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Cigarettes and Drugs (35)

1 Name: Captain Pilot : 2014-10-27 10:22 ID:dZU6i2o7 [Del]

Guys I always see post in Facebook that Drugs(marijuana, etc.) is much better than cigarettes. I think marijuana is more harmful than cigarettes because it is being said that using drugs will destroy your brain cell which cause people go crazy. And here in the place where I live there are many people killing each other because of using drugs.. So why would people say that cigarettes is more harmful than drugs??

2 Name: Chronos !XieTj415EY : 2014-10-27 10:29 ID:BP1jGZVi [Del]

Cigarettes are more 'addictive' than some drugs.
Which drugs are more harmful is up for debate, but all drugs are harmful when abused, period.

The issue with marijuana currently is legality. People will compare marijuana with cigarettes and alcohol because the latter two are legal... and just as harmful or more harmful.

3 Name: Mana : 2014-10-27 10:30 ID:2gh/EDs0 [Del]

Hey, people kill over ciggs too but people like to keep quiet about that. Anyway, ciggs have a more physical effect when some other drugs have a mental one. Either way, people will kill for them because the brain thinks that you need it to survive, only ciggs are legal and easy to get so crime over them isn't common.

4 Name: Crimson Prince : 2014-10-27 11:00 ID:mP0SFS85 [Del]

All depends on the drug. Marijuana is a topic that is very big right now and people say that its worse then Cigarettes. This is double sided because both have better features then the other while personally i find cigarettes to be worse because they are move addictive and have more carcinogens then marijuana. Marijuana still causes cancer because of the smoke inhalation and kills your lungs. It also causes one to stagger and hallucinate a little.

5 Name: Enigma : 2014-10-27 11:26 ID:WgiB30Ty [Del]

Can I just say that ALL drugs and abusive substances are harmful to our bodies, both a chemically and biologically!

>>4 Smoke inhalation doesn't cause hallucinations.

6 Name: Kiri : 2014-10-27 12:18 ID:AmTlkU6M [Del]

Cigarette smoking actually hurts the second hand smokers more than the smoker thim/herself. Not saying that drugs users don't hurt the people around them but that might be a basis. Just saying.

I don't agree, though. Drugs have many more side effects and although smoking is a leading cause of death, it seems far less addicting than drugs. Smoking does not cause hallucinations or increased aggressiveness, or other effects that drugs have.

7 Name: BarabiSama !lmBitchbiw : 2014-10-27 13:09 ID:Kir0HaS5 [Del]

>>6 Not at all. No, a small portion of the second hand smoke isn't filtered, but it's not something you're going to breathe in. The only way for second hand smoke to be worse is if everyone's got their faces to it and are purposely breathing it all in. Smoking is letting a concentrated amount going straight into your lungs, but the rest of the smoke dissipates almost immediately. The likelihood of anyone accidentally being affected by someone's second hand smoke is very low.

Meanwhile, with marijuana, the smoke does not dissipate as fast. It stays in the air for a lot longer and is a great deal thicker, especially since most casual pot users don't filter it properly. This is why there are so many stories where small children and animals are getting high after going in a room where their siblings or parents were smoking.

Smoking also doesn't affect the state of your mind. It can calm your nerves down, but it has no drastic "high" effect. This means that you can work and take care of your responsibilities even if chain smoking. Thus, it doesn't affect the people around you very much. Pot (and other drugs_ have a much more drastic effect on the state of your mind and thus affects the people around you much worse.

8 Name: Inuhakka !inb4CaTsQw : 2014-10-27 13:29 ID:yxo8zJHe [Del]

>>7 >the rest of the smoke dissipates almost immediately
Why is this? I can still smell it, but it has dissipated?

>Pot (and other drugs_ have a much more drastic effect on the state of your mind
Isn't this only true if you make it so? You can drink alcohol and not be drunk.

>>6 Yes, it is very harmful. It contains more than double to concentration of carcinogens than the filtered smoke that enters the smoker's lungs. However, it is unlikely you are going to inhale enough volume of smoke to match what will happen to the smoker's lungs. If you live with a smoker in a house and they smoke inside, that is different and you will likely start to see some closer comparison.

>it seems far less addicting than drugs
Tell that to all my 17 year old coworkers who went from smoking a couple joints a month to a pack a day of cigarettes when they started those. You become dependent on cigarettes to relieve stress in a more intense way than pot.

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10 Name: archadmiral!ISvQ2vSsZc : 2014-10-27 13:36 ID:9hOe9W1c [Del]

On a side note i just passed by 5 8 year olds, smoking cigarettes while playing pool...2 of those 5 were also drinking( supervised by a chubby heaven-can-give-a-damn 40 something year old)... and later on at 7-11 convenience store, few meters away, a 12 year old smoking. . . GOOD 'ol Philippines.

11 Name: Chronos !XieTj415EY : 2014-10-27 13:39 ID:BP1jGZVi [Del]

>>9
Wow, I think I would get depressed seeing that...

12 Name: Bahn : 2014-10-27 13:57 ID:JTLQnCJ6 [Del]

Cigarettes may be more dangerous only because its legal. People don't have to worry about cops or finding a dealer to get cigarettes so its easy to use so many of them which will hinder you. I have a friend who smokes marijuana and he's perfectly fine truth is some drugs aren't as dangerous as media makes it sound like. The real reason why everybody says this about drugs or that about cigarettes is because you only ever hear about those who intake a lot of the substances. People who don't know how to control themselves are the real danger not the drugs. Simply put some people are idiots.

13 Name: Kiri : 2014-10-27 14:19 ID:4KarHE3A [Del]

>>10
So darn disturbing . . . I'm 17 and I haven't even touched a cigarette. Sucks since everyone around me is smoking all the damn time. Also not sure if you are saying that 7-11 sells cigs to minors, but I went to one before with a friend to buy one cause she smokes. They didn't ask for an id. Not sure if she just looks more mature than other 18 year olds, but the teenage smoking is becoming a thing mainly cause people just assume that anyone going in and buying a smoke is over 18.
>>7 >>8
Oh that makes sense heheh.

14 Name: Anti-Hero : 2014-10-27 14:22 ID:RRrwaemw [Del]

In fact, marijuana oil can cure cancer. And it's much less harmful for your lungs etc., than cigarettes. Of course it can be harmful, but it's matter of the dose. Also, alcohol is more harmful for your organism, than, for example, LSD. And it's worth to say, that there is no way, to become physically addicted to those two drugs.
So IMO, if i had to choose, which stimulant my kids should use: alcohol and ciggs, or marijuana or LSD, I'd choose the second option.

15 Name: BarabiSama !lmBitchbiw : 2014-10-27 22:12 ID:Kir0HaS5 [Del]

>>8 "Why is this? I can still smell it, but it has dissipated?" Cigarettes just have a strong odor that travels (maybe because of all the particles in the nicotine?). You can smell a cigarette three apartments away in a shared building. Not through the vents, no, but just through the walls. It seeps into everything. Clothes smell like it. Hair smells like it. Floors smell like it. It's terrible, but that's just how it goes. However, no studies have been able to show that the odor of it has the same effects of the initial second hand smoke.

Quick note - smoking indoors without ventilation can keep it from properly dissipating in the initial room. If you smoke in an area that isn't ventilated, there's nowhere for it to go even if it dissipates, which will concentrate the second hand smoke and can cause stronger issues. Those people two apartments away won't deal with the SHS, but anyone who walks into that room will, which is why I'm not against them banning smoking indoors at public places. Of course, cigarettes don't let out as much smoke as joints in the first place, but neither should be smoked in an unventilated room.

"Isn't this only true if you make it so? You can drink alcohol and not be drunk." Absolutely. Everything in moderation. But what's the point of smoking pot without getting high? People don't smoke just a little tiny whiff of pot for the flavor, the same way many people don't drink alcohol just to quench their thirst. The difference is that smoking without moderation has the same effects as smoking with it. You won't get high, drunk, etc even if you're smoking 10 packs a day, meanwhile drinking or smoking just a little over your minute affects your sobriety :o

16 Name: BarabiSama !lmBitchbiw : 2014-10-27 22:14 ID:Kir0HaS5 [Del]

limit* not minute lol

17 Name: Izaya : 2014-10-27 23:40 ID:jHp+dbW8 [Del]

It seems my bueatieful human have gone over board hehe muhahahahahaha

18 Name: Stalker : 2014-10-28 00:26 ID:WdsxwG+C [Del]

because... I dont know.. >,<

19 Name: Armada : 2014-10-28 00:36 ID:6UExiBP4 [Del]

People have killed for tobacco and alcohol addictions. Happens pretty frequently in the homeless population around here. Only reason it doesn't happen more is that they are so widely available.

Marijuana is less addictive than alcohol or tobacco. The THC enriched kind maybe is more? Who knows.

All addictive drugs do horrible things to your brain. Even sugar does it to a certain extent.

20 Name: Anonymous : 2014-10-28 04:50 ID:+x7Y5gNm [Del]

>>14 my nigga

Smoke weed, don't smoke cigs.
Shit is awful and you will eventually "need" it.
If not physically you will develop a mental crutch.
Smoking cigs is the worst choice I ever made, pretty sure.

21 Name: Orizaya : 2014-10-28 05:29 ID:eWA9bzG4 [Del]

Cigarettes
and Drugs
is same for me
They are bad :/

22 Name: Torus : 2014-10-28 08:00 ID:c9Cv9KE9 [Del]

Psychodelics like psylocae mushrooms, lsd and dmt can lead to very positive experiences and are not addictive. It's our current social system that labels psychoactive drugs as bad abd promotes alchohol and tobacco, wich are really really bad for you.
Tobbaco smoking would be healthy if they did't change the plant over the years and every cigarette is sprayed with over 500chemicals. Google indian tobacco. Weed isn't bad if you use it moderatly. The best way to consume weed is thc oil (rick simpson oil- google it), it's really healthy, doesn't do damage to the lungs and can even cure many illnesses. Do your research if you don't believe me. cannabis was made illegal because it could do damage to the oil and pharmaceutical industry.

23 Name: Anonymous : 2014-10-28 10:24 ID:tdkAZVyl [Del]

>>22 and hemp could of fucked paper, pretty sure that's real.
Props for being a boss, mang.

24 Name: Ceelty : 2014-10-28 10:56 ID:EFwtiJlR [Del]

Hello xD
Although both are bad, all prove

25 Name: Izaya : 2014-10-28 11:34 ID:7Tw0c7nC [Del]

Personaly my bueatieful humans drugs r bad hehe but sometimes good wen used for chaos muhahahahahaha

26 Name: Sekai : 2014-10-28 22:02 ID:d+Gba4xQ [Del]

Nah heroine is di best

27 Name: Takumi !C7S15Bwr.E : 2014-10-28 22:24 ID:ZPREYTTC [Del]

Actually marijuana has been proven scientifically better than cigarettes and used for recreational uses.

28 Name: Ikebukuro : 2014-10-28 22:25 ID:0k/69hr4 [Del]

all of them are drugs.. don't do drugs

29 Name: Takumi !C7S15Bwr.E : 2014-10-28 22:34 ID:ZPREYTTC [Del]

Actually drugs are used everyday en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreational_drug_use if you look at common drugs you'll see that Caffeine and theobromine are in coffee and tea plus cocoa so does that automatically make those drugs bad because marijuana is said to be a 'bad' drug for people.

30 Name: Takumi !C7S15Bwr.E : 2014-10-28 22:40 ID:ZPREYTTC [Del]

<<28 it's reacreational use meaning that it doesn't harm the person that's using it and actually improving their health or mental health I should say.

31 Name: Izaya : 2014-10-28 22:43 ID:dAtfG0yb [Del]

нда...

32 Name: Mi-san~ : 2014-10-29 03:29 ID:YhWeEqGk [Del]

Drugs and cigarettes is harmful, but who stayed in?....

33 Name: BarabiSama !lmBitchbiw : 2014-11-10 14:44 ID:Kir0HaS5 [Del]

>>22 Psychedelics can lead to "positive experiences," but such has to be in the right circumstances. There have been quite a few deaths related to them not because of overdoses but because you lose sense of where you are. It's not a problem if there's someone sober there who's stronger than those getting high and all the exits are closed off, or if it's in a completely safe and solitary environment, but it's unlikely for people to take those steps on their own.

34 Name: BarabiSama !lmBitchbiw : 2014-11-14 14:09 ID:Kir0HaS5 [Del]

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35 Name: BarabiSama !lmBitchbiw : 2014-11-14 17:53 ID:Kir0HaS5 [Del]

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