My suggestion is simple. Let's face the facts, we all know we're just playing pretend, thinking we're part of some big group that will actually go somewhere, we're not. This site or group, or whatever you want to call it, is just a fan page for the gang that was in an anime. We're not serious about anything, are we? So what do we do exactly? Well, we have to become known.

Let's face facts, no matter how much you want to lie to yourself, or to your friends; you came to this site right after watching Durarara. You thought this place was cool, and that it was some sort of online gang similar to the one in the anime. Well it isn't. It's no where near what it really should be. All because people aren't taking us seriously, which, in all due respect, is reasonable. Who would want to be part of some group they saw in an anime? I'd be too ashamed to even admit it, or my real name.

My proposal is simple, all we do to change this is become known. We need to stop lurking in the shadows, and doing little deeds that get us no where, look at Anonymous, what did they do to get known? They made freaky videos telling the truth to the world with a mask on. They've held their identity, yet they made a big commotion about things, thus, making them known.

->What should we do? We should do the same. The person who created this site probably thought it would be fun, but he/she/they. Need to step up their game and make us known; threw Youtube/Media. They don't have to show their faces, a simple background of the Dollars suits the video fine. Then we tell them the truth. About everything, and anything the people want to hear. Sounds simple, right?
->We place banners simply saying "Dollars." Nothing more, nothing less. Our logo should do the trick.
We help people out, but instead of tell the people you helped out your name, hand them a black business card. On that card is nothing more than our mere "Dollars" logo. Let the people know that we exist, and that we intend to do good.

TL;DR

Make ourselves known through simple "Dollars" Logo flyers, hand out little business cards with the "Dollars" logo on it.
Our leader should also make Youtube videos telling the truth for the media to watch. They don't appear in the video, the only thing that loads up is the "Dollars" background logo.

>>1 I don't think videos need to be made about telling the truth for media to watch, sounds too similar to what the Anonymous do.
I sorta agree with you about us not really lurking in the shadows. Flyers/business cards with just the logo sound ok.
I also agree with giving the person you've helped a card w/ the logo instead of giving them your name.

Sir, first things first. We have no leader. No one's leading us, no one person is running this show. Yes, we have an admin, but that's all he is, someone who made the site, take care of the site through banning people if they fucked up in giant proportions and to add functions to the site if necessary.

The leader is the community, so basically, we all are leaders in our own right. So getting the admin to do this video or whatever, will most likely, 99% likely not happen.

Next, I'm not gonna deny the fact that the member base is made up of mostly anime freaks, geeks, and durarara nerds. It's about 60% at the least. But I will have to say that, in the two years this site has been up and running, we've diversified, to an extent. And we also have some intelligent members, seeing the discussion threads of sorts in Main, Random, News, hell there's Music discussions too.

Now, since I've brought up the fact that we've been up for two years, I'll elaborate. In those two years, we've had missions, because this community likes to pride itself on suggesting and doing the missions. The Missions board was not made until "08-14-2011", a year after the site was made, but we still had mission threads, a handful of them.

So do you still think this site isn't known? We've had many missions that handled on getting this site known. We've had missions to write our URL on dollar bills, we've had tons of missions that I can't really recall off the top of my head. I think we've had missions on putting the logo on business cards as well.

Now, I don't suppose you've seen this thread have you: http://dollars-bbs.org/main/res/1339609678.html

It basically shows that we ARE known, not worldwide, but we are known. Not America either... We're known to the people of Chile, and subsequently, any other types of people who read this magazine.

So, don't say shit about us not being known outside the anime community. We are known, not well known, and not known to the demographic that you probably aren't looking for. But we are known. And this is in two years of doing this kind of shit.

I believe the original maker of this thread had good intentions as too increase the groups area of influence. If more people knew about Dollars, more people join therefore we hopefully gain more members which leads of us being able to do more good in different areas.

I do not think he is trying to say that the group is worthless and is not 'known' but just that on a larger scale the Dollar group is not as powerful as it COULD be.

I'll honest, today is the first day i have come to this site and this is the first comment i have made. My original ideas of the site was that it was a site made by fans of the anime Durarara to make themselves 'feel special' by having the same name as an anime. However after a bit of surfing through the site, i genuenly believed it was a site full of people wanting to help those less fortunate.

Now back to the original matter, this site could really be more better known, however like the person above me said we the community is the leader. Therefore i suggest putting it somehow like a mission to the community to get the Dollar name out to the world.

P.S. Sorry for the bad english ><

I'll elaborate later on, but I'll just throw in my two cents for now:

I think you have the wrong idea. I think you've the wrong idea about what we're trying to be, what we should be, and what we really are. It needs some reevaluating, and consideration of the fact that we are simply a community. Delusions of grandeur beyond that will lead to failure and being labeled as tryhards, while serendipity through simple deeds alone are quite enough for our purposes.

I like that you're being realistic about where we come from instead of flat-out denying our origin in Durarara (there is nothing wrong with this, since it was the idea and not the fandom that let this thrive), or joining in the mass of anime fans that are only here for one purpose. But I think you went too far off the other end of the spectrum, and you need to chill out a bit.

I'll organize my thoughts a little better after I've had sleep. But consider taking a step back before considering we even need to be known. Not actively hiding, but not blatantly advertising, either.

I see your point, over advertising would destroy any reputation this group has or will have.

After re-reading what i originally wrote i do believe that i am in the wrong when i made myself look like i am saying we should go out and advertise non-stop to the entire world.

This group is just a group that does simple deeds, nothing major, that's the way it is and the way it should stay. The majority of the community will do things in their spare time and more for fun then anything else i believe.

However i do believe that by doing good deeds we will be able to influence the lives of other, and too not know who helped them would be a shame. My suggestion is slightly different from the original idea of youtube and media, its more of just a "word by mouth" kinda thing.

By telling others who we are, it is possible to lead by example. I went to the Mission section just awhile ago to find a mission about blood donation, it suggested that some willing members of the community to go donate blood on a particular day wearing all black. I do believe this idea is great, as it not only allows us to help others, but also allows us to strike awareness in others that their is a group out their trying to help.

All the things i have just said is without a doubt extremely unlikely, it would be strange for someone to notice a bunch of people in black giving blood donations. However that is the basics of my suggestion, not anything grandeur, just small things to strike awareness in others and to tell them their is a group out their trying to help.

Chances are this method will never grab anybodies attention and all the effort will all be for naught, however it won't cost us anything and their is a chance someone will notice. So my question is why not try?

Again i am sorry about my earlier comment, as i said before I've only just found out about this group so all that I've said is based of my limited knowledge. Again i apologize if my comment has offend anyone. As you can see I'm an apologetic...i wonder if that's the correct word. I'm sorry grammar nazies.

The haters can say anything they want, but I think that this is a good idea. I'm going to start making flyers and things to hand out. Getting the word out there is the best. We can still do only minor deeds to help, but there are ways to let people know without over advertising. Lets Start by putting our names on everything that we do. My town has very few Dollars in it. We don't even have to say what we're doing. Just get people's attention.

>>6 I don't think anything in your comment was offensive; if anything, I apologize if it sounded like I was directing my comment towards you. It was moreso towards OP, and the general idea of this thread itself.

I'm going to continue asking relevant questions here:
>>7 You say "getting the word out there is the best."
Why is it the best? What is the word? What are we, who do we advertise to, who are we made up of, what is our goal?
Do we even have a goal? Do we need a goal? Are the things we do only because it is our creed, or simply because we can?

I don't think our goal has ever explicitly been to do good things. That's just what many members here like to do. It was a result of the community, and admittedly inspired by the events of the show itself. But people often forget that, in the show itself, it wasn't their goal either - they were just a group of like-minded individuals that decided on a whim to do stuff. And that's what we are, and always will be; there will never be an official statement of intent, and people who come here can do whatever they want without needing a reason.

So that brings us to, "who do we advertise to," or an even better question, "do we even need to advertise?" Why do we need more members?
Our community is run without a leader, and the moderators are only here for cleanup - not for direction. Therefore, the most important thing is the quality of the community. New members are great, and I'm not saying we have to be selective, but just consider what random, widespread advertising would manage to accomplish.

Don't interpret this too far on one end of the spectrum - I'm not saying we need to keep it a well-kept secret to avoid the rabble. If I had to word it very briefly, I'd say we need to just not care about how widespread we are. Not on a grand scale, anyway. Advertising without a real reason is sort of silly, isn't it?

Well, guess I'll state my opinion upon the matter.

First off, we don't have a leader. As *insertnamehere* stated, all we have is a site admin; but that's all he is. An admin. A person who runs the site.

Now, I do think that getting our name out there is a fantastic idea, but videos? That's taking it too far. I thought we were unique. Or are we now trying to mimic Anonymous?
I think that the business card idea and banners and such are all good ideas. They help get the name out there. We could also possibly put "baccano" on the back of the business cards.

Thank you everyone for your kind thoughts and ideas. I know the video thing was a bit too far, and too similar to something that of "Anonymous" would do. So I would like to withdraw said idea. I would also like to continue the idea of just simply getting our names out there, with little business cards, and flyers.Just so people would get the right idea that we are do-gooders and nothing harmful. The idea of wearing all black to a blood donation is a great idea, it would raise awareness of our being. I want people to look up to this group, and not look the other way. I don't want this group to die out eventually due to poor advertising and never doing anything for the group. Hope you all can understand where I'm coming from.

>>10 I like your idea of being known to let the people know that there are still a lot of people doing good deeds, to let them know that the world isn't as bad as it seems, but I still like being transparent like the other members do because if we aren't, aren't we just going to be like the other groups out there wanting to be recognized? Why don't we just focus more on the missions? And I don't think doing good things are the reasons why some members are here, we all have different goals and purposes or maybe we don't even have one like >>8 said. Being recognized isn't the only way and people wouldn't think that we are harmful if they don't know us, right?

Fuck you for bumping this.
this thread does not belong of this board, refrain from commenting on it and let it die

>>12 Oh really? What board does it belong then?

he has a good point guys, this site is a joke. But it has the potential to be something big.

We need to get off our asses and start doing what we set out to do: make the world a better place.

Some people don't seem to understand that not everyone here comes here solely to 'make the world a better place'. Yes, there've been some great missions here and it's awesome and all, but surely I'm not the only one who comes here simply to pass the time, and to interact with new people?

I mean, I'm not saying that people shouldn't try and do what they can to make things better, but it just frustrates me a little that some people here act as if this is the sole purpose of this site.

Anyway, I'm not going to bash this idea or anything, and I respect everyone else's opinion. Just wanted to point that out.

>>16 I agree at some points, but we should let those people who do want to make a difference to do something to make what they feel can be a difference.
If I may make a suggestion, if we want to "become known" anyone with a youtube account can add in the dollars logo for a few seconds in the video. But I would also suggest that these people to say that their friend said they should put it in the video and they have no idea what it means, just to keep people guessing. A lot of members don't want to come out of the shadows. I suggest doing subtle things that will get people's attention, but nothing that will scream "HERE I AM! I'M A DOLLAR!"
Do you know what I mean?

>>13 Nowhere. Shut up the fuck up, stop commenting, and do something besides letting shit threads be seen.

I like the idea - of being more known - but I'd like to be known as something other than an anime fandom website.
We should be our own group, away from the Durarara Dollars. I don't want people to associate us with them, I want us to be our own group called the Dollars who just happened to get inspiration from an anime.
I think instead of making youtube accounts and getting into the media big-time like Anonymous, we should just do little things.
I saw someone putting blank postcards with happy notes on strangers' doors, signed The Dollars. Just do little things to help our community, and slowly spread the word about the Dollars.
I like the idea of making the world a better place, and I think that the real-life Dollars could become an icon for good. Maybe not being as extreme as Anonymous, and no Youtube accounts - not yet. Let's just get a reputation as an organization for good first.

>get a reputation as an organization for good
>http://dollars-bbs.org/main/res/1339609678.html

'Nuff said. Just rebutting though, carry on.

>>19 How about YOU shut the fuck up? Just cause you're a lazy fucking asshole who has nothing better to do than rip on perfectly good ideas doesn't mean we all are; so either shut up and mellow the fuck out or stay off threads you know you wont like.

Anyway... I really like this idea! Though I agree that videos at this point in time, i like the idea of having business cards and the like, maybe also putting slips of paper with the site address and password into the lockers at school, though I know thats been suggested already somewhere else, I have loads of friends at school that I'm sure would be interested as well, maybe taping sheets of paper with the logo, site address and password on street light poles and on the walls of buildings and stuff would work too. I think we have so much potential to be more than just a small unheard of website (except in Chile of course).

This is good, all of the people here have wonderful ideas and their own unique way of getting our name out there. As of now, there are 166,000 members of the Dollars. That's a small number according to the 7 billion people who roam the Earth. I don't plan on getting anywhere over five hundred thousand joining, but it's a good goal to set for our site. The more people who find out about us, and what we do is for the good of the people and humanity, more and more people will join us in our deeds, they will see the light, and help others see the light as well. We have to remind the people that there's always a place to go, even if it does seem hopeless, when it never really was hopeless to begin with. We can make a change, we can make difference.

In our own, unique ways.

>>23 just wanna point out that that number is just an IP counter... we really have probably less than 300 members haha, but still, the enthusiasm is good

Sleep - if there is somewhere that this has been addressed, probably a good idea to fish that link out. I haven't been around in a while, but I think it might've been addressed in the FAQ thread? That's usually a good place to start.

Technically speaking it was a suggestion about the site, since it was a discussion about the direction we take on things. And even if it is a mistake to say that, it's an honest mistake to make. I'm not trying to play white knight or anything, but the tone can be let up in situations where they're simply unaware and not circlejerking or anything.

But if this discussion is becoming more about what to do, there is a thread I made on the missions board called "Propagation" (it's in the archive somewhere). I made it as an umbrella topic for generally trying to spread the word, since goal or not, that's something people like to do. I suggest the conversation be taken over there instead.

>>25 the way I see this thread as is its just another one of those threads saying we should go out there n help the world with our super awesome dollar powers that we totally have. That doesnt really sound like something that pertains to the site itself in the slightly. Could it be a mission? Sure, but to me this isn't something that belongs in suggestions.

Why don't you make the video then? We are the dollars after all no real leader no rules, the point is we are free.

Also i really think just letting flyers around with nothing but or logo on it and maybe some slogan is fine, the business card thing is good too, really if every one did that you'd bet people would know about the dollars. Another thing this sight definitely isn't full of pretenders these people or most of these people genuinely want to do good, and alot are really putting in the effort to do it.

THIS IS NOT A FAN PAGE!

If this is not a fansite then why does it resemble the design and name of the actual site from the anime? Does this even have the right to copy such content and idea? So to make others not to think that this site is not a fansite, change the name and the design content to make it more unique since everyone old fag insists that this is not a fansite shesh.

>>29 There's a difference between something that's inspired by and something that's based on. A "fansite" is based on something from an anime. This site, however, was inspired by something from an anime. The layout, password, and name are the same to keep the tradition from the anime. However, the way we work, the way we're spread out, the people here, the rules, the way we act, et cetera are different. We don't openly welcome fanfags who are determined to shove Drrr!! down the other members' throats. What makes it unique isn't the layout, but the members' personalities and presences within the site.

>>30 One cannot simply remove the idea as due to what they see. A good example is debunote if you've used it way way back the old days. It was deathnote at first, changed its name to remove the idea of being linked to deathnote. Tho it may look like a note, as it clearly states accompanied with a vid that the note is for fat transformation not for death. So there is something that must be shown first before the content since no stupid being would care to manage navigating truout the site just find teh discussion for that.

Okay, I like the idea of getting are name out there but I mean there's a lot of trolls and assholes around. I know I just started and I don't really have a right to say this but I think dollars isn't the type of group that would try to become famous. It's probably the type of group that has rumored about but no one really belives it. Our name would still be out there but it just wouldn't be too out there get what I mean...

Guys, it doesn't matter whether or not this is a fansite; or rather, that isn't what we're talking about on this thread. What matters is that we at least try to get our name out there. Not only that, but to also spread our message that, no matter how bad things may be, the world isn't as bad as it may seem. That's what's important here, and that is what we are discussing, or at least a way to reach that goal.

>>32 I think that you are partially correct there, the Dollars are not meant to be famous as individuals, people should not be known for being a Dollar. Rather, the Dollars are an idea, and our job as members of the Dollars is to try and spread the idea that we believe in as Dollars.

For me, it doesn't matter if we're known or not we should keep doing our moves nice and slow. Who knows maybe not now but someday people will be noticing what we are aiming, right? Little things really count a lot, don't you think? :)

I like the idea of black business cards after helping people out. I think I shall try this! :)

Um, I'm not trying to play pretend. And I've met a real Dollar actually doing missions so I'm pretty sure not all of us are really "pretending". I agree with >>34 , it shouldn't really matter if the Dollars are well-known or anything; as long as we're at least trying to do even tiny things to make at least one person's world better, then that should be what matters.

Also why does this keep coming up? I understand there are people who do want us to be well-known, and I'm not insulting them (I think it might be cool if we were well-known at least enough where we can be whispers of rumors like the very thing that inspired but does NOT rule us), but I hate that most of the time that people bring the whole "Dollars aren't well-known" issue, they say how we're not good enough or we're not a real group or something stupid like that. Can we at least have just ONE thread where people can complain about this so it doesn't have to be on the board page every time anyone renews the page? (your suggestion is basically the same as everyone else's who complains about this, Xen, no offence but that's the truth)

I agree with Xen, and everyone who thinks they should make The Dollars known, without actually making it "known" those cards and flyers with just the logo is a pretty good idea, maybe we could like draw the logo on a sheet of paper or print it out on a sheet of paper, make airplanes, and throw them? Someone curious will see the logo on it, and open it to find the password to this site, along with the web site address

I don't know if anyone else remembers this but there was a mission underneath the missions thread that was basically just like Kony 2012 except we do it with the dollars. Someone needs to make a cool poster for the dollars. then whoever does the mission prints them out and under the cover of night we go and hang the posters around public places. Seeing as it's similar to something that was big it is bound to grab attention especially if enough of us do it.

Tsukkuyomi agreed!!

After reading over a lot of the posts in this thread, it seems that people basically think this.
"I think it's a good idea to be known, but not TOO known."

Therefore, I think I might come up with a design for a simple business card. It would most likely be all black, with the Dollars logo on the front, and MAYBE the word baccano on the back.

Also, >>9 is me. Name change bitches.

>>40 I like your new name much better ;o

>>41
Why thank you. c:

well, i may as well throw my 2 cents in as well. to tell the truth, i joined simply because of the anime at first. i mean, it's a great show. but after i looked around the site a bit, i noticed it's more than just some fan group. this group is a group of people who actually want to do good in this world. that's hard to come by sometimes. who cares if we're known or not? i don't see the dollars as being some big shot organization but simply a group of people who share the same ideas and motives. it's more something to stand for than anything for me.

i dont know about you guys but i think the dollars is a place
were you can belong and not be judged for who you are
we also help by helping others by saying the world is not as bad
as it seems

I AGREE... I want with this site known by everybody like facebook and even if its a dream at least I want to admit to myself that i am trying to make this ridiculous dream of mine come true...

i just post something just now however, after strolling this site for a while i realize that there a various emotion that makes this website more lively, thank you to the ones who make this website...

Many pop culture things have become a much bigger thing and I don't get why every one is saying this is a game. Yes I know what created this was a show but like there I simple joke became something a lot bigger if we stick with this the sad truth may just be a humble beginning.

im posting posters all though out the town tommorow

This guy has the right idea. I can't even think of how to say how right he is.

Before I begin, please forgive me if I repeat the bulk of someone else's ideas, as I've been gone a while and didn't read the bulk of the responses. I do hope that if this be the case it be recognized as a quantification, and not some theft of someone else's thoughts.
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>>1

Now, the first gut reaction in seeing this thread I had was to swear you out for your negligence and lofty assumptions of who we are in real life, but I bit my tongue because you did seem to carry some rational perspectives. I've been around for a few years and theirs been times where I became disgruntled by the lack of attention we receive for our works, but my arguments were different. Thereby, I agree with your motive to attain more attention to the outside community, after all even though the majority of members come from the north american region we've made no more than a tiny blip on a national radar at any given point in time, but I disagree with your aims to achieve recognition.

"We should do the same." No, a thousand times no. I hate to say that outright, but trying to achieve acknowledgment through mimicry in any form does not make a group any more than a copycat. Any recognition we would gain we forever be as "a group like Anon." As much as it costs us, we need to act by our own methods and follow our own gains, no less.

"-and make us known; threw Youtube/Media." Do you even know how many useless individuals, groups, and faceless entities are trying to garner fame through this at this very moment? Unless we really have something huge to throw at the world, things like this ain't gonna do a damned thing. "The world isn't as bad as you think." just ain't gonna cut it, sorry.

"We place banners simply saying "Dollars."" Okay...I never did understand this one. Yeah yeah, the whole "get our name out there" thing, but something that massive makes us more of a pest to the community than an aid. It makes us no better than taggers, which as my anime-watching cohorts will inform you, was one of the problems they set to undo. I see no issue in cards, letters, whatever, but actions yell where words whisper. Make them wonder who...THEN tell 'em.

"This site or group, or whatever you want to call it, is just a fan page for the gang that was in an anime."
This one is my ABSOLUTE favorite. As much as so many of us want to, the truth is so many of us fail to escape this little specification. I came that way, most of everyone else came this way, you obviously came this way OP, but there's something changing here. The anime is over, and the situation is in our favor. This is why I always come back. The anime, as some of us will enthusiastically tell you and others will refuse to accept, was never all that great. The amount of new people looking to live out their Durarara anime fantasy is dwindling, and we have the chance to bring people here through the good works of existing members, not anime. In fact, if we hope to exist further into the future, it's what we must rely on.

In the end, we have to accept the pitfalls of our own society. In places like america, there are two foundations through which we can become known. Cash is inevitably one, it gets the eyes of corporations, governments, and people alike, but no one here seems readily willing to buy our way into the spotlight. Thereby our only other option is to become know through the people. Do what you can, do it without recompense, do it with pride and at the end of the day don't tell them what to do. It's like shaming them for not having done it themselves. Tell them who sent you, and be on your way. It takes time, no one wants to admit it, but it's well worth the wait.

As always- /rant

Xen, you are right, we need to be know throughout the world. We should do what they did in the show, we should do really great deeds to be know, not as a shadow gang or orginazation.

I was actually gonna see if I could start a sort of hangout kinda thing for any Dollars in my area. Becuz I wanna do good in my needy little town. we just went through a flood and maybe the Dollars could totally get together and help! this was a totally inspirational post.

That is a great idea. We can sent up meetings in areas that are in great need.

>>51 >>52 >>53
Okay great.
Let us know when you set those things up.

Aside from the fact that this is some reason on the top of the board, why is this even on the page? Doesn't look like it has anything to do with this site at all.

It really doesn't. The most I've seen come of it is some continual fanchilding.

TBH, if anywhere this is more of a mission topic since we already know OP's idea of having our "leader" run this is...well retarded.

It's not just fanchilding. If you dont believe in the dollars why are you here, Zeckarias? HHHHMMMMMM!!!

>>57
I really SHOULDN'T dignify that with a response. Shouldn't

>>50 Was my detailed and oriented response. If you want it point-blank, OP doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about, mostly shown by the fact that he wants us all to act like Anon and wants our leader to make public videos.
(Spoiler alert for dipshits that didn't read the info you were supposed to when you came here, THERE IS NO FUCKING LEADER)

Okay, that's about all I needed to say. If you have something logical to propose, by all means I'm up for it. Otherwise I'm done feeding the trolls.

This guy has got to be trolling, whatever, guys dont feed the trolls

You are telling us to be like Anonymous?I'd rather not end up in jail for hacking something or other so no thank you.I agree that we should be known but not for something like Anonymous does.

We are NOT Anonymous! Unlike them, we work in the shadows and will always remain in the shadows. People would barely know about us. Anonymous- everybody knows who they are. We're different. We're better. And there really are DOLLARS out there who are serious. And to be honest, I'm not incredibly serious but I do take this gang quite seriously. I'm not always able to do at least half the missions, but I really try.

dont listen to his lies i agree with >>59. there are serious dollars out there because im one of them. we arnt just some fan group thats going nowhere, were just an unknown group thats trying to make the world a better place. and yes we will make a difference and we will become something big. just have faith in the dollars.

The thing is, No one knows what the Dollars are. If you wanna go on the website, you need a password. If I look it up on google, all I see is a fictional story about this anime. Really, I wouldn't be intrigued. If I were handed that card and looked it up, I'd be like, "What a freak, who would give me that?" Maybe we should make a website that'll explain everything and put the url on the card.

>>63 We're definitely into Missions tab territory now, and no idea why this hasn't been saged, but...
I don't really agree with that. I mean, a website to explain a website that has all the resources to explain itself...why? Also, I don't believe in flinging around names, for just the reason you mentioned. The trick is, you have to do something BEFORE that makes them overlook it. I mean, if someone gave me a card for someplace out of the blue, I'd be the same way as you...BUT, if I was witnessing someone doing something great, something admirable, one of those things that just makes me think, "Awesome," then it'd be enough for me to see past, and I could really look for what's the true value within the group.
And I beat the dead horse mercilessly, but that's the way it should be done.

I suggest we enter a new site all together. The name is too closely connected to DRRR. If we keep as the name of the Dollars, people will always compare us to the anime or criticize us. If we are ever to be taken seriously or start actually DOING something, we need to disconnect ourselves from that world.

>>65
Now that will be extremely difficult to get anyone here behind. After all, other groups exist, (I myself am a member of several), but this one was made based entirely upon the premise of the shadow-philanthropy group from a B-class anime.

To create something separate, we would need a solid group of people who all wanted the same thing, were willing to commit the effort necessary to connect everyone under their new guise, and negotiate a system of retainment, action, and recruitment. Here, we get a slow feed of people who have heard of this from the anime, if we were to form something else, all that recruitment so many of us seem to want to concentrate on already.

Now, if anyone here really wanted to put the effort to do such a thing, I'd read into it and most likely help you all the way, but it'd take a lot more than what most anyone here would bargain for.

>>65 Cut that REALLY brief, by the way, but long story short, ain't gonna happen without a solid steel plan in place first.

I agree with you.
I think we should change the password of the site and post a new one in a thread, so we cant have more fake logins like mine...
I just watched the anime and then i saw this page on a magazine, I put the password and i was in.
So if the creator of the site is reading, we can consider this for future recruitments.

>>65
We can't even get our "anime inspired" group organized to most member's liking. How are we going to do better on a different group, started from scratch(solid plan, active and willing members, recruiting more people, missions,group name, ex; ex;)?

I'm not commenting this to belittle your idea, it's a fine idea but we'll for the most part just end up with the same problem of "getting known or not being known at all" :/

If you want to make a difference in the world and do not like the way this group works... then make your own group that is not based off of an anime. If you have a new group then no anime fanboys will be there to clog the gears. Of course... that group would have to have some sort of leader system to control who got in and then regulated what the users did... roughly.

Idk. Just... this is very clearly not the group you were hoping for. Make a new one. Do important things. But don't whine and look to others to do it for you. That's bitch talk. It gets you nowhere.

>>70
Exactly.
I love the group the way it is, in my opinion. But others have a different opinion about it ^^;

>>40 I was wondering if anyone was going to offer to make the buisness cards or not. Thank you! :) Once you're done can you please post the picture (here) for the rest of us (sorry, you were probably going to do it anyway). Thank you! And ask if you need any help. I'm willing to pitch in! (P.S. I like the baccano idea)

hi i am an otaku but im also a person who thinks there shuold be change in the world ... like your ideah because i think it will have an inpact and maybe help other ppl start thinking about the mess this world is in right now .

I believe like you do my friend. We need to make ourselves known. But I first think that if our community was more united we would stad a chance. We need a vision what are we striving for as a group. The power of social media has over turned countries why can't we do something as large. We can mimic the manga and anime we have grown to admire but be inspired by it.

-Mr.Adams

>>74
But that's the problem, we can't technicly (mispelt I know...) Have a "main goal" without going against what the Dollars originally are "No rules. Free." Sounds more like you want us to become like a non-profit orginization type of group.

I don't know. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you comment

Dollars is a free group , if ppl wanna make dollars more "visible" then they can do it , and does who are fine whit how this dollars site is does what they want .. This is just my option .

Original post is technically incorrect. I joined because a friend told me about dollars. I've only seen the first episode and that was after I joined. I believe in the good in everyone and want everyone around me happy.

My main question is what if people still dont take us serioulsy

In review, why is this still here?

>>78 We're never gonna be taken seriously if we don't try.

>>80 I agree! Why not give it a try? If we all try then there's bound to be some good recognition, right?

For those of you who are still refusing to actually read why this isn't happening, I give you this. Read it.

"3 Name: *insertnamehere*!!mhJDjCwh : 2012-07-23 02:25 ID:q4i/C9EI [Del]
Sir, first things first. We have no leader. No one's leading us, no one person is running this show. Yes, we have an admin, but that's all he is, someone who made the site, take care of the site through banning people if they fucked up in giant proportions and to add functions to the site if necessary.

The leader is the community, so basically, we all are leaders in our own right. So getting the admin to do this video or whatever, will most likely, 99% likely not happen.

Next, I'm not gonna deny the fact that the member base is made up of mostly anime freaks, geeks, and durarara nerds. It's about 60% at the least. But I will have to say that, in the two years this site has been up and running, we've diversified, to an extent. And we also have some intelligent members, seeing the discussion threads of sorts in Main, Random, News, hell there's Music discussions too.

Now, since I've brought up the fact that we've been up for two years, I'll elaborate. In those two years, we've had missions, because this community likes to pride itself on suggesting and doing the missions. The Missions board was not made until "08-14-2011", a year after the site was made, but we still had mission threads, a handful of them.

So do you still think this site isn't known? We've had many missions that handled on getting this site known. We've had missions to write our URL on dollar bills, we've had tons of missions that I can't really recall off the top of my head. I think we've had missions on putting the logo on business cards as well.

Now, I don't suppose you've seen this thread have you: http://dollars-bbs.org/main/res/1339609678.html

It basically shows that we ARE known, not worldwide, but we are known. Not America either... We're known to the people of Chile, and subsequently, any other types of people who read this magazine.

So, don't say shit about us not being known outside the anime community. We are known, not well known, and not known to the demographic that you probably aren't looking for. But we are known. And this is in two years of doing this kind of shit."

Now get your heads out of your asses and read the thread from now on.

>>81 i agree too!

>>84 For those of you who are still refusing to actually read why this isn't happening, I give you this. Read it.

"3 Name: *insertnamehere*!!mhJDjCwh : 2012-07-23 02:25 ID:q4i/C9EI [Del]
Sir, first things first. We have no leader. No one's leading us, no one person is running this show. Yes, we have an admin, but that's all he is, someone who made the site, take care of the site through banning people if they fucked up in giant proportions and to add functions to the site if necessary.

The leader is the community, so basically, we all are leaders in our own right. So getting the admin to do this video or whatever, will most likely, 99% likely not happen.

Next, I'm not gonna deny the fact that the member base is made up of mostly anime freaks, geeks, and durarara nerds. It's about 60% at the least. But I will have to say that, in the two years this site has been up and running, we've diversified, to an extent. And we also have some intelligent members, seeing the discussion threads of sorts in Main, Random, News, hell there's Music discussions too.

Now, since I've brought up the fact that we've been up for two years, I'll elaborate. In those two years, we've had missions, because this community likes to pride itself on suggesting and doing the missions. The Missions board was not made until "08-14-2011", a year after the site was made, but we still had mission threads, a handful of them.

So do you still think this site isn't known? We've had many missions that handled on getting this site known. We've had missions to write our URL on dollar bills, we've had tons of missions that I can't really recall off the top of my head. I think we've had missions on putting the logo on business cards as well.

Now, I don't suppose you've seen this thread have you: http://dollars-bbs.org/main/res/1339609678.html

It basically shows that we ARE known, not worldwide, but we are known. Not America either... We're known to the people of Chile, and subsequently, any other types of people who read this magazine.

So, don't say shit about us not being known outside the anime community. We are known, not well known, and not known to the demographic that you probably aren't looking for. But we are known. And this is in two years of doing this kind of shit."

Now get your heads out of your asses and read the thread from now on.

Dude. Keep calm n bump it down. Dont waste thread space by repeating yourself.>>85

I think there are a lot of people on here who legitimately want to do something good for the communities in which they live, and if they use the "Dollars" name to do that, then that's all well and good. Yes, there are most likely a large amount of people on this site who just come here to feel "cool" because they're one of the "Dollars" from DRRR. But despite those people, we should focus on those who actually want to do something good.

Now I've only been on here for about twenty four hours, but I've already had some inspiration on things I can do around my own town to help spread goodwill. And I think that's what this is really all about. We don't need to be publicly known. I think having just a bit of knowledge about us would be more than enough. All that I believe is needed is for members of a community is that someone did something to help said community, and that person is a member of a group called the "Dollars".

I think that's a simple enough idea. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm not being a member on here and going to be doing missions for any sort of fame. My reason is just because I want to do something to help out, and being a part of this group not only lets me get ideas as to things I can do, but also a community of people to talk to and potentially make some new friends.

That's my thoughts on the subject. In short, being slightly known is enough as far as I'm concerned, and I think if we became known by "the world" then people would try to flock to us to become members and that would degrade the quality of both our name and our members.

I think there is something to the Dollars being like Anonymous, but more subtle. We don't use force to demonstrate but through small actions that are magnified by many people doing it.

There seems to be different ideas about what we are as a group, and I don't think there is or should be one right answer. We are not the Dollars in Durarara, but we are inspired by it. The Dollars in Durarara is just an online BBS who sometimes unite as a group to do something. I think we should be the same. We and this site are the Dollars, who just happen to go out and do things as a group sometimes.

I'm pretty new here, and I've seen a lot of thread about "spreading the word" and "being known". I think the Dollars should be word-of-mouth only. Like Anonymous, we are just a community without names, so we shouldn't have any symbols or special ways of identifying each other either.

>>88 I agree with pretty much your entire post. The only thing I sort of disagree on is the part about identifying other members. I'm not saying we NEED a way to do so, but I think for those of us who want other Dollars to know who they are, there should be a way of doing so.

Pretty much every action that can be done in the Dollars is completely optional, and I think this should be the same. We as a community should decide upon a way to identify other members of our group, but said method would only work if the member actively wanted to be identified. That way, it remains optional.

I think that by keeping the Dollars as we are, as a kind of a secret, we're keeping things more pure. People who do the missions on here aren't trying to get attention for themselves and are just helping out others. It's nice. I feel like if we were an openly advertised organization then some people might just be on here because they think it's cool or that it somehow makes them a better person in the eyes of others, plus we might lose members opposed to the change.

>>90 Well we're not really a secret, anyone who wants to find us can and join as well. It's just that since we're not well known it sort of feels like we're a secret. But I agree that if we try and get really well known there will be more and more members who only want to be a Dollar to be "cool". In my opinion all the "attention" would could ever want or need is for a couple people in a community to know that someone did something good for the community, and that person was part of a group called the "Dollars". That would be more than enough, I think.

>>91 very well said. We are not anonymous, if you want to be anonymous then go do that. I don't, that's why I'm here. In economics there is a term called "opportunity cost". For anybody who says what we are doing here is a waste of time then you skipped that lecture I guess. Also can we stop commenting on this? It just keeps getting brought up again.

Do you think that the creator of the site will see this post and actually do something?

>>93 Actually do what?

OK, I really don't like this idea of "being known". Why must we be known? Is that why we do these good deeds? This has been what's bothering me in this site. We DON'T have to be known as the Dollars, or as anything. We do good deeds because we believe that is the right thing to do, not because we want to get known. We don't need anyone to acknowledge us. We just need people to know that there are still people out there who are willing to let out a helping hand. That, is what I believe to be what Dollars is all about. It's not about telling people about the Dollars, it's about helping people without getting anything back other than that sense of fulfillment that you've helped someone.

>>95 ...are you, perhaps... stupid?

Reltair created this site; he updates when it's necessary and responds to emails pretty quickly. Go read the FAQ before you post anything else on this site.

As in, NOW. Shoo. Go read it - your posts won't be taken seriously until you do.

We dont need to be known, we might want to know eachother maybe, but the whole world doesn't neef to know who we are. If we do good things, its not so we get some kind of prize or fame in the end. We do the things we do because it feels good doing it, not because we get something good. Its like integrity.

Not everyone is serious, thats a no-brainer. But as for those that are serious about helping people out, they know who they are and thats all that should matter. And they should know if they need some help or assistance, there are other dollars members here who are willing to do so.

that is what this site is supposed to be about. Remember "colorless", or invisible if you will.

>>99 I agree that we don't need to be known. This isn't about some kind of reputation or anything. Those of us who do things to help should do it because we believe it's the right thing to do, not to get the Dollars some kind of fame or reputation.

Bump over saged

Being known isn't all, but Being known because of some Good action is better... Doing some videos on YouTube talking about some of our project or support to some people is a Nice idea.

We dont need to be known that defeats the purpose of being invisible and just like the show we have ppl that actually do stuff and others who just join to join or just to use the dollars name for themselves. All we need to do is do whats right

I see it like this - the group itself is known; but the individual members can choose whether or not they WANT to be known.
Just my opinion.

I'd like the dollars to get recognized. good or bad doesn't matter much to me, most people are just glad to be a part of something bigger then themselves. the dollars are what we make of them ourselves. all i ask is that we aren't cliche about it. get recognized with respect or appreciation, not blown off because of bad representation (otaku group, just a fan site etc)
if we are seen as good let us be seen as a charity organization or something like that
if we are seen as "bad" just don't let it be where we make a video with us wearing guy fawkes masks.

for those of you that want us to become known as do-gooders, we aren't going to become known by doing good deads. in the anime (one of the realistic parts) the dollars are seen as a threat early on by those that don't understand them and some dollars do bad things and some bad people say they are dollars. the point is, toward the end people recognized the dollars as being do-gooders only because they were first seen as being a bunch of colorless thugs.

>>106 agreed

After reading so many posts about the "postcard" and "not over advertising" I could just think about one thing

A small white card with our symbol and address on the front side and "baccano" on the back side, people may figure out thats the pass

Maybe a phrase written by hand such as "for a better world" that's our goal I guess.

You could leave it in any place you did something good, blood donation, anything, just that, a small card

As like the creator of this thread, I would like Dollars to be more than just a fanclub for DRRR.
We could actually be a real group that tries to help people out in small ways or ways that we can manage.
But I don't think we should over advertise.

It depends on where everyone else stands in this. As for me, I do want Dollars to get recognized and I'm willing to do it. So yea.

>>110
"I would like Dollars to be more than just a fanclub for DRRR."

We aren't a DRRR fanclub. We do have members that haven't seen (and aren't generally interested in) the series. This site is not a fansite. DRRR related things are limited to their respective thread in Animation.

"We could actually be a real group that tries to help people out in small ways or ways that we can manage."

We are. Have you even tried to look through the Missions archives? However, it's not mandatory. If you want to help, go ahead; if you don't want to help, so what? Also, what makes it 'real' and what makes it 'fake'? As long as it exists, isn't it real?

>>111 Agreed

>>>110

Well, I'm glad to hear that we are more than just a DRRR fanclub.

I did read the Missions thread but I was just wondering where this group, Dollars stand. Are we just trying to imitate what happens in DRRR for the fun of it or are we trying to be a real group that was DRRR inspired but is really trying to help people out in our own ways?

I mean, fake and true may be relative but I just want to know if we are our own group or are we simply trying to pretend that we are in DRRR by being in this group.

But as for the Missions archives, I do plan to help out as soon as my exams are over which is by this November.

So yea. But thanks for clearing up a lot of things for me and making me realize that, in a way, this group is what you make it out to be.

And I suppose, I plan to be a dollars member that wants to do a little good that I can do in this world.

>>113 I thought about working for good long before I joined. I just figured this would be a good way to get ideas to Try in my area

IF WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT HELPING PEOPLE OUT THEN WHY DON'T WE ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ?? and when I say "we" I mean all of us. I know it's possible.

>>115 We have a whole missions board for that :\ You're the one who's not serious. Instead of sitting around complaining about how other people don't do them, get off your ass and do some yourself.

honestly lets start now with something simple. like just get the dollar name everywhere on the internet. facebook, twitter, youtube, hell the comments on a porn website. we should start by just having the dollar name and or logo being dropped places.

yes. i'm so glad that this finally got posted. i'm in complete agreement that we do need to get more known, at the same time i think that part of the fact that we're not known/respected is because we haven't done anything to deserve acknowledgement or respect. i dont know. i see this place having a lot of potential. it makes me mad when i see pages like reddit and 9gag being treated more seriously then us.

whatever we decide for what going to do we should post on the mission board so more people see it.

I think it's 118 posts too late to bring this up, but this thread really doesn't actually fit the subject of this board, does it :V

At this point it seems like everyone's really agreeing on the same thing, and at this point it has become a question of how to get this done. To that end, the missions board tends to have a lot of topics about the propagation of our site, and in fact at some point I had created a thread exactly for talking about this kind of thing.

Can we move discussion to those areas? The suggestions board is about the site itself, and not necessarily its direction or activity. I failed to point this out when I posted on this thread a few months ago so I'm at fault as well :u

i posted on the mission board about one of my ideas you guys should check it out

Thank you Xen. You explained my point perfectly clear and understandable. I would really appreciate it if you help me share this philosophy with the rest of "The Dollars". I'v tried to tell people this but they just don't understand what I mean and then it always leeds to insults. When I came here I expected a place that will allow me to escape this reality and hope for a better one,but this place is no different from the world. It's hopeless and unrealistic or perhaps its to realistic...

i hope that would happen. but think about it, i everyone knew about it then everyone would want in on it and the password is easy to get really, so it wouldn't be special any more. that is my opinion on it.

i understand your point and the all of you ,buti don´t want to lose the idealistic idea about this, i have thinking exactly the same of you, but of course i won´t lose my time trying to change the way of think of the people, they know what they want to believe, for my part i only want to do something different, yes, for someone else but firstly for me and to feel well with myself. Sorry for my bad english,but really i want to try to communicate with you owo.

You see, the problem with this is that Anonymous and its subsidiaries are made up of a large mass of people. This mass of highly supportive followers both subscribe to their way of thinking and some support them actively. In order to do the things you wish, you need to have the skills to gain the information required (Cracking, generally known as hacking) as well as have a strict set of morals that the group will follow. That being said, do you see a consistent set of morals on any of these boards?

People ask me what my image means, and it is based around people like you. Simply, they wish to make a real-world impact, to create something that everyone knows. But you undermine the exact thing you need to base that off of, you can't crave change to gain notoriety. You need to crave change for the sake of change.

Welcome to the Utopia, the home of pixels and code, to the place where communication is free and ideas are spread. Welcome to the world wide web. We don't need recognition, only our own thoughts.

Starting a mission thread to propose we create a universal Dollars buisness card! Anyone who supports the idea please help put his into motion and visit the thread!!!

Excuse me for this response... I just thought of something however.... Maybe it's not how we act in the group, it's who's in it....

If we were to be able to get someone extremely influential to join... politicians? Musicians or Movie stars maybe.... I'm just saying we need to focus our acts together to get the support of people that others might be inspired by... I mean

If for some reason we managed to recruit someone like the president, we'd have no problem, as he's watched almost every minute of the day, if we could get someone like him to merely mention us, it makes life so much easier...

Another Idea i've got is to generally do something extraordinary, if one of us could pull out a heroic feat of some sort, eg, saving someone's life from a fire or raising mass cash for a charity... this is where the idea of "Dollars Day" come's in, where, if we could, go around and raise money for foundations, charities or individuals in the Dollars name.....

I agree with getting famous people or politicians to recognize us would be nice media, but that has to either come later, or not at all. Because then we gotta ask, well dammit, what kid of famous people or politicians do we want on our side? Some of those people we actually don't want endorsing us... Not to mention, this is an online "gang". No one in there right mind would be an advocate for us right now, cuz as soon as they see that word, they're gonna ignore us.
I'm thinking of definitely using YouTube to spread the word. Maybe some peeps of mine can go around helping others in the county, rec on video with our Dollars insignia or business card. But the main important thing I think is, we gotta help others while making it fun.

I agree with a lot of the points you and everyone have made. However in response to the original post, I just joined the Dollars recently and I can't speak for others, but I didn't come here after watching the anime. I've actually seen some of the stuff the dollars do and that's what got me to join. The sign and the url was enough to get me interested and search.
I only watched the anime after I heard about and researched this site. Again,I can't speak for everyone and I realise most people come here knowing the anime. But I've understood at once that the concept of the dollars in real life is different to that in the anime and its just based on the ideas the anime presented. I think there's real potential for us to do some amazing things and that's why I'm here.
Some awareness of dollars is probably a good thing, because we have to think in terms of reality, but too much might affect negatively of what the dollars stand for and the belief that you don't have to be outrageously famous to make change happen. I think we just have to remember that helping others is our main concern.

Look, I know everyone is concerned about becoming known, but part of the reason the original anime group was created was to be unknown. Getting publicity isn't something we should aim to do. The fact that we exist, and maybe that someone else has reason to think we do- even if that's just because we start a rumor or drop our name- should be enough. We don't need to do anything huge right now. The small things are pretty much all we can fo until we get more members. I mean, just because a lot of us speak English doesn't mean we all live nearby each other. Paying it forward is the best we can do, unless an individual group comes together for a specific purpose. I also have a bit of a problem with people's comparisons to Anonymous... I don't think they're as similar to the dollars as people are letting on.

>>129 I kinda think that's what we were agreein on in the beginning for future objectives, but then we sort of derailed and got caught up in dreams of grandeur, so thanks for bringing us back.

It's simple, we need an Izaya.

Yuck, The Dollars being known?
The Hipsters on this website would not be proud.

>>131 Fuck no we don't need an Izaya. Although...

Ahhh, I see what you mean. Someone super strategic.

All I honestly remember Izaya for is being manipulative, back stabbing, master of assholes...

Maybe a Lelouch would be better?

That's a great idea. Lelouch is definitely who we need. But how to find him...

Anybody wanna make a real dollars it can start off with small things and we can be know or not kinda like a urban legend? sounds fun to me anyone else wanna do i?

>>135
No.

>>136 Dude. Leave this post alone. It's actually in the right place.

>>135 You keep posting this everywhere, so by now you've seen the site a bit and realize that a lot have discussed this topic and given out suggestions. Why not pick one & share your findings?

>>137 no, it isnt.

>>138 (shakeshead'whydoIeven...')

Xen's talking about the Dollar's becoming more known . Lexxi's reply is also about becoming more known.
Xen & Lexxi = Same brain wavelength.

Sure Lexxi coulda read the post and responded with something that wasnt an abridged repeat of what Xen just said, but yeah..

>>137

You must not understand what's going on. If so, I feel sorry for your obvious and oblivious, absent minded eyes and mind.

They are trying to say, "I WILL MAKE A SITE FOR REAL DOLLARS! WE WILL BE A FORCE OF GOOD! HURHURHUR!"

The fact of the matter is that is the forum of 'advertising' in and of itself, that Reltair doesn't want on here. That, and "RIVAL GANG" advertisements.

I suggest you read a lot more and stop trying to be NICE to everyone who doesn't deserve it.

It might not seem like it. But anyone who uses the words "Who wants to make real dollars" is trying to make their own "DOLLARS".

You're new, so obviously you've not seen all that we've seen, yet, but I suggest you try to keep white knighting off of this site.

Sigh... Why me..

I already talked to this guy. That wasnt what he/she was saying at all. Maybe other members before him meant that, but not him. I suggested to him to make his own group. The fact that I had to suggest it to him meant that he wasnt advertising on this site.
Yes I'm new, but no, it doesn't make me oblivious.
And just because you have been around longer doesn't give them the right to act as if everyone new is an idiot, especially if you're going to try to go off on someone without knowing the full story.

I think that after I spoke with him, he understands now. But if he posts another thread again repeating the same thing, feel free to come back with whatever sarcastic "I told you so"s you need to help you sleep at night. This'll be the last time we speak until you either mature or post something that I feel like "white knighting" to.
Peace Out~

So let me get this straight, the fact that you initiated the idea of this person created their own group, means they arent being stupid and advertising all over the place like they shouldnt be? Please, oh please, inform me on how that makes any sense at all.

*facepalm* I suggested it to him afterwards. I'm saying if he continues, theeen he's advertising, being a jerkwad, or a troll.
Or all of the above.

>>144
Well what he/she said doesn't show what they meant. Plus if they don't do it again, good, but just because it's a 1 time thing doesn't make it NOT advertising.

Again. What they said, shouts 'advertising' to make their own dollars. This so happens to be BEFORE you spoke to them, obviously.

>>146 *nods* okay, see where ur comin from. Agreed.