I hope with everything I have that the World doesn;t come to war, but with the way the U.S. government is acting, it's starting to seem inevitable. I must ask you, my fellow Dollars, IF it comes to war, what will be our place in it; will we take sides, will we come out of the shadows and form an army, or will The Dollars simply fall apart? What's your opinion?

We should come out of the shadows and fight! Show the true power of the transparent army!

if it came to that im with my brothers and sisters the dollars but im just one man

"The Dollars Battalion" Lol!

Apparently we as citizens of our respective countries will inevitably either:
1. Be patriotic dogs of the state and fight
2. Be the ones to complain about how the war is useless and attempt to do something
3. Be the majority and do absolutely nothing
I say this not say you are all weak people, those are really just your only options. Everything outside of that is merely splitting hairs, going deeper into the three options without even realising it
As a group, i truely believe there is no huge thing that can be accomplished, we are spread to thin, and by this i mean a single thread of an entire blanket laid out as far as possible.
thats just my thoughts on the matter, everyone entitled to their own

taking sides is overated, staying as we are only seems natural, unless you feel people are bad because where they live i see no reason why the dollars would fall apart if the contries went to war

War IS inevitable, to take sides is to participate. The Dollars will not probably form an "Army" We could be vigilantes though.

We could be like those monks. We can sit in the middle of the street and set ourselves on fire in protest. :D

im from the us but im not fighting a war for the u s im with the dollars i will do what thay disde

I'm a dollar. Ill do what they want and if they say nothing I will become a vigilante. Some robin hood kinda stuff.

Since I'm a Dollar, and we're supposed to be "good", I'm gonna do whatever I think is right. Screw the war! It'd be cool if we could stand up though... Like, real cool! But... it's all in the fantasy~ Kinda impossible... haha! It's like, if we stand up and act like a big army, I'm afraid we'll die first... xD So yeah, just do whatever is right, that'll be the best already.

i hate war no one needs war

>>11 Not to mention the army wouldn't be all that 'big'. Dollars, in reality, aren't some huge powerful organization. Hell, it's not even that organized. It'll be very difficult to all come together to pull some 'outside force intervention' stunt. Even if we did, I doubt it would be very effective.

We're Dollars not everyone else. We'll just hide in the shadows because we help and not be known or seen. We are the Dollars not the rest of the world.

Why dont we want to be seen? Thats not why we're setting ourselves on fire~

so do what we can from the shadows but can we do somthing to prevent a war

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If war comes we could stand in the shadows & watch,or we can stand in the shadows & help silently without anyone knowing.

I will not stand for a side. I will simply do good and carry out our motto.

I wouldn't want to get involved in wars or what ever.

Why the FUCK would you bump this?

>>22 Why the fuck not?

I wouldn't give a shit and live my god damn life. If they destroy something important to me (aka. My computer or friends), THEN I would give a god damn shit and take part of the war.

hey,hey we are all brothers and sisters.
RIGHT

>>25 I'm sorry, I don't believe I know you, intimately or otherwise. And I'm pretty sure I'm not related to you, blood wise. So no, we're not brothers and sisters. We're just people on the internet who may or may not get to know each other.

in the current systems, them being capitalism, monarchy, communism and its derivates, war is a reality that is unnavoidable, because war is born out of divisions, and disrespect, as long as the people of the world keep believing they have to keep an allegiance to their family, their religion, their sports club, their chosen sport, their city, their state, their country and any such, instead of pledging their allegiance to the world and the human race as a whole and as a ecosystem war will always be innevitable, so will be poverty, so will be unnecesary deaths, and a lot more of the "evils" of the human world. and I for one choose to become a Dollar in a personal effort to stop that in my personal life, I have no skin color, I hold no beliefs that will make me go into a personal war against anyone else and IF I where to get into a fight with anyone I will make sure I enjoy it enough that no ill feelings last after the fact (and by fight I mean with words, with things I like, and even fists) so even if I were to fight with any of you on any one of these threads, I bow to keep no ill feelings on any other thread. this is me trying to change the world begining with me and giving you the chance to see, and choose, if this path of mine is one you would like to choose for yourself too.

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>>30 Shalalala Bump Bump Bump Bump Bump Bump!

During a war, as dollars the best thing we could do is don't lose our minds, help in controlling the panicking people and bring them to safety. Being involved in a fight would seem suicidal. We, as normal people are no match against professional trained military men.
A real life war is no where near similar to those you see in Hollywood or in call of duty.

if it does come to it. it will unite us and bring us even closer than ever. we will not take sides but we must do what we can to survive the onslaught.

i don't get why the Dollars don't want to be known i mean like in the anime they were known >..> and if war does happen we should help the people affected by the war >.> like The Dollar givers or something xD

we do the actions behind the scenes

we will NEED to come together, but like Micrid said, we will also need to stay hiddin. a secret army? might sound stupid, but it could be a good option... what do yo all think?

i agree with morda

>>32 finally a reasonable person enters this thread. First off, we are spread out around the world. We are completely divided and, as Lux said, it would be suicide to fight, even if all the dollars came together. our role would still be on the community level. We would protest the war, support and protect the people in our communities(if it means a fight or two, then we would fight out of self defense), and push the governments for peace. I doubt even 1/20 of the people in the dollars are trained soldiers so fighting is out of the question, unless we all have a death.

No.
Even if we are a group we shouldn't do this.
It'd be big trouble for us.
Imagine if we do this.
We would be no longer anonymous,if we go there alot of us might die.
This isn't an Anime where all goes peachy and nice.
This is a real war and nobody wins.
Listen,We'd be exposed to more of the media we would be shunned we would be in danger.
This is just a speculation of what would happen.
The Dollars in real life may be disbanded because of such negativiness.
Happyness and peace is what we're about right?
i know we should make people happy but we are of peace aswell.
If we do this....it'll be most likely a disaster.

>>1
we fight. There is nothing else to do.
after all, this group is to change the world, right?
Well, we'll certainly change it.
Training?
Not too hard, if you find the right people/groups. There are groups that are willing to fight but haven't because of their numbers. How many of us are there in the U.S. alone? Probably at least a few brigades or so.

Also, >>38, fighting only in defense shows weakness to some people. And it's unlikely that the government will tolerate constant demonstrations long enough for them too work.
And from all over the world? Most countries have groups that can help with getting those willing to fight to a central location.
Anyways, for myself, I'll gather as many of us from the "Shadow Army" and will take those who won't just be committing suicide into the fray. And if I can't find anyone. I'll go with only those of my friends who can fight. If that happens, look for something in the news about a group of young men and women who wear no uniform, who appear and disappear. And don't assume we'll take the side of the US. If the US is wrong, I'll fight against it more than I would any other country. Because the US lets too much happen for us too allow them to get away with war as well.
I know where to acquire/make equipment. Probably even some armored vehicles/aircraft.

For I do not Forget. I do not Forgive. And I will tear apart anyone who targets the innocent or weak.

>>32
A professional army isn't invincible. I will use many things a modern army can't to achieve my objective. No, this doesn't mean I'll use deadly gas or anything. What it means is that I'll use every unconventional tactic I can.
Example: A professional army has modern electronic equipment right? Solution--> EMP pipe bomb; fairly easy to make, I believe.

Also, I can gather most of the consequences of the actions of myself and those who fight with me to myself, reducing the likelihood of them being targeted as long as they aren't I.D.ed.
Search 'zero requiem'; something like that.

What I want to know is, who would fight with me? I mean really fight?

>>39
Not to mention that since the way the dollars work, one cannot pick a side as a whole.

So? We'll fight to stop the war, not for our countries. If you joined the Dollars and can fight, we need to muster our members.
I am an excellent tactician and know a few tricks about fighting several sides with better equipment and more numbers. Ex: take down their equipment using EMPs, smoke bombs, non-lethal devices, etc.

In a war, both sides do things that aren't right, so it would be hypocritical to take sides. But I'd want to help with peacemaking and try to work out it out as diplomatically as possible (that's my nature) before instantly declaring war.

Probably, i will be on the side of Dollars.We can change the world
standing together as a group..This is my opinion :D

most likly their will be a war. have you seen in recent years how some of the countires have acted? i remember a country was going to blow up its southern part just because of something childish.

There probably will be a war and it might not be just a war of strength as usual, but a war of wits. That's where everyone is right now.

I'm sorry if this comes out as rude but
aren't we of peace? why are we agreeing on joining a war?
we should stop this nonsence now.

>>41 An army, literally is not invincible. So, ok lets say you have your "easy to make" EMP Bombs. Do you really think the military has not assumed attacks like that? They have prepared measures against large scale bombardment, nuclear attacks, constant attrition but OH you have EMP pipe bombs and some people who are willing to fight for you. Thats just terrifying.

Let us assume that your aggression with EMP bombs and whatever stuff you have prove effective. But then. What can you do against mortar bombardments? What can you do against famine? What can you do against diseases that will accumulate due to the lessened medical activity during war? And there will be more problems arising aside from these. So what, EMP them?

Aggression is not always the solution to the war. A war is not always about guns, tanks, corpses and EMP bombs. If you really want to fight, formally get recruited to the military. Or look up "psychological warfare" instead of some zero requiem you picked up from anime.

To everyone:
Sorry for being so killjoy on your feelings of bravery towards protecting your country but this is the reality of war and Im saying all these in behalf of Dollars. Look at things as they are, not as your emotions color them.

And one more thing as what >>38 mentioned. We are all divided all over the world so chances are great that our countries would fight against each other. Thats the Dollars would fare much better in inspiring peace than participating in the chaos.

I shall never leave the dollars, unless forced to. I shall not take sides and highly respect the dollars members. I hope everyone else feels the same way.

I don't understand, what would you do in war? I think I might organizate big manifestations for stop it, even if it doesn't make anything. Well, we have luck to be in democracy, my country isn't one that would get in a war, I hope, the only war we had was in a dictadury, it's sad.
I don't want anybody to die in war, I would like to be utopic by thinking that the people can change that, but I certainly don0t know.

I don't think it would be best for the dollars to get caught into this...

Being an American, but also realizing the government here is not being good, I'd not take sides in this war I hope not to come. I also couldn't abandon the Dollars either.

War makes us learn things, and it helps us make anew world.

I think we've had too much war already... Besides, another war would be catastrophic.

War...? War never changes.

We will probably do what the Dollars usually do: nothing.

/sage

we should form an army of peace to stop the war if it happens, or a real army, win the war and make a world of peace once we win the war.

if the world goes to war we will most likely have a part but not fighting but trying to find peace in other ways if we do fight its not going to be with guns but with connections and other ways to fight because we are invisible like the dollars should be, not on the front lines killing we are normal people who want to fix the world not make it worse.

>>34
If we get more exposed they will see us as a teorrist group as most of the public think of us are.
It's wise not to join anything that'll expose us too much.
We are A secret group and should remain this way,since like i earlier typed,we do not want to be mistaken as teorrists and we may have to be disbanded or even worse we can be IP/ID tracked and interrogated by authorities.

>>58
I agree, that we should form army of peace. If we make real army, and go and fight, well, I don't think it is the best we can do. War can't be stopped by another war. At least I think it.

If I went to war I would not do it for me I would do it for earth cus i love earth and earth loves the ppl on it so why should we do it for are country do it for earth and I agree >>32 its not like call of duty, but we are strong just 1 person is strong WE ARE NOT WEAK WE ARE STRONG WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS SO WE HAVE TO BE STRONG WE ARE THE PPL THAT LOVE AND LOVE AND HOPE IS MORE POWERFUL THAN ANYTHING.

The Romans once did something like this; their economy was failing and their people were having a serious falling out, being emotional, fighting, etc. To end the unending civil war, the army went and killed everyone and called it peace. The End. cue the waterworks.

Honestly? This is a DRRR!! fansite. If you get drafted by whatever country you live in, then you're drafted. You'll take whatever side you want to and I find this somewhat stupid and irrelevant. Obviously you live in the States and you are living a peaceful life.

Seriously? "If it comes to war..." What are you basing this off of? Some little kid playing with the idea of war and "The way the U.S. government is asking..." God. Wishy-washy. Do you realize how pressuring it is to compete with other countries and keep things running? It's not so simple. There is /already/ war and strife all over the world in LDCs (Less Developed Countries). War is no new subject. And then again, little kid, have a stance for an argument.

"... or will the Dollars simply fall apart?" This is a /fansite/ made for the Dollars. Do you honestly think all the people on here will assemble or some shit like that to make a fairy-tale "army?"

You don't seem to realize in reality what war really is, what armies really are, or how you enjoy your fucking internet in the country you live in.

I don't think that it seems realistic that we could create an army because like Ko-Sensei said "This is a DRRR! fansite . .". Sure, we aim to do good in the world and share our ideas through the site but, our community is probably not big enough for us to create an army. Not to mention that probably half of us all out there are under age . . . . .

> I agree with you...

This is reality,,, there are some things that we actually don't know about reality... we get crazy ideas from movies and actually implant it in our minds.. conspiracy theories,, etc. Actually I think that it would be best to do good everyday than to think about the dirty works about this world... and also,, War isn't needed and never will be.. we must prevent it and do things that can't cause up anger, hatred, jealousy and etc evil things vice versa... :) That's all..

It is easy to hate and difficult to love.
This is how the whole scheme of things works.
All good things are difficult to achieve;
and bad things are very easy to get.
--René Descartes, French mathematician, philosopher, and scientist, 1596-1650

War is inevitable as long as humans exist, honestly, if the world goes to war, everyone will be divivded. It's hard to predict what anyone will do.

I think the best way we can do is prevent the war. We as a Dollars maybe can do something to prevent that. Its only my opinion.

we are Dollars i do not know what you guys are going to do but im going try to stop the war

now let me ask you. we are Dollars if i do try to stop the war will you help me or will i have to be alone in my quest?and if you wont help me why not? Dollars work as a group dont they? i want things to act in harmony. is that what you want to or do you like war?

I'm putting together a organization called the dark foundation. that I'm hoping will help stop war or at least minimize it. i have 13 mane members but just 13 people is not a good size to stand up to war is there anyone willing to join me.

Well, we can't just fall apart. We should work secretly.

that's why my organization is called dark it works in the shadows.

>>74 Is there a website or somewhere I can join?

I know you are all trying to do the right thing in keeping peace in the world and I agree with you on this, but what are people like us going to do about a war? I mean the armys are trained for this stuff, and if possible we shouldn't take anyside or fall apart, in saying all this I think we should all just hope that a war doesn't start at all

I think the only thing we can do is boycott it completely. That means no statements, no taking sides, no concern in any way. If we do that, they don't get the support for their actions in war.
I think that's the only good thing we can do.

Wow, I can't believe this made it back to the front page after all this time. I appreciate you all giving me your input, well, most of you; Ko, I do not appreciate your condescension, and if you're really a sensei, you should really try to explain things in a more positive manner. Back to the point on topic: the conclusion you've all helped me come to is that it is foolish to think the we as The Dollars could form an army, and even if we could, we shouldn't contribute to the violence; rather, we should continue to do what we've always done which is to help people from the shadows, and only fight to defend the innocent when they are threatened.

I don't know if someone commented something like this already or not, but if Dollars were to actually join the war, wouldn't alot of dollars members be fighting a war with each other?

We all come from different countries, so i'm not sure how this would even work out? Besides, in my personal opinion, i don't think that anyone should get involved in this type of thing as a part of the "Dollars" that should be your own independant decision.

>>74
ill join

well >>74 "no blatant advertising of other groups on these boards" please

sorry there's no website right now were u can join but i can make a thread on here for now and u can say that ur in on that for now un till i we can get a better way of talking

i`m join in the war!! lets show the power of te DOLLARS

dollars or no dollars im fighting

Come on, guys!
1) We want peace. Sorry, but i didn't know we are battle company.
2) We're from countries all around the world, that means, we'll create our new side. We will be against everybody and that isn't good idea.
3) No war has been raised yet, so why are we getting ready for fight?
I'm just interested in answers for my questions, it's still only my opinion.

Well if a threat of war ever starts. Our organization does have the power to help stop it with many members on all sides. any leader that see's this will realize many things. Mainly how they don't matter.

If war does start we are here, together we can stop it. As Dollars its our goal to show the world that it isn't as bad as we think. But if it come down to fighting i will take the side that all of us dollar's will take

well, if war breaks out, why don't we just attack prisoner camps and stuff

If war does break out I think somehow the Dollars will end it. I mean its bound to happen that 2 people from the opposite sides (Whatever sides there may be) will end up on this site and find out that whatever we happen to be fighting for, isnt worth the loss of a human life. No matter what I think its the dollars job to stay invisible but bring people together, through this site.

i get where you all are comming from with this war thing and we have to end it but think about it guys... for 1 most of you are talking about either joining the war and fighting (which is what is trying to be prevented) or talking about banding together to show our governments they are wrong (which in most cases doesn't seem to work). if we really did plan on taking action we would need a better plan and clearer motive to accomplish this. also the actions we take must also reflect our ultimate goals as well.

The world doesn't need war as a final conclusion of an argue. It's just simply wrong. If war ever erupted, I say we just bring everyone together, understand each other and try fixing things back to normal...War is just a political game for greedy men.

If we are unable to do something big why don't we just continue doing what we did now? It seemed to hae been working fine for now.
If it happens we shouldn't fight, we shouldn't reveal ourselves.
Isn't it more then enough to help like we do now? If we see someone being attacked, someone hungry, someone thirsty, someone sad we should just help them. War or not our mission stays the same. Bring happines with smalll things not something big like stopping the war and with our power that is impossible. So we just continue. We can comunicate if It happens, we can even meet if some of you want that, but nothing more since we can't actually do anything else.

sorry for the grammar
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and if there is anything else I'm really sorry

The dollars are not an army nor defensive group of the world, we dont fight, we talk, so we could never actually form an army, as well as it would risk the existance of the dollars, our cause is to save lives, not end them, and there has been war for so many years, the dollars stayed out of it, and very hopefully will for the next war(s). I know, maybe you're a soldier and you've been programmed to solve with either fighting or dieing, hell maybe you're an alien with diamonds for eyes, but we arent meant to fight under any circumstances, we have projects based around flowers for pete's sake, and we cant take sides, we're everywhere, surely there will be plenty of us on the non-american side of the war, I dont know if I can say the same for everyone of us, but I dont want to fire guns and slam bayonettes in the skulls of my brothers. And dont worry, a dollar never falls $.
~Grag

Even though we're the dollars, most of us came here from watching Durarara!!, and though there are a lot of us, we're only a small portion of the world, and we're probably also located in different parts. I wish we could do something, but I doubt we'd be able to take place in a war. We can do good deeds, but to take place in war... That's a bit extreme, is it not? We are invisible, and that seems to have worked out fine. Though, overall, I hope that there is no war outbreak, and I hope no one will get hurt.

Guy's honestly I came here because of Durarara too, but I think the design of the Dollars from that show was perfect. We are not an army, we are an ambiguous group.

And if we think it's in our best interests to involve ourselves in the events of the world then I say hell yeah. But keep in mind that we are individuals that owe nothing to this site or this group.

bump (:

Bump.

I think it might be smart to try to act as neutral as possible until we can figure out what's going on. War is incredibly complex. If were were to pick sides based on country many of the Dollar members would be pitted against each other. If we were to pick sides depending on demographic, this problem would be even more severe.

... We aren't an army or an activist group. Not many of us has military training so we cannot fight. We cant take sides like that as a whole. Heck we aren't even an organized group. But you can take a few members from the Dollars that agree with your point of view, and form a separate group under a different name. We aren't actually a group or gang or anything like that, so you cant just force everyone in the dollars to either participate or quit.

we may not be an army of weapons, but we are an army of words and actions. If we can change the minds and hearts of our friends, neighbors, and loved ones war may not happen at all

We may not have training, but i think if war happens like world war 3 that we all for a group in each country untill the time comes for use to.get together. Anyone who wants to I mean, there is enough of us. And training is just a madder of time, so you might want to see where in every state for a group to join,
Again only people who want to