THE PEOPLE I LIVE WITH ARE USING ME AS A SLAVE TAKING AWAY MY BELONGINGS PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HELP ME GET OUT THE ABUSIVE PLACE I BEG ANYONE I NEED IMMEDIATE HELP !!!!!!!! THEY KEEP BULLING ME KEEPING ME TRAPPED HELP ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I NEED TO GET OUT OF HERE SOMEONE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if it's that serious you really need to call the police

HOW?? where are you, how can we help you, what are they soing exactly?

We are the dillars we help each ither instead if policemen

Why would you say this stuff with no info? What are we supposed to do... Hope. If you want help tell us more.

everyone can ignore me in case im 'wrong' but I just tried for 3 weeks to help this person. I did everything someone could possibly do anonymously from thousands of miles away without letting them move into my own home (they asked me if I knew someone that would let them move in several times) or buying them their own place (neither of which I can do financially).

They refuse to contact shelters/DCF on their own, and unfortunately every shelter i contacted, and DCF would not talk to me about helping them. The abused party has to contact DCF and go through an evaluation process, which is horrible and only postpones the process of actually helping someone.

If im wrong, please ignore me and help this person, But if this is the same person I tried to help - They're from Virginia, USA. Why give out that info? Because I can't do anything as one person. I have failed to do this on my own but I will gladly leave the dollars if I cant count on you all right now to keep it together.

I've contacted several shelters in Virginia to no avail. All of them have either directed me to someone else, or needed more information which this person is not willing to give, understandably. I asked each shelter to contact this person through email, as it seems email and this website are the only means of communication for them and as far as I know, there was no contact.

Start looking for shelters around Maryland, Pennsylvania, West Virginia and send the contact info here, emails and phone numbers. I will call these places myself.

But please tell them that the abused party apparently cannot directly communicate with them -- I can't explain why, these are the limitations the abused party is setting. So yes I'm breaking the rules because we need a collective effort here.

I've been attempting to help with only one other person and they have also reported the communication with the abused party as ambiguous. If anyone can get a clear read on this, please bring it to light because if I am wrong, and this is a different person - than this persons method to getting help will get them no where.

Granted they only have a small time frame to speak, as they are never far from their abusers. They do not have anything in their name, a phone, a car, a job, only a college student ID. We have every right to believe them so leave the skepticism to me. Why do I think this is the same person? to start - Speech Patterns, Punctiation, Word usage - the only thing different here is cap locks.
https://dollars-bbs.org/personal/res/1587078968.html
you tell me.

I've been trying for weeks man, we need to find a way to help people in these kinds of situations one way of another. This person did not make it easy to help them, and neither did the shelters. Something is off. Be weary.

OP feel free to tell us you're not in Virginia, and that I am dead wrong. Please tell us where we need to start looking for shelters.

Just to reiterate since I said to much

OP please tell us what state you are in so we can start contacting shelters.

One person can't do it alone, unless they're making that kind of money to set you up without making a dent in their bank account- sorry but I'm not. and if you are well off, bro wtf are you waitin for. If someone can help financially, and this is the same person who I tried to help before - I can verify their email and story so you can ignore other potential liars.

MAIN POINT. I cant do it alone, and Jocan can't do what the shelters in their area are asking, so I'm looking out of state.
Hell, anywhere on the god damn east coast that will talk to Jocan through email - I will pay for the transportation.

Just wow, I don't think I'd ever went that far to help someone online. But you sparked something within me. So the plan is to have someone living near OP's vicinity to help him/her get through the shelter's procedure?

I'm not an American nor living in America, so I can't do much to help either. But is it wise to share this information around?

OP if you had the resources to write an anonymous thread on a BBS site, I suggest using the same resources to get in contact with the police or trying to give us a bit information that might help you. I don't know if you're 'jocan' but if you are, omverse did their best. I'm not American either so I don't think I'll be able to help. I still agree with >>2

The concern is if the individual State has restrictions that perhaps other States don't.

the idea is to get in contact with someone who works at a shelter and see if they would be willing to contact OP directly.

I still support the idea of OP's full information remaining private to us, and vice-versa. So once we get in touch with a shelter that is willing to help, OP can give the address to the shelter themselves.

I second the idea that OP is ignoring many answers available for them and almost going out of their way to get a very particular kind of help. I won't speculate so much about that, as I will state that If this is the worst case scenario:

OP needs a quick extraction from their home. The least amount of conflict, the better. Which is why I understand the need to abandon the shelters evaluation methods; as it will risk exposure to OP's plan, and endanger them further.

If we can get OP in contact with someone, or if there is a shelter willing to speak to an anonymous party on OP's behalf.
Thats the main goal. If anyone googles 'abuse shelters' followed by any of the above states, you will find many facilities. Email them and ask them if an outside party can represent an abused party, and let them know we can pay for transportation out of their OP's household and get them to safety. If they respond, you can forward the email to me, or post it here omverse . dollars @ gmail . com

OP please step in so I can shut my mouth

Since theres no way to tell this is the same person...

once again Dollars, keep it together. The shelter willing to help this person are the only eyes that will see OP's direct information.
If someone can't get help on this website, why are we here? This is general information and not enough to find someone.

We need to know where to look for shelters and we're flying blind.


OP please answer theses questions so we can help you.

what is your general location?
how old are you?
male or female?
do you have a phone, wallet, license?
any scars or wounds that can be used as evidence?
rural or city area?

any information you could provide us at all will help us find who can help.

deleted post #10 was me, rewrote the last post.

Last night I emailed a few shelters in Pennsylvania, waiting to hear back from them now. If anyone else wants to jump in with any of the other states omverse suggested, I'm sure they'd appreciate the help.

Please chime in everyone, we need ideas. How do we help abused parties with limited means of communication?

How can we properly AND SAFELY gather information about the abused party?

How can we properly and safely get that information to the shelter who would help. The current experience is that Most shelters require an evaluation process, lets assume this is not possible.

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Some questions

Can google hangouts make phone calls to landlines?

Any free, silent, safe web browsers that can make a call to a landline?

If someone that calls cant speak, how do they communicate?

Can you dial additional numbers during a wifi call, and get a tone?

Would the recipient of a call be able to recognize 'SOS' in morse if OP pressed buttons instead of speaking?

Obviously we cant teach someone morse enough to explain their situation - how would a shelter find them from there? IP address?

What else is there?

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A solution I can see is- three people involved
The Abused Party, The Info Broker, and The Messenger

The abuse party gives the info to the information broker ---
someone trusted, preferable in a different country than the abused party for the comfort of the abused party,
someone with status willing to relay a message is all. 

The info broker brings the information to the Messenger ---
Another trusted, willing participant, who will call the shelter and act as the abused party
With all the information provided and a bit of voice acting we can get to the next step...



The problem is, i don't know what that next step would be.

does the pick up happen immediately?
or will they go a couple days later to evaluate the living situation before deciding they're being abused?

...And in turn ruining all of our effort to reduce the danger OP is in.

Because if the Abusers convince the Shelter/DCF that OP is not being abused, it won't be good when they leave.

Thoughts? Please weigh in

OP, I've made an email account if you'd like to have another person you can talk to. It's shima.dollars@gmail.com, feel free to reach out any time. If you are actually Jocan, you might recognize my ID from your previous thread - no judgement, I just want to help and know that you're okay. If you aren't Jocan, the offer still stands. I hope you're managing to stay safe, please let us know if you are.

(Disclaimer since this is technically against the rules of this forum - this email account isn't connected to anything that can identify who I am. I'm only using for communicating anonymously with other members of the site.)

>>14 Google hangouts can make calls to landlines and mobile phones. With a Google voice account (free to make) you can make free calls to most places in the US & Canada. International calls are free for the 1st minute I believe.

For someone who can't speak, I imagine the only way to communicate is by pressing buttons. Like how when you call a company and their answering machine asks you questions - press 1 if X, press 2 if Y, etc. But that can be tedious if the phone call isn't about a very specific situation.

SOS in morse code is just ...---... and I think that even if that isn't common knowledge, most people would recognize the pattern eventually if the dialer continues it for long enough. The existence of morse code is common knowledge, so if the listener knows that the context of the phonecall is that of a domestic violence situation then I could see a person coming to understand the message quite quickly.

Not so sure about the other questions, hopefully someone else can chime in or I can take some time later to try and do some research.

I'm the same as >>7 btw

So I've emailed several shelters I could find online, still waiting for replies

About the morse thing, I think OP could rythemically tap on the microphone during the call. It would produce almost no sound, but it'll be deafening on the other side. But I'm wondering if the receiver would get it as a call for help or a mere troll.

Still not sure about the other question of omverse, currently researching around.

ok so ive come to understand that Jocan is not yet able to attend classes yet at a physical address.


If OP or anyone else in this situation visits a place regularly, on a schedule, we can get a phone to them.

In regards to Jocan - If this has to take that long, until their town opens up and they return to their classes..

Then I can send a phone to the college for Jocan to use. Small/Compact/can be easily muted and can be stored on the body without going noticed. Lets assume as well that Jocan/OP does not have heavy, baggy clothing to hide something like this in.
Any Ideas? What phone should I look for? what brand?


Within the college, We can get in touch with a guidance counselor, HR representative, Perhaps even a part of the student body through social media.

We can send a phone to whomever is willing to understand Jocan's situation and not make a decision were not prepared for.

They can then have the phone activated and ready to make a call when Jocan/OP is ready.

If our college-campus consort works for the college, we can make an excuse to get Jocan/OP alone into the office to make the call. "A routine administrative student evaluation." Something on the record that excuses why Jocan/OP might not be where they should at any given time.

Do we have any more update regarding this?