I realized that many people are gay or lesbian or transe in the present. It is like every second or third person has a wrong gender or would be attracted by the same sex. This is surprising because there were not so many lesbian/gay or trans people in the past. I started to think why so many LGBT people suddenly exist. I wonder if this has something to do with our society that people become gay or lesbian so often? There must be a reason for this, or? This is not normal.

> there were not as many LGBT people in the past
You can't be this dense, this has to be a troll.

>>1 Erm sorry to burst your tiny bubble of the world and history it is not a modern trend.

copy and past this link to wiki -

brothels,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_LGBT_history_in_the_United_Kingdom

you're very uneducated, theres been plenty of lgbt people in the past, thats why the lgbt movement started. People who didnt know about lgbt+ now have something to identify with.

Also how isnt gay normal? gay couples have been reported in multiple animals.

The main difference now is they can freely speak who they truly are. In the past they would have been executed and shamed. But why would nature create people who are wired for one sex, but are physically another?

In history there is much evidence that not everyone was straight. It wasn't until the church gained power when people started to hide it.

Everyone pretty much summed up this question, would it be alright to sage this post from now on.

But yeah, a lot were already LGBT before the movement even began. Only now they can be open about without prosecution.

>>2 No I'm not a troll. Here are many trolls, but here are normal users too.

>>3 Why am I undereducated? I feel like everybody is gay or lesbian now because we are taught that these people exists. I feel that this knowledge influences us and makes us lgbt. Like children that play to many shooter games want to kill people irl. And people who hear to much of lgbt start to think that they could be transe or gay/lesbian too. I think half of these peoples are maybe not really transe/gay/lesbian.

>>5 Yes, this is what I am asking myself. I believe in God and I believe in the sense of life. I believe that everything life creates is right. This is why I beliebig that it is right when I'm born as a girl, that I have to stay a girl, because I AM a girl by nature. Also when I have more male hormons, I am a male girl, but a girl.

>>7 PFFT "Like children that play to many shooter games want to kill people irl" oh god you're one of those people.

you'd be surprised not everyone is in the lgbt+ group, the world is becoming more accepting (unlike you) the media is finally bringing lgbt issues to light.

Let people do what they want with their lives and bodies, theyre not harming anyone.

Shiro it is true that children who play shooter games are more aggressive!

Yes they do not harm anybody, but they do something strange. I only feel that it is not right and these people will regret it someday.

>>9 you're ignorant as fuck honestly. Just because you dont feel the same, it doesnt others feel the same as you. I have trans friends, theyre so much more happy being who they really are.

Nobody has to cater to YOUR needs

>>7
>I believe that everything life creates is right.

Fine. So, why are physically disabled persons existing again?

>>11 (Adding on)if women are born to create then why are some born infertile

>>10 I will accept them but they should accept my opinion too.

>>11 & >>12 You really became too good friends. But I can explain it. It is that humans shall learn to love everybody even disabled people. It is maybe a punishment for parents who were not very nice before and made fun of disabled people and then they will get a disabled child.

>>13 you cant seem to love trans people

>>13 You'll definitely get transgender kids, idiot.

>>7 "I believe that everything life creates is right. This is why I beliebig that it is right when I'm born as a girl, that I have to stay a girl, because I AM a girl by nature. Also when I have more male hormons, I am a male girl, but a girl."

About this quote you said, I'll offer a different view. If God creates everything right, then why are Transgender people wrong? Don't you think he could have intentionally created someone to be transgender?

Actually, medical professionals recognise trans people as the gender they identify with rather than the one they were assigned at birth and that is because Gender Dysphoria is recognised by doctors. So yes, that means a trans boy is a real boy and a trans girl is a real girl.

>>16 No because if God wanted people to be female then he had made them female and if he wanted them to be male, he had made them male dammit!

I don't know anything about the medical aspect, but it is ethnic incorrect to be a transe.

>>17 fuck off

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https://youtu.be/w3v3S82TuxU

>>13 If we were to use an analogy, you're a baby that no one loves purely because of how your mere presence is an insult to someone.

>>17 God is a fucking dick and placed the soul of a guy in a girl. Jesus, there's your explanation, now go fuck a dick.

>>7 The reason people call you a troll is because of how you follow a very common progression in threads for trolls:
1) Post an opinion, question or statement which is likely to rile other users and incite dramatically debate. This is commonly called 'bait'.
2) Defend original post without changing their stance,
3) Add more opinions or statements which only enhance their original stance to rile users further.

Most people don't get called trolls on purpose unless they're diabolically retarded.

>>17 God wants people to be trans. Trans people are the gender they identify with. It's really that simple.

Seriously think about why being trans is ethically wrong, because it sure as hell isn't hurting anyone. It's not like people get to choose to be trans or not.
And if you don't have an understanding of the important key facts about being trans I'd suggest you take the time to learn before you call people ethically incorrect. Gender Dysphoria is a really good place to start.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and believe you're not a troll because I've seen you post more normal things in the past but if you are, I'm sorry you have nothing better to do.

>>20 I think trolls are trolls on purpose. I saw it when Chronos was trolling here. They do not state their opinion, they say what nobody wants to hear. I am not. I just wanted to know why people are LGBT. I can't help when other people are offending me because of this question. I wanted a peaceful conversation here, but Shiro and Chronos and others are telling me to fuck off. They are the trolls here, not I! If you want to be an ass then get out of this thread NZP!

>>21 I am really not a troll. I just think that it isn't natural, but a illness, which should be cured instead of that these people change their gender. They think they are the other gender because their hormone is wrong. If they get the right hormones they would be fine. This is why I think that they should not change their gender. I don't hate them. I don't want to say that they are wrong. I want to say that I can't imagine it. But it is alright to tell me something else, like Kaisuke gave me a wikipedia link. I don't know so much because I have no TV and no computer, my family is very strict. I really didn't come here to fight. I only became angry because Shiro was acting like a big asshole here. But I will be nice now if everybody else is also nice to me.

>>22 There are many types of trolls, you know.

"They think they are the other gender because their hormone is wrong." This is wrong. There are many trans people out there, and this generalization is simply false.
Some just believe they are born in the wrong body. That's it.
People are just different.

>>22 If you're on this bbs you definitely do have access to the Internet to read up some things. But if you want to know why people are lgbt I could tell you that.
Trans people are transgender because they have gender dysphoria, which is a feeling of discomfort or distress towards your assigned gender. It's a little bit like having a brain that doesn't match your body. It isn't considered a mental illness as much these days, but treatment of it is to transition. There is no other way to treat it right now.

And people who are Gay are just born that way, they're gay for the same reason you're straight. It's just not something that could be helped.