Okay, so awhile back, i heard about a car that was being caled "the future of transportation" Its caled the Honda Clarity. Instead of running on oil or electricity, it runs on hydrogen. Hydrogen mixes with oxygen and creats energy(to power the car) and the only other biproduct is water, NO CO2. and eventually the plants and tree would absorb the co2 in our atmosphere and clean the planet. To any driving dollar members who drive thiscar, my thanks. I believe that this car could very well be the first step in cleaning this planet.

Hydrogen is one of the most abundant fuel sources in the universe. The only problem with it is that its almost aways stuck to something else, but geting it detached is no harder than building giant drills in the midle of the ocean. So if anyone is in the market for a car, please take a look at the Clarity

I want to clarify some things about Hydrogen technology.

- First things first, your vehicle's typical combustion reaction goes like this: C8H18 + #O2 -> #CO + #CO2 + 9H20, where Octane mixes with Oxygen to form Carbon Monoxide, Carbon Dioxide, and Water. Now, a hydrogen vehicle's combustion reaction looks like this:

H2 + O2 -> 2H20. Since there is no carbon there are no carbon compounds. However, you need pure hydrogen gas to undergo this reaction. This can be created by reversing the reaction. Ergo:

2H20 -> 2H2 + O2. This can be achieved through electrolysis, but it requires massive amounts of electricity, more than we have to create hydrogen gas feasibly. This is why hydrogen tech is not getting off the ground.

yes, but doing any of that, like i said previously, is no harder than building a giant drill in the middle of the ocean and drilling down til we find oil. Besides, there are already pumps that offer hydrogen.

Actually, no, that is not true. You cannot drill for hydrogen. You can drill for hydrocarbons, but hydrocarbons are what we make gasoline from, and create carbon oxides, which are bad for the environment.

If you want to create hydrogen, you need to break the covalent bonds in distilled water (pure H20). And as I stated already, it takes large amounts of electricity. More than we have to make hydrogen widely available.

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I don't think he meant we drill the ocean for hydrogen, he's saying it's no harder to make a hydrogen pump than to drill the ocean floor in search of oil. though he is incorrect in the sense that the hydrogen motor is highly inefficient. until the technology advances the unfortunate best fuel source for cars are hydrocarbons

Frausti is correct on what i had said. But the hydrogen is efficient, and doesnt produce co2. Also, hydogen is also found in other chemical make ups. Not just in water.

>>6 I want some sources of evidence. Because when you break a hydrogen bond you're left with Hydrogen Ions (H+) or Hydrogen Gas (H2), and whatever you split it off from. Therefore, if you were to try to separate hydrogen from a hydrocarbon you would be left with either H+ or H2, and Carbon (C). Now there are some replacement reactions with different salts that readily create hydrogen gas, but again, are the sources readily available and how much energy does it require to create the gas?

who says the hydrogen is mixed with a hydrocarbon. But the purpose of this thread was to talk about a car that is carbon free and its just a matter of filling it up with hydrogen from your local pump, that's all.

>>8 What you aren't noticing is that it's so much more complex than you think it is. That's what I'm trying to point out. And you didn't answer my question. How are you going to get hydrogen gas, if not from water or hydrocarbons?

And what you aren't noticing is that i had more than one sentence in the last post. I'm talking about a car, not the process of getting fuel for it.

But without the fuel, how will said car run?

fuel is already being made

I'm actually planning on working with cars in the future once I'm done with high school and college, and hopefully work in engineering, and hydrogen powered cars would be an awesome project. But that will be a while, so future mission for me yaaaa!

>>12 You're still missing the point. For starters, the fuel is not being made in significant enough quantities for Hydrogen cars to become mainstream. Second, the fuel is being made in a manner that releases harmful carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide into the environment.

"During the production of hydrogen, CO2 is also produced. The SMR process in centralized plants emits more than twice the CO2
than hydrogen produced. Source: http://www.getenergysmart.org/files/hydrogeneducation/6hydrogenproductionsteammethanereforming.pdf

Seriously, hydrogen is not the end all problems source of energy you think it is. Educate yourself on the disadvantages as well as the advantages. And make sure that if you advocate something you know what you're talking about.