Hey guys new to the site, Nh member and was wondering what type of programmers we had out there? I can program in the following languages and I guess you could say "Skill" level.

Python - 2 years
Visual Basic - 3 years
Java - 2 years
C++ - 2 years
Php/Html/CSS - 5 years on and off.

But yea! Reply with what you have and who knows maybe the if the site needs testers and code debuggers we could be used? Just a thought :D

That's a pretty heavy skillset. I'm very impressed. I'm sure Reltair could use a hand so you might want to bring it up with him (he's the admin; you can email him at admin@dollars-bbs.org).

As for me, I'll be taking Visual BASIC Programming next year, so I have a ways to go.

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Impressive. I'm looking to get into programming myself (C++ / Database stuff potentially). Are there any good free resources you would recommend?

A resource and tutorials if you can indicate would be amazing. I have some years of HTML/CSS and a basic idea of Assembly and C (but more electronic oriented). I wanted to start with some different branch, more internet/software dedicated... But I don't really know where to start.

Where the fuck were you when I was rounding up people to join my D2 Team?! LOL

Anyways, I'm a programmer! Maybe not an experienced one given that I'm 15, but I know my way around coding more than most people.

Btw, if you're willing to join my team (or just a programming group) you can visit my site.

http://dollarsdev.4umotion.com/

If you do decide to join, I suggest setting your username to the username you use here so I know who you are to approve your membership.

>>4 TCP/IP and ASP.NET I would suggest. I also suggest that you familiarize yourself with the server OSs like Windows Server 2003, Windows Server 2008, and the Linux based OS Ubuntu as well as Linux itself.

We need a lot more people, programmers, to help, because my friend has been super busy lately and can't much work on it yet.

We'll need someone who can create a working one on their own pages/sites, until he gets back.

>>3 I'd recommend Bluefish. It's opensource and it covers a wider spectrum than the other code editors.

http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/download.html

Oh, I am well aware of almost all OS's. Here at school I have set up multiple file servers, and they are multiplatform. We have two windows 2000 severs, and one ubuntu server. And a file server which everything is backed up onto. So I have my fair share with networking and ASP.NET is what I have been recently exploring.

I've never really been into the web design aspect of coding, only dabbling in HTML and PHP. I need to learn Javascript.

But I mostly based myself in application programming like Java and Actionscript. Recently learned C, and based on the pace I'm convinced I could learn something like C++, Python, etc. relatively quickly.

As I understand it, the hardest part about programming is learning your first language. The rest is just syntax and minor differences in application.

I've also started learning VHDL, but I don't think circuitry programming/simulation really counts in this case.

I'd say javascript not really to sure of it though if not then go with >>8 's sudgestion of bluefish

im down! who gives orders here? i would really like to get in touch with the source code (chat room).if not the diagram. I like the minimal style of it. i think php,sql,html,javascript is all required? i would like to be a part of it.

>>10 I had some classes of VHDL... Not a pretty language, I would say. And there's no real application, really. It's a good previous to micro controllers... but never heard of a person programming them in VHDL. Not really used. (They say that VHDL is not a programming language. It's a description language.) Anyway. I don't really like it, C is really more useful.
As far as I know, Python is a freaking simple language. So it's a good one to learn, I think.

>>12 There's a thread that has the source code of the chat. Please take a look at 'view all threads' and ctrl+f next time, right? :D http://dollars-bbs.org/tech/res/1324433238.html
I haven't checked the mediafire link, through. But I think it's fine.

I know a few high level and scripting languages. Including ActionScript 2/3, C#, Lua, UnrealScript. Most of what I learn is for prototyping games. I did try to learn C++ and Java, it was horrible.

Hallo. Wow, I'm not advanced as you guys at all xD
I'm a first year in CS and still learning C x3
Hope to try C++ and Java next year I guess.

>>13 Ah yeah, I only learned it for the course I'm taking on Digital Design. We just used it to reinforce the process of simulating state machines and such.

I found C to be a mixture of very useful, and very difficult. I don't mean it was hard to learn and apply, but there was so much more you had to pay attention to than with higher level programming languages. That said, it was much more versatile regarding memory allocation and things like that.

I heard Python was mostly applied as a teaching language? I haven't ever really heard of any legitimate applications of it, but then again I never really look. The usual languages are always C++ and Java, whenever I have to take a guess.

But then, I don't consider myself an expert in comparing the pros and cons of different programming languages - that's a CS major's job :V

>>17 Good for you! I take a technical course of Eletronic, together with the high school, so I had a whole semester of that... State Machine is so annoying that...... D: Gah. I had to make a controller that simulate Assembly... Thanks good I'm going to start C for real.

I have some problems with C, since I have that thing from the VHDL (if x then y)... I always confuse that a bit. And I don't know how to include libraries and such, 'cause it's basically electronic oriented... And I'm learning by myself... PLEASE THAT DON'T BECOME AS HARD AS YOU SAY. XD
I haven't had python. In the place that I take drawing class, there are korean classes and the teacher is kind of a master in python. He said it's pretty easy to understand and gave me his site, with a tutorial. When I got time I'll start it. (The tutorial is in portuguese, so... Don't know if you can understand... xD) But I don't know the real application for that too. And I like Java more. Find it more... friendly? Haven't take a look in C++ but people... Scared me. xD~ Some teachers like saying that is the 'worst part in C and worst part in Java, together.'
I would really try Java. And get into Javascript. I like javascript. Just know the basic, but it's so... Magic. (~*-*)~

>>18 Oh I see - you're working from hardware up to software :O

That's the reverse of how I did it - I started with high level programming languages, like Java, and worked down to C, and then VHDL.

Yeah, languages that are more object-oriented are kind of difficult to learn at first. Honestly, learning it in Java is probably the best way to start - C is kind of hard for a first software language. But then again, you're familiar with the hardware side too, so it should be better for you. It's doable, once you get the hang of it!

Ah, I never learned Javascript. It's something I need to do at some point. At most, I know PHP and HTML (that is, I can google HTML functions).

Java's awesome and not to hard to learn. Python is a teaching language at least, thats how I was taught.

I can do HTML not amazing. I've been doing a few basic things in HTML for years now. Self taught courtesy of the internet. I never saw any reason to go deep into it. HTML is OLD and there are more simplistic ways to do it now. Not to mention not many sites support HTML codes.. I'm going to college for computer engineering though. Which involves computer programming. It'll be fun :).

Hey! Smart people! Want to help me? I am putting a site together, mentioned in this thread Dollar Donations, and as I mentioned before, I'm not THAT good with computer stuff YET! Post on my thread if you wish to help!

>Not many sites support HTML

I... what
But, HTML is literally the universal webpage language. Even PHP and Javascript are embedded within HTML.
If you meant not many sites use only HTML, then that makes a bit more sense. HTML is considered the bare bones of web design, and not using anything else to supplement it is very basic.

Since I'm here again, I might as well shed some info. If people want to learn how to create video games, like me, you need to learn C++, Photoshop, and Blender/3D Max. If you want to create web based software or networking, PHP, HTML, CSS, and Javascript would be a good start.

I heard lots of people want to check out C++. Those of you that haven't learned C, good for you. If you have learned C, it will be a bitch and a half because C will confuse the fuck out of you while learning C++.

http://www2.research.att.com/~bs/learn.html

For those who wish to learn C++.

Dude. Check the Dev. site, again, man.

C++ is a great language for things like game programming, I've heard. In particular, have you heard of the library called Allegro? It's supposed to be one of the best methods of handling graphics in C++. Unfortunately, I couldn't get it to compile properly (tried using the binary... There's probably an easier way to do it) but then, I only really tried for that day.

I also heard C# is viable, and somewhat easier. But i have not looked into that yet.

I am learning Php/Html/CSS

>>27 C# and BASIC I reserve for side purposes (like the whole installing windows and stuff, which I use Microsoft Visual, and server applications). C++ is also more powerful than C#, not to mention more common.

>>26 I'm a little late, I'll go check it out right now.

>>30 More powerful is what I've heard, but that only really matters if you're going to the trouble of creating an entirely new platform... which is only necessary if you plan on going commercial, your game is somehow innovative and unable to run efficiently on existing platforms, or if you're practicing.

For more casual uses, or projects that aren't very resource-intensive, a little inefficiency is a good tradeoff for being much, much more simple to work with.

But what I wasn't sure about is how viable C# really is, or how much easier it is than C++. Because I don't plan on reworking the entire structure of something I could just build on top of until I'm fairly certain I can do a top-notch job of it.

>>32 The C family language as a whole is a pain in the ass. It has all these rules and regulations. The trade off is do you want to be familiar with the structure of the language, or do you want something that doesn't make your shit explode if something goes wrong?

I'd learn C++ and not BASIC or C# for gaming because if I do decide to go into making mainstream video games I don't have to turn around and learn a whole fucking new language.

Well to be honest, it's not learning the language that's my concern. C++ has a structure very similar to C, which I know, and I've been told C# is basically Java, which I know. The mantra I go by is that once you've learned one language, you've learned them all. To a degree, of course.

Even when you know it already though, there's no denying one is still going to be easier or more efficient than the other. But I see your point about using C++ right off the bat. For simple game making though, I'm guessing that means C# is still easier? I mean I could just as easily use Game Maker or somehing cheap but that strikes me as lame for someone who's learned CS. I feel like I'm wasting it.

>>34 It's like this. Programming languages are like our languages in real life. English is to Spanish as C++ is to C whereas C++ is to BASIC as English is to Japanese. You might see similar letters and phrases but it's structure and grammar might differ significantly. Also, I'd rather use C++ and BASIC than C++ and C# or C because I will be less prone to confusing the two that way.

I suggest you learn some other language. Believe it or not if you learn C++ you will use C# too, but you need C++ if you are going to make games. C# will be used for less demanding parts of the game, whereas the core will be C++.

>>34 Check out http://udk.com/