It is official. The Westboro Baptist church who picket American soldier funerals, say awful things about the government, and brainwash even children into saying and believing that "Fags will all burn in hell, with a fag supporting America." They are the most despicable group in the states since the KKK. Recently a hacktavist named The "Jester" who is a rouge not associated with the Cyber Terrorist group "Anonymous" shut down 5 of the WBC websites. WBC assumed it was anonymous and began to try and start a fight. Anonymous refused, but when pushed to far, have declared [Operation Payback] Anonymous has been called the internet guardians, the internet bullies, and the internet kings. They have declared War on the WBC and the WBC have declared it right back.

I think the Dollars should come out and support Anonymous even though they are technically cyber terrorists. But as pointed out by Robert Meeropol (Not associated with, but well informed of, Anonymous)The government today in our post 9/11 despair throw out the word "terrorist" to freely towards our own citizens, children, and activists. Meeropol is the Author of "An execution in the Family" as well as well know activist/speaker/author for 30 years as well as the founder of the Rosenburg Fund For Children, and had both his parents put to death at the age of 6 for espionage which they most likely were innocent of. And Anonymous calls themselves 'Hacktivists'. Also considering their incredible internet power, I think an alliance would be very good for us, our ideology is very very similar. (Some say DRRR was inspired by Anonymous)

here is the fight LIVE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OZJwSjor4hM

You can all start by signing this petition to make the WBC an official Hate Group! https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/legally-recognize-westboro-baptist-church-hate-group/DYf3pH2d#thank-you=p

wow almost 176k signatures on the petition (including mine), this will probably go through. I know i signed it. as far as allying ourselves with Anonymous, idk we're more of a forum than anything else so i don't see this really effecting anything.

If you go through with this, do you mind making a seperate sub division of the Dollars with a differnt name? ; Just so those that are in the Dollars but don't agree aren't involved.

Do u guys really think that Anonnymous is so good to society?
They are communists, and I really like to play video games, see movies, etc., and I bet you like it too.
Anyway, most of Anonymous people are completely incompetent (I know a LOT of then).
So, I don`t approve Anonymous, and try to think after joining a "dangerous" group like that.

I don't think it would be a good idea. Some of our members are military (army myself) if it was found out that we are in some kind of communication with them wed could get kicked out or serve jail time because they are considered "terrorists" ( just not the kind most people think of)

This is soooooo NOT a good idea!

What makes Anonymous so different from the Dollars? A large group of bullshitters that say and not do~ But, again, with both, some people do and some people don't on both groups.

At best, we'd probably ally ourselves with them occasionally, but not be too personal...

Also, must I remind the people the rules of the internet? One should nev'r get comf'rtable 'nd arrogant behind yo'r ostensible shroud of anon'mity. Don't be flabb'rgast'd when things; like your name, address, 'nd/or (phone/cell) number; get fling'd back in yo'r smirking face.

First *Pacheco* they are not communists, they are radicals, and I don't agree with them on that, but war with the WBC is something I can get behind! And yes *Day/Dia* both groups have bullshitters that dont DO anything, but Anonymous has way more members that do get shit done. The Idea of a name to separate us as members who do and don't support is an interesting idea *Dagger*. *Code Hell* as for military personal, we would love to have you on board but fully understand why you can't and we respect that. But *Dagger* and all dollars, do you want to be just a forum of bullshitters that don't ever do anything? or do you want to be a movement that people will know? They will say 'oh did you hear about those dollars guys?' 'oh yea I think so, some sort of weird internet group, but they dont seem bad' or something like that, if we want more we have to work for more!

I hate those Westboro Baptist Pricks!

Hmm... intreaguing news...

Got an idea, we should go to the video link and post the petition link in a message. It will deffinately help and will get the WBC in some deep shit.

Good idea! I will do that now.

I'm all for defining WBC as a hate group ("if the boot fits..."). However trying to squish the dollars into our own personal perceptions of what we think they should be is the antithesis of what the dollars are. If you disagree with the WBC then good for you. The dollars are who we are, not what we are. As a whole never have and never will have an agenda, goal, or political position. If you can't understand why that's what makes this group great then I recommend you think it over. Who are the dollars? We are. What are the dollars? Clearly Colorless.

@ leefan I still think that`s a bad idea...
Different from Anonymous, Dollars are invisible, we just do good things to people.
Change the world is definitely not invisible, and >>8 Yeah, Anonymous is Communist, and the guys that aren`t communists or don`t do anything useful or they are Anarchists...
So, let`s just do good things, a war don`t do anything good to anyone.
We don`t need to be famous, we need to be good.

>>8 ( leefan ) I just want to clarify that I think the WBC is fucked up. I was just posting my concern about associating ourselves with Anonymous

@Liminoid Afraid of a little real life action? Or are you just too lazy to do anything about it?

First things first old news is old. That live confrontation happened something like two years ago. It has been a regular source of lulz for me for a very long time.

I'm not sure how we would really "join forces" with anonymous. This group is literally open to anyone. I haven't looked into Anon much but I don't think it's really the kind of thing you can just get in on.

At it's base, this site is simply a community. No member is obligated to do a gorram thing. Don't treat them like they have to. While I'm all for Anon in most of the things I've seen them pulling, I see no reason to make the entire community join Anon just because you think it might make a more powerful public force.

Some people just come on here to talk to some friends and get a smile from the lol thread. And, to be quite honest- if somebody feels down and this site helps pick up their day a bit, I don't give a hoot if we did anything big. The Dollars made somebody happy and that's good enough for me.

Trying not to ramble, so, in summary:

As a group, we shouldn't support a group breaking the law. On a case by case basis, each of us can form our own opinion though.

Personally, I think everything humanly possible should be done to stop the WBC. I think it's silly for that to be a group of hackers playing with their websites.

What I'd like to see is for this petition to go through. Harassment is illegal. Hate crimes are illegal. This is pretty much everything the WBC stands for. These people should be in jail.

I support Anonymous's efforts on a personal level, however affiliating the entire Dollar's community with Anonymous or any other group for that matter, I don't support. Most people don't even come on here for serious things, they just come to read interesting threads and chat with friends.

hmmmm............. I think, as a group.... We could say that although we do not approve of anonymous methods of trying to change the world, we are against the WBC. We shouldn't "join" anonymous. We should make it clear that this ONE time, for this special reasons, we do support them. We are not friends, or a joined group. Neither are we their enemies or against them.

But, we also have to take in account that we are Dollars. Dollars don't believe in war. We believe in finding a way to save the world peacefully. So at the same time, supporting anonymous will be going against our beliefs. So the question is.

Is this a time when enough is enough, war can't be avoided, and we need to make a stand?

Or, do we need to think harder for a way to end this peacefully, with out possibly damaging what little reputation we have and possibly making bonds and enemies we aren't ready to deal with?

We should either join Anonymous' fight against them, or make our own fight.

I personally am not a homosexual, but I know atleast one person who is, and he is a good person.

Also, these "people" said that God himself sent the Connecticut shooter to do his work for him.

I have researched them from their own website, godhatesfags.com, and a link there leads to a video about some things that made me sick.

They were saying things like "Preists rape children" and "Thank God for dead soldiers".

If we are not to join Anonymous in a fight against WBC, then we will have our own.

They will be brought down, as they are soon to be an official hate organization because of a petition.

We are a group dedicated to peace, right??

Sometimes peace has to be brought on in a way that isn't exactly peaceful.

>>21 This.

hmmm........ I think your right. With these kind of people you can't win threw peaceful acts. And what they are doing is just to horrible no NOT do anything about.

So, do we stand by anonymous or pose a fight of out own? As I said before. I don't think we should "Join" I think we should "stand by" Make it clear that we do not approve of their way of doing things, but they are right in standing against these horrible people. If we chose a fight of our own I'm not sure how well we'd do. We just don't have enough serious people in the Dollars right now. But we sure as hell could give it a try.

I say, either way of doing it, it's time the Dollars took a stand. We've been waiting for something big, to put our names out there, and let the world know we're here. We'll, this might be the time.

There is a simple way to defeat WBC without war: STOP SEING WBC!!!
Probably it wont work, but at least we are slowly decreasing their power with a legal and non violent way.
say no to war, say no to Anonymous =)

>>21 I just have to say one thing: it's know that some priests do rape and molest children (mainly little boys). There have been many cases of it before, and it's not always taken seriously.

Just felt like sharing that before people start going, "THEY SAID WHAT?" without knowing that there is an ounce of truth in there.

If you want sources on that note, I should be able to find some.

@Barabi

I know it has happened before, but some of the stuff they said really just fucked my head up.

Just watch their videos, go to their site, and tell me you don't wanna strangle whoever made or wrote the shit.

I can share a couple of their sites with you, there's more on Google probably.

Their main CHURCH site is godhatesfags.com
Their videos (including the one about how the Connecticut shooter was sent by God, and how we should thank God for dead cops and soldiers) is on signmovies.com

Please just watch some of the stuff.

Just listen.

We need to stop them.

They are a hate organization against fags, jews, and many other things

>>24 it's true about the rape thing. There have been cases. And a lot of them. But if I am correct, the WBC is saying that ALL priest do this, and that's just not true.

>>23 I'm not sure that will work. We're all human, humans get curious. They don't got the site to support, but out of curiosity of what's being said. I don't remember boycotting every really working that well. True, that should be a part of what we do to over come them, but that alone wont do any good. We need to post a real fight. And we aren't saying we support all of what anonymous does. This would be a one-time deal. Choosing the less of two evils. Remember "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" or as I say "The enemy of my enemy is my friend for a time, but he to shall be my enemy."

I think it's time for the westboro church to quit. You have the kkk against you, and it's time to know you've gone way to far. These people are against everything, but themselves.

We can't force our members to agree or disagree with anything as a whole, but each is entitled to his own opinion. As such, I will say that I do side with Anon in this instance as well as several in the past, however I do not think siding with the group as a whole would be appropriate. At most only siding with this particular instance, Or only on an individual level, not as a whole group.

>>28 I can see your point in this. But at the same time,we stand for doing whats right. Letting these people do what they are doing isn't right.

I guess as a whole we aren't all going to agree with anonymous, and, as I've been thinking more, nor should we. I do believe we need to make public announcement that the Dollars are here, we are against the WBC, and we will do whatever it takes to bring them to an end.

Ya know, I have a cousin who works at Fox News...... maybe.... Maybe I could get, threw him, a mention about us on the news.

>>29 Agree ^^.
That's why we are here, to do good things whitout anybody knowing who we are...
This religion is obviously a plague to our world, but it will end sooner or later.
Actually, if you simply ignore most of bolshit that thay say the will die...
The only problem is to "convert" the WBC members, but it's kind of impossible...
So i keep with my idea, ignore them, and convice more people to do the same.

BUMP!

this is really old news...

Oh dear god. Let me point out why exactly OP is an idiot. I'll even use little kid words.

>>1
1. Westboro Church is just looking for attention. Ignore them.
2. You actually think that 'Anonymous' is an actual group. This alone makes me laugh. If you think that, get off of the internet: you don't deserve to be on it.
3. Actually, that's it. You're an idiot.

Sage your posts, and let this die.

Oh look, it's this again...

Alright, while I can agree that the WBC is a blight on humanity's history, I believe we're revisiting the issue of Dollars-Meets-Anonymous again...

We're a social site. A BBS. Granted, we're a little more informed than most, but that doesn't mean we have the resources to match, or even help, Anonymous.

Personally speaking, Anonymous has decent values, many of which I can agree with, but their methods are a bit extreme sometimes. I don't want any part of that and would also like to see the BBS as a whole left unscathed by any sort of activity between Anonymous and their prey.

After looking it up, I don't think we should associate with Anonymous AS A GROUP. Doing that will contradict our morals. We don't do anything as a group, and are "invisible", that's the basic idea of Dollars. Anonymous is a group known for hacking, and basically doing good/bad things to help the internet and stop censorship. "Dollars" is just a place where you can chat and post about random topics. Besides, I don't think we would be a help to Anonymous anyway.

>>25 I'll like you to read what I'm about to say, but it goes for everyone.

I'd like to start with this. Yes, what Westboro says is stupid, ignorant, hypocritical, offensive, and much more. What's on there website is terrible things that make anyone with a rational mind want to kill them.

Now, let me tell you this. I've shown this website to many people, whom are either part of the LGBTQI community (also known as the LGBT or LGBTQ community), and guess what? They laughed at it. They thought it was the funniest thing they've seen in ages.

Everyone knows they're stupid but them. Even the KKK (a group almost as stupid as them) and Anonymous [obviously] (a group that has an overwhelming amount of idiots) knows this.

What's the point of getting all stressed out over a couple of hypocritical idiots who don't read the bible they preach? That's right, there is none. They aren't even a hate group. They're just a bunch of people who're crying because they can't get laid.

A note for OP. As a group, we cannot support Anonymous. As individuals, we can. I'd hate for people to get thrown into wars that they don't want to be a part of because a few people in their group decided to fight in it.

I think we should get involved, but this is just my opinion.

lets just say we do get involved in this, it could give us a bad name and im sure that not all Dollars feel the same. Looking over the pros and cons, i would say go for it.

I understand getting worked up over what they say is unfounded, and honestly, downright illogical, but frankly, I hate the idea of letting them get away with all of those things they say. I feel that if people don't make their disapproval clear, they'll go ahead and assume we all agree with them.

Honestly, Anonymous seems to have proven themselves a commendable force. They can legitimately back up what they say, and take action when pushed to it. It seems they could do a tremendous amount of good with their abilities, if they'd only try. This argument between the church and them is childish, but it's very entertaining, and I'll admit that I'm glad there's someone expressing a disapproval to them, and backing it up with action. Perhaps something more... legal... would be nice.

" I hate the idea of letting them get away with all of those things they say."
>>39 I agree entirely. I've already decided that I'd put my full support to fighting them. If we can't stand up for what is right, then only those who are wrong are left standing and speaking. Action speaks louder than words, we should not remain silent.

i say assist anonymous, but so as not to associate The Dollars as a hacker group, if some members want to create a separate division for supporting the anonymous group in a more..."questionable" manner though, i would have no objections because WBC deserves to be taken down for spreading such crap around the world

I really don't think you guys understand what Anonymous is.
It's not a group of cyber heroes, it's not a group of terrorists, it's not really anything but an internet community...just like we are. The whole group doesn't agree with what certain cells do, just like us.
So supporting them is up to each and everyone of us.
If you and your friends want to support them under the name of the Dollars, then do it.
If you don't, then don't.
It's as simple as that.

>>42 I now consider us married. You have no say in this.

But seriously, yeah, you can support anonymous if you want to, but to try and get every one of the Dollars to is just absurd - a lot of people don't even do the missions that already exist.

Dollars SHOULD get involved. It's why we're Dollars. To stop shit like this. We should NOT join Anonymous, reguardless of what they truely are. The things that "anonymous" does is not what the Dollars stand for. True, we may be small. True we can't do much. But we HAVE to do something. How can we say we're Dollars if we don't? We need to do things like not go to the WBC sight, and get everyone we can to not go there either. Also, we all need to and get others to sign that potision saying that the WBC is a Hate group that comits Hate Crimes. If there are WBC memeber in your area causing problems we need to go behind everything they do and fix what they did. If they are holding up signs, do like in the show kinda, all the Dollars get together in a goup and stare at them. Do dfo anything, don't say anything. Stare at them like they are the biggest morons in the world, and smile at everyone who passes by, even tell them our moto. Biggest slap in the face of all? Don't support, but be nice to the WBC members. It's almost like saying we are better then your hate by showing kindness.

I support Anoymous. This is something they are doing for good reasons. plus if they picket my funeral I will come at them as a zombie

>>45 I thought you were going to leave forever ago?
I wish you would have.

BUMP
Because WBC are a bunch of assholes.

>>47 This didn't need to be bumped.
WBC is a bunch of tricksters.
And every single one of you middle schoolers just got tricked.

They want your attention and you are giving it to them.

>>48 Westboro are a bunch of attention seekers but they also firmly believe what they say, they need peoples attention so those people are ruined and stop hurting others.
There is always going to be haters but when they organism is when they become a threat and a nuisance.
Never underestimate idiots in large groups.

Well, first of all, we are just a bunch of kids and we cant do very much.
Second, Anonymous is not a terrorist group, they are justice, they just respect the phrase eye for eye, tooth for tooth. And as they said, they erase the evilness of the goverment.
I think theres no way we can support them but if we can do anything we can help a bit just telling the world the things anonymous can do.

>>50 Um, what? They aren't warriors of light, ya know. They are more like a group of mercs that do what they want, be it good or bad.

We are like them, 'cept we are somewhat more physical and most of them hide behind technology.

>>51
Anonymous isn't a group of mercenaries, because they don't accept money or anything like that. They are more like a group of internet hackers who want to do something for the people of the world, or "hacktivists" or you could call them. Their actions can be viewed as both good or bad if you look at it from different angles and perceptions. Their actions are what they view "justice" as. And of course they need to hide behind technology! If they were to reveal themselves then they would be arrested and thrown in jail.

I'd just like to point out the WBC is just a cult mainly made up of the extended family of this one dude who leads the church.
Also, I'm not too crazy about the idea of getting into an alliance with Anonymous. They're pretty extreme...

i personally would not like to team up with anonymous, despite their large population

>>49

>organism

Seriously though...

>organism

There are mostly kids on this site. You can't associate something loving, supportive, childish, and as big as the dollars. there is no organization to the Dollars other than we all have a feeling that the world isn't as dark as people make it out to be, or that we hope that the world isn't as dark as others make it out to be. Such a plethora of people and ideas and age ranges means that we will never be unified on a front, nor that (As Dollars) we should be. This is not a Dollar's Fight, the only reason it worked in the show was that the Dollars had a leader, a Progenitor, who had access to everyone in the group. we don't have that. So i think it would be wrong to involve the Dollars in this or most any conflict. What you do on your own is your business, but don't start saying the Dollars think this and we the Dollars Support whoever. because anyone can be in the Dollars, and we are no color. we take no sides as a group.

The fact that the Westboro Baptist Church was going to picket the funerals of the children that were victims of the Connecticut shooting saying "God sent the killer," enrages me. I would personally support Anonymous on this matter.

Hell yes! I'm a graduate from Shawnee Mission East in Prairie Village KS. we had a gay dude as a homecoming king and the WBC came with like 20 or 30 people to protest and our school responded with hundreds and destroyed them. It should be on YouTube. If there are any Dollars in my area who want to do something next time they show up, you can count on me!!!

come on stop comparing dollars and anonymous . dollars is dollars this is a fan made website for durarara fans not for anonymous , and we are NOT anonymous allies soldier and anything like that so stop making thread lke this again this is so stupid --"

>>58 Think you can post the link to the video?

>>59 This website was based off of the one in Durarara, but this isn't a fan site. Besides that, I agree with You.

Look, I can see how it might be a bad idea, but hey... why not? The Dollars have the power to help, so why not?

Maybe, though, instead of saying that we "support" Anonymous, we can declare ourselves allies with them? Supporting and being allies are a bit different, although they both accomplish about the same result.

In any case, I think that this is an idea that should definitely be seriously considered. WBC is scum, and something needs to be done about it.

this is anonymous battle not ours, support them if you want but dont go saying all of dollars supports them as well because although a lot of members agree w/ you a lot may also disagree, so if you do support or "ally" yourself w/ anonymous, dont go waving a dollars flag while you do it because YOU do not represent the rest of us and even though i agree w/ you that WBC is scum we must respect the feelings of members who feel differently. REMEMBER the dollars are colorless for a reason, if we start choosing sides we will lose that neutrality.

>>63 yeah, speaking of that...

I'm kind a' wondering how anyone could represent the Dollars as an individual... Just food for thought.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oU0jm18_g6I

Link to Shawnee Mission East High School vs WBC

>>65 This is amazing. Rock on Shawnee.

I feel more and more like WBC needs to die. :l
It's getting harder and harder to advocate my pacifistic ways...


Just to reiterate, we all do understand that Anonymous is technically a criminal organization, right? You guys are talking about allying with a criminal organization... Which would pretty much be impossible anyway...

>>66 You're wrong.

I think it would be in our best interest to try and side with them and make them our allies. Imagine the benefits if we have anonymous on our side!

Imagine also that Anonymous isn't looking for a bunch of people to play team-up with. Sorry to say, but I don't know of too many ways to reach them, and even if we did, I can't imagine they'd see any use in helping us, nor any real method of doing so. What would we do with their abilities? Hack into and destroy all the sites we disagree with? That's forcing our opinion onto others.

I understand there are probably ways they could help, but at the moment, I'm coming up with none.

>>69 Total agreement here.

We don't need to team up, we just need to be the Dollars and do whatever it is we decide we want to do.
I want to help people and I'm going out to do it, regardless of anyone else here.

it was nikio

I'm quite confused but I get the idea. I think teaming up is an okay idea but I'm not in full support. Anyways, let's do our best.

forget this fcking topic already...seriously, im tired of saying the dollars is NEUTRAL, COLORLESS, if we take sides we lose that and we lose sight our true pupose as a group...which is too help all in need, and make the world a little better in a peaceful manner, not fight for some hacker group that the rest of the world (well the media) has considered BAD, and if we support them people might consider us as the same as them. WE ARE NOT SOME INDEPENDENT JUSTICE GROUP, we help the world peacefully, through good deeds, and not by wreaking our own views of justice upon society...

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