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The Dollars (23)

1 Name: Rin !tp8OITXdH6 : 2020-09-01 13:19 ID:lNkHvGLL [Del]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zWouGK2S0QJFMM2MYtwuac1snlM6svjNaW9e9tAM1e4/edit?usp=sharing

There's a lot to read but I think we could make the dollars into something special again. Feel free to reply to this with your dollars e-mail, so that I can contact you. Also feel free to write more suggestions, on what we can do. Thank you for reading!

2 Name: Rin !tp8OITXdH6 : 2020-09-01 13:34 ID:lNkHvGLL [Del]

You can just copy the link and you'll see the document.

3 Name: FindMuck !MrEff/SKhc : 2020-09-02 03:24 ID:u1o4ohYG [Del]

The ideas presented are way to loose, and just regurgitations of what we've heard before.

The phrase "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink" comes to mind. The Dollars have been mostly hype for as long as I can remember. As time goes on, that outside hype is fading.

If you really want to sign up for what you're asking for. You have to make this horse drink. We would need at least a core group of people actually completing missions in the outside world.

4 Name: Rin !tp8OITXdH6 : 2020-09-02 10:23 ID:lNkHvGLL [Del]

So if we had a core group, who does missions outside, then what would be the next step?

5 Name: RoadRunner !ziZMENJ7vE : 2020-09-02 14:30 ID:5oQuEm7O [Del]

You hear those stories on the news people doing awesome stuff I feel people would love to see real world impacts and if it gains attention then we could have an influx of new members how can we do missions and record our progress so others can see?

6 Name: Rin !tp8OITXdH6 : 2020-09-02 14:34 ID:lNkHvGLL [Del]

>>5 We can do photos/videos and then post them on social media or something, so that when the news asks questions, we have like a video proof

7 Name: Sigiled : 2020-09-03 01:17 ID:rDBUoFNW [Del]

Definitely gonna be following this thread

8 Name: Firion !ZeMESPtKtE : 2020-09-03 08:37 ID:c1ognkv5 [Del]

A certain someone opened my third eye recently and I'm going to pour my thoughts regarding your ideas. My response are mixed, so I'll probably be harsh on some of these.


1. Popularity of the Dollars

> Spread rumors.
> Send friends and trusted people the website and password.
> Promote bbs-dollars.
> Email inactive members and ask if they want to come back.

I'm going to have to disagree on the rumor part, hell I'm strongly against it even. It sounds like a joke, I mean you're essentially just quoting the anime at this point. Didn't we want to diverge ourselves from them and show everyone that we're the real deal?

Emailing the inactive members would probably worth nothing at this point, I'm skeptical if they'd ever even check the inbox. If we want them to return, we need to prove them that we're currently going full throttle and visibly making a difference.

Promoting the website is what I've been doing since god knows when, you guys can go ahead with it. If it attracts trolls somehow, we always have the banhammer ready since a decade ago and I'm not even kidding.

Inviting friends and trusted people from our personal circle is also good to go, we used to have members joining like that and they didn't even know about Durarara let alone anime. Our community back then consisted of intelligent discussion regarding the world, philosophical and moral questioning discussion and all that shit, and that's exactly what made them stick around. If we're going real, might as well get rid of all the weeb culture and centralize it on Animations and Comics board only (plus VN board).


2. Members and Information

> Members should speak english.
> Everyone should do something to make the world a little bit better each day no matter how small.
> Never share another Dollar member’s real Information.
> Have Activity once a week, it needs to be an announcement! Because people like special things and like to have unordinary things (and announcements make it something special).
> Members need to give Information in what country they are in.
> They can decide to do work outside or inside (Online or irl).
> Each member posts on introduction but they need to make a new email, specifically for the dollars and put it there. Also make second social media accounts with your dollars nickname and with a dollars pfp. In the description write something like: I’m X and I am a member of the Dollars.

I have no problem with these ideas except for the email and social media account part. It is ultimately everyone's own decision if they want to make a new account or not, I myself used my main alternative email instead of making a new one to save myself from all the hassle of remembering passwords. Social media account, I just used my online persona account. Doesn't necessarily need to explicitly states you're a Dollar member, just put your name and tripcode there. Just defeats the purpose of being anonymous imo, feel free to shot me down if we're not on the same frequency, I myself won't go down without a fight as well unless your argument is foolproof.

Regarding the announcement though, you're gonna need to plan that thoroughly. What to put in there, for what purpose, and where will you put it. I don't want a half-baked thread without clear intention nor description appearing in any of the important boards, we are a community so lets discuss it here.


3. Groups in close area

>> Every weekends a drrr.com chatroom in each country using the same name as in BBS.
>> Catch up with the news or just do something fun.
>> If you are a new member look for people close in your area.
>> Share the dollars email in the chatroom. That should be done at least once every two weeks.

I've been hanging out in drrr.com for the past 3 years using this username, yet I've only ever met someone from here (who was apparently a troll at that time) and that time I was even afking so I never got to talk to him, just the chat history calling me out. Got tired of waiting anyone so I just hang around here nowadays.

Now, for what purpose does the email sharing happens again? Please elaborate, I still didn't get the point. People could've just used other social media such as Twitter or Discord, so why should it be email?


4. Exchange of information and meeting locations

>> Meet up with local members around you, make sure the place is full of people, on weekend, at noon but before it's dark.
>> Use a codeword like: “What colour are we?” “Colourless” -Idea from Ruku on bbs-dollars, suggestion thread.
>> Perhaps exchange phone numbers and dollars nicknames upon meeting up, stay in-touch with the group(s) until new member joins. Self explanatory for newer members, join the group when one already existed. If not, try joining the closest area group or postpone until more members are gathered in the same area. In the meantime, work online.

We've decided our unique logo and codes to recognize each other as far as I can remember, I just forgot in which board the thread were posted. Might need a little digging for this, but I distinctly remember Logo thread is in Suggestion board though so try diving through the archive I guess.


5. Yearly meet-up with dollars in countries

>> Yearly meet-ups to strengthen each country's Dollars.
>> On 21 June (bc longest day of the year, so a lot of sun and less likely someone be kidnapped.

We've organized yearly meetings before, on Dollars Day which is 19 June as a way to celebrate the site's birthday. Haven't been doing it for the past few years due to our dwindling number though.


6 Work and rewards

No way I'm summarizing that block of paragraph so I'll keep it short. With our current situation, going outside for some of us is probably a no go. There's also the problem in our small number, the regular members that did want to participate in Missions are probably divided by a huge distance while the local members prefer online Missions which are less of a hassle for obvious reason.


7 Social media and promotion

>> After doing a deed, make picture/screenshot and upload it to your Dollars account with a hashtag like #Dollars (or something) on the post. This way we know how much a person has done in a month and what the deeds were.

An alternative to this is by posting such picture on their respective Mission thread in the respective Mission board. Or we can do some sort of compilation like this by the Dollars Discord.


8 Additions and improvements

>> Start a patreon site for the dollars or something, where you can give a tip to someone who just helped you.
>> Add a new 'work' called supporters. Supporters promote dollars in social media. Maybe they can spread some news. They can make a patreon, merch or something that will strengthen the bonds and support the Dollars and make outside people more interested in joining or supporting.
>> Maybe make the site not accessible to all (At the moment everyone can just google the bbs-dollars). Dollars can send the site url and password to make it a special moment for new members.

I'm not against the patreon idea, but how are we supposed to distribute the money?

I'm quite against the Supporter role or whatever you may call it, as well as the explicitly promoting the Dollars through social media. It just felt flashy imo, I don't think we'll need that much spotlight to begin with.

Regarding the password page, we've talked about this dozens of times. It's for aesthetic purpose only and even then, most of the members that knew about Durarara still got stunned the first time they arrived on the site.

Whew that's fucking long, sincerely hope you're gonna still be around to read this or else it will all be for nothing. The same "Lets make a difference" bs cycle all over again.

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10 Name: Rin !tp8OITXdH6 : 2020-09-04 14:51 ID:lNkHvGLL [Del]

Alright sorry for making two replies, since I didn't see the rest '^^. Now let's begin..

1. I agree with the rumors part after a little thinking, and you're right, it will probably attract a lotta trolls too. We need something to make the inactive members come back. Idk how but I'll be counting on you guys for that!

2. I'm thinking of just doing e-mails for the people, who want to do the missions and make a change. Because I personally don't want to share real e-mails, so that's that. And we could do the missions through e-mails. Then maybe more ppl will check their dollars inboxes.

3.I think the drrr.com chatrooms are great, but of course we can use other apps/ communication. And I think sharing the dollars e-mail will keep everyones privacy more, but we can do it through discord too, I think that would be even better.

4. Oh! I didn't know we had logos! We can use them for sure!

5. I mean we could do some meetups again, when the virus dies out and we have more active members. It's up to you though, if you want to do meetups again.

6.Yeah you're right. But I thought we can do these missions, when there are a lot of active members. Also I just added the outside work mission, for the people who like to go outside once in a while and will potentially give them a little motivation, if it's a mission. But we can wait until more members come in.

7. Yeah the missions board is a good place for the proof of doing certain missions. But I feel like if everyone has something on their own social media account, they would feel somewhat proud of themselves. But if you don't like that idea we can work out something! ^^

8. Alright, now I'm gonna explain, what I think the "supporters" could be: They are the people who don't want to do any missions and are here for the posts or for durarara (not that anything is wrong with this). And if there are a lot of people on here, I feel like we won't get anywhere missions-wise. But then, what if we could make them do something simple, without going out, doing a petition or donate charity? So I came to the conclusion, that they could spread the dollars, like giving the site url and password, or they could even do something big, without doing missions. Maybe they can do merch, for the people who like to draw things, or they could make a game for durarara and promote this site. And regarding the patreons, I thought we could do something like a reward, for the top 3 people, who did the most missions In half a year, a year, a month or whatever time limit you want.

Thank you guys so much for replying to this thread and thank you for thinking along, on what we could do better!

11 Name: Envy : 2020-09-05 22:18 ID:Gb7fvsv9 [Del]

Yeah I agree with just about all of this,and even though there's not tons of people in my area,we could still meetup. I hope we grow to be very popular and make real impact someday.
envious.dollars@gmail.com

12 Name: Rin !tp8OITXdH6 : 2020-09-07 09:33 ID:lNkHvGLL [Del]

Alirght, now if everzone seems ok with this, we need to find a way to make the inactive members come back. If you have any ideas please reply to this thread, so that we can discuss and then find the best solution for all. Thank you!

13 Name: Firion !ZeMESPtKtE : 2020-09-08 07:32 ID:A2V6fSZD [Del]

1. The inactive members never really left, they're just afking. If we show them that we're getting off once more, they'll consider jumping onto the bandwagon with us. Action speaks louder than blocks of text anyways. I can't say for sure, but long time members actually do check up on us every once in a while, watching from the dark.

2. Fair enough actually, what sort of Missions would be shared through emails? Online ones? Offline missions?

3. I'm not against using drrr actually, that in itself would feel more exciting I suppose NGL. The email point is also valid, I'll leave it at that. We'll probably gonna pick one at some point.

4. <a href="https://dollars-bbs.org/suggestions/res/1478980946.html">Here.</a>

5. I believe small percentage of members that have long gone from the site are still in contact and do hangout offline, probably. There's no one to stop you guys if you want meetups lol.

6. Looking at it from their perspective, the case is either 'One' people wants to do actual works around their town but didn't have any other members around to accompany/help them, or there are some members in the region but are too lazy to do any actual works. This is assuming the worst possible situation, but the first one is actually a pretty common one. Just throwing it out there.

7. That actually sounds kinda genius, although I foresaw some problems, but meh we'll talk about it later. I'm not in a position to type lengthy paragraphs at this time, so bear with me for the next few days.

8. I feel like this concept would only be possible after to gathered quite amount of members, our current condition imo wouldn't be sufficient to run this kind of 'project'. There were just a handful of members around here and I'd say the roles are interchangeable between us few.

Lurking members, if you feel like my words seemed to just be shooting down this person's idea then by all means, please shoot me down as well so I can set my mind back straight.

14 Name: Rin !tp8OITXdH6 : 2020-09-08 11:20 ID:lNkHvGLL [Del]

1. Alright, now that I know that, we just gotta do something big. This will probably one of the main problems, but I think we'll work that out. (Also to the members lurking, don't be shy throw your opinion on this here.)

2.I thought, Offline missions and maybe online missions, that are important, maybe like an emergency thing. But Mainly for offline.

3. Alright, thanks for the agreement. I think we can close this point, if noone wants to add something.

4.Damnnn these look good! And they aren't too flashy! That's like perfect~

5.Nice so we can do these. Once everything calms down.

6. Dude you read my mind. I wanted to explain exactly what you wrote but I suck in english... But yeah that is also a problem. But I mean if we get a lot of members, I think the numbers of people going out alone on missions will decrease.

7.Yeah would be nice if you could post what the problems would be, so that we can work on solutions :D

8.Yeah yeah, I forgot to write, that we would do the projhects when we have more active members ^^'

Also you're not shooting down the idea, you're actually giving constructive criticism, so thank you for that!

15 Name: Rin !tp8OITXdH6 : 2020-09-09 23:53 ID:lNkHvGLL [Del]

Also we could do a day where we all wear a dollars logo, so that when we walk around, we can see who is in the dollars and so on.
Would that be a good idea?

16 Name: Rin !tp8OITXdH6 : 2020-09-11 14:01 ID:lNkHvGLL [Del]

Also I just saw, but we can promote the dollars with the printouts! We can hang them up in public places, where a lot of people can see them. We can get new members for sure!

17 Name: Firion !ZeMESPtKtE : 2020-09-14 06:49 ID:RzbEoXaa [Del]

7. As far as I can see, nothing too problematic so we could probably get this going asap. We'll just tackle the problem when it inevitably show itself lmao.

>>15 Couldn't you just use them for daily stuff? Lol

>>16 Covid would probably make people wary on what they're touching, so it wouldn't be a good idea these time around. Maybe after the pandemic settled down. Unless you've start printing and hang up these, and people actually took them...

Next step? Either we revitalize the existing missions or find a way to recruit new members as well as make them stick around. I'd like to entangle myself more on these matter, but I'm currently on tight schedule IRL so I probably could only watch from the side and giving ideas.

18 Name: Key : 2020-09-16 23:38 ID:HQRJtXYo [Del]

I like the idea of missions being updated more frequently. I feel like that aspect of Dollars will appeal to newbies who want to really feel as though they are a part of something

19 Name: enecy : 2020-09-17 12:44 ID:NpTKs+ny [Del]

It seems to be a good idea ! Well, i will try to help you if i can. Here's my email : enecy.dollars@gmail.com.

20 Name: Rin !tp8OITXdH6 : 2020-09-19 15:47 ID:lNkHvGLL [Del]

Alright I'm really happy to see that so many people are going with my idea!

So I think now all that we can really do is promote it through online means and wait until corona's over.

But if anyone wants to add critique or new ideas feel free to do!

21 Name: Dreadnought : 2020-09-23 16:38 ID:ISlfYfxR [Del]

This sounds cool, I'm down. email me: dreadnought.dollars@gmail.com

22 Name: Rin !tp8OITXdH6 : 2020-09-27 13:37 ID:lNkHvGLL [Del]

Alright I think it's time to make our first move guys. I thought long about it and I think I know how to get people coming back and people joining. Now first of all we need the old members back. Because when new members join and they see it isn't as active as they thought we would lose members. So for that we need to send e-mails to every dollar who is in the dollars e-mail list (I don't know where to find it but I know it's there). Now for the content of this e-mail: I would suggest this to be our first e-mail mission. In this we can give the mission to print out the printouts (tongue twister??) and hang them up somewhere where it's well seen. Or of course if they don't want to do this, then they could try to recruit some members over social media? So this would be a start. I haven't thought everything through, so if you find any flaws please tell them, so that we can work something better out!

(Also we need to write the address of this site on it, cuz then people know where to go to.)

23 Name: ジュリ王 : 2020-10-24 21:59 ID:iLG3jA2k [Del]

This sounds like it will be fun
Email: Juriou.Dollars@gmail.com