So today, and awkward situation happened to me. Long story short, two guys ganged up on me after I called one of his bullshit, and I had to fight back. Now, I really don't like those two, but I hesitated to actually use force until I felt completely restricted and without choice.
I'm not really sure why I did that. But it brought up this point in my head. Even when they were attacking me, I didn't feel like it'd be okay for me to hurt them. I didn't actually attack, just defend, but what if it only made them more aggressive?
So, Dollars, do you fight back on these kind of situations? Do you proceed to do more than defend yourself to leave the impression that you're not one to mess with? In fact, HOW do you react, when with violence? Also, for the sake of the situation, how would you react if you were being attacked by more than a single person?

YOU DONT JUST WALK AWAY. They attacked yo7 for verbal reasons.
Remember, they attacked first. You dont just let yourself get beat up.

I'm in same case, but if I fight back I think its bad for me, because they can call more friends or something like that, that's why we must have group of Dollars members in our city and next to us, but if you can, I think you must fight back ...

I too am a bullying victim and veteran of ten years, just recently getting off the chain. If you have to use violence, be conserative in your amounts of physical expressions, don't be sloppy, and make sure someone else is watching it all go down, for future safety reasons. I wish you luck, and you know where to find me if you ever want to let something off your chest. Keep smiling, my brother in arms.

Not sure how old you guys are so its kinda hard to give you advice because there are different options for different ages but the main thing that i want to say is that violence is not the answer. Now saying that my definition of violence is different from others for example, defending one's self through combat is not violence for me. for me violence is going ape shit and not stopping for anyone.

Don't forget that you are in school so there are always teachers to go to but if you are in the case that i was a few years ago where you could hide behind a teacher and there is no other outcome then you may need to use force. but remember guys dont use more than is necessary. also another thing that happened to me was in my first year of infants school (elementary for americans)there was the biggest strongest kid in school who decided to bully me cause i was new so what i ended up doing was finding out something we both liked and through that he became one of my best friends.

couldn't not could for the teacher thing*

Yeah ... but in street is a little different ... but only if is necessary we must fight I think ...

Something that you could do is meet up with friends or some local dollars. Bullies are always more threatened when you are in a group.

Yeah, that's right

Ok .. but only in urgent condition..
if not, there are so many conclusion.
ask for your believed friend,

sometimes ask help to the teacher make the doer become angry and bullying more and more.
danger for the victim

(sorry for the grammar --'' )

I am learning the tiger form of martial art which is very aggressive. However I never use it to be the aggressor. In situations when your body is in danger I believe it is necessary to fight back, sometimes hard. But it is never a question of proving ones dominance and strength. Sometimes we must fight to defend ourselves but never let that become an excuse to do more damage than necessary.

i said that (minus the learning of martial arts thing) in my first post on this thread. fighting back is fine as long you "dont use more than is necessary." Also when i said about meeting up with dollars just remember though some view this as a gang, we are not a gang that are here to get into fights with people. we are not the bluds nor the crips, not the black panthers nor any other form of aggressor gang.

We are the dollars, a group that in essence just want to belong.

creo uqe para los dollars es bueno aconsejar pero no se la verdad

y porque no es verdad?

Mr.Z is completely right, and I agree with his words. Keep your shit straight, and whatever you do make sure that defending yourself does not become releasing your aggression on these punks. Do not let defending yourself register on an emotional level, and everything should turn out just fine. I wish you luck Dias. I'm sorry you're going through this, but if all else fails, you know the Dollars are here to support you by whatever means possible.

Thanks guys, this has been really helpful(especially since I probably would have really lost my shit and done more than the necessary). I'll try to keep my distance from them and see if they leave me alone.

one more piece of advice! if you do get into a fight, keep your hands close to your head and if you can try to make a confusing and loud ass sound to confuse them for a potential escape (if you think the situation will get out of hand)

An eye for an eye.

I was bullied few years in my childhood (age from about 6 to 8-9) by a kid who was few years older than me. After my parents found out about it and reported it to the teachers, it stopped. (Bully's mom was just petting his hair saying that her son wouldn't do something as bullying... Fuck it...)

When I entered junior high school, I got bullied on again, only verbally though, I'm big-sized (in every way :/...) so no one really tried anything like that, and they still didn't go bullying me all the time.

Few nasty comments now and then, or they came to me and asked me questions you would ask from a retarded person, unfortunately for them, I answered with such answers that they were the ones looking like retards :D So, they got tired of that in 1 3/4 years...

But if I would be physically bullied by them, I would hit them, hurt them and I'd probably enjoy it :)

if you do get bullied, try to be nice to the people who bully you. it really helps. if people start using violence try defending yourself with a book. you can block people trying to hit you and, if necessary, hit them back without causing any serious damage. this has worked for me so far, but it might not work for you, because you are surrounded by different people.

If someone is bullying you and uses physical force it is completely ok to use it right back. It is ok to fight so long as you have a reason I have been in many fights and I still get in them but never just because I feel like fighting or going up and hitting someone because I don't like them. They have to give a justifiable reason to start swinging or you are just as bad as they are.

People can only tolerate things for so long , and it is okay to fight back though you have a choice whether to use the same amount of force that they inflicted on you or try to outsmart them for something they can't do to you.

Well, i think it depends on the situation, if you are attacked by "example" 3 guys and you whant like "vengance" i think you should tell your friend id they would fight by your side (i will do it for the ones that i consider my friends) and go to them...always, you have to remember when you win a fight and dont abuse
Example 2
If it is only 1 guys bothering you, you should call a friend too and call your "enemy" and tell him something like "i whant a 1 vs 1" and you call a friend only because if the guy call his friends and the fight becomes unfair, by the other side if the guy wins you the 1 vs 1 and you get k.o. Or something like that you need a friend to tell the guy "you win, so stop" and your friend will be the one that will take you out from there

Hell yeah it ok to fight back. A few months ago these 2 big dudes were picking on me just cause I'm short, so I grabbed a chair and threw it at them. And now they don't even mess with me anymore.

If you have to yea

Unlike everyone else here I think that it's obvious that you should fight back! Don't just "walk away" or "tell a teacher" because you know, school isn't the cliche'd "if you walk away then they'll get bored" type of school. It's real life here that no anti-bullying video made in the 1980's could ever get right.

If someone is attacking you verbally or physically, if you walk away, then they know that you're obviously weak. They will NOT bother you because they know that you'll tolerate it. And if you "tell a teacher" or "go to a peer counseling teacher" or whatever you have, then the problem will only stop temporarily. Sure maybe in school it might stop, but when your outside of school it won't stop! When you're out of the sight of a teacher it won't stop! Maybe if you fight back and show them that you aren't going to stand for being bullied then they'll stop! And don't rely on bystanders, it's not their fight, it's yours.

yes if you have to

At my school if you are in a fight, you have to be hit three times before claiming self defense, but i try to avoid any kind of violence. But sometimes its necessary

You know guys, back in my days as a middle schooler I was bullied.
The stupid teachers in my school would incourage us to write bully reports; little tiny slips of paper for a teacher to read, and the kid would get suspebded for a few days. We would all write bully reports; abd the stupid fucks wouldn't read them. Not a single one. Then the fight comes along. We would send bully reports vlearly stating that we were being bullied, and the idiots wanted to suspend us for 5 fucking days when we decided to fight back against the bully.
Such a good example people are putting on kids; early in their lives no one helps them. Turn to a teacher; get bullied more. No one helps them, that puts into minds school rules are shit; Later in their lives, what are theu gonna think? School shit, Law is shit. Tjis explains the reason for thugs; both bullies and victems.

I would fight back at them, if they'rete ones first to start shit then you should fight back.If I was being ganged up by someone I would try to fight back but if it got worse I would just flee.

Sometimes you aren't given a choice of whether to fight back or not. If you are in danger or if they refuse to stop, then you must fight back. Unfortunately others will not always help you, especially schools who are too busy trying not to get into a lawsuit. If you are being bullied, you should stand up for yourself. Defend yourself and fight back enough for them to see that it isn't okay to mess with you. But do not go over the top, otherwise you risk putting yourself into a worse situation. It should be self defense, not revenge. I've done this my entire life. Through middle school, high school, and even in college. The methods change, sometimes physical rebuttal, sometimes verbal, but the effect is the same. Stand up for yourself and do not seek revenge.

I can partly agree to what was already said. Violence isn't a solution. However, defending yourself is something else.
Fighting back with violence to defend one's self.
That's something that only should be done if it is really necessary and if there is no other way.
Aside from that, good luck Dias.

i FIGHT

If you don't fight back how will it be stopped? You have to fight to win.

I agree with >>32. If you just lay limp and let the do whatever they want to you,they'll keep on doing it. You have to show that you're not a push other everyone once in a while.
You did a good thing :)

Mostly just defend yourself. Don't start stabbing them with pens.

Both members of the party are most likely going to get into similar trouble with whatever authority the situation applies.

In any case its best to fight back, your both going to get it if caught.

Of course it is okay to fight back from bullying. You have every right to treat them the same way they treat you and a little bit more just because they startet it! Haha ...

If you've annoyed someone, continue pissing them off until they hit you. That way, even if you get caught, all the fault will fall upon the opposite party and you won't get in trouble even if you've broken one or more of their bones.

Oh. But be careful for them not to hit you too hard the first time.

You get attacked, you should fight back.of course there are different cases, but if someone started to attack me, i would fight back. Now in all honesty, i like fighting, i do boxing, kickboxing, martial arts, etc, and its so much fun to me. So if i was in that kind of situation of being attacked, i wouldn't let them get away with it. Now i would only go so far of course in my defense, but i would throw a punch back of course.

fighting fire with fire huh

I actually don't like hurting people i usually just dodge or block until someone breaks it up, however if there is 2+ people i do fight back full force which I hate. In my high school both parties got suspended no matter what, they told us to walk away..like thats going to work while a bullying is punching you in the back and holding you down. I've only been in 2 fights but luckily people don't really mess with me. I vote to fight back.

Yes, what goes around comes around.

Aren't most people bullied because they don't fight back ?

A good way to avoid the battle is to run away, though. It's in my opinion the best solution. Just train to run faster if you're slow and keep something to distract the enemy ( salt can blind one's eyes for example ).

Dias, honey, if those idiots still bothering you, then yes. You HAVE to fight back. You HAVE to show people you are not someone who is easily to mess with. If they start a verbal fight then you just have to verbalize them harshly until they pissed their pants. If one of them threaten to throw a fist at you then you show them you're not afraid to sucker punch him in the face too. If you're afraid to take the risk, it's okay to inform your teachers or the authority on what's going on. There's no cowardice on that. Infact, the bullies are more to think if you choose to stay quiet, you have no guts and they'll keep bothering you like undettered pests.

An eye for an eye. A verbal for a verbal. A fight for a fight. Two can play a game.

You SHOW them you are strong. You SHOW them you are not afraid. And you SHOW them you're not some weakling taking it all in and afraid to stand up for yourself. In these situations, don't panic. Keep cool and remain calm. In an argument, a fight or an act of defense or offence, the one who loses their demeanour, mentality or act brashly is the first who loses. Would you rather look down on those idiots or being look downed upon? Of course you'll choose the latter.

What I'm trying to say is, even if you keep running or avoiding these bastards, someday, eventually, you're going to fight them back. It's just the matter of time when and how you're going to react. This isn't just anybody's fight, It's yours, on how you'll fight is for YOU to decide.

I believe that if there is another way, nobody should resort to fighting. However, if you are cornered, and they begin to attack, you should fight back. Dont pick fights, finish them. Make it known that if they are going to pick a fight, they will lose. And if you make a threat, and they dont listen, follow through.

Fight fire with fire. An eye for an eye.

If someone had come up to me and started to push me around, I would just try my hardest to walk away without starting a fight. I don't like attention on me anyway. But if more than one person came up to me, or even if one person wouldn't stop bothering me, the yeah I'd fight back.
I'm not gonna show people that I'm weak, because I know I'm not, I know that fighting back can end in many different ways, but sometimes you just gotta go for it.
If you don't fight back, people may think you're weak and that they can hurt you.

I believe that whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger, and if someone does wrong to you, karma will come right back to them. An eye for an eye

I'm kind of a bully, I like to tease people and I like to make people uncomfortable.
I like to show people that humanity is pretty ugly, but it's all a great big joke so who cares.

Sometimes that makes people really mad and sometimes they try to fight me.
I try not to and try to make them understand that I didn't mean to hurt them that much.
If the shoe is on the other foot, I try to do the same.
I don't really like to fight physically.

But if someone crosses my shit line, I see red.
It's spooky and I don't like that part of me at all.

So to answer the OP's question:
Yes. It is 100% okay to fight back.
It is the code.

"Protect with savagery your blood and kin. Let no one and nothing violate your love or the way. Let there always be inequity in defense. Always protect thrice as fiercely as one is attacked. Protection is the mark of the warrior spirit."

"Those who follow the way must know the art of combat, weapons, and vengeance. War is part of the path. Always be prepared for hostility. It is a destiny woven into the fibres of our people. Keep body, mind, and training up at all times. Have no remorse in the savagery or conflict. Win, prevail, and survive."

If someone attacks you,you have all the rights to strike that bastard back.

I guess, it's okay to fight back as long as no one gets hurt to the point of broken rips or legs or something...

If your very strong, stronger than those guys, and you're sure you're gonna hurt them pretty much, but you don't want it. then I think, it's okay to run as well.
I mean. It's not like your a coward. you're running for their sake after all.

It would be best, of course, to solve the problem with words alone.
But when it seems this doesn't work out it's certainly right, to defend yourself and to fight back, if you wanna do that.
Just be careful to fuel the hatred as less as possible.

as long as you're okay with it (and you won't hate yourself for it), running away would be the best option to do that. I guess.
Running is always seen as something terrible. But I see this as a very BRAVE act, actually! Not everybody can go away and let offense just pass by as if they're not even there. Everybody would feel defensive. But it's an even greater act to no react, maybe forgive or pity the offenders and just go by (or run, if neccessary) :)

you have to fight back

I got bullied but I just ignored them till my brother went up to the teachers and made them actually do something. It was quite embarrassing but they never bullied me since also the reason I never bullied them is because I just listened to there conversations and if they ever do something I have some dirt on them. 😏

I think it's okay to fight back the bullying you got. If you don't have the resources alone, you can ask others to help you e.g friend

A very big Yes from Silky XD
fighting back is like self defense. But i'd much prefer it if you always bring a lethal weapon in your sleeve's ^U^
Heh I'm just sharin!!!!

Guys please make sure not to kill anyone. Just alert your teacher of whats going on. Tell your parents or the principle. Dont fight unless you absolutely have to, and never take a weapon to school. Trust me, its not worth it.

>>59 Agree
I had this problem too but racist problems so I fought a lot of people. Tell everyone your teacher, principle, councilor and your parents you're having a problem and if they put their hands on me(you) you're going to be playing your defense role and you're serious. I called my parents and told them too, I'm sorry but someone seem to be picking a fight me and I'm tired of it. I(you) told everyone of my situation and since they're not doing anything about it I'm going to have to defend myself. Beat them up once they pick a fight but not into a pulp like I did. I almost got arrested but still don't give them any chance fight hard still. Good Luck. Remember you'll get question too so you'll tell them I(you) told you what will happen and it did, I'm(you) not going to let that continue. These guys felt like they can bully me but I'm(you) not going to let them continue. You want to let them know precisely you told everyone your situation and needed help and if no one is going to stop it you will do it yourself.