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Getting back into PC's after years outta it and could use some help :) (14)

1 Name: SourDezzel : 2014-08-16 17:03 ID:o5qhLJh9 [Del]

About to buy a new PC finally and know the basics but have been outta the loop for a while and want 2 get some feed back before i make it final, i will post a pic and description of the ones im considering buying, looking for a good gaming pc that is also pretty good all-round, thanks for the help

2 Name: SourDezzel : 2014-08-16 17:08 ID:o5qhLJh9 [Del]

This one is my first choice, i heard intel is a lil better at gaming and uses less power, but im still a noob who doesnt know much :)

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i5-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive/7358029.p?id=1219267042026&skuId=7358029

$689.99

4th Gen Intel® Core™ i5-4460 processor
Features a 6MB L3 cache and 3.2GHz processor speed with Turbo Boost up to 3.4GHz.
Intel® Core™ i5 processor
Features smart 4-way processing performance with a speed boost.
Intel® Turbo Boost Technology
Automatically speeds up your processor when your PC needs extra performance.
8GB DDR3 SDRAM
For multitasking power, expandable to 16GB.
Multiformat DVD±RW/CD-RW drive
Create custom DVDs and CDs.
1TB Serial ATA III hard drive (7200 rpm)
Offers spacious storage and fast read/write times.
AMD Radeon R7 250 graphics
Feature 2GB dedicated video memory for lush images with rich, intricate detail. An HDMI output allows simple connection to an HDTV or other high-definition display (not included) for expansive viewing options.
3 USB 3.0 and 3 USB 2.0 ports
For fast digital video, audio and data transfer.
Built-in high-speed wireless LAN (802.11b/g/n)
Enables rapid connection to the Internet without wires.
Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR interface
Lets you easily link with other Bluetooth-enabled devices, such as a cell phone or MP3 player.
Built-in Realtek 8111E 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet LAN
Facilitates wired Web connection.
Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-bit operating system preinstalled
Provides a stable platform for word processing, Web navigation, gaming, media storage and more.

3 Name: SourDezzel : 2014-08-16 17:10 ID:o5qhLJh9 [Del]

this one seems to have really good reviews:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-amd-fx-series-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive/5574049.p?id=1219143550897&skuId=5574049

$729.99

AMD 6-Core FX-6300 Processor with NVIDIA GTX 750Ti graphics
Ensures reliable performance.
8GB DDR3 SDRAM
For multitasking power, expandable to 16GB.
Multiformat DVD±RW/CD-RW drive
Create custom DVDs and CDs.
6MB L3 cache memory
For reliable system processing.
1TB Serial ATA III hard drive (7200 rpm)
Offers spacious storage and fast read/write times.
NVIDIA GTX 750Ti graphics
Feature 2GB dedicated video memory for lush images with rich, intricate detail. An HDMI output allows simple connection to an HDTV or other high-definition display (not included).
3 USB 3.0 and 3 USB 2.0 ports
For fast digital video, audio and data transfer.
Built-in high-speed wireless LAN (802.11b/g/n)
Facilitates rapid connection to the Internet without wires.
Bluetooth interface
Lets you easily link with other Bluetooth-enabled devices, such as a cell phone or MP3 player.
Built-in Realtek 8111E 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet LAN
Enables quick and simple wired Web connection.
Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-bit operating system preinstalled
Provides a stable platform for word processing, Web navigation, gaming, media storage and more.

4 Name: SourDezzel : 2014-08-16 17:13 ID:o5qhLJh9 [Del]

This ones states seem 2 b threw the roof for its price but my only problem is is that its a cyberpowerpc instead of a ibuypower, i have heard alot of complaints about cyberpowerpc on bestbuy and it doesnt have built in wireless internet and bluetooth like the ibuypowers have unless thats something cheap and easy 2 do:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-ultra-desktop-amd-fx-series-16gb-memory-2tb-hard-drive/5832053.p?id=1219165147101&skuId=5832053

$648.99

AMD 8-Core FX-8320 Vishera Processor with AMD Radeon R7 250 dedicated graphics
Ensures powerful performance.
16GB DDR3 SDRAM
For multitasking power.
Multiformat DVD±RW/CD-RW drive with double-layer support
Records up to 8.5GB of data or 4 hours of video using compatible DVD+R DL and DVD-R DL media.
8MB L2 cache memory
For efficient system processing.
2TB Serial ATA III hard drive (7200 rpm)
Offers spacious storage and fast read/write times.
AMD Radeon R7 250 graphics
Feature 2GB dedicated video memory for lush images with vivid detail. HDMI output enables simple connection to an HDTV or other high-definition display.
8 high-speed USB 2.0 ports
For fast digital data transfer and easy peripheral connectivity.
Built-in 10/100/1000 Ethernet LAN
Enables quick and easy wired Web connection.
Microsoft 8.1 64-bit operating system preinstalled
Provides a stable platform for word processing, Web navigation, gaming, media storage and more.

5 Name: SourDezzel : 2014-08-16 17:14 ID:o5qhLJh9 [Del]

this one is last on my last cause it looks like the weakest but like i said im still new, but damn that case is sexy :) lol

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-amd-fx-series-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive/3889056.p?id=1219094120968&skuId=3889056

$659.99

AMD 6-Core FX-6300 Processor with AMD HD R7 250 graphics
Ensures optimal computing and gaming performance.
8GB DDR3 SDRAM
For multitasking power, expandable to 16GB.
Multiformat DVD±RW/CD-RW drive
Lets you create custom DVDs and CDs.
8MB L3 cache memory
For efficient system processing.
1TB Serial ATA III hard drive (7200 rpm)
Offers spacious storage and fast read/write times.
AMD HD R7 250 graphics
Feature 2GB of dedicated video memory for lush, vibrant images. An HDMI output enables flexible connectivity.
3 USB 3.0 and 2 USB 2.0 ports
For fast digital video, audio and data transfer.
Built-in wireless receiver
Allows you to connect to the Internet without wires.
Bluetooth interface
Lets you link with other Bluetooth-enabled devices, such as a cell phone or MP3 player.
Built-in Realtek 8111E 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet LAN
Enables quick and easy wired Web connectivity.
Azza Atlas case
Offers a stylish look.
Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-bit operating system preinstalled
Provides a stable platform for word processing, Web navigation, gaming, media storage and more.

6 Name: Inuhakka !XminuhakkA : 2014-08-16 21:38 ID:yTtFPG2I [Del]

I would honestly recommend building your own, it's cheaper and you have complete control. I can help you with that if you want.

If I had to pick from this list, it would be the second one.

- The 750ti is much, much better than the R7 250
- The FX-6300 is good enough for almost every game in existence at this point in time. 6 cores.
- You only need 8GB of RAM for anything other than video editing and other specialized applications
- I have that case and it's awesome. It is by far the best case out of all four. Maybe not best looking for you, but the bets in terms of strength, cable management, etc. It's a $120 case.

Unfortunately, the reviews section is what I find suspicious. They seem too good, not a single review below 5 starts, and not a single person complains about the annoying front cover for that case. But, this is the kind of thing you have to deal with buying a pre-made computer online, which is another reason I recommend making it yourself. I did, and it turned out well.

That's my input.

7 Name: SourDezzel : 2014-08-17 10:56 ID:o5qhLJh9 [Del]

thanks for the help yo, and i original was looking at the intel one cause i heard intel is better for gaming, its only 4 cores but its single core performance is better, heard that from some website but is that true? or is it just a very small difference?

8 Name: SourDezzel : 2014-08-17 10:58 ID:o5qhLJh9 [Del]

and im eventually gonna build my own but i want a decent one 2 get me by for now :)

9 Name: Inuhakka !PT0ENTROPY : 2014-08-17 11:15 ID:yO3SMdtm [Del]

>>7 This is an interesting point. Does Intel have better performance? Let me say it like this, as a summary: Intel has better performance, but not $50 better performance. You will pay a premium for the brand of Intel when you buy their products.

The FX-6300 is good enough to play games, period. People play Battlefield 4 with it, Crysis, etc. If it really isn't pulling through, you can overclock it since it's unlocked by default. More important is your GPU, which is why I chose the third. The GPU has more impact on your gaming performance than your CPU does, in most games.

I have an AMD CPU, an FX-8350. I have not had any issues with it. I would get better performance with an i5-3670k, but I would not get the $50 better performance it would cost me. Well, it's not worth that to me, anyway. I paid $195 for my AMD, the i5-3670k is $260. Is that performance boost worth $65? Well, if it's worth it to you, then you can. But, I don't think it is.

tl;dr - Intel will give better performance, for a lot more money. You are correct, it gives better single core performance, less heat, less power consumption, etc. The FX-6300 will not cause issues, it will be the GPU that is the weakest link.

10 Name: SourDezzel : 2014-08-17 15:51 ID:o5qhLJh9 [Del]

K, ya so AMD is the better bang for the buck, well im gonna probably get the one you recommended but since AMD does use more power will i need 2 upgrade my power source or will the stock one b good enough? and when i do get around to making my own, is there 8 core the best one they got at the moment?

11 Name: Xephlrek!9RNNck.4fo : 2014-08-17 16:25 ID:0j0TWeMD [Del]

FX-6350 user here. Get et.

12 Name: SourDezzel : 2014-08-18 18:24 ID:o5qhLJh9 [Del]

decided im gonna buck up a lil bit and getting me a custom one from ibuypower and just wanted 2 know if this set up will work all together or not or should i change certain things out for something else and if its a decent price deal, but this build is almost at my max budget, but here it is:

Azza Armour gaming case
or
NZXT Source 210 midtower (not sure which case yet)

AMD FX-6300

AMD Radeon R9 270X 2GB graphics card

2x4GB GSkill Ripjaws MBram sticks

ASRock fatal1yt 990FX killer Motherboard

500watt Corsair CX500 V2 power source

1TB hard drive

This is gonna run me around $950 but im also get alot of stuff with it:
Gaming keyboard and mouse,
turtle beach headset,
McAffe antivirus,
2 games,
blue-ray,
some LED red lights,
and inproved heat sink adhesive stuff and pro wireing

is this worth the price tag or close 2 it?

13 Name: SourDezzel : 2014-08-18 18:26 ID:o5qhLJh9 [Del]

and is this a good set up and will everything work with each other?

14 Name: SourDezzel : 2014-08-19 23:02 ID:o5qhLJh9 [Del]

actually going with a Corsair Graphite Series 230T Gaming Case and a FX-8320 processor and was going 2 go with a Gforce graphics but the 270X i have seen in every top 10 graphics cards of 2014 or bang-4-buck and the general same price as a 750ti :) damn im reading 2 much and my head fills like its about 2 blow lol but is this a good idea? this new build (with lots of other stuff, keyboard/mouse, OS, games, etc.) is running $998 total now and just under my $1000 budget :)