple stories by different authors that take place in this same world, maybe even potentially at different times. Heck, I might even join in if that happens.

But for now, I’m just putting this out in the open. If anything becomes of this, then that’s enough for me. See ya~

2 Name: Snyper : 2017-09-17 01:39 ID:hMMYisyq [Del]

Okay. I am going to say this right now, this is a great idea for a story. I want to know how you came up with it, that's what I really want to know.

I would love to write this story myself, but my level of skill is far too little for a story like this. I am not that good a creative writer yet. So someone else, please write it for me. In the future, I may try, but I can't at the moment.

3 Name: Firion !ZeMESPtKtE : 2017-09-17 23:16 ID:tPTYIkua [Del]

really interesting that my heads already started to work automatically.

Dollars Wattpad is one answer but I don't know

4 Name: Firion !ZeMESPtKtE : 2017-09-18 08:07 ID:tPTYIkua [Del]

y'know I started to grow some interest in your concept, tell us more about it

5 Name: Tanaka : 2017-09-19 05:03 ID:tsC1imWB [Del]

I'm glad you found this idea interesting. I really hope this ends up becoming some kind of story.

>>2 I don't exactly remember, but I think I came up with the idea when thinking about falling very long distances into complete darkness, like when it looks like it's never ending. Another thing I did find interesting, is what the planet would look like if there were holes the size of oceans, and covered large areas of the world, both small and large scale. You would see deserts with holes in the ground everywhere like small puddles or larger pits, but none of these holes would have a bottom. I found the idea of the earth being hollow interesting, and then figured that gravity would always end up having some kind of landmass in the center exist, so why not have people live there?

Also, now that I think about it, the premise of this story is pretty much the reverse of Journey to the Center of the Earth, where they start in the middle and aim to climb to the surface.

I guess, this isn't really an idea for a story, but more of an idea for a world, as my focus has always been on designing the world in an interesting way, and how it would function. Things like characters and the plot I can't say I have much more for, apart from the vague things I mentioned earlier.

I don't know how big a deal this is, but I never mentioned it yet so why not. One thing I did think would be an interesting idea in the center city, would be having shops that sell supplies and things for climbing, but more specifically, weights. Maybe I've got my science wrong, but I think in the center of the earth the gravity would be weaker, so some people who live there wear these weights so that they will be more used to living on the surface, and the climb up to the surface.

But some more things to think about when it comes to this world, is how they go about protecting the city from things that fall from above. Literally everything that falls from the surface will end up on the smaller sphere in the center of the planet. People and supplies will often have parachutes, but just bits of earth, and waste deposited would be very dangerous. I don't know if they will make it so that certain areas are designated for this, or if they live underground in some places, or if they just risk it and people get injured a lot, but it is an important factor.
Now that I think about it, the path to the surface would probably go through this area where things are dropped intentionally, so that could be one of the reasons people often don't do it, because you could easily be crushed.

It does make me wonder if there should be a group of people to brainstorm and figure out this world together, because the more I think about it, more details and factors need to be figured out, because it's like we're creating our own world. Like is everyone going to be the same race, or will people be different races, because anyone can fall from the surface, no matter where they are, so it's not like there's going to be only one race of people there.
Are we going to have other planets/aliens? The reason I'm throwing this out there is because the planet could end up having a metal frame, of a certain shape, and everything that isn't over this metal will eventually fall over time. It could be like a self-fulfilling prediction some aliens bet over, as to what shape the planet would be or something. I doubt this kind of story would go this way, but I found the idea kind of funny.
And what about technology? Is there a reason why people can't just create vehicles and fly to the surface?

The way I see it is that there will be different arcs of this story. The first would just be in the city, maybe different stories about what it's like there, and to introduce the characters, and lead up to when they decide to go. After that, there would be the journey to the surface, which might have multiple arcs. Maybe there will be a point where all travelers stop, because they reached the furthest it looks like it's possible to go. It could even end up being like a little city or something, halfway to the surface. They would then, somehow, make it past that point, to where people from the surface have access to, the lowest surface point, where there could be a city there, waiting to see if anyone actually ends up making it there, but also maybe hiding from other cities different laws and rituals to send people down the hole. They would then travel on the planets surface, looking to find their birth cities, and find out what happened to them, and their families, maybe each getting separate arcs. It depends how long we would want the story to go, but there can be other groups of travelers, people who fall and have to travel up from the center city, changes to the world, and things like that. And if we wanted to climb highers, we could have floating masses of land in the sky, and even go sci-fi and have other planets or something, if we wanted to, maybe even somehow accessible by climbing or something.

That's just a rough overview of how I pictured it, but it's obviously way too early to be thinking that far down the track, especially since I most likely won't end up being the one to write it. The idea is that it's going to be really long, both in story, but also in the depth of the world, so it will take a lot of time to figure out all of the details.

One last thing I wanted to add, is an idea for a character/theme I had. I don't know how weird it comes across and sounds, but I like the name Nomlas. I got the idea from a manga I read, which I honestly forgot what it was called. There was a line in it that went along these lines "They say a salmon always finds their way back home", which is a great theme for this story for obvious reasons. (also Nomlas is Salmon backwards, just to clarify).

So, it does make me wonder, how does writing a story as a group work? Would it just be one person actually typing it all, and the rest all come up with ideas and characters and stuff, helping to figure out all of the details.

Would anyone be interested in making a group to work on this story/setting?

And just to clarify, I will always be following this thread, and read every reply. I'm not going to forget about it, or ignore it or anything.

6 Name: Chronos!8NBuQ4l6uQ : 2017-09-19 06:46 ID:abv95YC3 [Del]

I didn't read your post.

Still, posting an idea as gigantic as this is rather stupid.
Instead of searching for someone who writes your story, you should try to write it yourself.
Just imagine someone writes it, publishes it and earns money with your idea. How would you feel? Shitty?
Don't forget that the world isn't as good as you think, people are corrupt.
Furthermore will no one be able to write your story the way you want it to be. In the end you would only regret leaving your idea to others.
My advice is: Delete this post, write your own story and thank me in the future.

7 Name: Tanaka : 2017-09-19 07:28 ID:tsC1imWB [Del]

>>6 It's not that I'm looking for someone to write my story but rather that I'm putting an idea out there in case anyone thinks they can expand upon it enough to make it a story. Despite how much I posted, it's not nearlyr enough to write the story.
And to clarify, I already have multiple stories I'm writing that I've been working on that are more of a focus because I've already started them. If I did have time I might try writing this one, but I simply won't. It's something that's hard to explain and harder to understand.

8 Name: Firion !ZeMESPtKtE : 2017-09-19 08:43 ID:tPTYIkua [Del]

My grammar is lower than a potato, the only thing I can help is by giving you ideas & if possible, a plot. Maybe we can make a team to make it?

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10 Name: Chronos !OLodFucK0U : 2017-09-20 19:33 ID:abv95YC3 [Del]

Fine. I read your post.
The idea is amazing and would be a real challenge to write.

Making a small group to work that story out would be pretty cool (we could also help each other with grammar etc >>8).
If you'd create a group, I'd participate.
I guess it could be fun if we worked out something together.

>>7 I see. Just wanted to warn you.
My story material has been stolen once, therefore I feel like it'd be my duty to warn others of sharing too much information.

11 Name: Firion !ZeMESPtKtE : 2017-09-22 08:23 ID:F/HK1CLa [Del]

I AM SO GOING INTO THIS HUGE PROJECT

12 Name: Tanaka : 2017-09-24 00:41 ID:2V9Vb9nO [Del]

If we were to do this as a group, it would require a lot of organization, and a good set up established so that we can actually go about working on the world and story itself. We would need some way of communication because this thread won’t be enough, as well as some way of having stored notes online that we can all access and contribute to. We would need to have discussions on different aspects and factors related to the world, and if possible, it might be better to have times when we communicate in real time.

The thing is, if this is going to be a thing, then we would need a lot of organization and leadership. Unless someone takes charge and does this, it will all just fall apart. My intentions originally were to pass this story on to someone else, so I’m not really in the best position to organize something like this and always be there to help with things. I will try and help and contribute, especially with the starting notes and what I have for it, as well as helping out with the organization, but it would be better if someone else does take this kind of role.

I feel like getting this properly started will be the hardest part, but if we can get something working, then who knows, maybe this will end up being a thing.

13 Name: Firion !ZeMESPtKtE : 2017-09-24 21:30 ID:8v4O5wuc [Del]

>>12 Heard of trello?

14 Name: Chronos !OLodFucK0U : 2017-09-25 03:17 ID:abv95YC3 [Del]

>>12 Right.

>>13 Yeah... it's... something XD

Firstly it would be helpful if we exchanged emails to gather the thoughts of everyone. I guess everyone has already something in mind and I think it is very important to gather all of these thoughts, like a group brainstorming.
And later when enough information is gathered, we could discuss the ideas via chat or email or whatever to see what we actually use or how all the ideas are combinable.

Speaking of ideas, it's not only designing the universe Tanaka kindly described in a very extensive way, we also need characters, their background story, their relationships, their fate etc. And of course we need to develop a storyline.
In my opinion creating the characters and the plot could be more difficult than designing the world itself :o

Plus, I guess that everyone is kind of busy (school, work, whatever) and lives in another time zone. I'm an university student, living in Japan.
Firion lives in Indonesia (time zone is almost the same).
I don't know whether Snyper is interested or not, but I think he lives in Australia...
Let's ask: Snyper - interested? Bad writing skills as a creative writer are not relevant! You have an interesting worldview and could contribute interesting ideas ^^

15 Name: Firion !ZeMESPtKtE : 2017-09-25 08:56 ID:8v4O5wuc [Del]

real time chat is needed? tell me when we get on it, is trello needed? cuz I already made one lol, now give me all your Email you grownups! And how about the "Bad-English-ian" only write a rough draft? the "Good-English-ian" will consider it and if approved they will correct it, How about that?

Snyper, you in?

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17 Name: Snyper !svMS/p8SOo : 2017-09-25 22:30 ID:hMMYisyq [Del]

I have no idea what you both expect of me, but if you both want me to be a part of this as well, then I will be. Just send me an email to my dollars email (snyper.dollars@gmail.com) and I'll reply as soon as I can. I'd gladly participate.

But as an idea for the entire group, how about we organise it into planners, checkers and writers? It's a small group now, but we can make it larger later if we need to. And to start off, with just us lot, we will need to not only create the characters, but rewrite the rules of the world in a little more detail. The information we were given has plenty of it, but for a full length story we are going to need to separate it into; setting, background, rules, current events. Unless we do that, anything we write will just be confusing.

And to create the characters, we are going to need to think about it a lot. Why don't we start by all thinking of a character and proposing it to everyone else. Then everyone can work together to find improvements for the characters that they and others created, and it would make our main characters. We could do this as an entry test as well for new people who want to join. You would need to start by coming up with a new character.

And as Tanaka said in >>12 we will need a lot of organisation. One of us is going to have to step up to be a leader, and it can't just be someone voting themselves. Unless we all agree on it, it will just cause conflict for the group later on.

Also, >>14 yes, I do live in Australia. So I'm an hour behind you. That shouldn't cause too many problems. And I'm still in school at the moment, graduating soon, but I still should be free quite often. If you send me an email I can reply from anywhere. My email is linked up to my phone, so I can access it anywhere.

18 Name: Firion !ZeMESPtKtE : 2017-09-25 23:55 ID:EzNJL95m [Del]

any help would be needed, So you're in huh?
New Idea! the characters would be made based on a few dollars members!

19 Name: Chronos !OLodFucK0U : 2017-09-26 01:45 ID:abv95YC3 [Del]

I'm glad that you participate, Snyper ^^
Everything you just said was brilliant.

Just a few things I have in mind right now:

I. Organisation
My email is: Chronos.Dollars0404@gmail.com
(Firion, post your email or write me and Snyper lol)

Firion, just explain the basics of trello a bit, then we can think about whether we need it or not ^^

How would you like to work?
I thought of creating an email list where we collect our first thoughts and then when everyone read everything, we could create a chat or whatever somewhere and discuss everything to chose how we actually work in the end.
I would also recommend that everyone writes an email with all thoughts in their head, including:
- the design of Tanakas world
- ideas for the plot
- ideas for characters
- every random stuff that came to your mind while reading Tankas post lol
Like Snyper said before we have to create a completely new realm based on the information we got from Tanaka and every detail/thought could be helpful to make Tanakas world alive.

The roles of everyone:
I think it would be the best to think out the basics together, because if A invents something B doesn't like, the possibility that B leaves the team is rather high :/
After we formed our base for the project, we can split into writers, checkers or whatever you like to be.
Any preferences? Who likes to write? Who likes to check? Who has no preferences? Hahaha
I'd do both ^^

II. Characters
That everyone creates a character isn't a bad idea, Snyper. Have you ever thought of what would be if we wrote in different perspectives?
For example everyone creates a character (of course with arrangement of the whole team to adjust character and plot) and Snyper writes in the POV of his designed character and Firion in the POV of his character, etc.
I think the person who created a character can more easily write about that character.
Well, could be a bad idea though lol

III. The Dollars
Since this is a project started by a Dollars member, we should think about whether we would like to do it somehow Dollars related or not.
What came to my mind was that if the chapters weren't too long, we could ask Amore whether we could "publish" parts of the story in the Dollars magazine so that all Dollars could read it.
Snyper wanted to join the magazine group too (sorry for stalking you, Snyper) and I think it would be a good contribution to the magazin.
BUT since Amore felt like FindMuck and me had kicked her out of the Dollars, I don't know whether she'll continue the magazine idea or not :o

However. Any other suggestions? ^^

20 Name: Anonymous : 2017-09-26 02:11 ID:ucwdAOum [Del]

>>1
Tanaka, are you the Tanaka who was with Robo?

21 Name: Tanaka : 2017-09-26 02:36 ID:2V9Vb9nO [Del]

>>13 I don't know Trello either so it would be great if you could give us a rough idea of what it is

It seems like time zones might not be too big a problem, because I also live in Australia, so we're all pretty close.

I emailed Chronos too, so it looks like we'll be moving this to the email group.

But it is important to remember that everyone has different picture in mind, when seeing this vague story/world idea, so it's pretty much guaranteed that people's visions and ideas will clash. It is a reason why group projects for stories might not work very well in practice, but we can figure it out as we go. It might mean that the group will change though, with new people joining, and with other people leaving.

But yeah, let's start this.

22 Name: Tanaka : 2017-09-26 02:38 ID:2V9Vb9nO [Del]

>>20 No, that is a different Tanaka, I guess.

23 Name: Chronos !OLodFucK0U : 2017-09-26 04:09 ID:abv95YC3 [Del]

Fine. I'm glad that our times zones are almost the same.
I received your email, Tanaka.
I'm going to create an email group as soon as I got Firion's mail.
And then, let's get this started~ ^^

24 Name: Snyper !svMS/p8SOo : 2017-09-26 05:34 ID:hMMYisyq [Del]

so far, I've copied everything we have about the story so far. As in, all the details Tanaka has provided for us, as well as how it will work as seen in >>19 by Chronos. I'll work on it basically now, and rewrite it to make it a little easier to understand, summarising it as much as I think I need to. When I've finished that, and Chronos has set up the email group, I'll send the shortened version to everyone as my design. Just send me an email when you are ready, I'll reply as soon as I can.

I will have a section down the bottom as well that will list a few of my ideas for the plot, characters, and a few other things I'm thinking now.

For the roles, I'm fine with almost anything to be honest, but I'm not sure if I will be able to write a fantasy world very well. I've never tried it before, but I can give it my best if you want. Otherwise, I can do pretty much anything else. I love reading, so I can proofread as well.

And expanding a little from Chronos, and the idea of writing in different perspectives, why don't we do that in the actual story? We could have each chapter separated into smaller sub chapters, and each sub chapter could be either the same events from a different persons point of view, or continuing on from the previous persons point of view. And whoever created the character can either write the sub chapter themselves, or provide a bit of a detailed outline of what is supposed to happen in the chapter for someone else to write.

With the magazine bit, if the magazine is an email thing, or a link thing, then it would be easy to post a chapter in it every now and then. But I think, as a different idea, we could only put the first chapter on the magazine, or even just the prologue or a sneak peak, and include a way to access the entire story. If we post it online somewhere, we can have the link to that. How does that sound?

Also, if everyone has Discord, we can use that to chat. I can create a server for the story and invite you all, and we can have one person (or two, as many as we need) not only putting ideas out there, but also typing what is happening in the chat, as in, the ideas that are accepted, rejected ideas, possible ideas, characters, settings, plotlines, anything really.

I haven't typed this much for a while.

25 Name: Firion !ZeMESPtKtE : 2017-09-26 20:14 ID:XyC2+BQP [Del]

https://trello.com/b/yxoJrFgP/subnautica-development

you can see some game development opened publicly like this in trello, we can organize anything anywhere easily.

rylamistran@gmail.com was supposed to be my name at first but I changed to Firion just for fun and here I am. there you go,

26 Name: Chronos !OLodFucK0U : 2017-09-26 20:57 ID:abv95YC3 [Del]

I set up the email list!

>>24 Writing a shortened summary of "Tanakas world" is actually a pretty good idea. Thank you, Snyper.
Separating the chapters into smaller sub sections sounds interesting. I'd vote for your idea.
Honestly, I don't even believe that the magazine is going to be a thing, so yeah... But just in case there is going to be a magazine a sneak peak and a link sounds totally fine. We could post the story on wattpad btw.

Discord is a real good idea. Has everybody discord?

>>25 Thanks for the link, Firion!

27 Name: Piggy : 2017-10-06 09:18 ID:Qe922FX0 [Del]

I am a new people in here. I want to test my knowledge about literature and my ability in writing. I hope I can take many lesson in here. I also hope I can make a friendship with someone else.

28 Name: VISION : 2017-10-06 20:18 ID:YSd1Cv0w [Del]

AMAGEDON IS NEAR! Humans wordl shalt go up in flams and ashes rains form the heavens!

29 Name: Firion !ZeMESPtKtE : 2017-10-07 08:23 ID:6WtK9mjC [Del]

>>27 Hey there, I'm writing story too. its on pause though because of this bigger project

30 Name: !C8Hypela/M!!/fN+hj5w : 2017-11-25 07:55 ID:N3YK6Yad [Del]

>>28 ah, it remains