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The practicality of a peaceful color gang in America. (20)

1 Name: Orca : 2013-04-12 16:00 ID:5ftR/OWk [Del]

I always wonder how practical it would be to organize a Dollars-style color gang somewhere in America composed of more than just thuggy teenagers and wannabes. If anybody would like to provide it, I would enjoy some insight as to the logistics of such an occurrence.

2 Name: Zeckarias : 2013-04-12 16:30 ID:nohnqssX [Del]

Do you mean the feasibility of creating an organized anonymous group without defined mission, but generally humanitarian in nature? It's kind of difficult to understand what it is you're getting at, when the truth is the operations of the Dollars was pretty ill-defined.

At any rate, the feasibility of these groups is pretty simple, but they're hardly ever referred to as "gangs", and in most places the transparency is hard to support. From what I've seen, it usually goes like this:

-Group of people want to help out
-Come together and do so, not as a group explicitly, but as joined individuals for a certain effort
-Some decide they want to do even more
-Continue efforts, becoming more organized and complex as time passes
-Outside individuals recognize efforts of group
-Group becomes "official" or "defined" to explain their interests to others (this is where much of the transparency is lost)
-Maintained or falls apart due to efforts of people involved, interest in projects, PR, funding etc.

The main problem faced by this community is unlike these other groups, the face was formed before it's body of work. We have many who join before we have anything to do, making connecting difficult, which causes these people to become disinterested and leave, repeating in a vicious cycle.

3 Name: passing girl : 2013-09-04 23:50 ID:QeA/110X [Del]

I like the idea of it just as any other person might. However the idea of it is just that, an idea. It can't really fully become reality.
A "peaceful" color gang can't exist. In showing that a "peaceful" color gang can't really exist, the anime depicted it really well. Let me just list it out okay?

-Other gangs WILL challenge you. The moment you become a part of a color gang and you cross a turf wearing that color? They will beat you up.
-Once you start accepting gang members that you don't know or the gang becomes too big, there will be people acting up outside of your orders.
-Not everyone is willing to join a gang, peaceful or not.
-You can claim to be a peaceful gang all you want but as long as you are still a "gang" the stigmata and stereotypes of/for other gangs will also be stuck on you.
-Peaceful or not, if a student joins the gang and are found out? The chances are very very very very likely that they will be suspended/expelled from school.

I'm pretty sure there are more but I'm tired and can't think of any others for now but honestly? If there is a purely peaceful gang like the Dollars, awesome. However, you can call yourself peaceful and refuse to fight back, but people will still fight against you and bring fights to you.

4 Name: Marmeladov : 2013-09-05 02:52 ID:5hq4AO9Z [Del]

>>3Hey, a change in what teens do like this would be great. And it would not be the cause of violence. Whoever initiates the violence i think is the cause of it. Nevertheless I do think wearing a color would create school problems for dress code or a no gangs policy.

But isn't there supposed to be no color in this good gang? And you don't HAVE to say that you're in it. But I do agree that this group could fall apart due to it being so anonymous. You could recruit good people you know that way you can even organize them but the idea just seems too crazy to be true. Doing that anonymously is even harder. If the police ever have to get involved it's over. Seeing as though this site can be taken down by them. It's like the question "Would you ever be a superhero?".

5 Name: Karichii : 2013-09-05 07:27 ID:XZsOjILO [Del]

I like what Passing girl said( >>3 )
The anime did a very good job of showing out how something like that would play out. It would only cause violence and it would get out of control. People would only end up getting hurt if you tried creating it and the only reason it didn't have a very very bad ending in the anime is because it's non-fiction and they had mythical creatures on their side in the show. In real life, a lot more people would have gotten hurt and been killed and there could have been an all out war or even massacre.
It's a bad idea and I think that's part of what they were trying to get at in the series.

6 Name: Karichii : 2013-09-05 07:31 ID:XZsOjILO [Del]

Sorry to shoot down the idea, I know you have good intentions but so did Mikado and Kida.

7 Name: Inuhakka !.5xqXJfr96 : 2013-09-05 15:04 ID:ViWY4o4j [Del]

Bump

8 Name: Sloshy : 2013-09-05 22:36 ID:0em7Ahfr [Del]

If you're going to do this, you should probably start by making a small group out of close friends, then slowly expand to include other people who are interested in your actions. You should only focus on community service, and using the connections your group members have to make your area a better place in general. A peaceful gang can work, but you'll have to be careful about it. Don't let your personal feelings and opinions get in the way of your mission.

9 Name: Steve : 2013-09-06 00:10 ID:+VFEoWxf [Del]

you do realize the dollars are COLORLESS, right?

10 Name: Kuroki : 2013-09-06 02:42 ID:xoZQ+4IS [Del]

I agree with Steve. The Dollars aren't really meant to be known publicly. Nor are we meant to be an option against gangs or thugs. I mean, we aren't really meant to have rules either but still....just be careful buddy.

11 Name: Inuhakka !.5xqXJfr96 : 2013-09-06 06:59 ID:9ScUlSX4 [Del]

Bump

12 Name: passing girl : 2013-09-06 23:03 ID:QeA/110X [Del]

>>4 I realize that it would be a good change for teens just having graduated out of high school recently myself. However the fact doesn't change that when someone attacks you, especially a gang, it's either fight back or risk getting beaten to death. It doesn't matter who initiates, once you take that first hit you're going to be included in the violence and the public typically doesn't care which side you were on once they find out you're part of a gang.

You have a point that we are colorless and don't have a color to wear but then that makes it worse in a way. If we do make an actual gang/group, whatever you want to call it, that meets up. How long do you think it'll take for other gangs to find out that we are colorless. Then how long do you think it'll take for them to start cornering random pedestrians who cross into their turf and then start "questioning" if they are a part of Dollars?

13 Name: Elos!tHu13C7K42 : 2013-09-06 23:40 ID:Dyoaei1v [Del]

>>1

The moment you gain publicity in your local area as a "Gang", it's no longer "practical".

14 Name: Elos!tHu13C7K42 : 2013-09-07 00:08 ID:Dyoaei1v [Del]

>>1 That is, being branded by public as a "gang" works for well... Thug and criminal gangs and other rejects (they get off on it). For a group of people that's more than "just a thuggish teenagers and wannabes", you wouldn't expect them to be as retarded as to want to be branded the same now do you? Publicity such as this is most impractical if you are planning to form a group of fluffy-lulz-adorable-cute vigilantes,humanitarian aides and goodie-dooers. That's the utopia of any butthurt teen trying to imagine what-would-happen-if-dollars-gathered.

NOW... If you TRULY wish to gather a group of people, have them adopt a similar dress-code with a dominant color and have them mold their mindset and behaviour to represent the symbolic meaning of it as well as presenting yourselves to the public as a "Gang" uh... Take pictures!

15 Name: YouKnowMe : 2013-09-07 00:45 ID:lY30gP99 [Del]

When I read this, I thought about the whole Galax thing in the anime Gatchaman Crowds. You guys should totally check it out.

16 Name: Anonymous : 2013-09-14 21:17 ID:HoD+dkWD [Del]

bump

17 Name: man : 2013-09-15 01:20 ID:XWtBf+XC [Del]

If that happens people are probably gonna get shot

18 Name: Xephlrek!JZFVKEQYEc : 2013-09-15 02:17 ID:EuotKb5p [Del]

>>17 Lol'd.

19 Name: Steve : 2013-09-15 02:36 ID:+VFEoWxf [Del]

>>9 your right about that!

20 Name: Red X : 2013-09-15 03:22 ID:WE/ws93e [Del]

No color is better so that there would not be any gang wars and gangs claiming territory.