I see posts like "Nationalize Dollars", "Meet up", and "Change the world". But the thing is, this is nothing like the anime. This is just an online COMMUNITY.

So let's say we actually met up, or nationalized Dollars. What's the point if there's no firm objective? If we had an actual goal, we might be able to do something. Take Anonymous for example; they HACK to launch rebellions against problematic governments and such.

What of Dollars? All these missions are great, spreading kindness and all but this isn't a big movement like Anonymous. Are we going to launch heroic deeds like spamming problematic sites and/or people?

Please, before you think about spreading Dollars as an "online gang", think about their purpose.

yeah ur right

The reason (I think) that someone here created this web is to transport the Dollars from the anime and into the real word. I mean, why name this site "Dollars" if we're not going to do the same thing. The Dollars is MORE THAN an online community. And we already have an objective, to make the world a better place. I know the objective is REALLY broad, but it is what it is.

Kuro said right. I think the same. Someones think that it's only na site to otaku or/and fans DRRR but there are some people who want to make world a better place. If you think it is only a site for fans anime and/or manga maybe you shouldn't be here. We have the same dream: make a world better. That's why Dollars exist.

Gonna take a stab and throw my 2 cents in if y'all don't mind. Personally, I think that everyone meeting up and going about things in an organized manner works great for the anime, but irl, it just doesn't work like that, as the lovely root of this thread said. I think it's up to us to individually try to brighten others' days and change the world on our own, such as by doing even the things we normally see as mundane, such as smiling like another lovely poster said (I'm sorry I don't recall your name, deary! ;-; )
Point: What works for the anime is fine, but irl, we're on our own and have each other for support online. We gotta do our part out there to make others' lives a little bit better in little ways we can :)

>>5 I agree, but doing things as a group isn't a bad thing. Just because something is on a show, doesn't mean you can't accomplish it on real life.

>>6 All true! I certainly ain't dissin the notion at all; I think it'd be more of an issue of actually finding Dollars in your area, cause I haven't seen any from even my state X'D Things get more cumbersome for those that can't travel, so meeting up would be difficult for many. It's a great idea in theory though, and if it managed to work out that'd be awesome! ^^

>>7 Make sub-groups. The sub-groups would discuss meetings concerning events on their area. This way it would be easier to carry out missions.

Mm good point - I keep overlooking the simplest of solutions XD Sorry for any possibly ruffled feathers cause of my poor wording - have a good one, darlin, and everyone readin this <3

Personnally this is just a forum based upon the dollars site from durarara.
You all cant just force to don a mask and go with it, there are a good amount if people that are not gonna have the same views as ye.
And there will be people who will say "Lets do this!" But later on gives up or disappear.
The only place that is true to its goal would be the sites and places that have loyal members, so far, i see very little loyal members here, those loyal, just want to organize the site and hang about.

It would be better to have sub groups, but even those die out as well.

>>11 I've been on many groups before and those did die, because everyone's schedule was really tight. Thus leading to inactivity, but if organize events in a way that MOST of the members of the sub-group can participate, then that would avoid inactivity and leading to the death of a group.

What I'm trying to say is that if we held meetings or gatherings, we try to schedule it to where most of the members are free. For example: a special non-working hollidays

>>3 I mean, why name this site "Dollars" if we're not going to do the same thing.

So just because they named the site "Dollars" means that we have to be something more than what the owner of the site created it for? Which is in the About page, by the way.

>>The Dollars is MORE THAN an online community.
>>Kuro said right. I think the same. Someones think that it's only na site to otaku or/and fans DRRR but there are some people who want to make world a better place. If you think it is only a site for fans anime and/or manga maybe you shouldn't be here. We have the same dream: make a world better. That's why Dollars exist.

Kind of sick of seeing this bullshit. Like...who decided that? After years of this site being a simple online community, now people are coming in telling us what it "truly" is? That we should leave because they want to use the site for something else, so we don't belong here!? Whatever. You'll find out in due time. As members who are okay with the site have stated multiple times, if you want something like the anime, you need to create YOUR OWN SITE, not try and make this one change. Additionally, I don't see how anything could possibly get done if you're all too damn lazy to make your own site. That should be like the first step. Look at this site: we have so many problems with organization here, it's constantly open to attack be spammers, the admin isn't an active part of the site (he's busy, I don't blame him), and if you take a look at the boards you will notice how the 90% are just for chatting, and the missions board is a SUB-BOARD. That right there should tell you how low of a priority missions are.

As Jack pointed out, you're not the first person who has thought to do this, and you won't be the last. It all falls apart in the end, because your numbers are too low, or there is no firm objective, or because the project just gets dropped.

>>And we already have an objective, to make the world a better place. I know the objective is REALLY broad, but it is what it is.
Yes, it's really broad. Which means that it's difficult to set step-by-step goals that are planned to reach this objective.

Chuey also had a point about Dollars being really spread out. I don't see how subgroups are going to help, because states are pretty large. It'd be hours by train or car to meet some of them, unless you're saying it's not required to meet any of them. If that's the case, what are you expecting 2-3 people to do that will "change the world?" Also, as I've pointed out before, this site being mostly for English speakers is very limiting; at most, we'd change 35% of the world and task our multilingual members for things to do in their area... Which means they're likely to have even less help from regulars on this site unless there is a Dollars website in their native language that they also are a member of. Then it gets even more complicated: what if the members on that site don't want to commit to our tasks? What if the members on this site don't want to commit to their tasks? Who would be the translator and negotiator?

All that being said. When I was new here I too wanted the Dollars to be a community like the anime. I kept getting called a "white knight" (which at the time I even liked), but I started to notice something. The anime was scripted; allowing just anyone to join will never create a sense of being united or having a like-mind. An open invitation like this site WILL have bad apples. Different minded people WILL have debates like this one and others of more controversy.
This site is filled to the brim with discord.

However, I noticed something else. I noticed how often this place has been called a sanctuary pr safe haven. How often suicidal people have thanked Dollars for their support, and how often members just want to make others laugh. I noticed this is a community to shelter the lonely, the weak, the broken-hearted, or the broken-spirited from whatever calamities are occurring around them.
To be honest, once I saw that...I saw that this site was a different version of the Dollars; it's just not the version you want.

Yes, I agree this would be interesting if we took the next step. But how will you go about it? Saying is easier than doing. But considering we’ve gathered quite the following, I do not doubt that many that join us are part of bigger operations on their own side of the woods. And that also brings up the predicament of people WITHIN these very “corrupted governments”, are they also part of the dollars? They could easily find out your intentions and shut you down from within this very organization. I wouldn’t risk yourself, but that does not mean you shouldn't get the word around. Provoke the people, and the rest is history.

the whole Idea of anonymous was to make society a better place, anonymous had a set goal, and while the dollars don't, the idea that this site was based on was from the show, and in the show, the dollars are meant to be a force for good, the idea is that we all here, are united through anonymity to do what's right, we're not on the same scale, or even level, but we can make individual communities better, starting with the easiest, the online community, the missions that entail "Giving out random things" "being kind" "Picking up trash" are all meant to go for the long term goal, bettering the world by making people kind to one another, and if the site grows even further, good. As a matter of fact, some people of significant stance are on this site often, however that's not something to take advantage of, the idea is to be together while still being apart, and if a small group within the group choose to go public, there isn't anything against it, the "rule" of the dollars if you will is to try to do what's right, not necessarily by doing the "necessary evil" but by being better people in general, If anonymous hadn't had a following, it would've fallen apart.

the anime itself is a great example of why having an online gang like the dollars is a bad idea. sure, there were some great members in the dollars, but lots of them went out on their own and ruined everything. not to mention that the universe in the anime is so different from the world we live in. i don't think we can even compare the possibility of something like this happening in our world to a world where there are headless people riding motorbikes and bartenders with super strength

lol corny your last sentence.

Would be better if this was situating with a country where you can meet each other wuite easily, like trains that are fast and widespread
*cough cough* japan.

>>20 Yes, it's nice to be a small island country.

The creator of this thread is right, though. There is plenty of spirit in the idea of a new Dollars organization; there is spirit, but there is no process, no means by which we may achieve our goals. The Dollars have and always will be a group dedicated to helping and supporting others, but with legitimacy comes skepticism, and with skepticism, doubt. If you are serious about the Dollars becoming a respectable, then help us to find a process! Help us to become the group we have the potential to be. Smiling and complimenting others is fine, but if we the Dollars want to truly help this world, we need to think bigger! This is not rhetoric, nor is this any sort of trick; I am asking you, the Dollars of the world to help me help this world. Help me to find our process...

Lets do Graffiti and hang banners everywhere and after a while the news will recognize it and bam we just got national but then we have to keep it up so i say we start a youtube where all dollars members can post videos of Dollars related info and the rest is history

>>23
Not really what most of us in Dollars are aiming for. This is not really a joke, things are serious when you do things like that. Then people will look at us as a gang even though that's not really were trying to be. We're just an organization, not some joke gang or whatever you see us Dollars as.

>>24 An organization that isn't organized /is/ a joke.

>>25 And neither is graffiti or general trespassing or destruction of property, which is what that would be. I haven't been on here long, but I agree with 折原 臨也 - we aren't a joke gang, we are an online organization that is aiming to do right things the right way. Don't go spreading rumors or suggestions that will get you -and the Dollars as a whole - on the wrong side of the law, because then it'll be just bad publicity. Which is NOT what we want

As per your questions the purpose of the dollars seems to be to allow its members o discuss various topics while creating a place to do this that is similar to the anime. It gives a place for people to create "missions" if they please or otherwise but one is not necessarily obliged to go about them. Anon might do various things like hack sites and the like but the dollars as a whole do not appear to have any overarching goal, its up to the individual. On that note one might wonder if what anon and what they are doing really makes much of a difference, i don't know about you but i have not seen any significant change in everyday life due to their actions but then again this seems to be the norm for quite a few groups and their hyped activities. Finally, as to the question if the dollars will be doing anything amazing and heroic, something "big" as you might say, unlikely, nothing you'll see on the front page of the new york times or on CNN although i suppose its possible. This place is what it is, a chat room based on an anime, and the thing is that life is quite different then anime, for better or for worse.

I totally get what you're saying OP, but the thing is, Anonymous is very different sort of group. They may just be regular people like us, but whereas our unifying feature is Durarara, theirs is a love of anarchic freedom. Everything they do is largely motivated by one of two objectives: to protect freedom, or to remind everyone that no one can control them.

Pop on over to 4chan to really get an idea of what they're about. Remember to lurk moar, posting without knowing what you're doing really isn't good for anyone.

The culture of Anonymous is also wildly different from our own. While we are just as capable of doing what they do, we aren't half as willing. Being vindictive, aggressive, and responding to even the slightest of affronts with maximum force is what Anonymous does. It isn't what we do. And it isn't what our culture is conducive to.

I would actually argue against national- or globalizing the Dollars and actually suggest localizing it. We could set up boards for local chapters to organize. Dallas, Texas Dollar; London, England Dollars; Munich, Germany Dollars. We're all over the world but organizing global events is impractical and local events borderline impossible. It worked so well in the show because it was concentrated on one small area. I think that's how WE would work best too: small, independent cells.

>>28 You sound like you have differing opinion than OP, but you realize you and OP are saying the same thing about the difference between Dollars and Anonymous, right?

Why can't it be both? There's no reason why The Dollars can't be a site that's a haven for its members to escape reality and enjoy each other's company, as well as a site for those who want to do small acts to make the world a better place gather.

There is literally NO reason we cannot do both, so why don't we just have the people who like to do missions carry on with their doings in the missions board and have those who like to hang around and chat do their thing? There is no issue or overhanging debate that needs to be discussed, it's a simple matter of people knowing what their objective is and performing it without criticizing others. And for those who want to criticize you? let them. Don't respond or create drama.

Everyone needs to stop contributing to this negative idea that we can't have this organization be multiple things. Of course it's not going to be the same as the anime, but The Dollars can be a positive idiosyncratic organization in both the anime and real life.

In conclusion, for those who want to help do positive things to make the world a better place, allow them! I don't see what problem some of you have with that. You're literally rebelling against the thought of doing something positive for the world. So what if it's not 100% effective? no organizations are.

And for those who want to talk and help people through the site, continue with your mission.

We're all here for a good reason, our reasons are just different. So smile and do your very best to be what you want to be.

~Keimottekurra

>>1 I've seen what you're talking about and totally understand where you are coming from, but in the end is it not up to everyone to decide on their own if they want to join up and help people regardless? I think it's just that we do need to understand it's not the same as anime. We are just a community. but if we decide to join up and help a cause we are coincidentally in the same area some on is help/charity (whichever) this is and will be a great place for everyone to start and plan their help or charity or even donations.

>>30 IT'S ALREADY BOTH.

What the complaints are about is people telling EVERYONE to contribute to missions or be "a more serious member".

YES, they can do their missions if they want to, but when they want to alter the site or tell members to leave if they don't want to be the Dollars in the anime, that's stupid, right? That's why I've been telling some of them that they cant mold this site into what they want. If they want a site that isn't about socializing LIKE THIS ONE IS ALL ABOUT, then they need to make THEIR OWN SITE.

Jesus, did you even read >>3 or >>4 or >>14? Or any other comment on here? We're not against "solving the world's problems". Who the hell ever said that?

>>31 sorry I mean , "coincidentally in the same area as some one to help with" * .

>>5 bofore saying that something doesn't work in real life, TRY IT! In national zone it works for me. I had some meet up with other dollars of my country on conventions or just to meet eath other to eat and talk. This year we are also organizing missions to do in group on large conventions. that's not impossibile. You just need to find members who think we are dollars to make this world a better place,not just otaku DRRR! fans.

>>14 Perhaps to solve the organization issue we should have some sort of time and date to have a democratic meeting with the Admin to decide HOW to make the Dollars work like a united front.

>>30 I agree with you, Keimottekurra

>>35 But most regular members already know how this goes. This discussion has been had over and over and regulars tried to encourage it and get people to organize themselves and create a plan TO REACH this "make the world a better place" objective. Hell, I'm pretty sure this was how the missions board was created TO BEGIN WITH.

But no one ever puts their money where their mouth is. No body actually puts time and effort CONSISTENTLY. No one ever does it for a long period of time.

As many have pointed out, it's because this site is mainly for socializing, not "changing the world". So NOW people are saying that we need to change THE SITE.

We already have a place for missions and for socializing. It's not the entire site's fault that you dont like the "smile" missions or that you dont like the petition missions or the "site activity" missions where by playing games you can fund a charity. It's not the site's fault that you want something more, but you have no idea what the fuck that is. Just saying you want the site to be like the anime isnt enough.
And it's unrealistic.
Not saying "unrealistic" like "it's impossible for an organization to make a difference"; I mean "unrealistic" like it's an ANIMATED SHOW, so OF COURSE it's unrealistic.

well

Not everyone wants the site to change. I personally think that all we need is a better countries organization. It is more simple to do things in group if rom the same regions. Of course only those who want to. It can be done by using more the country goard and country chat,but also by creating (if not already done) state groups on socials.

>>39 Organizing the country board....... I think if we.... No, that wouldn't work... We have a guide there but people Just. Don't. Read.

It was suggested last time about having the site branch out, so that State dollars/Country Dollars would all be speaking to the ppl in their area, but it was shot down because... Well, not only would that take the creation of different websites FOR EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY AND STATE, but also because our regulars are just not that large in number for something like that. Like, seriously, I've only spoken with one other person from Georgia.

We would need the admin to create a process where you click on the board and you are then ASKED "Which country/state/city are you from".

You think or you tried? Because it is ot that difficult to organize countires on social (if it's that difficult to do it on this site). By doing it I fount about 300-400 dollars only from Italy and 50 active member willing to do missions and help. It's not like one single person has to admin all the countries sites,but groups from single countries do it by themselves. Like we are already have our chat and a site in development ,after we created group in socials like g+,facebook and tumblr page,blog and stuff. You just need people from your country who have time and the possibility to moderate it.

>>41 I wasnt clear. We did TRY to organize that board, I was trying to come up with an idea we havent tried before, but we have a guide there, people just have to bump it up (constantly).

>>300-400 dollars only from Italy
did you even look at the dates on those? Or how many people commented more than once in the same thread? That number is nowhere near 300.

>>It's not like one single person has to admin all the countries sites,but groups from single countries do it by themselves.

Right. I'm saying for some regions THAT ISNT POSSIBLE. Read what I said again. I only met one active member (emphasis on the word ACTIVE) here from Georgia. And that was 2 years ago.

>>Like we are already have our chat and a site in development ,after we created group in socials like g+,facebook and tumblr page,blog and stuff. You just need people from your country who have time and the possibility to moderate it.

and do you know of anyone willing to put in the time and work to do this? And if you say yourself, then you best be ready to prove it.

>>41 I am not implying that you are not, but.. I would say give it time, Dollars is still growing anonymous. Considering the way the community is looked after by our site admin/mod(s) so far we have a "countries" section.

with time and proper communication, manners/hospitality and humbleness. people will connect with what they want to do or start a helpful event (mission) and the one(s) located around the individuals starting or beginning it.
However I would advise not throwing the word dollars around like a gang represent.

Maybe name the event something like "Dollars" or something so people understand you are only trying to help/support your community. And remain anonymous; not asking/telling others to join. you guys know how it is :) .

Figures

We realy can do smile on face of peoples with good intentions of dôme of missions. We just have to do the missions that can help some of peoples!