Well... ive been forced to do a english oral task for school and my topic is a negative argument towards "video games induce violence"
just wanted some opinions buuut~...wasnt sure what board to throw it in...

I see potential in this topi of discussion. It belongs here, I think.

I think this has already been created somewhere else

I'm working on the same thing at my school. I've got to write a 5+ page essay about whether or not "violent media influences social violence" P.S. It doesn't.

i read this part of an article...

Recent video games reward players for killing innocent bystanders, police, and prostitutes, using a wide range of weapons including guns, knives, flame throwers, swords, baseball bats, cars, hands, and feet. Some include cut scenes (i.e., brief movie clips supposedly designed to move the story forward) of strippers. In some, the player assumes the role of hero, whereas in others the player is a criminal.

looks like they only looked at gta and decided to shit all over the games industry

Just from personal experience, I play a lot of FPS' and such, and I have never had the urge to actually hurt someone because of that experience. Maybe they make me mad, and I want to punch them in the face, but I have never said, "Hey, I play a lot of Counter Strike, so I should kill this guy..."

Basically what I am trying to say, is the bigger factor in violence is emotion, a lack of logic. Not experience shooting digital people.

well, i believe that this topic focuses more on the psychology induced by videogames rather than videogames themselves, and there is a lot of room for debate, so i think that this is main-worthy. also, >>1 negative as in "no, videogames do not make you violent"? or "it has a negative influence and makes people violent"

There IS a study called the matthews videogame study that proves that playing a videogame that is violent stimulates the aggressive part of the human brain, making them more likely to be violent than usual. this does not, however, mean that this inherently means that violent videogames makes you more violent yourself. i think that anything that you do is due to your own perception of the things around you. just because you take a violent videogame as a green light to be violent does not mean that it was the intended effect or that a majority of the people playing will also feel this way. it's an individual thing. personally, i find that violent videogames are a good outlet towards alleviating stress and pouring your aggression into a more, maybe not positive, but certainly into something that isn't negative. i think that if you get rid f violent games, you will have MORE issues with violence than if you were to keep them, the difference would be, in my opinion, that there would be more incidents of violence to a slightly smaller degree than less cases with higher amounts of violence. I can not personally prove this, but it just sort of makes sense to me.

i dont think it introduces violence when ppl follow the rateing but if exposed at a young age then yes that person will become vioent, so they should always follow the rateing

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I played those games at a young age. Games LIKE that, and yetI didn't turn into a violent sociopath.

It really depends on how you're raised. Not the game(s) in question.

If you're raised in a broken family, of course you can easily be corrupted by outside sources. But it isn't the game's fault, nor the creators/publishers of these games, fault. It's the fact you weren't raised properly to begin with.

>>10 not only that, but the people form the outside looking in who claim that these games are making people violent or introducing sexual themes to the children who may be playing them have not even played the god damn game. they just look at what MIGHT be happening. the first thing that comes to mind is the Mass Effect scandal on FOX.

though I don't like FOX in the first place and tend to ignore what is said by them, they DID manage to make many parents think that the game was about fucking blue sluts and not giving a fuck. what the developers REALLY offered was a story. "real" relationships between characters as they most likely would be if you presented real people with the life and death situations that they face almost everyday on the Normandy. The amount of trust that they put in one another when it comes to the survival of the group. i mean, if there is one thing i love about Bioware games, it's the realism of the people and the relationships that they have with one another depending on the specific events of their lives and the history of the world that they live in. Bioware games, no matter how sucky (yes, i even include D Age 2 when i say this) ALWAYS have this to some degree, and i really enjoy it. And this isn't JUST about Bioware. This ends up happening with a lot of other developers and games that come from the developers.

To the outside world, however, the only thing present in these games are shooting/stabbing people, hooking up with others, and other unsavory things that, rather than making the player appreciate the complications of the situations that they are playing through in terms of people and story and how they all connect, will make their kids a violent and horny human piece of shit that will inevitably probabaly end up beating up their wife before they are out of their 20's.

So, i suppose that the point of this rant and how it relates to the OP is this: a lot of the negative connotations of mature videogames comes from the observer, the people who do not and can not understand the intent of the game based simply on the fact that they have not taken the time to try to examine it and actually get to know it, but instead take one glance at certain aspect and immediately label it.

>>9 let me tell you somthing ive only played t-m rated games since i was two that is not what caused me to be so violent
its the fact that i hate humanity

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>>12 Please shut the hell up. This topic had a good discussion going, you're ruining it with your stupid.

>>13 Don't add to it by pointing it out. That never helps and just starts an even more heated argument.

WEll i don't care. My parents let me play rated M games and i'm almost 15.

I mean, games like Bioshock and COD they accept, since we can't really imitate anything from those games, me and my brother that is. We're smart enough not to.

>>14 helps by shutting them up, they wont know theyre a complete idiot unless someone tells them

Honestly its a ridiculous argukent. Its like saying playing cops and robbers make you violent. As long aw the parents do their job properly and give there kid a point of reference theres no issue. It shouldnt have to be talked about. Because there are many far worse thngs that can "induce violence"

>>16 Yes, that's the idea, do exactly what I said was going to happen. You just proved my point by arguing with me. You just want to have you opinion out there. If anyone needs to shut up its the people that think their opinions are more valid than others.

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You act like Misuto and Sleep don't know what the fuck they're doing or talking about. Now why act like that when it's a proven fact that they do?


It's people like you, who comes on, and tries to get all big in their britches by telling off people who actually make a difference on this site, that makes people wonder WHY they get so pissed off.

>>19 >>16 No, he had a point. I guess I didn't really have to say that since it was off topic, but I had to say something if I was to bump the thread. Just didn't have time at the moment for a thoughtful on-topic comment.

That said, most of what I would say has already been said by Kumo. It really is an issue of misunderstanding and flagrant misinterpretation - onlookers judge "violent" games by what they see and not what it could be. In the cases where people really were spurred on by video games to commit acts of violence, those people were already unstable enough that they would just as easily have been influenced by any other media. I'll admit though, some video games really do glorify violence and crime, but that's also why they have the "mature" rating - they expect the people that play it to be mature enough to not emulate it. The people that are truly influenced by these games alone are so few in number that it's not even a real issue.

There is a distinct difference between inducing violence receptors in the brain, and becoming violent yourself. Psychology teaches that the brain is very impressionable, or that it is easy to become influenced. This means that at the time one plays the video game, your brain takes that information and creates a reality to match it. Once the game ends, your brain begins to revert back towards whatever is most prevalent around you. Similar to how adrenaline prepares you to either fight, or run. Depending on the mentality of the user, the time it takes to come off a "video game high" differs. There is no evidence however to suggest that it leaves a permanent mark on the brain.

With that in mind, some studies say different, but one has to look at the environment the video game user lives in. Like previously stated, the brain is easily influenced. If someone lives in a violent household, their brain grows up with that as the norm. Add a violent video game, and you get a rather violent child. The cause however is not the video game, but the environment.

There are however cases in which children who come form rather pleasant upbringings turn out rather violent. This is where endocrinology comes into play. This is the study of hormones within the body and how they act. One of the things I mentioned earlier was that depending on the child, different amounts of time are needed to come off of their "video game high". The main contributor to this is hormones within the body. One could argue that genealogy also plays a factor, but the results are the same. Hormones react to specific stimuli, and depending on the individual, sensitivity is either greater or weaker. This suggests that those whose hormones are more sensitive to certain objects are genetically predisposed to becoming violent.

In all, to say that video games themselves are what contributes to increased violent actions is incorrect. Multiple outside factors have an equal, if not greater role to play in a child's violent actions.

video games do have age limit, if u are old enough, they belive that you have a mature mind to control urself, make sense?

>>22 I know that. I can control myself though. Granted, I have a Grand Theft Auto game but i don't play it at all!

My brother does, but he's smart enough not to imitate anything from the game.

>>22 tell that to the parents buying their 12 y.o. god of war

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>>8 All he said in the study was that the games stimulate that part of the brain, right? It has so far no evidence of the games being the 'cause' of violent behavoir, nor any direct connection between how one chenneled their anger other that atimulation. Quite frankly, a lot of people use violent games as a safe outlet.

meh. anyhoo, i agree with Kumoz on >>8 there

yes, i see them as stress relief, i have my fair share of violent or 'disturbing' videojuegos. Actually, they induce more stress on me when there is a major bawss that i know im nawt gonna kill in one try. But when im done playing the game(s), that huge amount or -fear- stress completely belittles my pre-stresses/stresses before the game and i suppose that helps in a way. :T i hope that makes sense. but violent videgames influencing violence? not at all, in fact it depends on the person, as whoever and wutever were saying up there ^

>assumptions.

There has been like, a gazillion studies performed with concerns towards media violence, from both television and video games and whether there is a link between them and violent behaviour. I could dig a few up if you'd like? There's a lot of contradictory evidence on this subject matter, so it's hard to say whether there is a true link or not though.

Honestly I think any real danger it could cause is overdone. I mean if I play a game where I'm bashing a guys face in doesn't mean I'm going to go out and do it. The danger threat I think is a minimal ans that's what the age level is for.

>>29 Even with all the studies, it depends on how one individual processes information, and how they think. I don't think you can acurately say games make people as a whole violent or agressive.

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I find this topic super interesting since I work in the games industry. I'll start off by laying out the facts before I start waxing lyrical on my thoughts on the subject.

1. Nobody has proven anything more than a corrolation between violent people and violent games. That is to say you can plot the two things against each other and get a nice line going up, but it doesn't prove cause an effect. Violent people might just like violent games more and thus consume them.

2. Video games do stimulate the 'addiction center' of your brain causing endorphins to be released and causing your brain to make you feel good for having completed a goal within the game. This is true of anything that is 'psychologically addictive' rather than 'physioligcally addictive'. It's the same bit of your brain that deals with reward and punishment, just like if you rewarded or told off a child.

3. Doing violent to 'blow off steam' doesn't acctually deal with the root problem; psychologically speaking it causes more long term solutions than problems as it desensitises the brain and eventually leads to the need for more activities for the same effect. Put simply, if you punch a pillow, it's not making you any less of a violent person.

4. Age ratings on games are created to protect everyone; but publishers are -never- ethical about who the advertise for. GTA might have an age rating of 18, but the target demographic for the advertising is DEFINITLY under that. The is especially noticable if you look at games like Dave Mirra BMX XXX. It was aimed squarely at a market that couldn't legally buy it.

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And now we venture into the lands of my own oppinion.

Advocates against violent games have pretty much all the pieces to prove that playing violent games is bad for you; but as of yet no large independant study has conclusively proved it.

The reason violent games are different to other kinds of violent media (movies/ect) is because of the 'teaching' reward cycle in them. Since they fire pretty much all the same bits of the brain that classic learning does; there is this concern that players really are learning that getting 100pts for killing a hooker is normal and encouraged. Currently this isn't a big deal but as games get more and more realistic it's becoming more like that even a developed mind could be 're-trained' by the reward mechanics in a game.

Publishers currently have a totally terrible attitude towards the whole subject. They target games based on how to sell the most copies and don't really have much sense of ethics asside from what is forced on them by regulation. Publishers for example, will do anything in their power to drive the age rating of the game down so they can sell more copies (Wal-Mart won't stock an M rated game). So I think the games industry still needs more open criticism about it.

In their current state though. I don't think games can teach anyone to be violent any more than they can teach kung foo, how to play guitar, how to handle firearms or what to do in the zombie apocolypse because they are designed to be FUN. Not to teach people things.

>>26, yes, all they did was use a PET scan or something to see brain activity in certain areas. half the participants played a game considered to be non-violent and saw that it caused activity in the area of the brain linked to puzzle solving and the likes, the other half played a violent video game, and the scans showed that the area of the brain linked to aggression had more activity.

I play all games, including violent and non-violent games.

>>8 >>33 These 2...Nothing more to say since they explained everything The way I see it

I'm a pacifist, a bad one but still, i play violent games nonetheless. I don't think i have any 100% nonviolent games considering in harvest moon you can hurt animals and in pokemon you're knocking wild animals unconsious.

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I did a lot of research on this topic, mainly for an essay about this, and the main basis of arguements are parental myths like "They cause my kids to be killers". The fact is that it isnt true. Violent video games cannot be banned altogether, but in some countries certain ones are banned from playing. None in america but still, it is an issue parents try to stop. However, Violent Video Games are protected under the first amendment, since we have the choice to play them and only our parents can prevent us from doing so. The government has no authority to do so.

Let's put it this way: If you remove Violent Games, you'd also, based on w/e argument you use to justify it, will have to remove Violent Movies, and I believe that while while Comedies and Dramas can be fun... to much of those would cause more people to die from suicide then being possibly brutally murdered

wow, how did i not see >>33? maybe i just was doing something else and didn't have the time to read it all...

in any case, i wish to offer a rebuttal to your opinion section of the post. very seldom does a game offer you a reward for "killing a hooker" or the like. GTA does not make it a norm. usually any sort of reward you get for killing anyone in any kind of game, even kids games, comes from killing an enemy that there is usually a reason for killing, be it anywhere from self defense to "this guy is going to blow up the whole god damn planet!", so i feel that the whole "reward" argument is flawed, as a lot of the time these rewards are for doing something wrong, but for an acceptable reason. now, i can see where you're coming from, as not everyone playing interprets the content the same way, but rather than blaming the reward system, it is just more of that individuality factor that seems to always come into play.

I can see your point about the publishers though. Since they rarely deal with making the games themselves, all they have to worry about is sales, and trying to get the developers to adjust the content accordingly (also, Wal-Mart DOES stock M rated games, but not as many as other stores. Perhaps it's a regional thing, but i feel like that has no effect on content). What i disagree with on the subject is that you are saying that they are making them violent in order to increase sales. That's what they're doing in some cases, but you make it seem like the bloodier games are getting through only because the of the publishers, so it seems like the violence reaches extreme levels. what the real focus should be is the popular culture of the places that these games are being marketed at. there's a reason these games are selling so well, and why these games are being made the way that they are. I understand that what you were trying to say is that the publishers are not helping the issue, but adding fuel to the flames, but i feel that it is a somewhat unavoidable consequence of the culture that we live in.

Aside from that, i personally do not believe that games TEACH you anything, but what the fear is about all these violent games isn't about what is being taught, but rather what is being inspired. you said that games do not teach kung-fu, guitar, etc... and while i was readin that statement, i was silently agreeing with you. until i REALLY thought about it. obviously, the first thing that came to my mind whne you associated guitar with videogames was Guitar Hero. while it is not a violent game, and thus not a targeted game when it comes to the anti-violence campaigns, but playing Guitar Hero inspired me to learn to play guitar. the skill required to play the plastic piece of shit was pretty high, so imagine trying to play a six string 22-fret monster must be ridiculous. This is more of a personal connection that i have made, and i have never really made it with any other game, but again that individuality factor comes into effect, so who's to say someone hasn't sat there and said "man, this was tough in the game, imagine the challenge in real life!", or adversely "wow, this is easy, i could TOTALLY do this in real life1".

again, i do not feel that violent games when on their own cause aggressive or violent behavior, but there is always the chance that someone may think or process information differently than most people, and certain circumstances may line up that causes a random person to commit a violent crime. It's a definite possibility. The problem just is not nearly as widespread as most people think it is.

I like this topic. I hear it brought up alot, but i've heard about alot of scientific studies that disprove the theory that violent video games make you more violent. To the contrary, they actually calm you down and offer an outlet for your anger, though it depends on the game since some can cause more anger. Video games arn't bad and my kids will be playing M games from a young age. Though i'm still a few years off from that, possibly more.

Violent games are pretty entertaining, but they're probably not good for most audiences. It can be like, a negative influence. Reasons they stopped showing cartoons like Tom & Jerry and The Powerpuff Girls for dumb kiddie shows? Violence. Parents didn't like seeing Jerry serving Tom bleach or Blossom punching the lights out of Mojojo. :/

So it's like that with games. Parents don't like violence because it's a bad influence on their kid, right? No matter how old.

What am I talking about, I'm sorry. XD Good luck on your thing.

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Sucks that has to be a negative argument XD ive been playing video games all my life and i dont see how its made me a violent person. im actually super calm XD but i can see how it would affect people; in COD, you cheer when you kill someone, but in reality you cry when people die.. Who knows, i always thought video games made me smarter, Pokemon taught me vocab and Latin root words, Fire Emblem's taught me strategy and critical thinking, and Legend of Zelda taught me how to be a hero ^-^

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Im with Harukaze here. I've only gotten in one fight in my life and it was because I was taking up for a friend that was being harassed. Video games have taught me to take up for the weaker person and be a hero. I've never had a negative thought from video games

I can tell you from experience, Violent games do not make a violent person. If you ask anyone who knows me, I'm one of the most calm and relaxed people there is. I've played all sorts of violent video games, BF3, SH2,all sorts of stuff but I've not once considered doing what occurs in the games. I also find a lot of my friends play video games as a stress reliever. If they didn't play those games they say they might have done something drastic. Hope this helps!

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I'm a big believer in free will, therefore, I don't believe anything can ever really make you do something you do not want to do.

I've also played violent video games since I was younger, and it has never made me want to attack someone in any way.

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>>52 Thank you for contributing to the conversation!

There is a FAQ thread right below this one, please take the time to look over it. You'll find your answer there.

I don't think gaming influences like that~

you can say that video games do that but then youl have to say that tv andmovies do that to but they all so bring you a sense of moralaty you from all the super heroes cop shows and that stuff

Absolutely not, I've been playing violent games since forever - started playing GTA when I was 7 and spent the majority of my time playing voilent games yet the number one thing I don't like is hurting people, seriously I'll want someone who's really bugging me to get hurt but I'll never punch them. It's just bullshit devised by sheltering suburban mums

Violent games is only bad if people who are way too easily influenced, but thats the same thing with everything. Just because you pressed B doesnt mean you will want to go kill people.

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As someone who quite enjoys some video games myself, I think it's stupid to say that video games are solely responsible for inducing violence. Firstly, violence is seen everywhere, whether it's in films or TV shows, and it happens in the real world too. The important thing is that the person playing video games doesn't allow themselves to be influenced. If they ARE influenced, that's probably got more to do with their upbringing; if they had been properly brought up, violent games wouldn't affect them. I've been playing mildly violent games since I was like nine years old (and I do mean mild), and over the past few years I've seen some very violent films/anime, and yet I don't go around thinking it's okay to kill people. It's not up to the game, but to the person playing it.
That's my opinion anyway.

Video games don't really affect how violent you are. How do I know? I'm one of the most violent people in my group, I hardly play video games at all. One of my guy friends who plays them all the time isn't violent at all. It's the person, not the game.

Ugh, don't feel like posting a long-winded argument over this. I'll let the squirrel do it, instead.

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I actually believe that violent video games (well, some) don't actually induce violence in most cases. If you already have violence, then that's why you probably bought the game in the first place. Why would you buy it if you didn't? Anyways, most violent video games usually actually release stress and give a release for violence which could have been used on actual people. Although, some video games do induce violence, like CoD. If there isn't a purpose really, all there is is violence and CoD and games like it actually induce anger, which leads to violence in many cases, but that is because of people, not the game itself. So, it's not really the game, but the people.

>>62 CoD doesn't induce anger :| I fail to see how that videogame is so much more dangerous than others.

>>63
They are just spouting shit they know nothing about, is all.

I play a lot of violent games, my most recent one is Assassin's Creed, and I find it a great fantasy, but I never did just go out and hit someone just because of 'Oh, I played Assassin's Creed, I should kill that guy." No, frankly, I'm a very passive person, and even as a kid I never struck a person, even back then I would play violent games (mainly to take out my anger on people that have hurt me). After I would play that for a few hours or minutes (Depends how angry I am), I would feel better, and just laugh. Though my grandma hates it...

I'm a gamer myself. I hate the suggestion that video games induce violence, because it's really not true. I believe that yes, there are some people in the world that can get too engrossed in the fantasy of a game world and may begin to think they are actually living it. But I believe those people are the type to be particularly susceptible to certain things in their environment and thus does not apply to the entire gaming population.

I think it's unfair that gamers are now labeled as people that may do violent acts under the influence of a video game; as gamers are usually some of the nicest and most tolerant people I know, and you have to be a bit unhealthy to actually believe that you are living in your video game world and can act without consequences.

>>63 I don't mean the game itself, I mean when
a: There's lag.
b: There are campers and such.
Trust me, I don't think that games themselves induce violence, it's the people who play it. And when there's lag.
I hate lag. Especially when nobody believes you died from lag...

I've studied psychology so I can say a bit about this. There has been correlations found between playing violent video games and causing aggression, but only on the short term. There have been no studies which have shown that video games cause violent behaviour in the long term.

The first thing to realise is that psychologists aren't demonizing video games as much as you think. The media is. Places like fox news for example. Many psychologists believe that the games act as an environmental trigger to a genetic predisposition towards violence. But then again, a lot of things can set these people off.

>>67 That happens with every game that works online, violent or not :T

In my opinion: Blaming video games for violence is like blaming spoons for obesity.

>>70 It was totally the spoons.

Totally the fucking spoons.

I think we should blame the forks, not the spoons

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The media just wants something other than the murderer to blame. Obviously a 12 year old with anger issues shouldn't play games rated M for violence/gore, but does that mean nobody can? I heard they tried to blame SquareEnix for Columbine because they played Final Fantasy VII (not %100 sure). If thats true, then its idiotic. It's like you can't tell a mature story without being a scapegoat for a massacre.

Im more into fantasy and paranormal things, and don't care too much about shooters or GTA, but saying nobody can play it just cause some crazy people did and wen't on a killing spree is stupid.

Not every child is a potential murderer/rapist/terrorist... I don't know why games are blamed for that. Why are games with even the slightest bit of graphical violence or gore prohibited for children, yet horror movies or thrillers are not? Because at the end of the day, a movie is more realistic than a bunch of pixels on the screen. In short, my point is this: DON'T BLAME THE GAMES, BUT THE PARENTS WHO FAIL TO PROPERLY EDUCATE THEIR CHILDREN. If you let your kid be educated by video games or movies, you're not a good parent, and YOU are to blame if something happens.

haha I remember my parents scolding me when they catch me playing violent games when I was little, yet playing so didnt really induced any form of violence into my system. My minds weird sometimes but Im actually anti-violence. I'm kinda known as the peacemaker at my place. Unless your a kid who got issues and actually do what the video game is doing then I think you shouldnt be playing it. Its like giving an emo kid a "happy" game instead of a "bloody" one.

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it actually depends on "WHO" plays the games... sometimes i really play those whenever i want to spend some of my free time... but they didn't affect even the tiniest part of my daily routine.. this only proves that violent games don't induce violence on ALL their players... duh?!? :P

viliont games only will make already viliont and stupid people more viliont, but not unviliont people. (sorry about the grammer in a rush).

Okay, here's a topic I can argue for a good decade!
As said by everyone else on the page, perception is what created the opinion that games would lead to a person's violent tendencies, but anyone that actually plays games knows very well that this is far from the exact truth, as the game just aided in a process that was already well underway and could easily have happened without the game's assistance.
However, there is a side to this that we keep skipping over that a lot of people of older generations wouldn't, and those are the simulators, which non-gamers will confuse for a game. The 9/11 pilots trained on simulators to an extent, and since the people that don't actively play video games wouldn't know the difference between a simulator and a game, they classify them as a device used to train people to do things that couldn't, and they look at Call of Duty in the same light as a Driver's Ed computer simulation program. But overall, I agree with the opinion that has been repeated by the gamers themselves on this very page: That video games are not violent, but humans are, and while the sane need a good outlet for their various irritations, the insane use this outlet to fuel an already corrupt mind that is beyond our saving. Violent video games needn't change, either to be more or less violent, but human beings need to refine their ability to restrain themselves when tempted into the slightest things. Just because a man is locked inside the gym closet with a woman doesn't mean he won't still exit a virgin, nor that he will exit as a killer, even if the choices are always present.

I also look at this opinion like the Dollars in Durarara!!. It started as nothing, and most didn't really pay it much attention, but it grew. Then, people started doing bad things in its name, and the good members of the group would continue to prove that the individuals do not speak for the mass.

Ugh, I feel like Izaya with his whole "I love humans!" speech now. I enjoy observing people waaaaay too much. >.>;

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'nuff said

wow what a pathetic topic

>>83 It's only pathetic because it shouldn't be a problem to begin with, yet people that don't play games decided to make it a problem by placing blame in a place it didn't belong. Also, if you are familiar with the term "One man's trash is another man's treasure," you should be fully aware that "pathetic" is a word haters made to feel good about themselves while they cry themselves to sleep at night due to lack of friends. I'm not trying to say you are one, but you certainly came off as one to me with that comment, and I may not be the only one offended in that sense. If you wish to avoid offending others at any point, adjusting your grammar to exclude that term may very well benefit you.
And now, I await the flames of rage from people as I get criticized for chewing someone out over 5 words... *Makes popcorn, grabs Dr. Pepper, sits in recliner.*

You should add that it is not just games that makes people go violence. Film can too. It is because of the fragility of humans psychology. For example, nolan's dark knight (my favorite movie btw), even if he didn't show excess blood, etc. There is at least one in colorado whose mind had been broken. It is all about humn's mind

Video games are for pleasure. Anybody who becomes or thinks violent because of them aren't mature enough to play these kind of games. They should know to stop if things are getting violent around there houshold and friends.Period.

*Video games are the DEVIL!!! When people play games, they go right out and commit any crimes they just played in the game, like rape, murder, drive-by shootings, car jacking, etc.! Just the other day, my nephew was playing Super Mario Bros. and after he was done, he went outside to jump on innocent turtles, and watch coins pop out of his ass!*


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I actually saw a Law and Order: SVU episode where they claimed that video games made them kill. But to me that's just total crap. Saying violent video games make people commit violent crimes is like saying that watching superhero movies will make you go around saving people in a cape!

>>87 define crime! Is clicking and swaying mouse in front of monitor a crime?
>>88 totally love your analogy

>>89 Thank you, I try.

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I play violent games whenever someone pisses me off so that I don't go punch their lights out. I play them so I DON'T do what is shown in the game. I've played GTA since I was 6 and I don't have and major violence issues. Have I had violent thoughts? Yes. Have I ever followed through with any of my violent thoughts? Of course not. I just came home and shot a few people in my Jak 2 or 3 game or punched the lights out of ninja in my Naruto games. It relived my stress and thoughts and I was able to get over it and see the person no problem the next day.

My point is if you're taught not to imitate things then violent video games can actually be very helpful, and the people who claim it makes you more violent may be right to a point, but it will most likely not make you go out and kill someone.

>>93 Good point.

I'm pretty sure if I didn't play violent video games I would kill everyone I know for entertainment.

Now I'm just picking and choosing which threads will flourish on top. I figure it's a waste to bump up thread that'll never be discussed.

Violent games are pretty cool. I mean, what is a game without a little facepunching? Well... it's still a game, but whatever. :D

still depends on the person playing the game, whether he decides to copy the game ang punch everyone he meets in the streets LOL

True, bro. So true.

Violence is program into human beings but violence in games is a problem when the gamer takes into the real world.

It all really depends on the person and if thier easily influenced. If you have a strong mind then im pretty sure if you play GTA your not gonna be influenced by it but if you are the your probably gonna do something stupid. The same goes for any form of media really, But responsibility always falls on the parents, they sue people or companies so they have an excuse for being irrisponsible

I agree with >>100 and want to add is that a game may only have a little violence in it and be blown out of proportion. It's not the game but how you interpret it. I think it's the parents choice to see if the games their children are playing are appropriate for them.

i like violent games and people can take it away because they don't
like it

People argue that violent video games inspire violence in children, but if that were the case then one could argue that Spongebob can makes children dumb. Children don't readily mimic everything they see. All games are built on two basic templates: "clearing the screen" and/or "collecting/building things". I guess you can use that in your argument.... I wish I could be more help.

It's one of the oldest arguments since gaming became popular. Some people say video games make you violent others disagree. Personally I'm kind of in between. Yeah if you're immature enough to copy something you see or do in a video game then yeah. But hey people should be able to know the difference between a video game and real life.

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Kids aren't smart. so yeah, if you let your kid watch violent videogames they're going to figure that you approve of violence as a way to get what they want. they're still learning- they're going to try to learn from everything. kids are sponges.

i think its more the parents' approval of the game (and its contents) than the actual game itself, that's the worst.

Check out "bullshit" with pen and teller, watch the show on this topic, and you will have a lot of places to start looking for information and topics of discussion. I happened on it a month ago, their arguments were pretty valid. Give it a shot.

well, children really need to stop playing violent video games, because it really has a major effect in the mind.

In the UK "England" we have laws that you can not sell 16 or 18 rated video games to to kids who are underage, but this does not stop their parents buying it for them.

I know in the US it more of a suggestive rating system for video games as it goes against freedom of speech.

>>100 & >>102 I agree, and it also cloud be that the person who was playing the violent video games may have some unaware metal/physiological probelms.

You can consider the already present influences of the child. The child could just be violent naturally.

I think the idea that violent games make children violent is complete rubbish. Unless you're a psychopath to begin with, what you watch or play or listen to does not shape your behaviour.

I think violent video games really aren't that bad honestly. I was what 6 years old playing GTA. It all depends on the kid playing the game. I played GTA when I was little and still today I do, and I have top grades in my class and excellent conduct and effort.

Personally I don't believe violent video games necessarily influence children to do such things as seen in these violent video games.

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I don't think violent video games increase violence. I know that's a common debate, but I've been playing violent video games all my life, and I'm no more violent than anyone else I know. And half those people don't play violent games. Hope that helps you on your project.

I had to the same thing for a current events project. Thou I believe that video games don't make kids violent. When I was doing research for the project, I found articles of people acting out action from the GFA games. But there was nothing proving they did that because of violent video games, or because they felt like. Not sure if helped or not but good luck.

I go by a simple theory: a virtual violent object can be no more violent or dangerous than the same thing in real life. For example, guns. A gun in a video game cannot hurt or kill an actual person. But in real life, a real gun can easily harm a real person.

I've been playing Grand Theft Auto since I was young, I never wanted to legitimately kill someone or steal a car. I think it's not so much the violent games but other factors that make teens go off the deep end. I think that just blaming video games is an ignorant and stupid idea. Only one person is responsible for their actions and that is themselves.

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