I have a suggestion about the removing of the member count. It's more of a novelty piece and doesn't really do anything. It causes people to actually think we have that many people as members, rather than multiple log-ins of 1 person from different computers and whatnot.

With it gone it leaves less room for questions regarding member size, as well as if it's gone it leaves more of that anonymous feel to it. Anyway let's discuss if it's actually a good idea or not, to remove it from the site altogether.

I think it should stay that way, it kinda looks cool to look at it

And if anyone ask how many member The Dollars has we can answer, well.. kind of xP

Perhaps if it was re-labeled as a hit counter? That's what it actually is, after all.

>>3
It's ugly to me, and no matter how you label it, it's just a novelty, that can never truly get proper "unique" hits. I feel it'd just look better and over-all be better if it were just removed altogether.

Bump.

NO !

A solution for people who don't want this.
Why not just reset it? Sure it'd still be there, but I doubt the number would be as big, it would still be speculation on how many members there are but it would be a little more accurate.

I don't see why we just don't write "Hit Counter" next to it instead of Members. That way, it's still there, but nobody mistakes it as the number of active members we have.

>>7 But then you can't say it's the number of IP's that have visited the site since its creation, and you lose even that novelty quality of it.

I still think it should be removed. That or by default it's not on the boards at all, but actually on another link, such as the about or help sections. Then less questions regarding the counter because newbies won't see it right away.

I like the member count, it seems more... for the lack of a better word I say, realistic

>>10 The exact problem is that it doesn't show the realistic amount of members because it adds a member for every single new ID used.

I agree though, might be best to take it down. Also replacing Members with Hit Counter would be another viable solution, like Barabi said. All it takes is somebody to email Reltair, I guess.

If we moved it so it's not GLOBALLY shown, might be the best way to go about it.

It's a nice idea, but it should be an "active members" count. Currently with the multiple device login and others who happen across then leave, there is no real truth in the member count.
What would be nice is if when you left the dollars it removed a number but this is a BBS system so that's impractical and near impossible.
What WOULd work is the Active Member count, that shows how many devices are using the site at that time.

>>13

I like that idea.

You know, >>13 made me think of something.

What if after you put the password in, it "logs you in" with that ID. To leave the site completely, you'd have to "log out". This could actually solve a few problems if it's done right, such as with people (like me) not being able to delete a post because their ID/IP changed; the site could just not register such changes until you log out and back in again. This will also make it easier for the site to tell how many active members there are by the number of ID's still "logged in." Of course, we will have people who are not active but still logged in and people who log in on multiple devices; it'll never be perfect. However, the site could auto-unlog and reset the counter every x amount of time.

I'm using "log in" and "lot out" very loosely since they're terms everyone can relate to, but it wouldn't really be an account.

Anyway, just an idea, even though I'm kind of going into partially charted territory here >_> Don't mean to completely change the site lol just curious to see what everyone thinks of the idea, whether it's something Reltair would/could implement or not.

This is my opinion, but I think we should keep it. It shows how much dedication there is, and how many people are willing to join our cause and make the world a much better place.

>>16 its based on ip's (which change constantly), not the number of people that have visited the site, or the number of usernames entered.

>>17 Well, it still shows that people are dedicated enough to do it on different browsers.. But sorry for not knowing that.

>>17 Well, it still shows that people are dedicated enough to do it on different browsers.. But sorry for not knowing that.

I think this is a pretty good idea.

Hasn't this already been discussed ?

I've already said no to that, in my opinion it's cool.
Why removing it ? You wont know how many member we have either way

>>13's Ideia is cool though

>>21 because giving people a false idea of how many of us there are is much much worse than giving them no idea at all

i like it, its old and it should stay the same as before.

>>21
It's never been discussed in a legit topic though. It's mostly idiots coming in Suggestions and saying "We are almost near so and so amount of members!"

>>23 >>25 I see, aperantly most people are stupid and actualy think that it's a member count and not an IP tick counter.

As >>13 said, connected IPs counter should fix all this. ("Currently online counter", it should be easy to find one of those)

>>26 why wouldnt they, it says memger count. Theyre just taking it at face value

I didn't understand halft of what you said but I guess it only logical that we don't have 300.000+ members.

bump

bump

I think we should change the member count to members are online right now on this site.

That just my opinion.

Agree and bump

bump

Agreed with >>32

>>15 And how would the site detect who is loged ? Since you IP (and mine) changes the site would classifie you as a new person so you'd have to login again.

Easy going would be a currently viewing ticker.

>>36 The point is that, after you've put in the password, it stop continuously checking your IP; it'd only keep the one you had when you put in the password for that session. It would detect how many times the password was put in without the person "logging out".

And I know the current viewer ticker would be a lot easier; I was just tossing the idea out there since it would kill a few birds with one stone.

Instead of member count we could do a kind of site views thing. E.g.
Site views today:
Site views this week:
Site views past year:
Site views all time:
It would lose the idea of 'members' but this is more of a forum than a gang, so that might not be much of a loss (rather than leading people on). This is just an idea though, and not a fully thought out one at that.

>>38 That seems like a bit much. It would just be a bunch of separated hit counters.

I still like just changing what we have now to "Hit Counter" and/or adding an Members Online counter where it just says how many people are active on the site at that moment (it can't be that hard; plenty of sites have it).

a Members*

>>39 It isn't, thing is that Reltair has to use an API from another website. People try to avoid that.

I don't know how hard it is to code one from scratch but I think Google has an API for that and since this website uses Google powered adds then Reltair shouldn't have a problem with that, and again I don't know if Google has one.

Found this: http://www.webmasterapps.com/

>>41 I'm not saying it's too much to code; I'm saying it'll be too much for the page. Having all of that information is unnecessary and won't be aesthetically pleasing unless it has its own page, in which case we still have to get rid of the one up top which is fairly good looking as it is.

>>43 You: (it can't be that hard; plenty of sites have it)

And I also agree with you on that, Online counter is enough

>>44 Exactly :L I said it's not that hard to do. That specific post just suggested too much information that we don't need.

What if Instead of having a hit counter (lets face it, that's what it is) we have a system where when you first join you press a button which would add you to a count of active members and if you ever decide on leaving you could click it again to subtrack yourself. This way people could use multiple ID's but still only contribute one hit to the number of members. Does that make sense or am I just rambling xD

>>46 a troll could just come in and spam that button

Personally, I think we should keep it, or at least have something like it. Because it makes it look just like in Durarara :)

>>47 Not necessarily. A spammer could come in and click it but clicking it a second time would just remove his previous click. It'd be a one per IP thing if you know what I mean.

You do realize that all youre attempting to do is have the same exact thing we do now, but manual n more complicated

>>51 No... the suggestions are actually pretty different :L
There's a huge difference between a hit counter that automatically adds another hit whenever someone views the site with a new IP (I've counted for several hundred members on that counter already thanks to that) versus a manual counter where a user has to actually press it to add a hit.

i was talking to >>46, but it probably still doesnt make sense :/

Manual hit counter = NO

>>54 Elaborate.

If it's made so you can't hit it more than once, then what's the problem?

(Again though, I'm still up for just changing what we already have to saying "Hit Counter")

I say we just change the name of it. A manual hit counter would be tedious and eventually frustrating because one would have to do it every single time they entered or left the site.(at least thats what I got from it)

>>55 and how would one make a button that cannot be hit more the once ?
That is impossible

Also it would be bodersome

>>57 Nothing is impossible o:

There are quite a few ways to do it. The first would be IP based; you wouldn't be able to hit it again unless your IP changed. Normal users wouldn't even try to hit it again. Trolls would have to continuously change their IP to hit it again. The second way would be to save it in the user's computer's local memory. If it detects that it has been hit before, it doesn't count when you hit it again.

Pretty sure both of those are possible; they're just more time consuming than changing what it says :I

>>61 Sure but cache is deleted (the data saved on the local memory) ever-so-often and you can change IP with a click of a button.
Combining both of them would be better but it would still be not possible.

Also new user wouldn't even knew that they need to click it

A member counter with a button takes a while to code, it can be "hacked" and it's (as you said) time consuming.

Changing the name to tick counter (or something) would be realy fast (Reltair would actualy just need to change the name, nothing else) but I think we have a better ideia.

A currently online counter would actualy be cool, it wont lie but it would take some time to implement.

>>62 Not everybody deletes their cache that often, and it doesn't matter if people don't notice it right away. Most users aren't going to stay for more than a couple weeks. Those that do will see it eventually. The point is that neither are spectacular but are possible none the less. They would still be better than one we have.

And I've already said that I agree that just changing it to Hit Counter is the best idea. I'm just defending that it is possible.

Also, an online counter wouldn't be hard to make at all; they're used on tons of sites. There's probably more than one open source version that Reltair could just copy and paste excluding a few aesthetic changes.

>>65 I'll explain why it might be hard tomorrow since it's 1 am here, but I said that you can change IP with a click of a button and here's an exemple: http://dollars-bbs.org/test/res/1374699238.html

Check the IDs and the time.

>>66 I never argued about changing IP's :I

What part of, "Neither are spectacular but are possible none the less. They would still be better than what we have," didn't make sense? Of course there are downfalls to them; I'm not denying that. I'm just saying it's better than calling a hit counter a member count.

Yet, I'm still saying that calling a hit counter what it is, is better than anything. I'm continuously making that clear. I never said the other ideas weren't hard, nor did I ever suggest they had no quirks; I was just arguing about them being physically possible to do, whether they're good or not in the end.

Everything has downfalls. But if we have one to show who is ONLINE at the time rather than who VIEWED the site, changing the IP won't matter. It'll only show you when you're on the site. Once off, it's off.

>>69 Dude calm down, I'm just explaining the pros and the cons here, the website is pure HTML (some javascipt there and CSS here) and the online counters you see out there are "Plugins" for websites, like blogger or wordpress, you don't even need to edit any html, all you need to do to implement a "currently online" counter is to download a zip file and then upload it to the server, the difference bettewn does website and this one is that those have "plugin" functionalities and thise one doesn't because, as I said before, it's pure HTML, built from ground up.
So I think that adding a "currently online" counter would be hard for Relatair because he would have to code one from ground up to be compatible, I'm saying this in speculation I never realy tried a counter like those on pure HTML.

Options, options, options:
1. Manual member counter, can be "hacked" but it'll be the most accurate to the truth.
2. Changing the name to something else, it would solve the issues about lying about the number of members but in the end a hitcounter won't be of much use to us.
3. An "currently online" counter, it'll also solve the issues about lying but I think it'll be hard for Realtair to code one.

>>71 I'm not talking about plugins :L I'm talking about open source codes, as I already said.

Here's an entire page of open source projects for currently online counters that took about five minutes to find, most of which only require copying and pasting the code into the current website code.

Some of them personalize it to the website that's already made, as well, so you don't have to worry about it being incompatible. I can't imagine it'd be that hard to fit it in so it doesn't affect the scripts that are already here nonetheless

Either way, there's absolutely no reason that Reltair would have to code one from the ground up (like I've said about three times now). Plenty have already been open sourced to be edit and fit into other sites.

>>73 Well a spoiler tags aren't hard either but Relair said that he/she'd implement one in months and still nothing. It all depends on how Reltair coded the website and how he/she wants it to be coded.

So until now we have 3 option and I don't have more ideias so I vote for a currently online member counter.

>>74 he takes a while to actually implement things, because, ya know, this isnt his lifes work. He has shit to do that doesnt involve this site

>>75 Basically this.

>>75 Yep I know, but 7 months is enought to code that out unless he works in the stock exchange.

I keep my vote on this suggestion

>>77 It's not that he hasn't had time; he just chose to not do it yet. It's not a big deal :I

You should be grateful you have a site at all instead of complaining about the admin not posting the updates you want fast enough.

>>78 Yeah I'm grateful, I just think he should keep us posted at least once in two or three months

>>79 I agree, there should be more updates, but as this forum is free, there's no reason for anyone to complain about anything. Also, seeing as the admin hasn't made an appearance in forever, it's better to just let these matters alone.

>>1 But regarding the changing/removing of the members count. The thing is so insignificant that I'm unsure why you even mentioned it. What's the point in changing it? Does it actually help us as a whole?

2 months or less, now is equal to forever.

>>81 We have a lot of problems with members preaching about how big of a group we are because they take that ticker seriously.

>>79 Why should he? He could have blatantly refused any of the updates at a moment's notice. He chose to put them on a to do list and hasn't gotten around to it. Big whoop. He shouldn't have to come in here every two months and go, "Hey guys, sorry I haven't gotten on that yet," when he never had to do it in the first place.

If you want information or updates, email him yourself like the rest of us do instead of complaining on the website about how he doesn't make an appearance enough.

>>83 First of all Barabi I'm not complaining I'm just giving out my opinion god damnit, and second he said he'd do it I usualy don't say that I'm gonna do stuff I just say something like I'm gonna look into it, I always like to keep people posted even if it's not my job, but oh well it's his website so manages it the way he likes.

Have we come to an agreement on this yet ?

>>84 Repeatedly bringing up the fact that he hasn't done it yet and going on about how you would have handled it... yes, that's what the rest of the world likes to call, "complaining."

Why are you getting so butthurt about this, anyway? If you're so bothered by how Reltair manages the site, take it up with him. There's really no reason to argue about it on an unrelated thread.

>>85 Because I'm not complaining your the one who hasn't shut up about it, I just said once that he said he'd do it in months and then you come up talking on and on about this, hey he hasn't done it fine, I'm not mad, it's you that can't stop talking about it, JEEZ !

I just want to go back on topic but you can't seem to do that goddamn

>>86 you're

>>86 If you want to stop talking about it so bad, then stop talking already. You're only repeating points that I've already brought up anyway; I'm not going to waste my time copying and pasting what I've already said to keep arguing with you when nothing I'm saying is sinking in.

>>88 finaly

A recap for everyone else?

These are the most popular ideas thusfar:
1. Change just the text from "Member Count" to "Hit Counter."
2. Remove what we have and add in its place a "visitors currently online" counter.

>>90 don't forget the manual meember counter, it hasn't been descussed enough yet

>>91 I didn't bring it up because it's not a popular option (more people have put it down than have agreed with it). But okay, we can toss that in there :I

We really should change this asap

>>93 Yeah I agree on that too, but it needs to be discussed a little more

Wouldn't it be best to just have a registered member counter? I mean i know we don't have a registration or anything, and im not saying to turn this into a social network, but we need an idea on how many of us are actually a part of this. There's a large sum of people just calling themselves a dollar, and yet they aren't active in any sense.

Back in the day there was a sort of roll call that we had which was created and managed solely by a single member. When that member left, that went out of date, and was eventually removed. I at one point asked bossman if it were possible to bring that back, but since the single member created n did all of it, he didnt even have the code used to create it.

>>96 That member's name was Tsuki. Yes, the very same Tsuki that made the stalker thread. How do we call him out you may ask? Well, that is easy... We must sacrifice 10 people, and post 10 pictures of each people into the stalker thread. That is the only way possible.

Well then change what i said to that member got lazy n stopped updating it :I

>>98 Aha. Tsuki is a lazy cat. You gotta entice him to do anything. That's why I suggested the sacrifice of 10 members and post 10 pictures of those members in the stalker thread. He'll surely get off his ass to do that.

>>96 I remember that o: I always was curious what happened to it.

Anyway.
>>95 Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't really feel like it's that important to count the number of members we have. You'll know about how many people are active once you yourself are active on the site; we don't need something counting that.

(The unique users online counter is different, of course, and I think it could be interesting. I don't think we need a general registration counter though.)

Yea guess your right, i am still pretty knew to this xd
I see your name pop up everywhere though :0

Whaaa !!?? Someone reedirect me to the tsuki thread please ! I might try to replicate that

>>102 It used to be its own page on the site and was (apparently) coded and maintained by him. I don't know if there were any threads discussing it or not.

But you know, you could always summon Tsuki by sacrificing 10 BBS virgins and filling their bodies with kittens.

>>101 That's just because I'm pretty active lol

summon de tsuki \o\

OK ! who's virgin here ? Tell me so I can kill you, I already have the cats

Anyways can someone descibe to me how that page worked ?

>>105 I-I'm not a virgin... o-o

>_>
<_<

Anyway, I think it was like this:

You basically chose what country you're from, put the username you wanted in, perhaps some other details, and then a short description of yourself. After you sent it, it was put into a big database type page of all the ones that had been put in, and I think it was ordered by country.

At least, that's how I remember it. I could be thinking of something completely different though. /has no faith in her own memory

We used to have something like that ??

>>107 Yeah, back before we had the Intro or Countries boards, I think.

Ahh,i see. so your sacrificing virgins stuffed with cats to bring back the god of the old ways °3°

>>108 if i remember correctly it was part of one of the two, like a button on the right side similar to our archive buttons

>>110 Yeah, it wasn't a board of its own or anything. I'm just pretty sure those two boards were added after it was removed.

So what was that page used for, just user sorting ?

>>112 keeping track of usernames, locations, emails, stuff like that if i remember correctly. This is also something that was at the end of its life around 2 years ago, so my memory is hazy

>>113 I don't remember there being emails, but my memory is even hazier. I think there were comments though.

It was basically like a guestbook. And the data you entered into that was also used to make a list by countries.

>>113 >>114 Putting your email in might have been optional. Whether it was there or not, though, it would be a nice option to have if we have a new one instead of having them all in a thread.

>>115 Hmmm... Yeah I'll think about recreating that but it wont be my main priority so don't expect anything to come the next few months, anyways back on topic.

Manual member counter, Changing name to tick counter or Currently online counter.

We are going to hit 330000

>>117 wouldve been cooler if you actually capped the 330000

>>118 I'll try xP

Aw shit..

I think this is a very good idea because we don't actually have so much members.

i dunno i like the member count i kinda want it there XD

I actually like the member count it reminds me that people join our organization to help people.

>>123 But quite often they don't.. Anyway, what would that have to do with a member count?

I like having the member count... i dont really have a reason its just, that top right corner what would you put there if the member count wasn't there? i dont think of it as a member count its just that, each time it gets higher and higher it reminds me that people are still logging in, that the dollars are still going because we us the people that keep on making new threads and comment on threads and do the little missions, we are still coming back to this same site, so, i like the count being there. so i say keep it. it makes this feel more the original Dollars site as well. keep the member count.

We have disccused and dicided not the remove it but instead replace it with either Manual member counter, Changing name to tick counter or Currently online counter.

-->126: That is good to hear.

^

>>126 Thanks alot for filling us all in. I do prefer that idea over removing it completely.

bump

So which one do you guys agree Manual member counter, Changing name to tick counter or Currently online counter ?

>>131 None. Changing name to Hit Counter is what I'm up for; tick counter just sounds stupid, imo.

The order of what I'd prefer:
1. Change to Hit Counter
2. Currently online counter
3. Manual member counter

Ok let's do some voting then, let's give this 30 days +/- I'll keep track of the votes (no worries, I'm not gonna cheat) and the idea that gets more votes will be sent to Reltair (by the OP, Thiamor). (Don't worry about fake multiple voting, I got it covered, if I see anyone cheating I remove his/ers vote)
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Change to Hit Counter:
+1 by BarabiSama
Total: 1

2. Currently online counter
+1 by Ranguna
Total: 1

3. Manual member counter
Total: 0

manual member counter
Total: -1

I vote for the currently online counter.

Change to Hit Counter:
+1 by BarabiSama !!C8QPa1Mt (>>132)
Total: 1

2. Currently online counter
+1 by Ranguna !8wy2pTNghM (>>135)
+1 by Solace !o0GOqY0U0w (>>137)
Total: 2

3. Manual member counter
-1 by Sleepology !4a6Vun8zuw (>>136)
Total: -1

Y u using my name ?

>>138 Why's your tripcode also Ranguna's?

>>140 Ups, it's not
>>139 My mistake. Fixed:


Change to Hit Counter:
+1 by BarabiSama !!C8QPa1Mt (>>132)
Total: 1

2. Currently online counter
+1 by Anugar !8wy2pTNghM (>>135)
+1 by Solace !o0GOqY0U0w (>>137)
Total: 2

3. Manual member counter
-1 by Sleepology !4a6Vun8zuw (>>136)
Total: -1

Watch what you do, don't mess up the voting.

>>142 Don't worry I wont

One vote for hit counter.

I like it

Change to Hit Counter:
+1 by BarabiSama !!C8QPa1Mt (>>132)
+1 by Yuuko Ichihara !oOs/L7gBLA (>>145)
Total: 2

2. Currently online counter
+1 by Anugar !8wy2pTNghM (>>135)
+1 by Solace !o0GOqY0U0w (>>137)
Total: 2

3. Manual member counter
-1 by Sleepology !4a6Vun8zuw (>>136)
Total: -1

Currently Online Counter
+1

+1 for the Currently Online counter, please.

Change to Hit Counter:
+1 by BarabiSama !!C8QPa1Mt (>>132)
+1 by Yuuko Ichihara !oOs/L7gBLA (>>145)
Total: 2

2. Currently online counter
+1 by Anugar !8wy2pTNghM (>>135)
+1 by Solace !o0GOqY0U0w (>>137)
+1 by Hatash!HATStoI1IE (>>148)
+1 by Yatahaze !E/8OvwUzpY (>>149)
Total: 4

3. Manual member counter
-1 by Sleepology !4a6Vun8zuw (>>136)
Total: -1

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I am iffy on this. I think the member count now is misleading, and I'd like a truly accurate member count but that isn't really possible with this kind of anonymous site. I mean, honestly with a site like this where you can post anything anonymously, what did you expect?

My vote would be for the currently online counter. That would be helpful, and sort of cool in my opinion.

What would we gain from a "currently online" counter, I wonder? Do people post here expecting immediate responses all the time? Because I come by the site to check updates and then I leave for hours at a time.

I'm not really voting for any of them because I feel like the counter, as an aesthetic, is fine as is - but if I had to say, I'd go with just changing it to "hit counter."

Ideally though I'd like it if it were a running count of sorts - showing the number of hits within a timeframe. But that could get messy and unnecessary quickly, depending on how it's currently coded.

bump

>>154 on occasion, yes, people do expect immediate responses due to the impression that we have hundreds of thousands of member.

Change to Hit Counter:
+1 by BarabiSama !!C8QPa1Mt (>>132)
+1 by Yuuko Ichihara !oOs/L7gBLA (>>145)
Total: 2

2. Currently online counter
+1 by Anugar !8wy2pTNghM (>>135)
+1 by Solace !o0GOqY0U0w (>>137)
+1 by Hatash!HATStoI1IE (>>148)
+1 by Yatahaze !E/8OvwUzpY (>>149)
+1 by Inuhakka !.5xqXJfr96 (>>153)
Total: 5

3. Manual member counter
-1 by Sleepology !4a6Vun8zuw (>>136)
Total: -1

>>154 So... You voting for Hit counter ?

I vote for the Currently Online Counter.

Keep the counter! That's my vote

Change to Hit Counter:
+1 by BarabiSama !!C8QPa1Mt (>>132)
+1 by Yuuko Ichihara !oOs/L7gBLA (>>145)
Total: 2

2. Currently online counter
+1 by Anugar !8wy2pTNghM (>>135)
+1 by Solace !o0GOqY0U0w (>>137)
+1 by Hatash!HATStoI1IE (>>148)
+1 by Yatahaze !E/8OvwUzpY (>>149)
+1 by Inuhakka !.5xqXJfr96 (>>153)
+1 by Thiamor !Enough.h12 (>>159)
Total: 6

3. Manual member counter
-1 by Sleepology !4a6Vun8zuw (>>136)
Total: -1

>>160 Read the post

Anyone on here want to be the person to sum it all up when done and send it to Reltair?

Thiamor which one is it ? !ZPE1Q6VxaY or !yZIDc0XLZY

>>164
Does it matter? I'm the same person no matter the trip.

>>165 Ooh, can I be Thiamor too then?

/shot

It does matter

It doesn't because I openly made a post about I'll be having a different code. The one's he asked about are both me, so either way it doesn't matter in regards to his question.

My Trip seems to be changing each post or something.

How can I know for sure that you are Thiamor ?

Because I'm saying I am. Just browse the topics I've posted in and you'll see some type of connection.

Ok then, try not to change your tripcode

One day left.

Change to Hit Counter:
+1 by BarabiSama !!C8QPa1Mt (>>132)
+1 by Yuuko Ichihara !oOs/L7gBLA (>>145)
Total: 2

2. Currently online counter
+1 by Anugar !8wy2pTNghM (>>135)
+1 by Solace !o0GOqY0U0w (>>137)
+1 by Hatash!HATStoI1IE (>>148)
+1 by Yatahaze !E/8OvwUzpY (>>149)
+1 by Inuhakka !.5xqXJfr96 (>>153)
+1 by Thiamor !Enough.h12 (>>159)
Total: 6

3. Manual member counter
-1 by Sleepology !4a6Vun8zuw (>>136)
Total: -1

The fact that you guys are mainly commenting me made me hesitate to reply because I feel not as nearly experienced as you, but who cares for the time <.<

I'm voting for the currently online counter.
Of course it would be great if the site could count every member but since that's impossible, the currently online counter gives a slightest idea of how many are here. Even if it's really vague.

>>174 Never hesitate to reply, if you feel like what you are going to say is right then by all means comment. I never seen you here thought, are you new ?

Change to Hit Counter:
+1 by BarabiSama !!C8QPa1Mt (>>132)
+1 by Yuuko Ichihara !oOs/L7gBLA (>>145)
Total: 2

2. Currently online counter
+1 by Anugar !8wy2pTNghM (>>135)
+1 by Solace !o0GOqY0U0w (>>137)
+1 by Hatash!HATStoI1IE (>>148)
+1 by Yatahaze !E/8OvwUzpY (>>149)
+1 by Inuhakka !.5xqXJfr96 (>>153)
+1 by Thiamor !Enough.h12 (>>159)
+1 by Kokoro!vDQhWY7uP2 (>>174)
Total: 7

3. Manual member counter
-1 by Sleepology !4a6Vun8zuw (>>136)
Total: -1

>>176 "New"... ehrrmm... if like... more than one year is new? xD
I am always lurking around and not really active, what I want to try. And there are only a few comments from me in the BBS, like in Propagation or so, so it's natural to not remember me xD

>>177 Well I have amnesia so it's even more natural.

Thiamor, you gonna send it to Reltair ?
We could send this one together with the Auto-Bump one

I'd rather someone compile it together and send it for me. I wanted to suggest the concept, someone with a better way to compile it can send it.

Well my way is as good as yours, or worse because school just started and I've been very tired

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how is there even a members count if everything is anonymous

>>182 It counts your IP address.

>>182
No one is 'this' stupid. Like really? You're on a computer and you don't even know you have an IP address? You can be tracked and recorded just by going onto a site, you don't have to register and yet the owner can still keep a record of you being on it.

Shit nigga

.. umm, so has anyone writen this to Reltair ?

>>184 You would be surprised how many people don't know what an IP address is or does. Most people I've encountered that aren't in the IT industry know they have one, but don't really know what it does.

just change the label for it

>>187
Most people are "retarded" then, whether or not it is common.
Common place doesn't mean it's okay. People should know the basics of the IP, and not just that "I know I have one."

>>188
We already took a vote and changing the label for it (if I recall) was outvoted, most being to change it to actually make a live counter showing who all is on the site, using it, and not who all 'used' the site.

>>189 I agree with you somewhat. However, I only know the basics of how a car works, and I wouldn't consider myself 'retarded' because I use one and don't know how to do an oil change.

>>191
Car=/=computer.

>>192 They are both a piece of technology people use everyday and don't fully understand. It doesn't make you stupid if you don't understand a car, so why is someone stupid if they don't understand a computer?

>>192 I agree with you completely,but still it is a thing a person should know

>>194

The thing is, there are specifics in a car and a computer one should know. For instance, how to change a tire. Imagine the tire is the IP. It can also change.

But that's not the point. For instance the deeper you get into a car, the more professional work you need to do to it. Same for a computer. The IP is something people really should know because it's not really so deep into the computer. It's something you can easily learn.

>>195 I see your point. However, being traceable by a website from your IP address is not as common knowledge as the IP address itself. Same thing with the difference between an internal/external IP address, a static IP address, ranges, etc.

Basically, to sum up my opinion: people should know more about technologies they use, moreso something simple like an IP address. However, people don't really need to understand it to use a computer, so I don't think they are stupid or retarded for not knowing a lot about it. I could say the same thing about how mathematics is performed via bitwise operators. That is easy to learn, however essentially useless to most people.

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agreed! Just because you log into this site once doesnt make you a Dollar. It just means you visited. plus isn't it more interesting to wonder how many people there are?

I would prefer keeping the members count though because it looks cool and makes it somehow seem more official, at least for me~~~

Although it would be nice if there was a better way to keep track of members and stuff, but I guess that'd require an account and password. It would be good if there was at least some way to keep track of the members through their usernames, and at the same time, make it so that usernames cannot overlap each other...although either way, it would require a s***load of changes to this site and programming and blah.

The best idea would be a "I'm a DOLLAR" with optional name + tripcode entry for an unofficial count.

This way it isn't tied to simple visit-counting, and it also it's only changed once someone adds to the list rather than an external IP change (which can happen frequently depending on connection)

>>202
Well we all determined we want it to be a "Currently online" counter and as such it's being presented to Reltair as the suggestion.

>>203 Who is ?

>>204 Everybody yet nobody.

When I first came here to this site, I saw the member count and I'm amazed at how many members we really have in here. But I soon later knew that it only counts to those people who come in many times, thus upping the number. So I think we should put down the member count. Doesn't really do anything except making false excitement that there are a lot of people coming here...My opinion though, I'm waiting to see the others.

>>206
I have a feeling you didn't read all 205 posts on this topic. I just have that feeling.

yeah.. lets make that random number disappear, but better yet..lets make it blow off the charts..

i think that we should get lots more people involved in doing good.. if you seen my goal (its posted everywhere), we can make a change dy doing certain deeds..we can make the dollars known for good an not for evil! we can do it!

It would be nice if we could have an actual member count, rather than just a hit count.

I'll go tell my friends about the Dollars anyhow.

>>208
How about you stop spamming this shit on posts? No one cares. We're just a community website for conversations with a side board for those who WISH to do missions.

Keep your bullshit in one topic, on the Missions board only.

Let's do it

I agree on the "Currently online" counter, if Thiamor or someone has not yet emailed Reltair, they should. I think we should get this counter thing put to bed (if I phrased that correctly).

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>>212 I like the idea of a currently online counter that sounds great

Maybe it's best that the number of members that are actually in the dollars stay a mystery.

>>216
It's not really a mystery, not much, nor are we all enjoying the fact we don't exactly know. No one actually gives a shit about the so called mystery.

>>217 Correction: you don't. You haven't taken a poll, or even asked around as far as I know, so don't assume you know what anyone, let alone everyone is thinking until you put some work behind it.

Also, you mentioned this very thing in your opening post:

"if it's gone it leaves more of that anonymous feel to it."

Why not have the member board stay, but maybe add a thing that says how many people are on? I mean it's way more fun knowing that hey we have that many people, but to know that there's this many people that are online looking for knowledge and not just chatting is cool. It just shows that there are
people that come one here to help.

We "DON'T" have that many people, though, Pure. We don't have nowhere even near 409,583 members. Perhaps a few thousand if that. If you'd read stuff posted, instead of what you want to see, you'd know that, and why we need to change it.

>>218
I don't need a poll though. All you have to do is read the posts to know no one actually cares about how many we may have. Also by anonymous, I didn't mean what >>216 is meaning.

>>221 I read the entire thread and there was no mention of not caring. Most people said we could never know exactly, but I don't think that means they don't care. If anything, it indicates the opposite. I like the idea of not knowing exactly how many people are in the Dollars, personally. It's just a personal preference that doesn't mean anything, but I think it's cool and so might others.

What did you mean by 'anonymous feel', if not the limited knowledge about the size of the group? Removing the member count removes the only, albeit inaccurate indication of the number of members.

This site is a copy of the one in the anime, trying to be as close as possible, right? So, if they have an opportunity to make something look like what it did in the anime (like the member count), then it should stay. That's my thoughts.

>>223
We're not trying to be some copy. We just based it on the anime when starting. We're not some fan group, so why keep something if it's not really working? Also the member count, I really doubt was shown in the anime anyway.

This should probably happen.
We took a poll before and most people wanted a currently online counter, instead of the highly inaccurate and misleading member counter.
Does anyone disagree with that?

>>225
Not gonna lie, the current member count thing is quite amusing. It suggests a greater presence that doesn't actually exist. I kind of like it. However, this isn't an anime and useful things should be given priority over novelty things. I am in favor of a currently online counter.

Yeah, the Member count is very misleading. I would have to agree that a currently online counter would be the way to go, but it is fun to see when it goes up.

If no one disagrees with removing the current member counter, and changing it to a currently online counter, I can email Reltair about it, if that hasn't already happened.

>>228 Roll it out.

Yes,I also think we should replace it.

>>229 It's been rolled.

💁I've been hearing a lot about people saying we should wear a color. Before everyone gets mad at me I know where a colorless gang. But instead of wearing a color we can wear dollar signs. Let me know what you think.💲💰

>>232 This has nothing to do with thread.

While this is up here, I have not yet heard a reply.

It goes by IP addresses, so if someone joins the dollars from home, coffee shop, school, and so on it counts them, BUT multiple people sign onto the dollars from one IP address, one house can have 4 people in it all going on the site, they only count as one, and the number is that far off from what it is legit, a crap ton of people just dont talk or just go directly to the chatrooms

>>235
We know that, and we're working to change it to a "currently online" list.

>>236 I've sent an email. No reply yet.

>>237 Okay, so it's been about two months since I sent it. Is that worthy of a re-try?

I guess so.

>>238 Definitely.

>>239 >>240 Take 2: out and away.

Yes defiantly

He said he's looking into it.

Woop woop :3

>>244 I'm excited, I think this will happen.
I'm actually glad, it'll set a better idea of how busy the site is.

I have a question

Then ask :I

My iPad has the member count it's in the top right corner!

>>248 stop breathing air please

I prefer to live and why

Oh i see douch

Heyo Barabi, Sleep, and Thiamor /o/ It's been a while.

I'm interested in seeing how well this "Currently Online" or "Active Members" count turns out in comparison to the current massive build-up of IPs that have collected over time.

>>252 I think it'll be nice.
It will give a more realistic member count and idea of how busy the site is.

I honestly believe people will be disappointed by the results.

>>254
Doesn't really matter. It is more professional looking to have it this way and will eventually grow on people, I think.

>>254 Only if they think there are 400 000 members.

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Here we go!

I see it's gone but didn't we agree on a "currently online" counter. Exactly what the fuck happened?

Probably just recently got removed, so I have hope :p

>>259 I think he's still looking for one he can use in Kareha. I messaged him and he replied.

>>259 I removed the member count to reduce CPU usage on the server since that was causing issues with the hosting provider.