Ok, here's a fun little game for everyone. It's +1 if you think it's a woman and -1 if you think it's a man. At around post number 50 I'll tell you the answer and give you another pic. Put what you think it is and the running total at the end of your post.
(IE:
Man
-1
-1
Woman
+1
0)

-1

Because of Barabi's post. That is why.

-1

Doesn't matter. I'm still all about that.

/ifyouknowwhatimean

+1

+1

Running total: +1

It has no boobs.

Even "flat chested" girls have some boob to them.

The face... it looks too pointy

-1 Just questioning weather it's a guy, or a girl in the first place makes me suspicious as to weather it's really a chick.

>>7 I've seen girls men. Really girly men.

+1 because I really really hope it's a chick

Man.

If you're gonna make this a game, you should at least make it more difficult.

-1 Just by analyzing its everything

Running total:

0

No, wait...

Tsuki didn't put the number.

So, running total:

-1

Can I do one? I think I've got a good one.

>>15
Is it NaeBree?

>>16 /o/ Nice one.

>>16 /o/
Yaya wins the thread.

>>16 >>17 >>18 Guys... >:I

>>135 -Can't find self in there- Thanks guys. Love you too.

>>16 >>17 >>18 ;D
>>19 :P

>>20 Wrong thread, Fagvana.

>>19 You act as if you actually like her.

Lolghgjkagjga

wait, you really do.

>>16 ­•⌂•

-1

Have you seen any Jrock bands? Those dudes can look feminine. I'm not sure about any other ones.

-1
>>26 Ikr?
My sister showed me pics of people cross-dressing and Jrock bands, and just by analyzing, I think it's a male.

-1 because I'm a suspicious person.

Running total: -4.

Remember to put the running total at the end of your posts, everyone.

+1

Running Total: -3

+1

-2

-1
Running Total: -3

+1

Er, guys? I think the running total is off a bit. Name screwed up in >>14. He had it right the first time :|

>>2->>33
-1, 1, 1, -1, 1, -1, -1, -1, -1, 1, 1, -1, 1

-1... 7
1... 6

Runing Total: -1

-1 MAN.

Running Total: -2

>>34 What about Tsuki saying "Man." without putting a number? Wouldn't that count as a -1?

>>37 Oh. I thought he had just meant man, as in, "man"... Not as in MAN, related to the picture. Fuck.

Guys, just put the numbers :|

Running Total: -3

>>41 Ninja'd.

-1 Dude's got an adam's apple. In my line of work, we have to know who is who and what is what. That's a dude, bro.

>>43 This. -1

Running Total: -5

I don't know how you all can find entertainment in this. Unless she identifies as a man, the original post is of a woman.

>>45 I find it fun. I have a couple pretty androgynous friends, and we'll dress them up in the opposite sex and ask people to guess their gender. It's just a humorous thing; no need to take offense.

For the game, whoever posts the picture knows the actual gender of the person, and they reveal it later. Skirt or not, she could be a he.

>>46 up like*

>>46 No offense taken. I just...don't get it. Biologically, the person is probably male since, you know, that's the name of the game. But like I said, the individual probably identifies as female (hence why she dresses as such), and therefore is a woman.

>>48 It's a cosplay, Kol. You don't have to be a transvestite to dress up as the opposite sex for a cosplay shoot. Even if you are a male transvestite, that /still/ doesn't mean you identify as a woman. Some are just men who like women's clothing. Anyway, considering it's a cos-shot that was done professionally, he/she was probably paid to do it. It doesn't matter what you're gender is if you look the part, and just because you cosplay as a girl, that doesn't mean you go around telling people you're a woman. You don't have to identify as it to dress up as it.

>>49 your*

>>49 But even if you look at it that way, wouldn't the subject matter still be considered female? Is that not the point? If you're having a drag queen perform, more often than not the goal is for that individual to pass while on stage; the subject matter being recognized as female. For example, in Shakespearean theatre, men played female roles, but the subject matter still was considered female even if people knew the obvious. Today, drag is mostly played for laughs in mass media but the concept is largely intact.

And as much as this makes me a hypocrite, I get really annoyed at crossdressers in general. As for transvestites, they piss me off so bloody much because they do not do any favors to the LGBT community, so to speak.

>>51

The point is that traps are fun, and deciding whether the gender is trap or legit is also fun.

End of story. This has nothing to do with higher thinking, morals, or ethical quandaries. It's simple, stupid, fun. Go pop a balloon, that's about the same thing.

>>51 Not all transvestites are gay :| And not all of them are obnoxiously flambouyant, either. Being someone who has close friends on both sides of that community, I find it rather offensive that people assume that.

>>52 This. This thread is honestly just for fun, and I don't see what the problem is.

/topic change

Welp the 50 posts are up.

Andddddddddd the results: Female!

Her name is Sakura Hinoki and apparently, she's a popular cosplayer in Japan. Whoever wants to post another picture, feel free to do so since I don't think Colorless Energy should be doing all the work.

Well, I've got one. Here we go ^

>>56 (S)He has boob.

+1

Running total: 1

-1

See >>56 for current picture.
Running Total: 0

-1

And by the way, when exactly are we going to stop each uh, photo?

I think 50 posts it a bit much since we only have 1337 posts in a thread. That's less than 30 pictures.

Total : -1

>>52 Eh, to each their own.

>>53 I don't recall discussing sexuality in my post, but I will point out a few things. First, all transvestites are fetishistic, because that is the very definition of a transvestite. Second, you cannot deny that a portion of the community tend to be radical in their expression, and from what I've seen and heard, transvestites are the worst offenders. Crossdressers are less eccentric and more composed, but, as a transsexual, it really pisses off. And not much will change my opinion on the matter.

>>60 Even if it's only thirty pictures, I think it's best. I guess we could decrease it to thirty or forty posts. Unless you can magically stop everyone from chatting on here, you can't really go by number of votes. I mean, we could say after every 25 votes, but if people comment without voting, then we could get to sixty posts before we have 25 votes :|

Anyway, yeah. I say after every 40 posts.

See >>56 for the current picture.
Running Total: -1
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>>61 You said they didn't do favors for the LGBT community, implying that they're related to the LGBT community in any way. And there's no difference between a transvestite and a crossdresser aside from frequency; a transvestite is almost always crossdressing, and a normal crossdresser just does it every now and again.

Anyway, end of discussion about that on this thread. Don't feel like inflating the number of posts anymore than necessary.

>>63 Um, no. A transvestite dresses for sexual pleasure. Look it up. The fetish is what differentiates a transvestite from a crossdresser. And technically, they fall under the Transgender umbrella. Hence the social stigma for transvestites gets passed down onto transgendered and transsexual individuals. I don't know how to make it any clearer than that.

>>64 I'm wrong, whatever, don't feel like explaining shit. Just stop commenting on this thread. Can you /not/ see that we were discussing a problem with the vote/post ratio? =o=

>>65 Nice copout there, Barabi. I'm actually a little surprised you're acting like this. If there's something that needs to be explained, I'd sure as hell like to hear it. This is something of a sore subject for me, if it hasn't become painfully obvious yet.

MKOLLER, shut up and leave the thread alone

Besides, all immediate insight into the topic says you're wrong regarding transvestites. Even the word's Etymology.

I looked it up. Found no legitimate sources that supported your definition of a transvestite.

See >>56 for the current picture.
Running Total: -1
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>>67 This.
Now, to all of you: if you're not voting, don't comment.

Aya, did you even read what you linked?

Origin of the term
Magnus Hirschfeld coined the word transvestism (from Latin trans-, "across, over" and vestitus, "dressed") to refer to the sexual interest in cross-dressing.

a person and especially a male who adopts the dress and often the behavior typical of the opposite sex especially for purposes of emotional or sexual gratification

In recent times (2000-2009), many people who go in for wearing the clothes of the opposite sex have become unhappy with the word ‘transvestite’. They prefer to describe themselves as ‘cross-dressers’. (Really? I wonder why? May have something to do with the above definition not fitting them).

Look, the stigma is all I'm trying to point out here. I'm sorry if I have to go all "Stop Having Fun Guys" for a minute but this only started because I expressed that I didn't get it, and I got called out for apparently not knowing something that I damn well know plenty about.

Barabi's definitions were wrong. I tried to clarify that because yes, I did take some offense. It's a sore subject. If Barabi's going to fight me tooth and nail over something like Gender Identity and Expression, then by God I'm going to fight back. And I'll finish what I started, by God.

>>56 +1

>>69 I'm not fighting you, I just want you to shut up so we can continue the FUCKING thread.

I'm starting to get pissed, Kol. Fuck off already. I already admitted I was wrong, and you're being a direspectful little cunt fucker for taking this off topic even further after being asked MULTIPLE times to shut the fuck up. If you want to discuss this, bring it to another fucking thread. Don't drag it on where it's not fucking welcome. Screw off already.

See >>56 for the current picture.
Running Total: 0
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If you're not voting, don't comment.

>>71 Shutting up. Barabi, please email me. mkollersms@gmail.com. I need to talk to you in private.

Will you guys stop derailing this thread for a petty argument?

I see boobage so +1

Running Total: +1

Please keep the new running total in your posts, guys :O

Fuck. And, this:
See >>56 for the current picture.

Its a guy

Its a guy .. the person wouldn't ask what you thought it was a female or male if the question wasnt male .. I have seen some really convincing male Asian people dressing up like females, like you could never tell

-1

Running Total: -1
See >>56 for the current picture.

It is actually a female ... Drag the picture into google and you come up with heaps of images of them

-1, That has to be a guy.

>>56 He's a man. He's a model, right?

>>16 >>17 >>18 >>21 >>24
I look liek the gender i am. Female. Evident by the softer fetured face, longer eyelashes, smaller neck and shoulders, and, of course, the whole tits-and-female-genitalia bit.

So, SHUT THE FUCK UP. Seriously. I have not done one thing since i came back to warrant such asshole behavior. SO, please, quit it.

And to not derail the thread completely, -1.

>>56 That is a male name is Andrej Pejic

>>85 Obligatory: Fuck you.
It's not your place to give the name and gender before the guessing for that picture is done.

Final Total: -4

Guessing for this picture has ended; the result:
This is a male model named Andrej Pejic. He frequently does women's wear.
Someone please post a new picture.

>>88 +1 for feminine hands.

Running total: +1

>>88 +1, as I don't see an adam's apple.

+1. Running total: +3.

>>88 for current pic. I vote +1
running total +4

>>88 I vote -1. The eyes throw me off..

- 1 .. Hands are too small to be males

>>95 You mean +1 in that case.

yer +1 lol

See >>88 for the current picture.

Running total: +5

Totally a girl, +1

Running total +6

das some hot stuff

How many posts before I post the final count and result?

-1

>>101 Let's just go with thirty. So, roughly after >>118.
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See >>88 for current picture.
Running total: +5

I'm gonna go with woman so +1
Running total +6
And sorry for not answering the first pic. I was at work all day yesterday -.- but according to the source where I got the first pic from it's a man.

>>106 Your source was wrong, bro :O Backtrace it. Sakurai Hinoki is the name, and boobs is the game I see clevage.

>>107 I guess you have a point there

>>88 -1
It's probably a guy. I can tell by the jawline. When you watch enough Kpop, you know.

I want to do the next picture though /o/

-1

Hands, eyes, jawline are all masculine.

-1
Eyes,jaw,hands and shoulders.

>>109 >>110 >>111 Guys. C'mon. Running total: +3

>>88 -1

-1 Because if she really was a girl you would've not asked ^^

Running total +1
You guys really need to remember to put this at the end of your posts