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Thoughts on True Peace (55)

1 Name: Sound55 : 2015-02-12 10:22 ID:3pYsPeBI [Del]

How do you believe true peace can be accomplished? Do you think that it will last and how do you think life would be like? Less interesting or more?

2 Name: Chrome : 2015-02-12 10:25 ID:Vk5BZaku [Del]

Easy, kill everyone. Also it would be infinitely more boring, conflict is literally what makes life interesting (imagine DRRR except everything went smoothly for everyone(so basically if Izaya just butted out))

3 Name: Tooru : 2015-02-12 11:13 ID:0o7N9goh [Del]

It's not possible 'cos everytime there'd be at least 1 person who would ruin it, Unless we all do only right things and avoid conflicts there won't be no real peace.

4 Name: Windy : 2015-02-12 13:22 ID:PJUD+2qs [Del]

True peace will happen when Humans no longer have free will or desire.

5 Name: Daydream : 2015-02-12 13:48 ID:+2hBMbGj [Del]

It is not possible to change everyone into a saint, but if you think it is worth the journey, I think you will be able to find peace for yourself. That is the only place where true peace exists anyway.
It does not have to be boring tho, there are plenty of peaceful interesting things!

6 Name: Shadeslayer914 : 2015-02-12 14:37 ID:hHqCHhfn [Del]

WAR IS PEACE

7 Name: Soul-san : 2015-02-12 14:38 ID:p07pH/dB [Del]

True peace is never accomplished as long as the human race roams around the Earth.

8 Name: Vicki-san : 2015-02-12 15:08 ID:aMGYKgPw [Del]

I don't think true peace will ever happen. At least not for a long time. Humans in general, by nature, are greedy, selfish beings. But there are those who aren't. My opinion is that life wouldn't be half as interesting, if there was true peace.

9 Name: Keiichi : 2015-02-12 15:12 ID:1/+456oY [Del]

Peace will only be achieved when every human inhabitant of earth is in peace within themselves, It can happen or it cannot. It's enterely up to us and everyone can work on it, but some people say that is not that easy to achieve inner peace...

10 Name: Hyukki : 2015-02-12 16:23 ID:eaXiiSN7 [Del]

Impossible.

“In this world, whenever there is light, there are also shadows. As long as the concept of winners exist, there must also be losers. The selfish desire of wanting to maintain peace causes wars and hatred is born to protect love.”
-Uchiha Madara ;)

11 Name: Keiichi : 2015-02-13 09:23 ID:u97YBHmI [Del]

Maybe Peace is not what one things, or what propaganda says.. like @Hyukki Highligthed. Maybe it's about equilibrium of the forces, good and bad. Is there peace between a lion and it's pray?

12 Name: Akane : 2015-02-14 17:34 ID:1rI13vQp [Del]

HAHAHA! there is no such thing as "true peace".

13 Name: aRe : 2015-02-14 17:55 ID:tWz9fAcU [Del]

Sadly, human nature will never allow true peace. We will always be selfish or angry, or whatever, and it will cause struggle, strife, and all sorts of crap.

14 Name: Kurisu : 2015-02-14 20:18 ID:WLPM4Ylu [Del]

aRe, agreed!

15 Name: Anonymous : 2015-02-17 09:18 ID:FpGu20sT [Del]

There won't ever be true peace, but we're getting closer and closer in some parts of the world. I mean getting robbed is not nearly as common an occurance in the first world as it was even 100 years ago, and it's only getting better in most places. That said, it's coming at the cost of a lot of personal freedoms, and that safety isn't worldwide and can only exist currently due to the divide between the first and third worlds.
If we ever have such an obscene amount of resources that everyone can live like the super rich then it would be possible, but then we get to the question of "Do you want a peaceful life at the cost of being watched all the time".

It's an interesting question, and the focus of a huge amount of dystopian literature

16 Name: KyleZeRo : 2015-02-17 09:27 ID:sPo4CMsb [Del]

Peace is only a dream that people wish could happen. It's a waste of time even thinking about. The world we live in has only one thing...War...Chaos...and Power. No hope. No Peace. No Freedom.

17 Name: Masokida : 2015-02-17 09:46 ID:3xTyfGw3 [Del]

I feel that true peace can be achieved. If the world can agree to come together to go against one conflict, then we can finally coexist with each other. The conflict I want to put emphasis on a common enemy. If there was suddenly a person or group of people who want to control the world, then world nations would come together to fight against that group/person. Now from there, the real key is the person/group not actually wanting world domination, but world peace and they know to do that is to have a common enemy.

18 Name: Anonymous : 2015-02-17 10:10 ID:/kEF8uqt [Del]

@Masokida
That's effectively what happened at the end of Code Geass.
The problem is that by there being an enemy threatening enough for mankind to unite against peace is inherently gone.

19 Name: Anonymous : 2015-02-17 10:14 ID:ha8GFUzR [Del]

true peace is something that is near impossible sadly. as long as humans see a difference in each other there will be a feeling of superiority of one over the other. that will lead to unfair treatment and ultimately violence. there are 2 ways that there could be true peace. the first is if everyone was the same; the same religion, color, country, political views, ect...
the second is if everyone would be accepting and have patience. if everyone could accept another's religion, race, and color and have the patience for the people who do not accept their own.

20 Name: Anonymous : 2015-02-17 11:18 ID:5HMh0EJ5 [Del]

The thing about true peace is that it is impossible.
It's just a fantasy that people like to have. The only way to achieve true peace is if every human being is able to accept other people and if no humans were greedy, and that's obviously impossible. The fact that the world's population is not helping our situation either. The increasing population is also making our total amount of resources decrease, which will either result in everyone working together (which seems unlikely), or it will end in a war.

True peace just isn't possible in our current time. Perhaps one day, but I don't think that's going to be within our lifetime. Maybe not at all during any humans lifetime. It may never happen to any human, but if it did happen, I don't think it would last. Eventually, someone would want more power.

21 Name: Anonymous : 2015-02-17 11:31 ID:fLBCqwS0 [Del]

No, true peace is never going to happen at least not until some sort of apocalypse happens to bring everyone together as one. We are more pre occupied with destroying each other and everything vs loving one another and that is how it always has been even in times of peace we manage to choose sides and get involved in fights all over again. The entire world is just waiting for an excuse to kill off one another it seems but who knows my dreary world is one that is shaped solely by my beliefs not anyone elses.

22 Name: Silverblue : 2015-02-17 12:28 ID:dK1RtssV [Del]

True peace is different from every individual point of view.
I don't feel that in this life time any sort of 'peace' between the worlds nations will happen. its human nature to hate other and want what others have, it would take something terrible such as another great war or the arrival of a new threat from another world to unite the people, to put aside are differences and stand together. But even after that we would go back to hating each other. It sucks but the world isn't all sugar and rainbows.

23 Name: Nova : 2015-02-17 13:17 ID:VO07V3TS [Del]

More educated people, more mixed societies and mental health.

24 Name: Peter : 2015-02-17 13:28 ID:zGP2SnlX [Del]

Silverblue, I disagree with your opinion that its human nature to hate others. Rather I believe that humans learn to hate and they can be taught to love, because love comes more naturally to the human heart. -Mandela: Long Walk to Freedom.

We can make the world a better place by educating more people and having more mixed societies, as Nova mentioned.

25 Name: Chibster : 2015-02-17 16:52 ID:v15gg4uJ [Del]

Actually humans are born with the emotion to feel hate. It is in our genes, just as the fact that we cannot live alone for ever without a companion (and no it doesn't have to be a human). No one is pure. And I'm sure everyone at least one time had such an emotion for a certain living
being.
Anyway, like others said it is probably not gonna happen in this life time, because of all the things that are happening in the real world. Personally i honestly don't care what happens because I really dislike humans. But I believe they have the potential and the ability to change everything. Its just that most of them are blinded with other things such as money. If all people actually used their brains and started talking to each other, we wouldn't have all the problems that are happening right now.

26 Name: Sera Yuzuki !Iejy6MUMys : 2015-02-17 17:06 ID:viD3liRg [Del]

I have mixed thoughts on this topic but ultimately,true peace iz not a real thing.I understand how I sound but peace is something you have to obtain before you can undestand.

27 Name: 甘い悪夢 : 2015-02-17 17:09 ID:xuiBxRhm [Del]

I think it may be for the best that true peace is not achieved. It is through hardship, poverty and survival etc. that we have the necessity to adapt and become intelligent, and capable of feeling the many emotions, including love and hate, that we have now.

28 Name: 甘い悪夢 : 2015-02-17 17:10 ID:xuiBxRhm [Del]

But of course, peace is still important. I'd much prefer peace over war.

29 Name: Soth' : 2015-02-17 17:18 ID:tGCOT7I9 [Del]

I think that we can a have "true peace" only by getting supervised by something that is not human.
Like in the anime "psycho-pass".

30 Name: Cords !3q.RK/m1Rc : 2015-02-17 17:51 ID:w49gkKDU [Del]

True peace? I really think it might be possible but it wont last because there will always be something that will not feel like such as in the book "The Giver"

31 Name: kaneki : 2015-02-17 17:57 ID:uxeQfGHf [Del]

hola soy de chile

32 Name: Watanabe : 2015-02-17 18:08 ID:nOXX05rS [Del]

Well, i think that "true peace" is really far from humanity... Violence (verbal and physical) come from different opinions that people have. The day that we will have true peace will be the day that everyone will think equally...And of course life will be empty and with no progress(if people don't have different "points of view", there will be no discoveries).

33 Name: Pharos : 2015-02-17 18:14 ID:qqUKsrPv [Del]

I agree with Watanabe, "true peace" is entirely dependent on who you're asking. Sure we can agree on some things, but it's impossible for absolutely everyone to universally agree on everything that is deemed "peaceful" which is where conflict arises. I mean, one person's heaven can be seen as another person's hell (and vice-versa), so it's not surprising to me that "world peace" hasn't been attained yet.

34 Name: Torao : 2015-02-17 18:18 ID:ihGdr8ih [Del]

Okay, so let's pretend we can actually agree on the definition of "true peace" for a moment. Let's say... A world without wars. Sounds universal enough.
Let me say that. Not going to happen. Humans love to argue. Humans love to feel better than others. Humans, deep inside, love to belittle those around them. Not everyone, of course not. But there will always be those who will strike up conflict, for power, for money, for ideals, for anything really, even if just because.
Human nature makes it impossible for true, everlasting peace to ever exist.

35 Name: NoFuture : 2015-02-17 18:23 ID:j6/PCKq9 [Del]

I think true peace will never happen because people would have to have restrictions and would have to have certain rights taken away, such as freedom of speech or freedom of choice, and because people like having these freedoms, they wouldn't like having them taken away. They would fight for them back which will, ironically, cause peace to disappear. If these freedoms are kept then people will say whatever is on their mind and that could lead to rude comments, rumors, people will have different opinions, and things like that. When all these things start to spread, people will get angered and eventually, will start fighting with each other. That also eliminates the idea of "true peace." The only type of peace anyone could possibly achieve is peace of mind or self.

36 Name: Pharos : 2015-02-17 18:32 ID:qqUKsrPv [Del]

I'd like to believe that humans are inherently good, but to be honest I believe more in the idea that children are inherently neutral and are molded by the community they live in and the circumstances they grow up with. There are also people that are genuinely power-hungry, that are genuinely awful and, like Torao was saying, love to argue and feel better than others. NoFuture said it too-humans love freedom but there are some who would see "world peace" as destruction of their freedom. Ironically. Which goes back to my original point-too many people disagree on what "true peace" is, which is why it hasn't been achieved yet.

37 Name: Night : 2015-02-19 14:31 ID:8ImvF9Ew [Del]

humans cant achive true peace but in my opinon if you want to achive it, it would be to distant your self away from the world and all of its troubles. The world cant handle true peace, its to great for it.

38 Name: Noonimy !dB/kTjoiFw : 2015-02-19 19:00 ID:BXaUi2Gv [Del]

True peace can never happen, it is merely a vague dream.

39 Name: Luka : 2015-02-19 19:03 ID:c1X07RS4 [Del]

Peace is a perception,
But a goal that humankind has still yet to embrace,
It will happen,
But mostlikely not in our lifetimes...

40 Name: Akane : 2015-02-19 19:27 ID:1rI13vQp [Del]

None of us cant gurantee that "true peace" will happen. i have to agree with Noonimy on the fact that "true peace" is just a vague dream. Many of us want true peace to happen but it is just a dream that can never be reached.

41 Name: TrustMe : 2015-02-19 21:44 ID:/lZJTM9x [Del]

I think true peace is still a good goal to strive for, even if it isn't possible. We can at least make the world a little more loving and a little less hurtful, even if we can't end all war.

I also think that a world of true peace would be MORE interesting than our current world. We would have more time to focus on what really matters. Plus more people would survive and become great artist, inventors, and thinkers!

42 Name: Tsubasa : 2015-02-20 12:27 ID:ip+ycrfL [Del]

Peace will be accomplished, one way or another. It is the fact that it can never last for eternity that makes people feel disbelief towards it. It is always a goal to strive for, and we will never truly achieve it if we do not believe in the possibility being there, no matter how small it is.

43 Name: Kuhaku !oKcmz9f2Fc : 2015-02-20 14:19 ID:krLunSiV [Del]

True peace can't exist while there are people that die because they have no healthcare or food.

44 Name: Akane : 2015-02-20 14:50 ID:1rI13vQp [Del]

>>42 what if there are people who dont want peace? what then?

45 Name: the actor : 2015-02-20 16:29 ID:9ySZw+qX [Del]

I do not think that true peace for everyone is actually possible, not as long as people remain human, if all good things must end, then Im guessing that true peace will happen to people here and there, but eternal true peace will not and can not actually happen.

46 Name: HeartbeatKnight : 2015-03-29 00:12 ID:xMnj2ks0 [Del]

Let go of separation. (there's a voice in my heart)

47 Name: ssftiv7105 : 2015-03-29 04:33 ID:D+oEGuYK [Del]

when all of us decided to work together without any hidden agenda

48 Name: 勇気 : 2015-03-29 05:25 ID:PtDooHYG [Del]

It's possible. True peace will happen when people will start following life principles, when they will understand meditation and start loving themselves more, when they will let go of the ego and useless religions. From each religion there's stuff we can learn, sure, but blindly believing in something with no proof will just cause groups, which will cause conflicts, which, in the end, leads to war. If each individual was taught to have a free mind and stop judging from childhood, then true peace will be just happen, without us even noticing.
Too bad the ego is soooo important.*SARCASTIC* *SARCASTIC* *SARCASTIC*

49 Name: FellbeatKnight : 2015-05-12 17:58 ID:qKou1H/S [Del]

>>46 Yeah bro.

50 Name: kanra : 2015-05-12 18:33 ID:hFBaUtxV [Del]

True peace, is a rare commodity. which, yes many would love to attain, yet ones peace is anothers hell; from spider to fly;worm to bird. It all depends on ones perspective. If we want peace one must attain it individually or somehow in a group, yet we would need a no class system based on looks, jobs and any other discriminating factor possible to arise aka impossible. along with wealth evenly distributed and controlled which no one wants that. what one wants one will attempt to attain or sulk for not having, we can only strive as humans to try and attain the unattainable.

51 Name: Hoarse : 2015-06-26 23:03 ID:qKou1H/S [Del]

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52 Name: Re;daction !5vlQ5GSMew : 2015-06-27 15:49 ID:+v2Qlydy [Del]

>>48 Because I have, in your wording, a free mind I vehemently disagree with you so much I'm not even sure where to begin. Disagreements lead to identifying with people who agree with you over those who don't, which leads, again, to use your wording, groups, which leads, from time to time, to conflict.

The ego is VERY important. Psychologically speaking, without the ego you have only primal urges & principled rules (id & superego). A creature without an ego would make ZERO choices in life except "To obey or ignore the rules?" which I'm unable to fathom would be a good idea in any way.

If you mean in a more general sense, virtually ALL of the wonders of the world & most of the greatest accomplishments of history have been due to selfishness at some level. People landed on the moon because America selfishly, to place itself & its ideals above others & theirs, expended a tremendous sum to one-up the rest of the world.

Do you know what the first man made object in space was? An artillery shell from WWII.

Do you know what the missile technology which made the space program remotely feasible was developed for? Do you know what the tech in a nuclear reactor was developed for? That all cost a hell of a lot of money. In a peaceful world, it would've been spent on infrastructure & agriculture, & people would've been a hell of a lot better fed & clothed & washed. But nothing from the pyramids of Giza to the Apollo program to the Basilica of St. Peter would have a place in that budget. Therefore, I wholeheartedly reject it.

& regarding religion, do you seriously believe people would agree MORE if everyone went about it Cicero-style & nothing was standardized, organized or presided over? There're 2.2 billion people in the world who, nominally, believe the same book, & Christians have found 43,000 different ways to believe in ONE thing. Though it would never happen, IF hypothetically 7.2 billion people each believed whatever they found most believable, most logical or most appealing (because people believe the religions for every one & every combination of those reasons) how many disagreements do you think there'd be? How many groupings? How many conflicts, how many absolutely incompatible viewpoints?

To summarize, True Peace is about the most absurd thing I'm able to think of, & practically impossible.

53 Name: Free : 2015-06-28 07:56 ID:hBHSxXaj [Del]

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54 Name: HeartBeatKnight : 2016-02-13 22:28 ID:qKou1H/S [Del]

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55 Name: KuroNegati : 2016-02-14 09:49 ID:qGAjD2VV [Del]

People plz stop bumping this thread and the duplicate both. It's annoying.