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The chat room. Is it really necessary? (65)

1 Name: <Anon> : 2012-02-14 07:06 ID:17B5bblB [Del]

OK. Here is a good topic. This Dollars site has a chat. This sets it apart from the rest of the sites. But is it necessary? The chat we have is public, the last one was a bit more private. The chat we have is littered with yaoi bars, two people only chats, and the beginner chats [which have no host, so you can be a super troll and annoy everyone]. So I really wonder, will a removal of a little chat room hurt the site? No. This is a site for Dollars to discuss stuff on the boards. The chat is for real time discussion. We should just remove the link, because it is useless. BUT I would love to hear you out.

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3 Name: BarabiSama : 2012-02-14 09:01 ID:XZO+C5iA [Del]

I don't like nor use chatroom either, but some members like it. When we didn't have a chatroom, everyone spazzed out because they wanted one. Now we link to one. It's not really a big deal to have one, so I don't see what the problem is.

4 Name: Rock Angel : 2012-02-14 12:14 ID:G2Ur6cCX [Del]

Well i think having a dollars chat is fun its where we can talk about other stuff then what we talk about on the board i mean the chat is another way to interact with the other fellow dollars then talk about whats happening in the world

5 Name: Kumo!NC09qbtR1Q : 2012-02-14 12:36 ID:3Enb8PM3 [Del]

>>1 the chat wasn't any different when it was private and only open to BBS members.... and aside from that, as Barabi said, everyone spazzed out when chat was down. there was a huge increase in the ammount of stupidity, duplicate threads, generally stupid threads, consequential white knighting, and other various things that happened that is the stuff of nightmares.

6 Name: NaeBree !jAUXc1hruw : 2012-02-14 14:31 ID:/IbTelnP [Del]

That chat rooms are there for a reason. Otherwise, in addition to what >>5 said, there would be waaayyyy too many normal conversations on threads. e.e

7 Name: sleepology !CHs4eVJ3O2 : 2012-02-14 14:48 ID:DY7gIVY1 [Del]

Um...... why was this made? Im not trying to come down on the guy this is a serious question im asking.
if i remember correctly the chat only was linked/put on the site because of so much demand, so it wouldnt make sense to take down our most popular product. Which is true.
The only reason the last one was more private was because it was an older version. Yes theres a lot more people then before in the chats, but thats because the other one was causing issues with the actual site. If it didnt, im sure we would still be using the old one.

8 Name: Misuto!M4ZBq07Cs. : 2012-02-15 00:15 ID:q+w0A/TV [Del]

You have a point, I'll admit, OP. The chat does seem to have a lot of residual issues, like people constantly complaining about something out of our jurisdiction, or people coming here with the wrong impression.

However, if we didn't have the link, we'd be back to square 1 - people would start complaining about the lack of a chatroom, and at least Main and Random, maybe Suggestions, or any board that will be mis-posted on following its removal, people will start posting alternative chat sites anyway. We'd get a lot of board spam like,
"HEY IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO OTHER MEMBERS GO HERE"
"NO GO HERE WE MADE A GROUP FOR THE DOLLARS"
"OH REALLY SO DID WE"
"YOU SHOULD USE THIS OTHER CHAT PROGRAM"
etc.

Right now, with the link in place, at least we can defer people to that without much issue. Not sure how it would turn out if we couldn't, but it's worth a thought.

9 Name: Kumo!NC09qbtR1Q : 2012-02-15 16:18 ID:3Enb8PM3 [Del]

>>8 and not only would those types of posts be made....they would be duplicated...over...and over....

Fun Fact: the one time i was ever bitched at for being "a elitist fuck that thinks they own the site" was when i was backing up Misuto on a duplicated "hey, the chat's down" thread.

The more you know.

10 Name: Sleepology !4a6Vun8zuw : 2012-02-15 16:23 ID:jTFG1270 [Del]

Just waiting for that star with a rainbow trail to show up

11 Name: Composer !5/elwbL0iI : 2012-02-15 17:24 ID:2VWHaRNu [Del]

Even if the link is useless there's no disadvantage to having it there.

12 Name: Kumo!NC09qbtR1Q : 2012-02-15 17:50 ID:KY3g6Y9+ [Del]

>>10 i was searching for it, because i know bread used one, but i can't remember which thread it was and my lazy Google search came up empty

13 Name: <Anon> : 2012-02-16 07:04 ID:17B5bblB [Del]

>>9 True, but I could deal with that. The chat should be put down simply because it's useless. Overall, this site is just a place to debate and discuss.

14 Name: Kumo!NC09qbtR1Q : 2012-02-16 15:43 ID:3Enb8PM3 [Del]

>>13 look at it this way though, a lot of the people on this site don't debate, they just browse any thread they want for a time and then use it to converse among one another via threads or chat. hell, some people just came to this site for one reason or another and just abandoned it FOR the chat. we get rid of the link to it, there will be more harm done than good. I see it as a way to deter most of the pointlessness or stupidity somewhere else, and if yo don't like what goes on there, simply dont go there. in other news, recently people such as Mael, Divine Raccoon, Misuto 27, Thiamor, myself, and others have been trying to set up and participate in some decent rooms, if that's what the overall concern is.

15 Name: Pilgrim : 2012-02-16 17:07 ID:bsCy3xf5 [Del]

I am very fond of the chat room. Although i recognize the trolling factor, it is surprisingly easy to get intelligent, interesting, or amusing conversations going with an aptly titled room and host privileges

16 Name: Sleepology !4a6Vun8zuw : 2012-02-16 18:06 ID:jTFG1270 [Del]

Im very curious as to what horrible thing happened to make this person feel so strongly against the chat

17 Name: Hitomi Tsukimi !pouHfNIzKo : 2012-02-16 18:10 ID:VLGndZOP [Del]

drrr-chat isnt even ours...

18 Name: <Anon> : 2012-02-17 07:03 ID:17B5bblB [Del]

>>16 It wasn't anything horrible. It was just the lack of smart conversations. A surplus of stupid people and Yaoi bars pissed me of to no end. We had those in our old chat, but not as much as this one. Oh and >>17 No shit.

19 Name: kikyo : 2012-02-17 18:01 ID:O5O52aBl (Image: 720x486 jpg, 45 kb) [Del]

src/1329523280224.jpg: 720x486, 45 kb
We have to keep the chat room. We are nothing without it. That what makes us dollars the Dollars. We have to keep it.

20 Name: anubis !uSezxvwowc : 2012-02-17 19:11 ID:gQt12Zmy [Del]

>>19...I don't understand. You think that we need a chat to be Dollars? So...those of us who don't use chat aren't Dollars? So...I'm not a Dollar? You're logic is flawed.

21 Name: Sky-Chan : 2012-02-17 20:14 ID:r3spywTv [Del]

>>19 =3= This isn't a chat site... just saying.

22 Name: <Anon> : 2012-02-17 21:50 ID:LxFB+hnG [Del]

>>19 Nice picture, but your statement is illogical. If we relied on this chat, we might actually try to stop yaoi bars and other stuff. If we do rely on said chat we should treat it like it is ours.

23 Name: sleepology !CHs4eVJ3O2 : 2012-02-17 22:40 ID:BxOpKgXT [Del]

>>19 fandom noobliness, ignore it

24 Name: Karu Kurai : 2012-02-19 15:28 ID:F8kUhx1o [Del]

>>19 I totally Agree!

25 Name: Tuxen!FD2UMvkmO. : 2012-02-19 21:08 ID:Y+jf1e1f [Del]

>>19
i totally disagree its the people that make the dollars not the way we communicate!

26 Name: Seathes : 2012-02-20 11:59 ID:SFyb8YKm [Del]

The chat room is simply a necessity to the authenticity of the site. If the chat room were to be removed, a major piece of the cosplay is taken from the site. This is, after all, a Dollars site.

27 Name: Yatahaze !E/8OvwUzpY : 2012-02-20 12:24 ID:dQUtaRHD [Del]

"If the chat room were to be removed, a major piece of the cosplay is taken from the site."

What is this I don't even...

28 Name: Kumo!NC09qbtR1Q : 2012-02-20 14:29 ID:KY3g6Y9+ [Del]

>>27 this is what i was thinking....

>>26 instead of thinking of the chat as being something that makes the site FEEL more authentic (which is what I think you were driving at) remember a few things

1)The chat set-up in the DRRR anime was not linked to the dollars site itself, so by saying that the chat adds to this feeling of authenticity, it's actually sort of detracting from it.

2)This isn't a fansite in the first place, so the word "Cosplay" should not be thrown out there in order to describe the way the site operates.

3) I think the really major reasons for not taking down the chat have really all been stated prior to this.

29 Name: Master-sama : 2012-02-20 14:57 ID:GFjPfOtU [Del]

It gives people a chance to talk about serious matters and allows them to have fun along the way, I just think we need ground rules like no yaoi or those innapropiate sex dream fantasies...

30 Name: *insertnamehere*!!mhJDjCwh : 2012-02-20 15:10 ID:b957PD4X [Del]

>>29 Well, we really can't set ground rules to things we don't own. At least, that's how I feel.

31 Name: Kumo!NC09qbtR1Q : 2012-02-20 15:59 ID:KY3g6Y9+ [Del]

>>29 not only do we not own the chat, as stated in just about every post on this thread, but there are a few ways to avoid getting caught in things like these Sex RP rooms

1) if you see a room labeled "Gay sex orgy crazy time fun" or something like that, STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM IT

2) if you enter a room NOT explicitly labeled as some sex RP, but you go in and they're havign a massive internet text orgy, promptly BACK THE FUCK OUT OF THAT ROOM.

3) if you enter/create a room NOT supposed to be used for sex RP, but some random asshole enters and trolls/wants to sex RP, have the host KICK THAT MOTHERFUCKER CLEAR OUT OF THE ROOM (banning works just as well, if not better)

4) Say the host is AFK/ doesn't care that his/her chatroom has been invaded by faggoty sex RPers, SEE COURSE OF ACTION LABELED ON PART TWO

Really, the explanation is simple, i don't see why so many people get so worked up about this stuff.

32 Name: Kumo!NC09qbtR1Q : 2012-02-20 16:12 ID:KY3g6Y9+ [Del]

*solution is so simple

33 Name: Yatahaze !E/8OvwUzpY : 2012-02-20 17:39 ID:dQUtaRHD [Del]

>>31
This.

34 Name: MattMller : 2012-02-20 17:42 ID:/NJ1WffD [Del]

uh , i don't think we should remove the chat but probabley fix all cyber sexing

35 Name: Yatahaze !E/8OvwUzpY : 2012-02-20 18:00 ID:dQUtaRHD [Del]

>>34
You made a stupid as fuck thread on main.
As long as you live, your opinions will be invalid.

36 Name: Feral : 2012-02-20 18:42 ID:XnN4uUbC [Del]

I'm not really against the chat rooms. Granted I don't use them much, but it's fun to pop in from time to time and see if anyone from the BBS is on and see if I can't get in on a decent conversation every now and then. I don't really see the chats hurting us much, IMO.

37 Name: Kumo!NC09qbtR1Q : 2012-02-20 20:14 ID:KY3g6Y9+ [Del]

>>35 point is to see if he/she can grow and learn from those mistakes, not to shoot all of his/her opinions down automatically.

the thing that makes his/her opinion invalid in this case is that they obviously did not care to read any post beyond the OP

38 Name: Icarus_Wings !F0oni070Vc : 2012-02-20 20:31 ID:ECzMDHvO [Del]

Why is IRC ignored? It's right on the right side of the screen but no-one's ever there. We can own that room. Chances are, none of the people that talk about dislikable topics will even find it.

Those who don't use IRC, here's a shortcut:
1)Click Link
http://qchat.rizon.net/?channels=dollars-bbs&uio=d4
2)Fill in your nick
3)Click Connect
4)Leave it on in the background until other people are there.


I'll start (though I'm not very talkative). I'll be there whenever I'm on the computer, as "Lore" until I can hunt down the random person who registered the channel and didn't turn on secret.

You can't just leave if no one's there. Then no one will ever be there.

39 Name: The56ker !bIx9.mz1Ew : 2012-02-20 20:44 ID:7Fg+croK [Del]

i only use the chat when im bored and trying to find a room with some intelligence but that usually fails anyway when im free im on the irc chat i made it a dedicated chat since it was just open for anyone to take... but i think its better then the site chat i use both even though im the only one in irc at any given time

40 Name: Yatahaze !E/8OvwUzpY : 2012-02-20 20:50 ID:dQUtaRHD [Del]

>>37
>>34 is a troll.
:P

41 Name: Kumo!NC09qbtR1Q : 2012-02-20 23:54 ID:KY3g6Y9+ [Del]

>>40 like i knew that beforehand

42 Name: Ashuri : 2012-02-21 21:51 ID:VhyT3484 [Del]

>>38 This.

43 Name: TheUnknown : 2012-02-22 01:56 ID:LmiuqOC1 [Del]

We need to keep the chat. Anon has no control here. You can not say what is necessary and what isnt.

44 Name: sleepology !CHs4eVJ3O2 : 2012-02-22 03:15 ID:wbAbhUxM [Del]

Oh how i pray sometimes for samefags.
Everyone just let this crap drop n leave it be. It is completely useless

45 Name: Anonymous : 2012-02-22 12:56 ID:hAxUF50/ [Del]

I'm sorry but we don't understand people who don't have hair sleepology. Could you try to speak english?

46 Name: Thiamor !yZIDc0XLZY : 2012-02-22 15:21 ID:1q8gZ2Rz [Del]

>>45

Maybe if you stop being a douche, you'd know what the fuck he was talking about? Try being smart for once in your miserable life.

47 Name: sleepology !CHs4eVJ3O2 : 2012-02-22 16:21 ID:jn2MiMSo [Del]

Learn how to insult people you freaking idiot.

48 Name: Thiamor !yZIDc0XLZY : 2012-02-22 16:27 ID:SFBkIX29 [Del]

>>47
Talking to me, or Anon?

49 Name: Sleepology !4a6Vun8zuw : 2012-02-22 16:51 ID:jTFG1270 [Del]

No not you, youre performing well enough

50 Name: Kumo!NC09qbtR1Q : 2012-02-22 17:05 ID:KY3g6Y9+ [Del]

>>49 "performing well enough"

....bad thoughts immediately enter my mind

51 Name: Sleepology !4a6Vun8zuw : 2012-02-22 17:53 ID:jTFG1270 [Del]

At least i didnt say something like your preforming at expectations.

52 Name: Yatahaze !E/8OvwUzpY : 2012-02-22 19:09 ID:dQUtaRHD [Del]

>>50
This.
>>51
Irrelevant.

53 Name: Nomura_Mangaka* !MANGAS6Kfg : 2012-02-22 19:10 ID:PhECtOFJ [Del]

>>50 More this.

>>51 true..

>>52 this again.

54 Name: Anonymous : 2012-02-23 13:18 ID:hAxUF50/ [Del]

Again. You all love to waste your trollhard time on a simple post someone has made.

55 Name: sleepology !CHs4eVJ3O2 : 2012-02-23 14:22 ID:M0P/VLYk [Del]

Alright, who thinks i should email bossman n see if i cant get this nuisance taken care of

56 Name: Thiamor !yZIDc0XLZY : 2012-02-23 15:23 ID:SFBkIX29 [Del]

I vote yes. This idiot is just trying our patience.

57 Name: HoleinOne !L5ix4I6Qgg : 2012-02-25 17:45 ID:Ufk0z4MN [Del]

Personally, I miss the old chat and don't particularly car for the new one but "What'cha gonna do about it?" \(O_O )/ Nothing.
We can only wait and see if we get another chat. The old chat was spectacular because our people were in it. I don't think we mix well it the Drrr-chat people but it is what it is. Don't enter chats that you don't like and leave ones that go bad. Problem Solved, right?
Basically I agree with >>31, Kumo but without the curse words. :D

58 Name: Kumo!NC09qbtR1Q : 2012-02-26 16:52 ID:KY3g6Y9+ [Del]

>>57 except people forget that the old chat was pretty much the same thing as the new one, sex RPers and all and all. :/

also, i only included the curse words because it seems like there are a billion and a half threads complaining about chat room material when it's really so damn simple to get around it and actually have a semi-intelligent conversation with people, so long as you put just a tiny amount of effort into it.

59 Name: SaintSoul : 2012-02-27 20:03 ID:VHG5j/Me [Del]

I kinda liked the old chat, I mean, it was the chat I first used, and stuff, and there were less one to one rooms, sex chats until it got taken down (._. One perv, the whole pack comes, amirite), and it just felt nicer, (plus it had my favorite teal icon orz). Though I don't like the new chat, I still think it's necessary since some people might flip shit if it were taken down. Meh. My argument is mostly invalid.

60 Name: Sleepology !4a6Vun8zuw : 2012-02-27 20:26 ID:jTFG1270 [Del]

:I

61 Name: Kumo!NC09qbtR1Q : 2012-02-28 21:37 ID:KY3g6Y9+ [Del]

>>59 it was still a better constructed argument than some of the things I've seen on the site.

62 Name: <Anon> : 2012-02-29 07:03 ID:17B5bblB [Del]

>>43
I understand I have no control over this site, I chose to voice my opinion because I wanted to. Plus, the fantasies of others needs to stay off the chats. Oh, and >>47 If you were talking to me, fuck off. If you weren't talking to me, then ignore the previous sentence.

63 Name: sleepology !CHs4eVJ3O2 : 2012-02-29 09:29 ID:bboYayBZ [Del]

No, i wasnt talking to you, i was talking to the guy two posts above mine.
the main reason people have such a problem with this post is because its been said over n over n over again. Its taxing on the patience to have to read the same thing 20 times.
the only thing you can to is go into rooms, and ask the people doing _____ activity that you dont approve of to move to a different chat site. Theres pretty much a 99% they will get pissed n not do it. Its either that or beg n plead the chat creator to give you powers to invade a room and kick everyone out of it

64 Name: Kumo!NC09qbtR1Q : 2012-02-29 15:52 ID:3Enb8PM3 [Del]

>>63 or they could just...you know...stop being lazy and follow my advice in >>31...

>>38 is a good alternative as well

65 Name: sleepology !CHs4eVJ3O2 : 2012-02-29 17:35 ID:WBVZMuKL [Del]

>>64 that too, but it wasnt on my mind at the time