Since 2015 there is a refugee crisis in Europe. I think everybody has heard it. The media does not show a lot about it now, but there are still refugees from Syria or other northern African countries coming to Europe. I life in France and here is also the effects are noticeable. But more effect is on Italy and Austria. We had a great debate in school about how we should treat refugees. Not only the refugees who come to France, we talked about whole Europe. I know we must help those peoples, but there are also terrorists coming to Europe and the terror is a big problem.
I like to know your opinions. Please tell me:

1. Is it good or bad when so much peoples from other countries come to Europe?
2. How should we treat them?
3. Which effects do you think will it have for the future?

(I am sorry for the bad English)

hello, sileine
I'm British and I've been to Paris in the last year and I've seen the refugee crisis on the streets. I would like to give my opinions to your questions.
I think it depends on the amount of people coming from the countries and the reason why really changes the fact if it is good or bad. since the reason is the war and terror in Syria then I don't blame them for fleeing the country. the sheer amount is rather daunting but with good time I'm sure the people will be placed in a protected area.
how we should treat them depends on the way they act. if the refugees act entitled and expect to act ungrateful and be given money then ignore them , I would never say spit on or kick a refugee but if they blame us for their crisis then don't pity them. however, if they are humble and genuinely ask for help and you can see they need it then treat them with respect and humanity.
I think the effects will be quite mild as the situation dies down as m sure it will. but if the situation does increase and the refugees become too big a public issue I'm sure something sensible will be done and decided with the refugees' best interests in mind. hopefully.
I am only 14 years old so I'm not that involved in politics, not that anyone would care if I was but that was just my immature opinons.

I'm not from Europe, but I went to Germany last summer for a summer course to practice German. The amount of foreigners was surprising and I barely found someone who spoke German fluently. I realized the big cultural differences between refugees and Germans and really felt how two cultures clashed together.
You can't say if it's good or bad. Those people come from a war zone and need support, their lives are in danger. First of all the war must come to an end, after that it can be decided if the refugees shall return to their homeland or not.
Treat them like humans should be treated. First they won't fit into society, but they will learn to integrate.
I agree with >>2 that the effects will be mild. It's not the first time that refugees come to Europe and every problem can get solved.
The terror is another topic. There was also terror before the refugee crisis started. I don't know what to do to stop the terror in Europe, but I hope it will end soon. It's scary.

I live in Germany and the situation has totally changed since the refugees arrived here. There is dirt and garbage all over the roads, I don't want to appear like a racist, but it's because the refugees have no idea how everything works in Germany. Sure, they will learn everything in the future, but how long will this take? The rate of sexual harassment increased since 2015. We have "bahavior rules" in Arabian and French for public swimming pools in which is exactly explained that you shall not harass or stalk women, something nobody needed before the refugees came. Europe was always multicultural and I'm only partly German too, but the current situation is really bad. There are too many refugees. They live in provisional quarters, because Germany lacks apartments. Nobody is comfortable with this situation. And the cultural differences are too big and not comparable with western cultures.
Of course we must help them. I don't want anyone to suffer in a war zone. But most of the refugees are young men, they came without their families, without wives or children and there are definitely terrorists within them. There has never been so much terror as since the refugees came. The refugees need to get checked carefully before we let them in and if someone seems to be suspicious, Europe shouldn't let this person in.

The crisis and the terror is bad but we should help everyone no matter if terrorist or not. The refugees needs help and when we don't help them nobody does. If i were refugee i also want to be helped this is what people must do. Who doesn't helps won't get help when he needs it.

>>5
>we should help everyone no matter if terrorist or not
WTF?! Were you drunk while posting?

>>4 It´s difficult to check whether someone is a terrorist or not.
Nobody will say "Yes, I´m a terrorist" if you ask.
Anyways, you´re right.

I wouldn´t let them in. Really, no.
War is like a natural selection.
Survival of the fittest.
Every government´s first priority should be the people of their own land and their security, not potential terrorists coming in little boats, begging for help, destroying the European peace with terror.
If Europe opens the gates for those refugees and those refugees can´t or won´t accept and respect the rules of the land they live in and start sexual harassment or polute the environment, then it´s a good reason to send them back.
Europe is about to break down and it´s the European government´s own fault for being stupid and not consequent enough. There mustn´t have been so much terror in France, Belgium, Germany, Spain and wherever else, if they wouldn´t have taken the refugees without thinking, without checking their backgrounds - this is irresponsible towards the own people.

>>6
I fiercely disagree with you. It seems as if you would be the one drunk here. Have you read your own post? War as a form of natural selection? Survival of the fittest? You lack respect and comprehension of the human value! Everyone has to work together to solve problems, you cannot send the refugees back to a war zone. They need our help! All you say is so inhuman and cruel.
You would throw refugees out of the country because they do not know the culture, without giving them the chance to learn? Nobody can understand new cultures in one or two years, it takes time. Be at least respectful and give them a chance.
Europe is not about to break down, where do you have all those strange opinions from? Europe is strong enough to find a solution to the refugee crisis, this I am sure.

I believe that we should take in refugees, but the reality is that it would harm the community/society taking them in.

There is terrorists among some of the refugees, but mainly no one country has the resources to support all of the refugees. Where I live the government put refugees from Somalia in very cheap housing. It is a ghetto and the only place I watch my back when going there, since I deliver pizza. There is always gangbangers and drug dealers there with a lot of broken car glass. They were put in another hell with just the bare minimum to survive in this country.

Adding to this is I knew a few people who came to school for work here and tried cheating the system as much as possible, and sending most of their money back home. The money wasn't put back into the countries economy, but another countries. They were from Ethiopia, I believe.

On top of that the few bad apples, terrorists, add to the harm to the country/community taking people in.

I agree that if we had enough resources to support them, we should. But the reality is that we don't, let alone support the people within our own country. I live in America, if you were wondering. I think the people that have money don't care about the good of the human race either, since I rarely hear of a billionaire helping those in need.

Also some places in Europe are still like third world. Someone visited Greece and there are parts that seemed mob controlled. He talked with a history professor and the professor said the same thing when he travels to Europe.

>>8 We have sort of a refugee ghetto too here in Germany. And there was someone shooting with arrows at police cars last week.

>>9 What? lol

>>7 You have no idea what "inhuman and cruel" really is like.
Have you ever been to Europe? Germany, France... wherever you go, you barely hear the language of the country itself, instead you hear Turkish and Arabic and whatever.
Europe is going to become too multicultural. The countries are promoting foreigners, instead of their own people. They are building mosques or thinking about prohibiting Christmas in public kindergarten (in some countries), because the children aren´t Christian anymore. There are lessons in turkish for turkish children in German elementary schools (at least this is what a German friend told me).
When I heard this I was like WTF?! That´s poor, that´s really poor.
Why should a country change it´s rules because there are people from other countries? Isn´t this stupid? Foreigners are guests. They shall respect the rules and try to get along with them.
With the refugees more and more foreigners are coming, but there is no work, there are no flats - what do you think will happen next?
I´d say riots. No matter if caused by the own people or by foreigners, but I believe there will be riots.
You ask why?
1. The refugees wanted a better life, but they live under rather bad conditions now - it´s no better than before.
2. If the terror doesn´t end, the people will begin seeing an enemy in every refugee out there - it´s only a matter of time until there will be armoured civil groups "fighting terror".
3. There are racist parties getting more and more attention and votes.
Europe changes too much in a rather messy direction. That´s why I´d say: Send the refugees back, for Europe´s sake.

>>10 The special classes for Turkish children or for moslems started long before the refugees came to Germany and there are only special classes in bigger cities with a high concentration of foreigners.
I don't believe that there will be riots, Chronos. Some people say we shouldn't take further refugees and those people vote for racial parties, because only racial parties want to stop taking the refugees. These people are nowhere near racists. The terror isn't so bad and influences our everyday life only at a minimum. Some people are avoiding public events because of the risks, others don't care and continue their lives like before. It's not like we would see a terrorist in every refugee.
It's true that Europe is very multicultural. Some people even say that Germany loses it's identity. I think so too.
I don't know what is best.

Pretty sure you're on the wrong board.

>>12 Yeah, and no. Since there is no politics board, there is no "right board" to post it on.
At least OP is asking for our PERSONAL opinion, so it´s not that misplaced after all. Furthermore you could say that refugees and terror could cause personal problems.

>>10 and >>13
Got it. I thought you would be a racist first, now I see that you are nothing but a troll. Spit your venom wherever you want, I won't argue with trolls because it is pretty senseless and I'm already annoyed by your wannabe racism.

>>1
Everyone agreed that helping the refugees is important. This topic is done.

>>12
Yes, this topic is on the wrong board. Even asking for a personal opinion doesn't make a political topic personal!

>>14 It's my personal opinion that there should be a limit on immigration. There have been many problems already in countries like Sweden and Germany.

In Sweden there are many reports of rape and other crimes being commited by refugees, while in Germany there have already been a few riots.

There's also the fact that a lot of areas in Sweden are starting to become run in similar fashion to Islamic states as people still wish to enforce things like sharia law instead of following Sweden's laws. Sweden doesn't do anything as they're afraid of being called racist.

I'm not saying all refugees are bad, it's just that there happens to be a lot of people who ruin it for others

>>14 WTF?!
Call me racist, call me troll, call me Santa Claus if you like to - I don´t give a shit.
I simply stated my opinion, live with it.

>>15 A limit on immigration is a good point.

Like I said in >>8, too many refugees of any sort impacts the society/community negatively.

The terrorism just adds another element to that. I know not all refugees have terrorists, a lot of them don't, since not all refugees come from a place with an IS issue.

Yet in all countries/communities who take refugees tend to place them in ghettos, since they can't afford to put them into nice places. They put them in the cheapest possible places and give them the bare minimum to survive.

The only people that could help is the billionaires, and I don't see them doing that anytime soon.

I do somewhat agree that this is somewhat misplaced, but I don't really know where it would go.

>>17 Yeah. Sadly someone with a bunch of money often doesn´t feel involved with politics in general. In case the country they´re living in would break down, they could still take their private jet to wherever they have a beautiful mansion and leave all problems behind.

A few years ago this topic would have been posted on main.
For the concept of the website has changed, there is no place left to post it now; except for random perhaps??
Would be nice if we had a politics board, wouldn´t it?

>>18 Indeed it would

one of the bigest probleams of the crisis is lack of comunication between european governments and weak inspections of Refugees, we dont know exactly how many Refugees there are, we dont know they education and they past activities in their country.Because of this lack of informations we cant start socialization procedures and just hawe bunch of people who could eventualy work but cant offer them any job even if we hawe any.
Another problem is with European unions laws about dividing refugees, litle countres which hawe trobles with they own shits are forced to take care of thousand of other people which cant work and will just cause trobles with country budgets
and last problem is pressure from journal other cautries about this

i also forgot to mention trobles caused by schengen area