I would like to keep on anonymous name but i guess a lot has taken it on, but seriously, i would like to hear your opinions about this topic, this topic is a very crucial and very touchy topic here in our place. lots of people are pro's and the others are no's i know i know, its common but i would just like to hear about your opinion about this because for me, I am a straight person but i respect the LGBT community because they took up the courage to be true to themselves, and i myself admire their courage to do those things regardless of how many religious ( too much) people discriminate them, i am religious but i believe that everybody has the right to love, no matter what gender, because i firmly believe in the saying that LOVE knows NO BOUNDS. ^_^
i hope you respond nicely, ^_^


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I am a writer of the LGBT genre stories.. ^_^

I don't have a problem with gay people. It's their life, their body and they can do what they want. I am neither for nor against. The only time I really have a problem is the flamboyant gays who try and force others into supporting them or turning gay themselves.

For example:The first openly gay person I ever met was a total asshole. He used to attack me after school and tell me he'd kill me if I didn't go gay. So naturally I had a slight fear of gays for a while. But then I met this one guy who was the sweetest person I had ever met. He helped me get over my fear and now I'm perfectly fine with gays again. I have a personal fear of the first gay kid but thanks to my friend I don't judge the whole group just because of one guy. I judge people based on how they treat me and others around them. And I honestly wish more people would live like that as well.

Being gay doesn't really make a person any less human. It just makes them different. And different is good. Because if everyone was the same life would be pretty boring.

Although, I do struggle the most with transsexuals. I have difficulty grasping why somebody would want to change their body. But like I said earlier; Their body, they can do what they want. I won't dislike them just because they decided they wanted boobs and a vagina. I try to give everyone a chance. And even if I don't understand why, I at least try to see their reasoning. Sorry for the long response.

Both of your opinions on gays bother me because you here LGBT and automatically think "gay".

Gays are only a fraction of the LGBT community. If you include only those four letters, you've got homosexuals, bisexuals, and the trans community (which includes transgender, transsexual, and transvestite). If you include the whole alphabet soup, you've got asexuals, pansexuals, queers, intersex, two spirit, and probably a lot more that 'm forgetting.

>>2 As for you, transsexuals isn't about wanting to have the other genitals. It's about firmly believing that you were born the wrong sex. It's not j ust from female to male or male to female either. It could by any mixture of things. Both or none.

Transgender- believe that they are gender other than their sex but don't want a sex change
Transsexual- Believe that they are gender other than what they are born with nad want the sex change
transvestite- believe that their gender matches their sex, but likes dressing in the clothes of the other gender for any reason

Shu, you're a female, right? How would you feel is someone called you a male? (or the other way around if I'm wrong). That's how they feel EVERY DAY!

I, on the other hand, hold no strong opinions on my gender. If I woke up a male tomorrow, I'd give zero fucks. Actually, being a dude would be kind of fun and awesome.

Regardless, I'll answer the question of this thread.

Being an asexual myself, I support the LGBT community because I understand how it feels to be discredited for being who you are. People have a hard time believing that I have no sexual attraction. Looking at any hot or sexy celebrity just doesn't seem to make me "feel funny down under" or whatever the euphemism is.

Yet people are always telling me, "There will be someone.", "You're just a late bloomer", or "You just don't get it."

I've also heard a bit about Christians thinking asexuality is wrong? I don't know what's up with that. I haven't had the chance to talk with anyone that believes that.

Regardless, my biggest stance is: Why the fuck do you care? They aren't hurting anyone, and they aren't bothering you. It's not your problem to fix. Hell, it's not even a problem.

>>2 I don't really get that guy who tried to make you gay. That's a good example of them hurting someone, though.

>>3 >Both of your opinions

Only Shu mentioned gays, I believe.

>How would you feel is someone called you a male?
If I had short hair, I can't argue it's reasonable for everyone to eliminate all assumptions they have about my gender and start from scratch assuming they don't know until they ask. Here's the problem I see: I can't assume what gender you are? Fine, then I'll have to ask...but in asking, I would imply your gender isn't obvious. This is something people get offended over. If you look like a guy, and there's no reason for me to assume otherwise, I'll say 'he', 'him', etc. There is no goddamn way you can get offended at that reasonably if you haven't told me anything about you.

What's different is if you tell me "Actually, I'm a girl, thank you", and I continue using 'he', 'him', etc. Then I'm an asshole (I am still an asshole, but this is an example).

Do you see why I am frustrated? People get very offended when you call them the wrong gender, which I can understand, but not if those people have not told you anything. If someone has the features of a man, I can only recognize those subconsciously. I can't avoid my initial judgement, only reject it afterwards. And I am fully willing to do that if you tell me. I don't care if you look like a girl and feel like a guy, I am willing to change the pronouns I call you by. But, is it reasonable to expect me to know exactly what you want to be called before being told?

>Yet people are always telling me, "There will be someone.", "You're just a late bloomer", or "You just don't get it."

I hate this as well. I have experienced similar things, but not related to sexuality. People need to come to a conclusion they understand, it's terrible.

>>3 I used to be called a guy all the time. I was bullied because I dress like a boy, fuck, I still am mocked by my own parents because of it. Don't give me that "that's how they feel every day" shit 'cause I personally know how it feels. And honestly, it's not that big a deal, So calm down. Sorry for not being specific about what kind of Tranny I was referring to as well. You don't need to get all butthurt. The nice man/woman asked me for my opinion and I gave him a short version. I was at work. Excuse me for not wasting my entire lunch break to thoroughly nitpick the entire 'alphabet' for you. Next time I will make sure I type out a three page essay describing my feelings towards the gay community.

>>5 Don't say tranny, please. That is a slur. And while you say that it's not that big of a deal for you, understand that for somebody else, it could be a huge deal.

I am a huge supporter of the LGBT+ community. Everybody should be able to feel comfortable with who they are and be able to love who they love (or to not even love anybody if that's how they feel).
Even when I was in elementary school, I have felt out of place. I would have little crushes on girls and boys. Being so young, I didn't know that it was okay for that to happen. Once I got to 5th grade, I learned about bisexuality and that's how I identified. But it still didn't feel right. It was around that time when the other kids started talking about who's "hot" and it was so weird to me. I never could think of anybody in that way. I continued to feel weird until I found out about asexaulity in my freshman year. It made me happy to know that there's others like me. So I now identify as asexual biromantic.
As for my gender, I feel like I'm a boy and a girl. Most of the times, a boy. Some trans people I knew told me that there were other genders besides the binary genders we all know and I did some research on them. I discovered the term bigender and knew that was what fit me.
What bothers me about the "not common" identities is that people assume it's because of Tumblr. No, I'm not asexual because of Tumblr. I'm not bigender because of Tumblr. Hell, I didn't even learn about those terms on Tumblr. I was just born like this and found terms to describe it. So what?
I hope that more people will become accepting of our community. Also that we get the rights we deserve. Cause we could very easily get killed or fired from our jobs just for being... well, us. And that's just ridiculous. Just let us be happy. It's not like we're any different than straight and cis people other than how we identify.

>>6 When they blame it on Tumblr, they are actually pointing out a very real issue with self-diagnosis, which is confirmation bias. The basic premise is it's easier to see what traits you have that coincide with a certain condition and it's far harder to consciously recognize traits that are very basic to you that don't fit. It's also very enticing to get some kind of condition to call yourself by, so that you can feel like everything you've felt actually means something. These and other factors kind of poison the pool and other people who self-diagnose and spend a great deal of time on it suffer as a result.

This is more with mental disabilities/disorders. I have almost 0 respect for self-diagnoses for mental disorders. This is because of the number of people that self-diagnose themselves with a condition I have, almost none of whom really understand what it is. I started out applying this kind of logic to different sexualities, but I am not sure if it's as justified. Right now, I still believe sexuality is too complicated and relies too much on information that cannot be standardized or shared properly (eg, the way you 'feel' doesn't translate very well, whereas behavior or motor tics translates better). I tend to doubt self-diagnoses that don't involve consulting any kind of professional. While other people have been doing this for many years with their own sexuality, I still don't think it's very accurate. I think there are a lot of people who think they are straight but really aren't. I'm not sure if this is a problem.

So, will I accept you? If you tell me you are pansexual, I honestly may not believe you've put enough research into the subject to know that is true or what that means. I approach almost everything with this skeptical way of thinking. If you've seen a psychologist that is trained in this subject matter, there's no way I'd treat you differently because you aren't straight. That is not the issue for me at all, anyone who does have an issue like that is not thinking hard enough. I have an issue more with the varying levels of learning people are doing about these labels before labeling themselves with them. Not that I think they are lying, just being a little too hasty and ruining other people's more legitimate experiences.

I don't want to sound dumb but what exactly is a pansexual? Some people tell me it's the same as a bisexual and others tell me it means that they like literally anything. I'm not sure what it is at this point. Does anyone here know?

>>7 I met someone who keeps changing how they identify their sexuality. At first she said she was a bisexual and after that she said she became a lesbian. I just looked at her like "Can you really switch preferences like that?" and she said of course you can. I didn't really get it. After that she went back to being bisexual and recently she claims to have become a pansexual which I said I have no idea what that is but okay. I feel like she doesn't know what she identifies as and she's just views sexuality as some type of trendy thing. I don't get it.

That being said I need to answer the question. I don't care if someone is asexual, gay, transgender or whatever. If they're an awesome person then they're awesome . We're all human in the end so it doesn't matter. The person just has different preferences than me. It's no different than me liking taller men or the next girl preferring shorter men.

>>7 I can agree with your confirmation bias.

I've heard a lot of people bitching, "I have insomnia" or "I have a migraine" when in truth, it's just confirmation bias.

Examples, "I have insomnia. I couldn't get to sleep last night."

Me, "I have insomnia, I haven't been able to sleep for a week"

Examples, "I have a migraine. I have a headache that's bad."

Me, "I have a migraine. It's crippling. I can't get out of bed. I feel like I'm going to vomit my guts out and the ground is spinning. Hell, sometimes it's so bad that I can't sleep for days."

As for pansexual, this statement rubs me the wrong way, even though I see your point. I'm a panromantic asexual. Did my research, tons of it. Kind of had to because you have to really dig to find the term asexual, unfortunately. Pansexual was slightly easier to find (though only slightly).

Being skeptical is okay. That's all chill if you're upfront with it. What's not chill is denying someone who they are. I had this just the other day. I told people I was asexual, as it was kind of brought up.

Their reaction, "The dictionary says "no sexual feelings"." When I gave them the ACTUAL definition of "no sexual attraction" They went on, "But you like sex! That's sexual attraction! You think bondage is hot! That's sexual attraction."

They would not let up, and one of them was demisexual (on the asexual spectrum).

So if you were like, "You sure you know what that means?" and you had doubts that I understood it, that's fine, but telling someoen that they aren't it and labeling them yourself is wrong.

I'm only pointing this out because it's a big deal in the asexual community. We stress that you cannot label someone because there is no way to know exactly how they feel. I'm not saying that you do this, just that you should be careful in your skepticism. There's a line there, don't cross it.

>>8 It's not dumb. There's a lot of misunderstanding about bisexuality and pansexuality. Namely, this confusion comes in the form of confusion of all of the gender identities.

You see, there's a widespread belief that the only two genders are male and female, therefor bisexuality means you're attracted to both genders.

However, there's a long beautiful list of genders. >>6 pointed out one little known one, but let me give you a basic but not complete list of a few genders.

agender (lack of gender)
male
female
bigender (two genders)
genderfluid (changing gender)
pangender (all of the genders)
polygender (more than two genders, but not all of them)
igender (gender must be defined before they label)
etc.

There's a shitton more. Trust me. I just didn't want your head to explode with how weird this can get.

so, a bisexual is sexually attracted to two on the way too long list of genders. Polysexual is attraction to more than two, but not all of them. From the prefix poly- meaning many. Pansexual is an idgaf view on genders.

So, as a panromantic, I don't consider gender when deciding if I'm romantically attracted to someone. I just decide on it based on my ideal partner.

Then there's this really weird thing that heterosexual cisgenders do that kind of make this more technical. Mostly males.

They'll be sexually attracted to a female, but if they find out it's a mtf female, they're all "ew that's gross".

This biggotry ads a bit of a technicality into the whole attraction thing, because it really does turn them off. So, technically, you could say you're attracted to transgender females or cisgender females. That doesn't make you bisexual, but it opens up a few new doors in terms of sexual attraction.

Because some people really do fetishize tenssexuals and trangenders.

So, in short labels have A LOT of gray areas for technicalities. But, with the myriad of genders, bisexual means sexually attracted to two genders. polysexual means you're attracted to more than two, but not all of them. Pansexual means that you don't consider gender at all when determining if you're attracted to someone.

Then there's another little nitch with the term omnisexual. Which I guess is the same thing as pansexual? I haven't looked into that enough to give a confident answer on that.

>>9I heard of everything on that list until I got to pangender. Most of what I know on sexuality comes from looking up terms in my spare. I found soooooooo many different ones I was mind blown and I got confused on what I was reading. I think it's weird that so many different sexualities existed and I never knew about it.

I think a lot of the confirmation bias comes from a person's lack of knowledge. That girl I mentioned, I don't think she even understands all the sexualities she mentioned. One minute she's a pansexual cause she says she doesn't discriminate and the next she says she's a bisexual because she thinks they're the same thing almost. She is what she but she has a bitch fit if you try to tell her she doesn't know what she's talking about. No one says she isn't either, they just say she's mixing the 2 up.

That aside, how come all these different genders aren't widely known? Do people just like to not acknowledge their existence for convenience? It seems like the idea is girls are girls and boys are boys and there are no other genders. Obviously that isn't true so I don't see why all these different genders aren't acknowledged.

>>7 The main reason I doubt is because there are so many that do little research and really don't fit the label before they proclaim it to be the truth. Any skepticism (not even someone thinking they know better) is labelled as discrimination, not accepting who they are, etc.

This isn't even extremely common, but that it happens at all and isn't actively fought against is concerning me. It's what people think of when they think of this movement, so it's pretty important we eradicate that shit.

At the end of the day, I see it like people labeling themselves "Aspergers" (or just "autistic" if they're that stupid) because they don't have very many friends and they are smart. This is a gross over-simplification of both conditions and it shows they really don't have a clue what either entails. So, if I internally label them as something (anything) different than Aspergers, I don't consider this to be discriminatory or morally wrong.

But, I have to do my own research to challenge that. I also have to actually learn about all this stuff to think of someone as wrong. This is the difference between someone thinking critically about your claim and someone saying "You just haven't met someone right yet". Unfortunately, they both lead to a disbelief in what you are saying, but one of them is thoughtless while the other is extremely thoughtful. In this case, when I have done extensive research on Autism and Aspergers, telling someone they aren't it doesn't seem like a huge moral issue. It's not like my word is final (despite my reading, I am not an expert), but when they've clearly not thought it out it's hard for me to accept their diagnosis. I can only go on what they tell me.

I think people hesitate to question or call out people who have the same conclusion as them, even when their reasoning is bad. I have stopped giving a shit about this and I will call out someone who says "You can't not be sexually attracted to anyone! They're just late bloomers!". And I will call out people that tell me they are asexual if they are 12 years old and haven't even gone through puberty yet (there is such a thing as too early to tell). It's simplistic, uninformed bullshit, and while being skeptical may also change the way I see them, I think it's worth it to weed out people who don't think.

I get a lot of flak for my skepticist views because people usually think if you aren't accepting their diagnosis, you are denying the existence or morality of the condition or experience as a whole. What I'm really trying to get at is: that is not the case.

I Recently read an article on our school paper about this and it made me smile because the writer of that column supports The LGBT+ community.. :3 :3 i was just curious about each and everyone's opinions on this topic though , because, from what ihave heard, Same Sex marriage became legel in all the states of US.. :3 :3 :) :) it just made us happy!!!

sorry i'm still immature, i'm still young you know.. :) :)