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I love them too much. (28)

1 Name: あい : 2016-03-22 08:07 ID:F0BFgJy6 [Del]

I have become the type of person who will do anything to help his friends. I always do my best to make their problems better (not anymore)...
But this time it went to shit.
The person i helped the most
had anxiety attacks over,
left school early to plan for,
lost sleep for,
everything.
She now hates me because i stated my opinion on this "God" that (I) believe doesn't exist.
She refuses to talk to me, and turns the story.
She hates me and i dont know what to do

2 Name: NZPIEFACE : 2016-03-22 08:24 ID:fCzdNbzQ [Del]

You fucked up.

3 Name: Blake : 2016-03-22 10:34 ID:xOM0zMM/ [Del]

If she was a true friend she wouldn't have turned on you so easily, theres no use worrying about it if she didnt even listen to why you have that opinion

4 Name: FindMuck !MrEff/SKhc : 2016-03-22 10:42 ID:XHKHx5zU [Del]

>>3 They left out the part where they stated "All christians are fucked in the head". Which is the cause of this whole scenario.

5 Name: Neko !UU8hnqLjMY : 2016-03-22 11:12 ID:ArutQtgG [Del]

Lesson learned: don't peek at anyone's phone.

6 Name: あい : 2016-03-22 12:01 ID:F0BFgJy6 [Del]

>>4
FindFuck, fuck off.

7 Name: Weems : 2016-03-22 12:54 ID:pZKlN3Sp [Del]

>>6
Dude making any generalized statement like that is obviously going to upset people. It sucks that she reacted that way, but she is reacting in a perfectly natural manner. Apologize to her ( and mean it), and if she doesn't accept your apology you have to accept that. Also keep this in one thread please. Thank you.

8 Name: あい : 2016-03-22 13:05 ID:F0BFgJy6 [Del]

I am keeping this one one thread. its just not here anymore................

9 Name: Weems : 2016-03-22 14:17 ID:ykP7eex1 [Del]

>>8 that's fine, it was more a reminder for future threads you may make. But as I have seen your previous threads, I will stand by my advice. She is reacting in a fair way to what you said. So you should apologize from the heart, and if she doesn't forgive you then you have to live with it.

10 Name: wasp : 2016-03-22 14:54 ID:HD1V73ku [Del]

there are a lot of people who are strong believers and you wont believe how much negativity is pushed at atheists. I would apologize for hurting her but do not apologize for your beliefs. its not right for people to judge and get angry at others for their beliefs and opinions.

11 Name: Ryukagoka !45HNsCawgU : 2016-03-22 15:57 ID:K6xvmi52 [Del]

Just because you make a new thread, i t doesn't mean people are going to give you different advice. You seriously messed up with your friend, and you owe her an apology. Finding that message was like a betrayal to her, and whether or not you 'believe' you need to respect that she does. You hurt your friend really bad, but whenever we try to give you advice, you rage, call us unsupportive, and spam Personal with another thread.
You seem like the kind of person that always needs to be right, and that kind of behavior does not work in a healthy relationship. It might not be what you 'want' to hear, but your ways need to change. I hope that you will finally listen to our advice.

12 Name: Mako !8NBuQ4l6uQ : 2016-03-22 16:07 ID:2fObzmEj [Del]

I agree with >>11 : In a relationship, you can't always be right. Now, trust me. I've been on this same path. Sometimes it's a good thing to just let the other person win. I personally use this question to debate whether I give up or not: "Will this matter in a few days? What about a few weeks? A few months?" If the second two were answered as no, I give up and let my friend win. I hope this was helpful!

13 Name: Blake : 2016-03-22 16:18 ID:+dPlCyWY [Del]

But it's not about who's winning and who's losing this argument, it's that his friend just didn't even give them a chance to explain why they feel that way. I'm not siding with anyone I just think that opinions like that shouldn't affect a friendship so much as to not talk to the person

14 Name: that guy : 2016-03-22 17:19 ID:gqkgQ8C4 [Del]

alright bro, let me tell you a secret. A REEEAAALLYYYYY IMPORTANT SECRET on handling people.
And curiously, is the one that you should incorporate to your life style to make she come back talking to you.
and the funny part of it, starts with it. Its just a phrase! look>
"It doesn't matter if god and the world are with you. The other person is NEVER WRONG"
Weird isnt it? Well, you maybe thinking "No shit, so if someone else says that he can fly if he jumps from a bulding I must agree with him?" and obviously, Iam going to tell you "YUP! he's right and he ahs all the right to say so". Oh! thinking that Iam mad allready? hahaha! maybe, but look, (lets take your situation as an example) if you go to this girl, who during her entire life have been teached to love a god (God is the best example to this kind of explanation(AN IDEA!), isnt it? =D). And then, comes you, somebody who really care about her, and says "nah, I don't believe this god exists, there aren't proofs or anything". Hmmmm.... Pretty normal right? You may think, "Oh! but it wasn't nothing at all! I would have agreed myself and I guess other people would just take it as normal as I would". Well, you are not wrong! you are completelly right, but as every human is different, every human lives on HES OWN WORLD, talks HES OWN LENGUAGE. Let me try to give you a roughtly made translation of your words into her mind "NOPE! you are WRONG, your god DOESNT EXISTS, oh! and you know what? EVERYTHING YOU LEARNED THOUGH YOUR LIFE is a LIIEEEEE" doesn't sound "normal" or "nothing at all" am I right?
yeah bro! take care with your words, when speaking with somebody about delicated personal stuff (beliefs for example) ALLLLLLWAAAAYYYSSSSSS take it from the other person's point of view, and avoid an argument, there are many ways of discovering what the other person likes without an argument and crashing down relationships!
You should have said "OH! so you believe in god? oh! thats nice, I have heard that they do all kinds of cool stuff in the church, am I right?" (and now, In case she had asked you if oyu believed in god)(insted of a "No, I don't believe in god", say something like>)"Hm... Me? well, I don't really have much contact with religious stuff... Iam sorry =P"
See? In human relations, we have a rule, (A REALLY IMPORTANT ONE) that is the basis of all the sucessful human relations, and it is= "Dont ever talk about yourself from your point of view". This means, you will never talk about God with the pope from the perspective from an Atheist, but from a POPE! yeah!
I am going to suggest you to take these in consideration! and try a new aproach to your friend.
Say something like "Oh!, Iam really sorry for what I told you, it was really insensible from my part and I regret every word, I have been really trying to get into your perspective and I see that I really disrespected you, you have all the right to be angry with me, but I would like to talk more to you, our other conversations were really enjoyable and I hope you could forgive me for my fault" Something like that~, I know it sounds really formal but it is the "magical potion" that you need ;P good luck!

15 Name: Kurosuke !ZhEadTxef6 : 2016-03-22 23:44 ID:WS9KNJFX [Del]

last time i checked you said:

"All Christians are fucked in the head" and "GOD ISN'T REAL"

which is NOT an OPINION. BUT A STATEMENT.

if you really care for her, you wouldn't state things that you know will make her angry.

and if she really cares for you she will accept the fact that you're an atheist or whatever you believe you are.

Religion/Beliefs cant destroy a real friendship.

you have to be humble for her. be the first to say sorry. explain yourself to her.

if she doesn't, You just have to accept it.

ps. its a good thing you redid your thread. because you're first threads are, well, enraging. not all people are the same. you cant generalize them because of their religion. simply because one christian made a mistake not all of them will do the same thing.

16 Name: NZPIEFACE : 2016-03-23 03:27 ID:fCzdNbzQ [Del]

Honestly, you remind me of my atheist friend.

He said Christians are idiots for believing in God. He argument was that no one ever proved he existed.
He's also a prick to our Christian English teacher.

Thing is, no one really cares. You're just unlucky

17 Name: Neko !UU8hnqLjMY : 2016-03-23 03:38 ID:ArutQtgG (Image: 500x335 jpg, 52 kb) [Del]

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18 Name: Lunak : 2016-03-23 05:26 ID:kqZ081AR [Del]

Can't believe how many people are actually on her side here. If she was your friend, she wouldn't have left your side just because of some religion. You can't really do much when someone cares more about their fairy tale than a person who loves them.

19 Name: あい : 2016-03-23 11:10 ID:F0BFgJy6 [Del]

Thank you to those of you who are not yelling at me.

I thought about it some, and i am going to apologize to her today. In about 20 minutes.

Not because its my fault, because i need her in my life. she keeps me happy. I will let her know that i am sorry for saying all Christians are fucked. Thank you to people like @Lunak
who actually get what im trying to say.
...also
yelling at me doesn't help a fellow dollar in need.


20 Name: あい : 2016-03-23 11:16 ID:F0BFgJy6 [Del]

She has a forbidden girlfriend that she has been banned to see because of her dumb ass christian mother. Those two girls, i love and care for so much. And seeing them torn away from each other like that fucked me up.

I let the girl who is mad at me, lets call her...
Sonya,
use my phone a lot to speak to the other girl , lets called her, Keke, (not real names).

Keke needs Sonya because she had horrible anxiety. keke's mom yelled at her on the phone telling her that she is a sin. that ridiculous. Keke being a really sweet girl, she kept saying sorry. Its not her fault. like really Keke??
she is fucked up in the head because to Keke, Sonya was the only one who could keep her calm, sane, alive. but not Keke is having a hard time with that, all because of Sonya's mom being a religious person.

21 Name: あい : 2016-03-23 11:19 ID:F0BFgJy6 [Del]

ALSO....
the reason i do not understand Sonya, is because she hates her mother for separating them. she even agreed with me that her mom was making her and Keke depressed;;;; keeping two who love each other so so much to the point of death if they couldn't see each other, away from each other. SONYA AGREED with me. but then when she looked through my texts, she got really mad at me for saying what she agreed on.

22 Name: Weems!qOZ/MagevI : 2016-03-23 12:25 ID:ykP7eex1 [Del]

>>21
she is upset with you because you said all Christians are fucked in the head. This statement implies you also believe that she is fucked in the head. Even if we are going purely by logic here, if someone were to tell me "You are fucked in the head," I would take offense to that.

You are at fault. Your words hurt her. Whether you want believe it or not, that is the truth. You made a statement (indirectly) to her, and she was hurt by it. As such, you are the cause of why she is upset. Meaning the fault lies on you.

23 Name: Rora-chan !IHa.eGTGzA : 2016-03-23 16:55 ID:Hh4SmdFZ [Del]

>>19 Despite the shaky start we had, I sincerely hope you made up with your friend, no one deserves to lose a friend over an argument that can be resolved with an apology and understanding from both people :)

24 Name: あい : 2016-03-24 08:08 ID:F0BFgJy6 [Del]

I am not at fault!!!
she told me so when i apologized.
she also apologized to me for holding a grudge.
most of my friends aware of this thing, they are mad at me for apologizing. but they still love me.
we are now friends again.

I found out yesterday that she thought i was going to physically going to hurt her. I WOULD NEVER.
i told her that, and we are just good now.

25 Name: あい : 2016-03-24 08:13 ID:F0BFgJy6 [Del]

>>23
thank you Rora-chan

26 Name: Neko !UU8hnqLjMY : 2016-03-24 08:31 ID:3LZDjnt/ [Del]

Ah friendship.
Fun fact: in relationships, it never matters whose fault it is. Just the things that happen afterwards.

27 Name: あい : 2016-04-11 12:05 ID:F0BFgJy6 [Del]

grand.
>>26

28 Name: あい : 2016-04-12 08:28 ID:F0BFgJy6 [Del]

/dump
the problem was resolved.