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Is Magic real ? (15)

1 Name: Kira : 2019-02-18 21:56 ID:bCQ1VN0x [Del]

For the longest time now for some reason as of lately I have been wondering if magic is real and I feel crazy about it and it's been driving me nuts so if any of guys have been researching about it or is an info broker please either dossaprove it's existence or prove it does all if found was that actually called magick and this is all satanic practices so please help thanks 👍

2 Name: Banka : 2019-02-19 16:17 ID:syorOJaa [Del]

Yes. It is real. But it deals with some stuff of the other world. But there are some stuff that most people call magic which are actually just a few hand tricks. But I guarantee you 100% it exists, it's the art of our great grandfathers, also mentioned in all the religions and most histories as well.!

3 Name: lofi : 2019-02-19 19:27 ID:cy1MM1eO [Del]

yep^^ lets just say most of the things ppl call "magic" these days isn't the real thing. magic is most definitely real.

4 Name: Kira : 2019-02-19 21:33 ID:9TgGpR3H [Del]

Have u performed it before and did it work

5 Name: Firion !ZeMESPtKtE : 2019-02-20 08:11 ID:0moczDDE [Del]

magic is real, it broke the laws of nature either way. Demon is a real deal, satan is the underlings that few human ask for other worldly power called magic. My friend said that his father can do stuff with them, even talk to them.

His story goes on his childhood, his father brings him to a small box of wood with him. My friend sat on his father's lap, just surrounded by the darkness inside that small wooden box big enough to fit both of them in. He said that they were there for like 3 hour or so, his father is having an idle talk with otherworldly being and he brought his son.

Later on when he is a bit older, he can do the same stuff. Just sitting somewhere in the dark, for hours. He told me they're just having an idle talk. Normal stuff like 'how's school', 'what is your age' (in my country, its a normal thing to know someone's age), 'how's life', they're living around us but we're unable to even acknowledge them.

He once told me that his father's ability is so high that he could find water source deep underground if someone asks him by just stepping around the designated area. He will step in one place and kinda said 'dig here' to the person that asks his help.

I know that this 'magic' is just a small portion of what it can do, and I know there will be people that insist on telling that this is just bs. Can't help it, but how does news media supposed to report supernatural power in the first place.

6 Name: Kira : 2019-02-23 15:39 ID:3lIJDVRU [Del]

Now my question is who would u be able to obtain that knowledge ? Is there like anlibary for magic or what ?

7 Name: Moose : 2019-02-24 15:28 ID:Z4J8l65q [Del]

Okay, so I'm just going to bring some common sense to this post because apparently there's a big deficiency here...

Magic as in magic tricks is real, but that's just knowing how to manipulate people to do what you want them to do while you do the good ol' switcheroo on them.

Magic as a supernatural thing, on the other hand is ,as far as we know, -and we know a lot on the subject- not real. There is this movement called skeptism which consists of people trying to find out what is realy and what is bullshit using critical thinking and the tools of both research and precision that science brought us.

One very good resource that may help convince you of the very small possibility of the existence of the supernatural -so small it is basically negligeable- would be the James Randi Educational Foundation and its Million Dollar Challenge. Basically, this man called James Randi, who was a very well known illusionnist, started out this foundation in 1996 and publicly promissed to give 1 million dollar to whoever could demonstrate to the association throught both agreed conditions that they were in possession of magic powers, or anything conserning the super natural. This would include espers, aliens, homeopathy, astrology, seeing the future, etc. To this day, more than 20 years later, lots of people have come to try and claim the price, but they either made non testable claims (ex: someone said they thought about a close relative and seconds later, received a call from that very relative, and are atributing this to something supernatural) or the association was easily able to find a trick behind what the person was doing.

If you are interested and want more information, here's links to the wiki page of the foundation as well as to the foundation's own website:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Randi_Educational_Foundation

https://web.randi.org


Now in theory, this does not disprove that magic does not exist. In science, it is not possible to prove the inexistence of a thing or a phenomen. That's called the white crow crow paradox (basically, no matter how many regular black crows you observe, this does not affect the possibility of a white crow existing somewhere in the universe: it simply lowers the probability of the fact. However, if you do end up observing a white crown, you have no choice but to accept that not all crows are black). However, after more than 20 years of reasearch, and considering the number of supernatural claims that are made all around the Earth, you would expect that if magic was real, someone who actually has special abilities would have seriously claimed the million dollars and earned it.

PS: If I somehow came out as mean or trying to be a smart ass in this post, I trully apologize, as this is in no way my intent. Just a nerd about that subject and may also have a hard time transcribing emotions through text. Anyway, hope this was insightful and wish you a great day




8 Name: Damn? : 2019-02-24 23:15 ID:I6QaBTK7 [Del]

The lack of existence of magic or thec lack of individual claiming that they can do magic doesn't disprove the existence of magic.

9 Name: Firion !ZeMESPtKtE : 2019-02-25 08:04 ID:Yddmr9WY [Del]

>>7 So the logic goes :

If you have a magical abilities to get money from 'god knows where' unlimitedly (wait, is that a word?), why would you prove yourself to have magic powers just to get a million dollars when you can have more and prevent anyone from learning your trick.

10 Name: Moose : 2019-02-25 13:06 ID:jhSZSkXE [Del]

>>8 Indeed. Seems, however, very unlikely that it exists. Every phenomen that were earlier explained throught magic of a greater force can now be explained with science. Our knowledge on physics, chemestry, biology, psychology etc., although still far from being complete, is bigger than ever and as long as we don't find anything pointing to the existence of magic/a greater force, there is no reason to assume there is one. That of course does not mean we should stop to search for it, but we should do it through a neutral and unbiased eye.

>>9 I mean in that specific case, for sure that person would have no reason to manifest itself. But the large majority of the people who claim to have supernatural powers don't "use"them for free. So for all these espers or future seers etc., I see no reason as to why they would say no tosome easy money as well as the recognition of having beaten the jref's challenge.

11 Name: Okami : 2019-02-25 19:14 ID:YT1j8+O0 [Del]

"Magic" is one of the oldest words we use to give name to something we cannot explain yet with the science and knowledges we currently posses. Magic will be real as long as events we are not able to comprehend still exist.

12 Name: Kira : 2019-03-03 21:28 ID:/oC6TtJw [Del]

In this case would it be pointless to study about it ? Where would u start

13 Name: Kira : 2019-03-14 09:32 ID:lOMwyZ0m [Del]

Any more comments ?

14 Name: M_ : 2019-03-14 10:49 ID:ulBEoqr/ [Del]

It's Metaphysical, so you can't really be sure. That being said i don't think it'd be something like casting fire balls.

15 Name: Shade : 2019-11-09 17:29 ID:GzcjQfax [Del]

I truly think it is, but I think it`s different for everyone, depending on what you need or who you are.

I`ve been keeping track of every time I will someone to do or not to do something, and it`s really quite odd. I spent a month using `magic`, the most recurring example being my mother coming in to turn my lamp off (I usually fall asleep whilst reading) For a month, I purposely left my lamp on and waited for my mum to come upstairs. Every night, my mum would approach my door (which is the only door on the left of the stairs) and then stop and leave when I willed her to.

My method? Envisioning a red wall where my door was. Out of interest, I tried a green wall once, and she came in. I tried a blue wall a few weeks ago, and as far as I can tell, it`s a 50-50 chance of either her entering or ignoring my room. So I think that colour symbolism affects it.

Of course, there were anomalies. During the 30 period of using `magic`, she came in once when I didn`t intend for her to. However, that night I was already half asleep by the time she came upstairs. And for the no-`magic` month, where she was supposed to come in as she always did every night, she didn't. However, this time SHE was very tired.

So I think it requires concentration, and your subject to be in a somewhat flexible mind state- that is, not fixated on anything, such as going to sleep because they`re tired.

The no-`magic` month went smoothly, with my mum coming in to turn my lamp off every night, excluding that aforementioned exception.

As for what I said at the beginning about it depending on the person, as to what kind of magic a person can use, I came to that conclusion through reading other people`s experiences. Some people seemed to be able to enhance people`s sporting performances (which I had also had success in), some people seem like they can manipulate water or objects and so on.

As for me, I think that I`m best with non-physical things, such as -well, not mind control, but more like sliding suggestions into peoples minds that aren`t drastic, and enhancing sporting capabilities for a short period of time or for one particular action.

In conclusion, I do think that magic is real, although `magic` is a very wide term. However, I would never rely on magic to solve a problem or to pass a test, because it`s not proven to be 100% reliable, and personally, I don`t think it ever will be. It`s not something you can measure or predict.

I know this is pretty long, haha. If you got to the bottom, woah! Thanks!