Okay, so this thread is based on why people say being gay is 'wrong'?

All those who don't care weather a person is gay or not, I understand. Me too. However, this thread is for everyone who say it's 'wrong' to be gay.

I want to hear your perspective of this situation. I'd love to reply to your replies. Maybe we can settle this gay marriage thing. But, try to be nice when you post replies. Gay people have feelings. And you'll get a lot of negative comments if you make people feel bad just because your against something they are.

Make sure to post your views on this. I'll be happy to reply and take your idea in consideration! I am Senritu-chan and I will see ya all later! LETAH!^^

I don't think that they should be viewed in a negative light, but I personally do not think it is natural.

A humans developed as organisms they became two genders for a reason, the best way to survive. Since humans are more probable to survive with the help of others it is natural that they would need another person, someone of the other gender. Since they are already required to be paired to procreate, they may as well protect each other as well.

Although now, since we are far more advanced than primitive humans, this pair doesn't have to be gender based.

Maybe its like that cuz, some (remember! not all of...) gays are too agressive with their sexuality? U know - they provoke other (not attracted on it) people. But i'm pretty sure, of that provocators are everywhere. I'm bisexualist, but whatever i will never say it on public, cuz its too dangerous for me - my health, friends, parents - da whole society.

love is love ;)

Reply to Ryuzaki:
I agree that we need the opposite gender to procreate and that's why there's two genders, and since it's actually over populating right now, it doesn't matter. But, i'd like to tell you that people can love whoever they want to love. If they want a child, there's always adoption.
I know you don't see it as a bad thing. But, what if one of your close friends are gay? Would you still be their friends? Or would you stay away from them, afraid that they'll hit on you?

reply to Mana:
I do agree that some gays have no consideration if others are straight or not and still make a move on them, but the mayority of gays are really nice people. LOOK AT TYLER OAKLEY! HE'S AMAZING!
But, being Bisexual is not a bad thing either. If you want to tell your friends and family, but are afraid of what they might think, go slow. You could first tell one of your closest friends and then so on. Same with family. Tell your brother or sister, and if you don't have siblings, you can tell a cousin that your really close to. If not, there's always your mom or your dad. Not both at the same time. Sit alone with one of them and talk to them of what they think of the idea of bisexuality and homosexuality. This is only tips for those families that are christian and 'homophobic', if I may call it that.
I know it's hard, but if you don't tell them, it's like lying to your family and friends.
I wish you the best of luck!^^

I think that a lot of people consider homosexuality to be wrong because they consider it "not normal". Since a long time in history, homosexuality and bisexuality has been frowned upon simply because the majority (heterosexuality) could not accept the thought of having someone different from them. It is much like racism.

Honestly, it is kind of stupid for people to think this way because everyone has feelings. Some say that homosexuality can be "corrected" and simply "a phase everyone experiences", but people where born liking what they like, some people may change but love shouldnt be restricted. That is my opinion.

And for you homophobic out there, I respect your opinion, but just imagine the normal world was homo, and being hetero is weird. how would you feel if you were to be chastised everyday because of it.

Anonymous:
Can I just say that you just read my mind. I mean, THANK YOU. I've thought so many times how stupid it is to force people to like someone they don't, just because it's not "normal".
No matter how or what they say, what homophobic people always intend to say is this: "Like who I like, cuz I said so." That's the only thing they mean to say!
Sorry... I'm going all aggressive again... My dad's a Psychologist... It's genetic...
It also makes me angry that gay people have to come out, but Straight people don't. There's also those jokes that people make: "That shirt is so gay." "Your hair is so gay" May I remind you that gays have the best hair ever. It's a fact. Look at Tyler Oakley.
I'd love to say more, but I'm afraid, I'll get carried away and say something stupid...
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>>6 Actually, it's only certain parts of the world that have considered homosexuality wrong for a long period of time. It was considered quite normal (to the point where relationships between women and men were frowned upon by many) for many generations in ancient Greece, Japan, Rome, and many other old cultures.

It was around the late 1700's through the mid 1800's that it started to become illegal in many major countries. I believe some Western / Northern European countries adopted those rules earlier.

It's more or less a newer issue.

Christians made homosexuality wrong just because it goes against be fruitful and multiply there is more to it than just that too. Im just sick of all the discrimination. hopefully my daughter wont have to go through the same struggles I had to, but I know she will.

I know that it goes against Christianity, but christians in especific (not all of them) are against homosexuality because it makes you a "sinner". Well, NEWS FLASH: We're all sinners.
I wish the best of luck to ur daughter, toanyone! ^^

“If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they discipline him, will not listen to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones. So you shall purge the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear, and fear."
-Deuteronomy 21:18-21

if the bible says its wrong to be gay, then this holds truth as well...

Reply to Senritu-Chan
Its not about christianity and whatever my closest friend knows about that. Its just something unrespectable in my country, there is no social approvement for being different. So I just can't do that. Anyway, thank u for tips and your nice attitude

there is nothing wrong with being gay, just a hand full of hard core religious nuts with loud mouths are trying to make it look bad, fuck those people, in the future they are going to look just as stupid as racist protesters from back in the day, equality for all, simple as that, PS homophobia is not a real thing, your just a asshole! sincerely, a straight guy with a gay best friend :)

Being gay is something I kinda wondered about. Is it normal or not? I always believed love the sinner but not the sin and it does state in the bible that being homosexual is wrong but in our society they believe it's right. Saying this being homo is wrong ( sorry if I offended anyone) because it's not natural , it's against the rules of the bible and it's awkward for some people. Again I don't mind the the person being gay it's the person acting gay. Instead of showing there gay they can be interested in the same gender but not having any relationships of the same gender. ( so if it's so long)

Nothing wrong with that! (｡･ω･｡)
Love is an open door! (* >ω<)

Personally, I don't have anything wrong with gay marriage - I have friends and family who are homosexual. But I want to speak for my friend, who is unfortunately homophobic. Just to note: if I say anything that is offensive to you I am really sorry, I assure you that I'm not trying to.

I guess that it's hard for people who have been brought up in an exclusive culture where people can be discriminated against for almost anything - their physical appearance, racial background, sexuality or social status. It may also be hard for some because it IS so different, and some people will always see it as abnormal.

One other reason (which I suspect is why my friend is scared) is that people might realise that they themselves are gay or lesbian and be scared to admit it. Because of pressure, they are scared to associate themselves with being anything to do with homosexuality so to cover it they completely become against it.
I'm not really sure about these reasons, they're just my observations on things so feel free to prove me wrong!

First i'd like to say that i completely support gay marriages.
In my opinion, i think it's because marriage between a male and female was taken as "normal" since long ago, also since most marriages proceed like that. Since there are less gay marriages, people can consider it "not normal", therefore in other's opinion, "wrong".
Of course i can't speak for everybody, but so far this is how i put my understanding of it.

Rely to Freulere:
Sorry if I might seem quite rude, but are you actually saying that it's okay for gays to like the same gender, but not have a relationship with them, just because your uncomfortable seeing them together?
What if you loved this person very deeply, but you couldn't have a relationship with them because other people don't like seeing you with that person. How does that make you feel? Would you actually listen to them?
If you really care about others feelings, you should just be happy for them, and move on. The one being awkward is you, not them.

But, back to the matter where you don't know if it's 'right' or 'wrong'. I read a comment about something the person read in the bible:
“If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they discipline him, will not listen to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones. So you shall purge the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear, and fear."
-Deuteronomy 21:18-21

if the bible says its wrong to be gay, then this holds truth as well...

Do you think that's fair? Love can't change. Could you imagen where it was the way around? Straight people being 'wrong' and gays being the 'norm'? How would you feel?

This is something I would never say in public or in public. Not even to by BFF. Much less, my family. But, sometimes, I question God's existence. There's just no real proof. They say he's the 'Oh so perfect, powerful one that loves us all equally', but if he loves us all equally why does he say, the way we feel is wrong? He IS the one who 'created' us, right? Then, doesn't that mean that he made some of us 'wrong'? Not only that, but he can do anything, right? Then we can just call him and love him with all we got, but he still makes us go to the church and beg for help...??? He also says: "I can only help you, if you help yourself" PLEASE! Anyone can do that!
I don't believe that there's anyone out there who has all the power in the existence, perfect, but he's still nice.
Honestly, I just think he got bored, since he had so much power and controlled everything, and then made us to use us as dolls. So, if your going to listen to the bible, which is written by the the followers of the son of an injust god, it makes perfect sense that you would go against gay people, but your guts tell you that it doesn't matter.
Don't get carried away of what people think just because of some book of God which you could say any day, that's impossible for him to exist.

I'm so sorry if this offends you, but it's something I had to get out of my chest. If someone agrees with me, please leave a comment. For those who are against the idea, keep your words to yourself. I'd like to keep it peaceful for you guys.
Have a nice day! ^^U

Okay, I only want to clarify one thing. I'm a Christian. I'm also bisexual and support gay rights. Why? Because I think it's right, and most of all, my religion says I should.
Where does it say so? It says there is no greater commandments than love. That love beats every other commandment. If we were to live according to the Old Testament, we would get killed for wearing a fabric made out of two types of cloth. I mean, come on.

If it's love, I don't see a reason to be against it. Be it man who loves man, or man who loves woman, what is the difference? Well, I get the basic difference. What I don't get is why would anyone be bothered by this.

Also, about being 'aggressive' about your relationship... Ask all the heterosexual couples to stop kissing (not to mention going further) in public, and we'll talk about homosexuals being 'aggressive' by, omg, holding hands and such.

I don't know why people make such a big deal about it. Gay people just want to love the person that they fell in love with. The people who don't want them to have any rights are hypocrites, they will stand behind what they see is right. Then when something like this happens to them, they will be in the shoes of gay people. Honestly its not wrong to be gay. I also agree with Torao

I don't think it's a big deal either. I don't understand why other people get so affected with gays when they're not exactly involved in their relationship in the first place. If you "oppose" gays then you should not be investing your time preaching about how you hate them and just do something productive.

^

As a lesbian, I don't understand why my romantic and sexual preferences are of any concern to strangers. But I would still

like to marry another woman one day, which means that gay marriage must be legal in my country (it isn't at the moment),

and then my preferences will have to be somebody's business.

I don't understand why people think it's 'wrong' either.
Because it's not natural? Please, if it wasn't natural, it wouldn't even occur in the first place. If it was unnatural, it

would be man made. Even if it was unnatural, it doesn't mean it's wrong. Is chemotherapy also wrong??
Because it's a sin? I'm pretty sure that multiple people have covered the fact that love is the most powerful thing, and

that homosexuality was an irrelevant 'sin' mentioned alongside other ridiculous 'sins'. I'm personally an Atheist, but I

don't think God would hate you for something you couldn't help, and isn't harming anyone whatsoever.
Because it's disgusting? It's disgusting to you. That doesn't mean it's wrong. I personally find Sarsaparilla disgusting to

drink, but that doesn't mean it's 'wrong'. Should peas also be 'wrong' because my little sister finds them disgusting??

My father is extremely homophobic, and the above three reasons were his main problems with homosexuals. But I'm pretty sure

he has mental problems. For instance, he believes homosexuality is a 'sin', yet he's not even Christian, and has broken too

many of the bible's rules for him to logically use the bible as a reason to hate something. And for some reason he thinks

lesbians are sexist because they won't 'suck a c--k' (he's incredibly sexist himself). But, as I've noticed, most

homophobic people are usually small minded and stupid. So, that's the end of my rant, haha.

because the bible clearly states that it is wrong~ = w=

Kuraku, the bible also states that if woman cheats on man, she should be stoned to death. It also states that if you wear a fabric made out of two different materials, you should be stoned to death.

And most of all, Bible clearly states that judging others is wrong and that you should love your neighbour, no matter who they are and what they do.

If you try backing your actions with Bible, read it whole first, not just pull out the verses that are convenient for you at the moment =.= You're making all Christians and Jews look like homophobic freaks that way.

I, as a Christian, feel offended by your misuse of the Bible~ =w=

I don't think being a Homosexual is wrong, perhaps a long time ago before e had billions of people on earth it was considered a abomination. Though in our modern society we a so over populated it doesn't really matter, city's are running out of space for new homes, toxic air runs through our lungs from the waste we created. So really loving the same gender has no effect on the heterosexual life at all. I hate to put it in such a blunt and negative reply, I am totally fine with homosexuals. There are more important things people should had then someones sexual life. Thank you.

>>27 He's not misusing it. People who "follow the Bible" yet only pick out the good parts are misusing it, frankly. He's just pointing out that there are negative things in the Bible that have the potential to back the argument that religion is against homosexuality.

Anyway, those violent verses are mostly in the Old Testament, which most sub-sects of Christianity have declared null and void, including both the good and bad parts. I suggest you all only quote the New Testament when discussing why homosexuality is wrong or right in the modern day.

Reply to NyaNya:
Okay... Your father... He says it's a sin......................... NEWS FLASH: WE'RE ALL MOTHER F*CKING SINNERS!!
Ugh. Sorry... I am so sorry... but, not for those who say it's a sin. I'M SORRY! I'm just sick and tired of hearing people say it's a sin! If you say you've never sinned before, that's a LIE! and if I recall correctly, lying is a SIN! So, doesn't that make you a sinner as well? HELLO! We've all lied and sinned before! We are all sinners!!
*Sigh*
There is no right or wrong, good or evil. They don't understand it, but they need to accept it.

I've met people that are so pathetically stupid that it pisses me off just to talk to them seriously. They say things like: "But, God says that it's 'wrong' to be gay." "Homosexuality is disgusting. We don't want to see them be all lovey dovey all over the place." "Ugh... They're just a bunch of sinners."
WTF!?!?!?!

Okay, no.1 They say that as if God was their master. If your God told you to kill yourself, would you do it? NO!

no. 2 If you think it's disgusting to have people sucking their faces off all over the place, why don't you look at those men and woman that are probably half naked in public and tell the to get off each other! THAT'S disgusting.
I've seen so many straight people half way through sex in public and no-one says anything. But, when you see two males holding hands, they give them funny looks.
WTF!?!

no. 3: As I said before, WE. ARE. ALL. SINNERS!! Cheese people!Accept reality and move on! Things are what they are! You can't change people's thoughts just because you think it's wrong.
Life does NOT go the way you want it to be! If anything, it's all the way around!

Sigh... I hope things like this can change the mind of your father and others who say it's wrong. I wish you luck, NyaNya! ^^

Kuraku... Oh, Kuraku... Darling...
Do you really believe in the words of a person who can kill you without even looking at you? I mean, It's God's words we're talking about! He's the most powerful thing in existence, He controls everything that happens, he scares me!

Hell, Orochimaru looks nicer than God!

YES, I AM ATHEIST!! Sorry if I offended anyone. I just needed to take that out of my chest.

The point is... The bible doesn't say how life is supposed to go. So, not everything the bible says is true, you know.
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Longggggg live BL fans!!! xDDD

Humans are humans

Humans are humans

is not wrong its just odd for those who didn't see nor interacted with gays before.

I don't think that it's wrong. I'll never harass anybody because their gay. I have a couple of gay friends as well. But I can see why some people think that it's wrong. Again, I disagree on this but people do assume that one of our main purposes as a species is to reproduce and keep the human race alive. That is only truly possible in one way (at least today). And that is to have sex with a female of the same species. This is a fact. But the people who bring this point up are thinking from a species standpoint. Not the individual. This is the line that, instead of trying to explain, people get pissed and argue and fight and hell even kill. Everyone is different, Nobody should have to fear for their safety because someone else has conflicting values or ideals. Unfortunately, this is the world we live in. If we as a race get over races, genders, and sexual orientation then there will be another topic that will have us as conflicted as we are today. We as humans are violent. It's in our nature, it's how we've survived against the things on this planet that are stronger, bigger, faster, and deadlier than we are. And so, we as a species will never truly find the peace we are all holding our breath for. It is an unattainable goal for us. That's why people think that being gay is wrong

It's the way they have been raised. My parents still hold very traditional beliefs and values, but I don't think lesser of them. They were raised with these beliefs all their life, and to them it's strange and different. We are all prejudice in some way or form. Is it not prejudice to judge someone for not being supportive of lgbt?

Everyone has their perspective on what is right or wrong. And in reality, we cannot say what is right for someone else other than ourselves. As long as you do not spread hate, and violence, it should matter what someone thinks about lgbt. You could tell someone they are wrong for not supporting lgbt and calling them out, but it wouldn't change their beliefs. Sure, they might act accordingly to that when called out, but it wouldn't change their internal thoughts. And in the same way, you can tell someone being gay is wrong, but it isn't going to change what they believe in right.

In my opinion, love is love. It shouldn't matter if someone has female body parts or male. If you love them, you love them. But in acknowledge to everyone else. I cannot say to you what is wrong or right. That is for you to decide for yourself. But as long as you are not spreading hate or fear, and living without wrongly disturbing others, everything should be okay.
Spread love and positivity, life is too short to be hating. You shouldn't hate on someone for not keeping and having the same beliefs as your own.

i have a friend who said she might be lesbian simply because she has more in common with girls than guys. i fully support her with what ever she chooses.

i have my own ideals (not a bhna reference)and i dont wanna be gay, but I dont care what other people wanna do, its their life not mine.

I dont think its wrong to be gay at all, love whatever gender you want, theres no harm. If you think people loving who they want is "bad" then youre honestly an asshole xd

I was almost completely gay at one point in my life during middle school.(For real) I'm past that now and straight myself, but I just can't seem to get certain thoughts out of my head. I also really can't help but think it's weird. I have no problem with being gay what-so-ever;You can have your own preferences, They aren't my buisness and I don't care.

I think it’s totally okay to love the same gender. I mean I‘m pansexual and sometimes there are people with comments like oh it’s gross or why are you doing this it’s unnatural! I just ignor them but I know that ther are a lot of people who can’t and I think it’s very bad for them!

Nothing wrong with being gay (unless you're Christian, in which case the Bible just literally says being gay is a sin). The point where it really gets wrong is when people decide it's a good idea to switch into "nonbinary genders" and the government starts jailing people for using the wrong gender pronouns.

There are a lot of wrong things in our life. People are born with a brain and it must be used. So it's wrong to be stupid or senseless. People are born with a feeling of affection to others and we need to help everybody. So it's wrong to be cruel or indifferent. People are born with a certain gender and it should serve its purpose too. So it's wrong to be homosexual or bisexual. The very idea of homosexuality defies the nature of gender and sexuality. Being gay means violating the borders of human nature.

Funny thing. In the bible it says man shall not lay with man or beast(Im not quoting it because I dont know the exact words). Beast, meaning bestiality, and man meaning homosexuality. But, actually the original text, or so I am told, translates to child, not man. Child being pedophilia. I choose to believe this, because even though I am no longer religious, I was raised to believe that christian God is all inclusive. Also, he gave us freedom of choice, as humans, so why would he hate us for taking part in that? it makes no sense.

Being gay is wrong in any religion. Gay is never encouraged. But people should never judge one easily. They may be reasons, problems..etc

dont judge people so quickly, i dont see anything wrong with being gay or bisexu
al, so there.

Being gay is not wrong. As a fellow LGBTQ I believe that people can love any sex that they want to. Who ever said that, don't listen to them.

Well it dosent really matter as long as ur human a love someone it dosent matter.

I think being gay is the best personally and gay marriages are allowed in my country and state we even have a gay parade, i think we should allow this in other places to.

I have to agree with Gin on this one.

i personally believe that being gay is just fine i only have a problem with it when people push there sexuality onto others, we don't care what or who you do in you own time.

I'm proud to be GAY!

I mean homosexuality occurs in 1,500 species, so like when people say it's uNnatUraL or "a choice" makes me cringe ://

For me, it is religious purposes and what I believe through such. Yes, I have homosexual friends. No I don't hate them. I just disagree with them. People in this generation tend to mix disagreement with hate with all sorts of conversations only to start arguments.

You guys do realize homosexuality and lgbt sexualities... arenr just in humans... right? So by your logic, if you go and bash on two consenting adults for falling in love, then you better go and bash that frog lesbian couple. Because same sex relationships exist in the wild and certain animals can change their sex if their population is in danger.
There is not wrong with being gay