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war good or bad? (188)

1 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-18 16:57 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

Is war good or bad? I've always asked that. Now I want to know what yall think.

2 Name: Kamikapa !gsaTjWquEI : 2012-01-18 17:39 ID:6jLAiZrD [Del]

BAD. Always.
Why would you even ask yourself that? Seriously.

3 Name: Leelou : 2012-01-18 17:47 ID:gqzCKxFd [Del]

To some it's good & to some it's bad.I guess it's you're opinon.
To me i guess I can say it really doesn't have an answer.It's never bad & it's never good.

4 Name: Tocashi : 2012-01-18 17:48 ID:mPckH0MJ [Del]

>>2 Totally agreed. Its so obvious that its bad. What kinda question is that? Did ya have a "dumb moment"?

5 Name: Black Haru!4Wf3m.ar1o : 2012-01-18 17:49 ID:ZG5CMOha [Del]

Hmmm, what good can come from war? I haven't seen much good come from war so far.

6 Name: Sayuri : 2012-01-18 18:32 ID:yUfVobFh [Del]

War could be good and could be good.

Economy gets better with war.

But people get hurt emotionally and our soldiers get sent out on dangerous missions, putting their life on the line.

Overall, war isn't great.

7 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-18 20:09 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

ok to people who say war isn't good lets say your home has been taken over and war was the only way to get it back. i do agree with Sayuri we do get hurt emotionally and brave men and women die or get hurt. but war is nesasary.

8 Name: Sky : 2012-01-18 21:29 ID:g1kuuXih [Del]

Famous quote from Niccolo Machiavelli "War cannot be avoided; it can only be postponed to the other's advantage."

9 Name: King Dude !zXqFpoplY6 : 2012-01-18 21:30 ID:MOniiH6c [Del]

I'm neutral on war.

10 Name: Umbra Serpens !T1rQ1UNnww : 2012-01-18 21:36 ID:TzE2UXLq [Del]

While war causes pain to many families, it is a form of population control. I don't think humanity would survive half a decade if people stopped killing each other. All the resources would dry up.

11 Name: Zeckarias !kjn0nYOOPw : 2012-01-18 21:46 ID:kwQ1mdIa [Del]

>>10 I strangely agree. To be honest I have only negative thoughts on the prospect of war and it's purposes, but when you think about how many people are wandering the earth mass murder doesn't seem quite as awful as it logically should.

12 Name: Sevow : 2012-01-18 21:49 ID:ntIlY43e [Del]

war is just a necessity of life, humans cannot live with out war, so war is neither good nor bad, i deffinately agree with warhorse and sky's comments

13 Name: Tha Ninja!!XI8GEi6V : 2012-01-18 21:49 ID:xTOoKAmM [Del]

Well, war causes order by fear. Even our Democracy has it.

Besides, it WAS the only method to stop Hitler from taking over all Europe, right?

I'm neutral to this becuz war is a double-edged sword; it creates order, and it causes resources to dry up.

14 Name: Shokua : 2012-01-18 21:49 ID:Il42u9k3 [Del]

I suppose war is neccesary if waged for a just purpose, but I still hate and don't think I could ever fight in one.

15 Name: Tha Ninja!!XI8GEi6V : 2012-01-18 21:55 ID:lzFxheb2 [Del]

>>13
HAY LOOK, I DON'T HAZ A SECURE TRIPCODE, SO PEOPLE CAN IMPERSONATE ME, BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH!

MY ID IS JUST DYNAMIC, OH YOU KNOW.

You should really change it, or I could douche around like this and people will think it's you. Security is a privilege, so use it wisely.

16 Name: *insertnamehere*!!mhJDjCwh : 2012-01-18 22:00 ID:YLWIAL85 [Del]

War. What is it good for? Absolutely nothing.

But seriously, war is needed, how else are we gonna control our overpopulation? We have medicine. We have peaceful solutions, to an extent. There's only war, violence. Derp.

17 Name: Yakarotzu : 2012-01-18 22:25 ID:qXmKKH91 [Del]

Without war the polutation of the world would sky rocket

18 Name: Lumen Serpens !/vLWmfl/gg : 2012-01-18 23:27 ID:yRlczmvr [Del]

Freedom isn't free, it has sacrifices just like everything else!
War and the loss that comes with that war is unfortunately that consequence!

19 Name: Niro_C : 2012-01-19 00:51 ID:5S3vs22P [Del]

War is one of those cycles that perpetuates the world we live in. Its like a natural order of things. We can say that war is bad and so forth. But its unavoidable. We have war with others and we have war within ourselves. To war is unfortunately the natural order of the world and is unavoidable.

20 Name: Dual : 2012-01-19 03:23 ID:H0n7hIiD [Del]

The world need wars, in this planet can live 200.000.000.000 peoples.... war = good

21 Name: sealand : 2012-01-19 10:25 ID:EQcnJhHh [Del]

hetalia is here

22 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-19 15:58 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

Niro_C is correct

23 Name: Date Masamune : 2012-01-19 16:12 ID:Qs8cs86B [Del]

@Duel You out of your f**king mind?! Wars will only lead to more.

24 Name: KazePhantom : 2012-01-19 16:21 ID:+Ouqymur [Del]

Human history is one of war. Conflict has and will always exist. Even if you don't believe that, it is true, and it is human nature, it is animal nature. You can't say with a full heart that war is bad, and if you say you don't support it then you're full of crap. Every American was crying for war after 9/11/2001.

25 Name: Bread!RTgBiSnMz2 : 2012-01-19 16:37 ID:lzFxheb2 [Del]

>>16 >>24

This, and this.
(Or that*, I don't know.)

26 Name: BarabiSama!!C8QPa1Mt : 2012-01-19 17:05 ID:KyDKp0Ks [Del]

It helps control the human population, so I don't really have a problem with it. I think some of the reasons for war are absolutely ridiculous, and war is often disgusting when you look back on things that have been done, but I prefer to look at such controversial issues in a more broad light rather than at the individual. Sure, that soldier had a hard, horrible time and then died; if that soldier was my relative, I would grieve and probably have a biased opinion on it. However, right now, he is not, so I can look at it with an unbiased, outsider's point of view. While there are a few reasons that I could probably point out as to why I think it's a useful thing, the population is the most dramatic one.

I, for one, don't consider it good in a rainbow-happy-pony-world sort of way. Rather, I view it as useful and necessary.

>>23 Wars don't lead to more people. Wars proudly kill people. In fact, they usually kill young people, often leading to less births in that generation.

27 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-19 18:28 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

>>26 that is the truth

28 Name: BarabiSama!!C8QPa1Mt : 2012-01-19 18:38 ID:KyDKp0Ks [Del]

bump.

29 Name: lex : 2012-01-19 18:46 ID:y9yfYS/m [Del]

no war is a good war. I don't care what the cause is.
no war is good. no matter how people justify things.

were going to war to protect the peace, ( F@#cken tired of that one cuz thats what every damn war says. just dont fight there you got peace. )

war helps the economy ( so i guess its okay to kill people so i not as poor as i was?????? .....)

wars to help with population control. ( that i find kida sick dude. its the same as this example

there once was a small town and there lived a dozen familys. all had a family of 4.
but one family had 7 kids. and the more kids threatened the town since they had a limited stock of food. so the Mayor and the rest of the town and went to that family, they took and killed the 2 youngest children for the good of the town.

now i don't care what way you look at it your taking someines life and slabing some sort of bullshit on it to call it right.

war is all about control and it will not ever go away until every last human is dead

30 Name: BarabiSama!!C8QPa1Mt : 2012-01-19 18:49 ID:KyDKp0Ks [Del]

>>29 Why is it sick? Would you rather let the world become so over populated that we run out of resources and everyone starves to death? The only other good way to kill off the population aside from war is to drop bombs on over populated areas, but I personally think that war, with all its cute little political justifications, is a bit more interesting way to go. However, if you'd prefer to drop bombs, go right ahead. Otherwise, enjoy starving.

31 Name: Bread!RTgBiSnMz2 : 2012-01-19 18:52 ID:lzFxheb2 [Del]

NinjaSama ಠ_ಠ

32 Name: sc13an : 2012-01-19 18:53 ID:M0dfeEv3 [Del]

war is nether bad nor good we go to war to protect what ares and take whats theres war has made the U.S and alot of countrys rich also war is how we fight for are freedom

33 Name: lex : 2012-01-19 19:01 ID:y9yfYS/m [Del]

@ barbi if it gets to populated a disease with break out and i by sure in hell rather die then let some one dirty there hand in killing innocent, that disgusts me. and yes war makes people rich so money is more important then peoples lives,

i understand if you fight to just protect, but there arnt many noble wars like that

34 Name: BEYOND : 2012-01-19 19:04 ID:uaDaayLn [Del]

Barabi-chan, i understand exactly what youre saying but still i think ypure a complete jackass about it. Lets see how calculating you are when something like that overpopulation thing happens to YOURfamily and you lose, say, a younger sister and brother with whom youre very close. I wonder just how WILLING youd be to give them up or let the town execute them "for the good of the village". Got cold feet yet?

35 Name: BarabiSama!!C8QPa1Mt : 2012-01-19 19:04 ID:KyDKp0Ks [Del]

>>33 So... you would rather slowly torture people by letting a disease spread around that kills everyone as they starve? Also, money isn't more important than lives. I don't who gave you or anyone else that twisted idea.

And by the way, war usually puts countries in more debt in the modern day rather than gaining them money. They only get money if it's an astounding success and the loser gives them money, which is, by the way, not America's style.

36 Name: Narukami : 2012-01-19 19:05 ID:F8hxu4+I [Del]

war i would say is bad because thousabds of people die and its really devistating. think back to WW1 many people cried from the deaths of many...

37 Name: lex : 2012-01-19 19:07 ID:y9yfYS/m [Del]

i messed up my wording i ment money in not more important

38 Name: BarabiSama!!C8QPa1Mt : 2012-01-19 19:08 ID:KyDKp0Ks [Del]

>>34 Be realistic. Killing one young person isn't going to help anything, first of all, and they would probably kill the sick and elderly if they were smart. Second of all, I would rather my brother be killed quickly rather than have all of us die slow and painfully from starvation or disease, watching my loved ones fall to it and torturing myself in the process, trying to decide between living well, living horribly, or killing myself so my family can live well.

39 Name: BarabiSama!!C8QPa1Mt : 2012-01-19 19:10 ID:KyDKp0Ks [Del]

>>37 The rest of my comment stands, then.

40 Name: lex : 2012-01-19 19:12 ID:y9yfYS/m [Del]

ture it not good to see someone suffer but i rather die natually them some one kill someone else and bring more hate in this world. were all diseased my hate enough as it is, and all this war will destroy everything,

41 Name: lex : 2012-01-19 19:13 ID:y9yfYS/m [Del]

>>39 oh and that money comment wasnt directed to you in the first place,

42 Name: BarabiSama!!C8QPa1Mt : 2012-01-19 19:16 ID:KyDKp0Ks [Del]

>>41 I don't care who it was directed to :V
>>40 So... you would rather see everyone you love suffering rather than let them die in peace?

43 Name: BarabiSama!!C8QPa1Mt : 2012-01-19 19:17 ID:KyDKp0Ks [Del]

>>42 If the suffering came naturally*

44 Name: lex : 2012-01-19 19:18 ID:y9yfYS/m [Del]

my point is not dieing in suffering in peace or not

my point is one has the right to take away someones life.

45 Name: BarabiSama!!C8QPa1Mt : 2012-01-19 19:24 ID:KyDKp0Ks [Del]

>>44 More typos? no one* And the fact of the matter is, we can and will be over populated if we don't have these things, in which case we can and will have diseases and starvation and a lack of resources. Someone has to die. Stop avoiding my question; would you rather they die natural suffering or in unnatural peace?

46 Name: BarabiSama!!C8QPa1Mt : 2012-01-19 19:24 ID:KyDKp0Ks [Del]

>>45 die from*

47 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-19 19:26 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

Hey Lex not to tick u off or anything but i rather die an honorable death in battle than a sickly one of old age

48 Name: lex : 2012-01-19 19:27 ID:y9yfYS/m [Del]

i rather some one die in peace but Drobing a bomb on someones house sure in the hell not dieing in peace,

49 Name: lex : 2012-01-19 19:29 ID:y9yfYS/m [Del]

war house that nos not tick me off, i understand and respect that. . we cant avoid it, war going to be here and to die protecting someone is better then droping a bomb on innocents

50 Name: BarabiSama!!C8QPa1Mt : 2012-01-19 19:32 ID:KyDKp0Ks [Del]

>>48 If they don't see it coming and they are automatically killed, sure it is. Plus, there are other methods. Like Warhorse said, if they feel that dying honorably in battle is good for them, then keep war. Let war happen. It's good; even you said it's better than dropping bombs. But you're going to have to drop a bomb if you don't have it, because going around and shooting people is even less humane because it's so... physical. You'd be too close to the person you're killing.

>>47 Believe it or not, despite being for war, I really don't like fighting, and I want to grow up to be a really old person rather than die in a fight. I want to be one of those annoying old people that throws their cane at kids sitting on their lawn, just because I can >D I'm probably sickly enough now that I'm not going to reach that age, unfortunately, but I can dream~ Anyway, I don't totally believe in an honorable death, but if that's a motivation for you, then good luck.

51 Name: Bread!RTgBiSnMz2 : 2012-01-19 19:39 ID:lzFxheb2 [Del]

I can imagine it now, 70 years later.

Barabi throwing canes at delinquents and calling them 'punk-ass kids.' Sounds like a peaceful life, I want to do that too, but I'm going to need a lawn first. :|

52 Name: BarabiSama!!C8QPa1Mt : 2012-01-19 19:41 ID:KyDKp0Ks [Del]

>>51 Oh god. For some reason, this sounds like it's going to be really fun. I better remember the desire to do this when I get old lulz

53 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-19 19:54 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

54 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-19 20:04 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

But still

55 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-19 20:06 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

War is war its neather good or bad it has its advantages and disadvantages

56 Name: Darasuum : 2012-01-19 20:25 ID:Ep/ZGojI [Del]

>>55 agreed. It is needed sometimes. What is good? What is bad? Deffine both.

Man is more united in war than in peace

57 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-19 20:36 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

>>56 smart man

58 Name: Ragus : 2012-01-19 21:33 ID:8lUMWu0x [Del]

i always thought it depended on what the war is about, and how it is being fought.

59 Name: Sirjj25 : 2012-01-19 23:01 ID:AUeW0PPi [Del]

Lol playing darksiders 1 when I see this (play as war) but seriously I would prefer ww3 over a planet wide utopia during war people have things and people to protect witch brings out true strength

60 Name: Hatash : 2012-01-19 23:09 ID:3j3/YRer [Del]

War is either good or bad, I prefer both oddly :\

61 Name: Camus!iyEWv6x.OU : 2012-01-19 23:18 ID:4O2lZ92U [Del]

War is horseshit.
We are born with the right to live--all of us.
Nobody, not one goddamn person, should be allowed to take that right away from ANYBODY.
Bottom line.

62 Name: Izaya xiii : 2012-01-19 23:25 ID:Oar6ppWd [Del]

i agree with camus we are all born to live simple as that and war its not needed yet in the world we live in its the only way to get by "/ it sukks kant we jus bann war :[

63 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-20 00:54 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

>>61 I do not respect ur language we all have the right to live but u can not escape war wither in the world in ur home or in u war is unavoidable no nmater what. There is no bottom line to war or peace they two sides to one coin with out one there is no other
.

64 Name: Taekwondo : 2012-01-20 02:03 ID:xTOoKAmM [Del]

Well, war causes order by fear. Even our Democracy has it.

Besides, it WAS the only method to stop Hitler from taking over all Europe, right?

I'm neutral to this becuz war is a double-edged sword; it creates order, and it causes resources to dry up.

65 Name: lex : 2012-01-20 02:17 ID:y9yfYS/m [Del]

ya it stop hilter but war what started that damn war in the first place :/

66 Name: lex : 2012-01-20 02:17 ID:y9yfYS/m [Del]

it did**

67 Name: Camus!iyEWv6x.OU : 2012-01-20 02:20 ID:4O2lZ92U [Del]

>>63 not trolling or trying to be rude, but is English your first language?
just curious.
and as for this: >>63>>64,
Sue me, I'm a romantic peace believer that wants everyone on this dying planet to be capable of logical and independent thought. Unfortunately, there are/have been millions of people who are NOT capable of such individualism and have allowed people like Hitler to rise to power in the first place in the past. If I do anything in my life, it'll be to at least push for the better world I know is possible.
PS: I sometimes type like talk, which is to say, with a lot of fucking cursing. My apologies.

68 Name: lex : 2012-01-20 02:44 ID:y9yfYS/m [Del]

i'm with Camus on this

69 Name: London Rose : 2012-01-20 05:10 ID:SfL/YoE6 [Del]

I've actually thought about this topic many times before and I always find myself torn over the answers that I come up with. I feel that war is nessassary, in order to help keep population down and provide a bit of a 'reset', more or less. But I still wish that it wasn't nessassary though. War brings death and sadness, and many other negative effects to everyone involved, and even to those who are not actually involved themselves. War brings out things that no one wants to feel or experiance. So when I add all the reasons why war is good and why its bad up in my head its hard to come up with an definite answer that has war as being a good or a bad thing.

70 Name: Tora-sama : 2012-01-20 08:17 ID:kRSg//em [Del]

War is never the answer. Sometimes, I wish people could at least try and find ways to settle their grudges against other countries peacefully instead of declaring manslaughter on one another.>:I

71 Name: Tora-sama : 2012-01-20 08:18 ID:kRSg//em [Del]

Unless if it's a gang war you're talking about, but still, same thing.

72 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-20 08:30 ID:eApHdwJe [Del]

>>67 English is my first language but Cherroke is my main one I'm not one of those hippie-dippie peace is better than war yes peace is good but war is necessary to have peace not everyone is logical but war has a meaning and so does peace as in you need war to when back a country when they won't give back the land they stole or took you out of yes war comes with heartbrake and suffering but if you fight the good fight it comes out with victory and peace

73 Name: EtZA lA RoBA : 2012-01-20 09:09 ID:LsBg4WAF [Del]

war is the only way to achive peace in this world because everyone has different ideals that they must fight over according to themselves so war is always the way to go according to our own society
give up you cant stop war

74 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-20 09:41 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

Gang wars r useless

75 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-20 09:42 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

76 Name: Masamune!Mjk4PcAe16 : 2012-01-20 10:04 ID:i5RueDyw [Del]

The only time war is necessary is if someone else starts it.

77 Name: Ulrich!tsGpSwX8mo : 2012-01-20 10:06 ID:i5RueDyw [Del]

>>76 I agree

78 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-20 10:37 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

Well masamune what if the ones you stand with start standing for the wrong cause would you start a fight against them ?

79 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-20 10:58 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

Right ?

80 Name: Ulrich!tsGpSwX8mo : 2012-01-20 15:40 ID:SJJ8eoBS [Del]

Masamune and I are Individuals whom have very good intentions for humanity so I think we would make the right decision even if we were with the wrong side.

81 Name: Novelist 47 (Kyu) : 2012-01-20 15:56 ID:E60REhnk [Del]

War is said to be a fundamental part of human existence. It originated from conflict, and every body is affected by conflict. In this sense war is natural occurrence in a sense, making it ... i dunno, good? Thats for you to decide. What is decided is that war is just 2 sides fighting each other, it is the actions within the war that makes it evil. e.g The Holocaust,

82 Name: Kon : 2012-01-20 16:42 ID:JQpEDY3A [Del]

War isn't inevitable, it's just us, using it as an excuse to not put aside our differences, and come up with a real solution to our problems. Granted, it'll soon be one of the only last "population control" tools we'd have, aside from limiting 1 or 2 children per family. But it's not part of our nature, and science agrees.

http://www.utne.com/Science-Technology/War-Is-Not-Inevitable.aspx

83 Name: BarabiSama!!C8QPa1Mt : 2012-01-20 16:54 ID:G0fpD7R/ [Del]

>>76 >>77 >>80 Why the fuck would you samefag during a debate?

76 Name: Masamune!Mjk4PcAe16 : 2012-01-20 10:04 ID:i5RueDyw
77 Name: Ulrich!tsGpSwX8mo : 2012-01-20 10:06 ID:i5RueDyw

Any opinions stated by you henceforth are invalid.

84 Name: Lex : 2012-01-20 16:58 ID:y9yfYS/m [Del]

busted

85 Name: Bread!RTgBiSnMz2 : 2012-01-20 17:03 ID:v5TXxcwm [Del]

Oh my...

They're the same people? Ulrich kept talking about him being his friend and whatnot, so I assumed they were real people.

I Lol'd

86 Name: Ulrich!tsGpSwX8mo : 2012-01-20 18:02 ID:802AQgVn [Del]

We are not the same person. you dumbass mod. He is a student from my school and oh by the way we both was on at school and it has the same IP address. He does not have internet because we have nothing but dial up back in our area. We are opposites he stands for good, I stand for revenge and wrath.

>>83 Make sense I thought so. So I suggest you think before you jump to an conclusion.

87 Name: Ulrich!tsGpSwX8mo : 2012-01-20 18:03 ID:802AQgVn [Del]

By the way: Name: Ulrich!tsGpSwX8mo : 2012-01-20 18:02 ID:802AQgVn [Del]

88 Name: BarabiSama!!C8QPa1Mt : 2012-01-20 18:34 ID:G0fpD7R/ [Del]

>>86 Not a mod, thank you very much, and I'd prefer that you didn't call me a dumbass and then agree it makes sense. It makes you sound like an idiot. And that is possible though strange, to say the least, but alright. I'll give you a pass for the moment :V And it doesn't matter if the ID changes later. Some IP/ID's change a lot, but if you make two consecutive posts it is often the same, while later posts are different.

89 Name: Sameshinzo : 2012-01-20 18:34 ID:sCx+fPk9 [Del]

It's bad, but good things always happen after one so...It's a 50/50 neutrale thing

90 Name: Every Blood : 2012-01-20 19:03 ID:bTrzoc3m [Del]

Bad . Why? Wars are made by people who want everything for themselves .. Since of spaces of land and so on. Or prove to be stronger than the other.

91 Name: Ulrich!tsGpSwX8mo : 2012-01-20 19:23 ID:9d2LbcXo [Del]

>>88 I might have overeacted a bit I admit but I recruited Both Yang and Masamune from my town. and I will recruit more and more of my closest friends until theyre are 10 members in my town

92 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-20 21:44 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

*sigh*

93 Name: Musei : 2012-01-20 21:57 ID:wpfvx/vj [Del]

In my opinion, I think war is just what you make it. It can be good or bad, it's entirely up to you.

94 Name: Sonicboom : 2012-01-20 23:24 ID:Hx5VGOXk [Del]

Bump

95 Name: Kohan : 2012-01-20 23:33 ID:Wy89lpO9 [Del]

War always has a revolutionary outcome to it, yes it's a bad thing for functioning society, but it is a sign of a changing world that is balancing on a thin line of conflict...

96 Name: Hikaru : 2012-01-21 02:52 ID:F2YE5UVU [Del]

War is bad...why you may ask?Because many lives are lost every day as a result for war.But we are all humans so we tend to make mistakes sometimes.For us,all of us,even non-dollars,forgiving someone is one of the hardest things for us to do.Please don't go rebel and say"Oh I can forgive people thats easy!"because face it...when was the last time a relative/sibling/friend/enemy did something bad and you forgave them?huh?!? So back to the main topic.As many lives are lost in battle,this lives are free.Here's a peice of advice:"Do not pity the dead,pity the living" -Albus Dumbledore The next time someone makes you mad or does something wrong,you should forgive them, because one day,YOU might be working for them.It also creates more peace in the world and less conflicts which means more time that actually matters...

P.S. If you are still reading thank you for taking the time to read this(I turn short topics into long essays/paragraphs sometimes)

97 Name: Blue Whale !2vaQd/4aYY : 2012-01-21 03:46 ID:8GHC2GYW [Del]

I wouldn't say war is good or bad, just a fact of life. People have conflicts, and those conflicts can't always be settled without a fight. That's just as true for two people arguing in the street as it is for nations.

98 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-22 15:01 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

>>97 is almost right

99 Name: Sleepology !4a6Vun8zuw : 2012-01-22 15:05 ID:ecwb1v5M [Del]

Question to war. Who are you to decide what is the right or wrong answer? Just curious, not as pissed as i may seem.

100 Name: Zeckarias !kjn0nYOOPw : 2012-01-22 16:07 ID:kwQ1mdIa [Del]

>>99 I'm assuming it's because his name is "Warhorse." Therefore he MUST be an expert!

101 Name: Masamune!Mjk4PcAe16 : 2012-01-23 09:44 ID:i5RueDyw [Del]

>>99 I agree.
The only thing that comes from war is a battlefield soaked in the blood of the people that thought that they were doing the right thing.

102 Name: PanebFire : 2012-01-23 10:07 ID:88so32JF [Del]

It can't be good.. Pepole killing other people - because of what? Money? God? I know that the god is important for someone but didn't he said don't kill? Money.... there is nothing good here - moneys make only peoples fight and let control society but... there is too much to write. Watch this movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gKX9TWRyfs

103 Name: Rock Angel : 2012-01-23 12:13 ID:r49Hbgt0 [Del]

war is bad but then again it can be good
War is bad because of all the deaths that happen and the many familys that have been injured about this
War can be good because the soilders protect our country from people who are able to kill us and if it was not for them this country can stay free

104 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-24 14:44 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

>>99 I'm not deciding anything>>101 more things come from war than blood and murder if you fight the good fight peace and calm will come out of it

105 Name: Pandora : 2012-01-24 15:03 ID:xJbE93K4 [Del]

My senior quote: "If we don't end war, war will end us." -H.G. Wells.

It matters little how wars start is that by the end many don't know what they were fighting for or about. Humans have always fought for anything and over anything. It's not likely to change.

106 Name: Ellesarath Moonsnow : 2012-01-24 15:06 ID:OxJDi7tR [Del]

I think war the question is far more complex than I'd like it to be - simply put the answer is no, always no. But I can see how our world might need war, primarily because we are far to many on the planet. Though I think there are *way* better sullotions to that problem :/ Either way I vote *BAD* (yay imaginary poll!)

107 Name: Crisis !JjfHYEcdHQ : 2012-01-24 15:09 ID:TnATDGwh [Del]

War in itself is definitely bad. But it's inevitable, and sometimes necessary. Sometimes when war is necessary, the results might now be a bad thing, like WWII. WWII was terrible, no doubt, but Hitler needed to be stopped.

108 Name: tachi : 2012-01-24 16:01 ID:IbwFNsCT [Del]

helloooo

109 Name: Marcy !IPLEVNCIlg : 2012-01-24 16:11 ID:jEL9tBX7 [Del]

The death and pain war causes is bad, and the fact that we as humans cannot get along dissapoints me, but without war and fighting... we would be taken over and our rights and freedome would be taken away.

Freedome truely, isn't free...

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111 Name: Masamune!Mjk4PcAe16 : 2012-01-25 08:21 ID:i5RueDyw [Del]

>>104 But at what cost?
There is alot more we can do to benefit mankind other than killing other people.

112 Name: Scythe : 2012-01-25 08:23 ID:t7uaAltN [Del]

war is good so much blood haha humans really entertain me thats all people are is entertainment for the world

113 Name: Kalidin !AnnC9ODlrc : 2012-01-25 08:43 ID:nXWWoUWa [Del]

war is just part of human nature good and bad dont exsist its just titles we place on stuff

114 Name: Scythe : 2012-01-25 08:49 ID:t7uaAltN [Del]

AH a person of understanding thank god hahaha humans are entertainment like i said for example this girl got her battery stolen from this boy Lol she flipped and i was laughing very quietly bc they think they would say something which thus making them go to conclusions xD fun fun fun

115 Name: Tishero : 2012-01-25 09:10 ID:1VeAmfKY [Del]

war is badass yeah

116 Name: JK Ralni : 2012-01-25 09:20 ID:MnZg3lVt [Del]

War is a dreadful thing. if all were at peace, all a single country, then there would be no problems. But, war is just too fun to pass up. *Evil Grin*

117 Name: Princess Bubblegum : 2012-01-25 10:15 ID:5vFalcHb [Del]

War is just awful. If we were all just one united world the world would be so much different then it is today

118 Name: psychochan : 2012-01-25 10:21 ID:Scdr0inJ [Del]

i dislike war, but without wars, we wouldn't have stuff like microwaves and other technology. (the microwave was created with the same tech as some sort of weapon i think...)

119 Name: Scythe : 2012-01-25 10:46 ID:t7uaAltN [Del]

i think war should kill us all i dont believe theres peace unless ur alone and thats the only thing u can trust

120 Name: Lunarous : 2012-01-25 11:27 ID:qL3tHE4Y [Del]

War is necessary but not good... kind of like using gas to power your car or eating meat.

121 Name: Marcy !IPLEVNCIlg : 2012-01-25 11:28 ID:TnQdT67M [Del]

>>117 can you please just keep using that name... only?!? If your going to go to the trouble of samefaggine, at leash have the deacency to not use my name -_-

122 Name: rio : 2012-01-25 11:53 ID:2an9pSp7 [Del]

bad this world would have a lot less war if iran fell off the face off the earth they are always causing trouble

123 Name: Princess Bubblegum : 2012-01-25 13:45 ID:5vFalcHb [Del]

I agree marcy. wait r u tlking to me 0.o

124 Name: fukushu-sha : 2012-01-25 13:53 ID:VYrlPZvB [Del]

i think war is a good thing, it lets us advance in all sections of science, but not a chaos war, a controlled war. nukes no bueno

125 Name: NaeBree : 2012-01-25 13:56 ID:oYw6B4Da [Del]

This belongs more on Random than in Main...~

126 Name: Shadowwolfcat : 2012-01-25 14:00 ID:eomZEob4 [Del]

I would usually say that war is a bad thing but....I have been thinking for a while and have concluded that it is in fact a good thing.Think about it.Humans destroy the environment,pollute and destroy everything in their path.We do massive harm to all other living species.Our number is dangerously high and food resources are both low and wasted.There are a lot of people who are suffering and a lot who just don't want to move their *insert word for lower part of the body here* around.How else are we going to cope with crisis?With hunger?With small space?Kill each other off,of course.I don't say we have to or that we must.I am saying that was is something natural that occurs when the human race is in danger.It has happened and it will happen.There is no avoiding it.

127 Name: sleepology !CHs4eVJ3O2 : 2012-01-25 14:10 ID:NHafoqVr [Del]

>>125 kind of, but its a legit topic of discussion

128 Name: Mael !DoMiNUIT9I : 2012-01-25 14:21 ID:g43ZPn4q [Del]

>>125 Oddly enough, most of the big discussion threads in Random, would have been perfectly acceptable to be posted in main... and vice/versa... unfortunately.

129 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-25 17:22 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

>>127 >>128 Sorry i didn't know

130 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-25 20:33 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

War did not spring up on our land, this war was brought upon us by the children of the Great Father who came to take our land without a price, and who, in our land, do a great many evil things... This war has come from robbery - from the stealing of our land."

131 Name: *insertnamehere*!!mhJDjCwh : 2012-01-25 20:43 ID:mVJK4Nn+ [Del]

>>129 Why are you sorry for?

132 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-25 20:56 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

>>131 they said this belonged in random

133 Name: *insertnamehere*!!mhJDjCwh : 2012-01-25 20:59 ID:mVJK4Nn+ [Del]

>>132 Who's they? Mael and Sleepology said it goes in Main. Look at the board description.

"Main Board
Important topics, overarching Dollars issues, and actual topics of discussion belong here."

The one who should be sorry is NaeBree for misleading you. Anyways, this is getting off topic.

134 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-25 21:12 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

>>133 ok

135 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-25 22:31 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

Back on topic

136 Name: Mael !DoMiNUIT9I : 2012-01-25 22:40 ID:g43ZPn4q [Del]

lol, sorry for the misunderstanding apparently... You were right in putting this here :V.

137 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-26 11:33 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

>>136 It's ok let's get back on topic war good or bad

138 Name: Kon : 2012-01-26 11:35 ID:JQpEDY3A [Del]

>>130 American Indian quote? ... well kind of obvious, but who said it?

139 Name: Krim : 2012-01-26 12:13 ID:XitQ6m4T [Del]

War is AWFUL! War only leads to death, which leads to sadness, which leads to hate, which leads to more war. War is a horrible thing that should stop.

140 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-26 12:17 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

>>138 i did

141 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-26 12:19 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

>>139 "There is no death. Only a change of worlds.”

142 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-26 15:16 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

"The idea of full dress for preparation for a battle comes not from a belief that it will add to thefighting ability. The preparation is for death, in case that should be the result of conflict. Every Indian wants to look his best when he goes to meet the great Spirit, so the dressing up is done whether in imminent danger is an oncoming battle or a sickness or injury at times of peace.”

143 Name: Mystery : 2012-01-26 16:56 ID:Jh40WYeo [Del]

"An unjust peace is better than a just war."

144 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-26 17:53 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

An Indian nation at peace and at war, who were forced to accept values that were so widely divorced from those of their own historic culture and way of life.

145 Name: Warhorse : 2012-01-26 17:58 ID:HxrcJCqk [Del]

“If the white man wants to live in peace with the Indian he can live in peace. There need be no trouble. Treat all men alike. Give them all the same law. Give them all an even chance to live and grow. All men were made by the same Great Spirit Chief. They are all brothers. The earth is the mother of all people, and all people should have equal rights upon it.”

146 Name: Feral : 2012-01-26 21:18 ID:xzPvoZwY [Del]

"As long as there are two people left on the planet, at the end of the day, someone is gonna want someone dead." -Sniper, Team Fortress 2.

War happens. I personally think that war is a bad thing, however I also see it as a necessary evil. Survival of the fittest and all that.

147 Name: Lain : 2014-07-30 21:20 ID:H8UgCZ73 [Del]

If the war is being fought to attain something good, like freedom, then it'snot bad. But if its fought for something meaningless like power, then it's bad. It comes down to the reason for war, and that very reason determines if war is goog or bad.

148 Name: Annie : 2014-10-10 03:14 ID:LNUrcCf8 [Del]

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149 Name: PikaGirl10582 : 2014-10-10 17:56 ID:iFdIGdjm [Del]

I personally think war is a bad thing. People are fighting for land, but we are missing one important thing... We are human... Men and woman are still people! Only two parts are different! Some wars are for freedom and i think that's a good thing for fighting for what you believe in. To be free! While some wars fight for land. That's ( in my opinion ) is bad. Why can't we share the land? We can all be free together! And well..... you get the point.....

150 Name: Lovely !YLCyt3kDBA : 2014-10-10 17:58 ID:2agnZEKx [Del]

War is a bad thing, because it shows that humans can think of no other way to resolve situations without it. Everyone should be able to resolve solutions to big world problems with a bit of talking, not war and violence. They're not only hurting who they want to hurt, but innocent people and that is not cool.

151 Name: Altair : 2014-10-10 18:04 ID:7GeFfpX+ [Del]

both lovely and Pikagril10582 are correct, war is bad unless of course we are left with no other choice such as World War II when we needed to save the millions of innocents from dying under Hitler's Germany. Other than that we can all agree to be civil human beings and live in peace. Look at history violence only leads to more violence.

152 Name: Chow : 2014-10-10 20:18 ID:IsmtxGO/ [Del]

I think war is a good Eye opener for all of us,for those who take thinks easily. Bring Despair to the World.

153 Name: Chi-chan : 2014-10-11 02:15 ID:jp5cpai7 [Del]

Well, it depends on the reason obviously. But of course, human as a social creature and able to think logically should've known the consequences of war, even if it for good deeds, of course in the end...it will only cause more casualties and suffering to the others.

In the end, it's all up to each individuals to decide what they think about the war. Since each human have varying opinion from one person to another.

154 Name: Gotssan : 2014-10-11 03:16 ID:90W0J2wO [Del]

I'll keep this short: War is a bad thing. It might be necessary and we might not have another choice, but that is also a bad thing. If there HAS to be a war, that means we've gone wrong somewhere.

155 Name: ayato : 2014-10-11 05:42 ID:UAI6ACJy [Del]

War is bad because it only causes pain and damage and it is not a solution to a problem. Let's love each other and be friendly to one another. Peace out :-)

156 Name: TimeBomb !FGX8.16lSY : 2014-10-11 07:05 ID:Ka0lJGWe [Del]

Honestly,no example of a war that actually 'caused some good comes in my mind,maybe because there probably isn't one.War is basically a massive human slaughter for selfish reasons (for example,a country wants to expand its territory just because its ruler is thirsty for more power).

People and , therefore , countries should try to resolve their conflicts in a diplomatic and peaceful way.

157 Name: Nyx : 2014-10-11 07:30 ID:PIG+9Yl3 [Del]

Ofcourse it's bad War doesn't result to anything good. people in the past could have done better.

158 Name: TimeBomb !FGX8.16lSY : 2014-10-11 08:07 ID:Ka0lJGWe [Del]

>>157 Today's people aren't with anything better than those in the past.The same hatred and selfishness that drove our ancestors is still present.The only difference is that today,those who are in charge are more discrete with their plans and don't let the masses see and know about them.There might be less wars,but people still achieve their wishes through other unorthodox ways.

159 Name: Magnolia : 2015-03-28 16:40 ID:bKUmbSeX [Del]

Guys we have over TEN discussions on whether war is good or bad.

For fuck's sake, SEARCH. BEFORE. POSTING.

160 Name: TrustMe : 2015-03-28 19:19 ID:/lZJTM9x [Del]

>>157 & >>156 I wouldn't say that nothing good comes from war. Many great things have come from war--overthrow of oppression, the institution of human rights, justice being served, and even a more unified and peaceful place to live. But that's not to say war isn't bad. The question becomes "do the ends justify the means?" And that's a very hard question to answer.

161 Name: TrustMe : 2015-03-28 19:32 ID:/lZJTM9x [Del]

>>150 In a perfect world, everyone would be able to solve their problems with talking...but of course we don't live in a perfect world. Some wars are started by greedy rulers who only care for themselves, but many are also started by people who believe what they are doing is right! And don't forget, a war needs two sides. If one group of people conquers and enslaves another the slaves can't just talk to their masters to solve the problem, they would be forced to fight for their freedom if they want it enough!

162 Name: Saika : 2015-03-28 19:44 ID:CHn1IwXi [Del]

for me it's bad

163 Name: Nia~san : 2015-03-28 21:21 ID:JURtDJz6 [Del]

War is something unneeded within our society. Keep in mind theres a difference between unneeded and realistic. Why can't we all sort things out peacefully? Because mankind craves blood lust just as much as peace. Nobody is perfect, therefore our world is not perfect; neither is our society. War is a natural thing in life. if it ca be avoided all of the hatred involved in war will be concentrated somewhere else; crime rates will go up, people will become more violent snd so on and so forth. Just a few questions: How will the light of peace shine if there is no shadow of despair? How will this work? Will everyones lives be fulfilled in happiness and peace 100% of the time? Would we have fulfilled our lives one hundred percent if we felt no pain, nor suffering? This is my personal opinion. I hope I don't offend anyone! >,<

164 Name: Kagase!NBjRPl.WLU : 2015-03-28 21:30 ID:XGutz6lC [Del]

A world with too much darkness is suffocating, but a world with too much light is blinding. War is neither good or bad. It is necessary for humans to survive.

165 Name: Aki : 2015-04-16 10:01 ID:GX6Im/R2 [Del]

War is but a means for good to come about. You cannot have faith without trial nor good times without the bad. It is what makes us live and thrive. War causes death which thins out the population and ensures proper amounts of food. It also brings about alliances, glory, and wealth. But of course you can also say that it causes pain, loss, and destruction. I ask you what is life without death? It is a very similar concept.

166 Name: Shikonbel !SXzmSmQBwY : 2015-04-16 11:53 ID:x3rcXNXx [Del]

War is neither good nor justifiable, but it is to an extent natural to humans, and it may be necessary. It is always best to resolve things peacefully of course, however that it not always realistic. Sometimes, war may be necessary for change. What is important to think about is whether the means and the end are enough to go through with it despite the price.

167 Name: CruelRika : 2015-04-16 16:23 ID:ObnyaCdl [Del]

No need for details, war is bad, but it's not when it's for defense purposes.

168 Name: Erebus : 2015-04-16 18:46 ID:eQZ6J8dk [Del]

War is bad, but also unavoidable. The only way to cease war of any kind would be for every country to disband their entire army and never get a new one, which is impossible due to human nature. War is an inevitability.

169 Name: kris : 2015-04-16 21:56 ID:C24W2weP [Del]

I see war as idiotic. I see the commandeers as little boys who never grew up, but only their toys got more expensive. They always tell use its to defend our country our freedom, but we rarely get threats. Yet we are constantly sending our troops over seas.

170 Name: Okumara : 2015-04-16 22:00 ID:W3mTFshY [Del]

War Is Bad Because Most Of The Soldiers Get PTSD

171 Name: Neil Noyoda : 2015-04-17 01:46 ID:KZnbNEh1 [Del]

Wars should be avoidable as Erebus has stated. But there will be times when it is too late to avoid it and that is the only way it may go through. War can be used for many purposes like power, intimidation, or merely just for fun. War can mean gang wars as well as country wars and civil wars. The question of whether war is good or bad isn't the right question in my opinion. It is more like if having the war is really necessary at a certain situation. If I was in a group and they had a war with another, I wouldn't feel too bad if it is an absolute because they should be like a family. Tl;dr, War is bad but maybe necessary in certain situations if the reason of it is logical and well-thought through.

172 Name: karin : 2015-04-19 18:14 ID:n7MlVeMq [Del]

I think war is something that we are not allowed to judge because we didn't see it. If one day we have see it I think it 'll be terrible 'cause nobody doesn't react like an another people.

173 Name: Very Bright : 2015-04-19 20:34 ID:AfyH/TaO [Del]

War is cruel!
So many people suffering, especially the resident.
why don't they get the prosperity immediately?

174 Name: Aries : 2015-04-19 21:19 ID:o3iCslGQ [Del]

Objectively speaking, war can be good and bad. It is bad for the victims -- the civilians, the ones whose country/properties are damaged but it's good for businessmen and the ones waging the war. In fact, the USA and other powerful countries have been using war not only as a means of acquiring new territories but to increase profits as well. Because really, weapons and food (for the soldiers) are in demand during wars. So that's my answer. It all depends on who are you asking the question.

175 Name: Baka : 2015-04-19 22:01 ID:bk98+Ol/ [Del]

Neither. War is war.

176 Name: Kizza !wWsxM7/ii6 : 2015-04-19 22:20 ID:XwMaVsp2 [Del]

There's no such thing as a good war. However, sometimes it is necessary for your peoples' survival. Putting a label like "good" or "bad" or war is, in itself, impossible, being that no war is good, the need for war is bad, but it may still have to happen for the good of a people.

177 Name: uberwoofer : 2015-04-19 22:41 ID:F19jZ4f2 [Del]

war is a lot like people, it's their ultimate form of expression. Just like people, you can't just tag it good or bad... It could come from aspirations you think of as either good or bad and it could end up being good or bad for different individuals

178 Name: Rossie !L5w6cG0AVg : 2015-04-19 22:44 ID:zRDTTE22 [Del]

It's neither.

179 Name: ryuhime : 2015-04-20 00:10 ID:LLIqAES8 [Del]

I think it's difficult to define war as good or bad in general. You have to consider it on a case-by-case basis. There has to be at least one important figure on each side who thinks war is better than any reasonable alternative (not meaning it's good) for there to be a war. However, I find it highly unlikely that an entire side of a war would have the same opinion towards that matter. Usually, the more unconditional benefit you get from the war, the better an idea you consider it.
My personal opinion is that war is not practical, however it's sometimes necessary. Imaging you were doing a group project with one other person. If you two get into an argument about something, neither of you can progress. From either one's perspective, the team as a whole would benefit from their personal decision. Now, let's say you didn't like coin-tossing because it was to random and the loser would simply complain that luck didn't determine the better plan of action. You would have to do something like play a game of chess* and whoever won would have their plan prioritized. Regardless of who wins, this situation leaves the loser to feel oppressed and annoyed towards their partner. So actually the only thing the "war" accomplished was to make a decision.
Ok so that was a bit extensive. To answer your question: My personal belief is that war is not good, but it may be the best available choice (it's better, not good).
*I am actually very strongly against using chess to represent war. I just thought it would get the point across in this case. Seriously though, how often do you see a war start between two perfectly identical groups?

180 Name: Shikonbel !SXzmSmQBwY : 2015-04-20 03:57 ID:x3rcXNXx [Del]

Bump

181 Name: Shikonbel !SXzmSmQBwY : 2015-04-20 17:12 ID:x3rcXNXx [Del]

I think that maybe war is never good for the individual, for the people involved, and can only be considered good in certain circumstances and for certain reasons by the ones who are deciding to start it. What I mean by that is, I think war can only ever really be good or bad to the people who are influencing and initiating it, and to the soldiers and civilians it is just a disaster. Not good or bad, just something that happened that they have no control over.

182 Name: Kuzuhara : 2015-07-04 19:22 ID:izEY8Ubx [Del]

Ok first of all this is the stupidest question ever.....
and war is bad.

183 Name: "Roxanne!UA1wBpmrWg : 2015-07-04 23:11 ID:dT3ciJWn [Del]

Wars exist as long we have to defend ourselves, if we didn't have to then war won't exist as long there's no attacking. We can never agree to make better hopes for ppl too. We have to just live to know what's right in our best of knowledge. In reality there's no good or bad its what we're fighting for is what decides that and how we go about it. So respect the dead even those that sees us as enemies bc its not their fault.

184 Name: Creed : 2015-07-05 06:48 ID:PtBd4dVs [Del]

Depends, war in ways is of course bad, but what about all the inventions we created after? It depends how you look at it.

185 Name: LeafeonZ : 2015-07-05 10:12 ID:oCjNXpIa [Del]

the thing is, no one truly WINS a war... too many people die for a true victory...

186 Name: Jess : 2015-07-05 11:32 ID:wpVEW62Y [Del]

It is hard to say what war is. It is just something people both hate and love.

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188 Name: ルー : 2015-07-05 12:06 ID:7xYICEsQ [Del]

anything you can find here https://www.google.com/search?q=war+quote+from+obito+uchiha is a good answer