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Suicidal Friends (21)

1 Name: I.K. : 2015-11-23 21:47 ID:7EYCe2Dc [Del]

So this year has been really weird, in a depressing sort of way. I just started high school and the transition has been really hard on a lot of my friends. I've had two friends in the past few months come to me about thoughts of suicide, and being a sane human being, I wanted to help.
Well I successfully helped one friend get over what was going on, but now she's just hanging on me all the time, she's practically my stalker. She memorized my schedule and she follows me around school all day long. She's still going through some tough times so I'm afraid that if I stop being friends with her then it will be just like pushing her off that rooftop myself.
My grades are suffering from all the stress and you guys are honestly my last hope. So what will it be; high school drop out or murderer? Cuz I really don't want to b either.

2 Name: Neko : 2015-11-23 22:05 ID:2CJ/1XXi [Del]

Let me correct one thing.
From what you just described, when you say she "got over it" it simply means that she found a thing to cling into (you). So basically it's not over yet. Either finish what you started or back away completely.

3 Name: Lovely !YLCyt3kDBA : 2015-11-23 22:10 ID:XmcfhI49 [Del]

"She's practically my stalker."
I'm sorry, but that's a problem. Do you feel uncomfortable about that? If so, then it's just better if you stop being her friend or confront her about it. If she kills herself because of that, it's definitely not your fault.

4 Name: starrz : 2015-11-23 22:19 ID:5FwMNOM4 [Del]

OK LISTEN TO ME! dont push her just yet..... first help her find a new BETTER friend to cling to and if she asks (why do you want me to have more friends when I have you?) then i want you tell her that its good to have friends because.... what if I move again? Then you'll be alone and we dont want that now do we?

5 Name: I.K. : 2015-11-23 22:21 ID:7EYCe2Dc [Del]

ok, well thanks for your input, but I get the feeling I need to be a bit more specific.
She's having family issues and she's run away several times. she's a bit of a delinquent but she's good at heart. She's got mental issues as well as physical ones, and I'm the only person whose ever known her who hasn't given up on her.
Besides, I don't know how I'd ever deal with something like her death, especially if it could in any way be my fault. My mental state I wouldn't say is completely stable either, and I don't want to become some sort of psychopathic lunatic.

6 Name: I.K. : 2015-11-23 22:27 ID:7EYCe2Dc [Del]

So, anyone else? Any ideas?

7 Name: starrz : 2015-11-23 22:40 ID:5FwMNOM4 [Del]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. you can find her a counsler?

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9 Name: I.K. : 2015-11-23 22:54 ID:7EYCe2Dc [Del]

She already has a counselor and it's useless since as I said before, she's a delinquent.
I'm starting to think this is kind of useless...
Thanks for all of you who tried, and any of you who have any more advice, I'm open to any suggestions, I'm sorry if I'm coming off rude when I shot your suggestions down. I've just been thinking about this for a while so most of the more obvious answers have already crossed my mind.

10 Name: sageluna : 2015-11-24 00:27 ID:7yUq+EHt [Del]

Then help her find new friends in order for her to be more open to her feelings or let her join this group and tell her to share all her hidden feelings (well just a way to ventilate her feelings as well as starting a new set of friends here)... just have some patience it will just flow

11 Name: Neko : 2015-11-24 05:09 ID:2CJ/1XXi [Del]

If you can't take it, I suggest you gracefully back away.
Half-hearted kindness is cruel.

12 Name: RainCat : 2015-11-24 10:27 ID:4gSnNtuJ [Del]

She needs to learn how to let go. Clinging to someone like that isn't healthy, for either of them just as you described yourself with your grades. But you don't have to go as far as being a dropout or even joking with murder. You need to take charge, if she won't listen then make her. She needs to know that you guys can still be friends (if you want to be) But she needs to back off or you won't be anymore.

13 Name: Holo the Wise Wolf : 2015-11-24 10:43 ID:Awjqls/r [Del]

Oi. Is she even your friend? Why would she need to know your schedule and act like a stalker to be with you if she was your friend? And if she was your friend, why don't you talk to her? First, figure out what the true relationship between you is. Sounds like you two are strangers to me.











'Tis a good moon

14 Name: I.K. : 2015-11-24 18:15 ID:7EYCe2Dc [Del]

First, @Neko, I am not trying to be cruel. The entire reason I decided to post this was to avoid that exact thing, so please refrain from treating me like some sort of bully, because that's not what I'm trying to do.
Next, @RainCat and @Halo the Wise Wolf;
First I agree that she needs to let go, but if either of you could tell me exactly how you dump someone who you know will never have friends, please tell me. Everyone I know completely despises her, so I honestly have no idea how to go about finding her new friends. I'm not exactly popular myself, so it's not like I have this whole pool of people I know who could be potential candidates.
And I'm going to be honest here, she's not my friend, though, yes Neko, I might sort-of cruelly allow her to think we are, but it's more because I pity her and again, I don't want her death on my head.
So if any of you who aren't going to treat me like an ass who plays on people's weaknesses has any other advice, I'd still LOVE to hear it, because I've got myself stuck in a corner here and I have no idea what to do.

15 Name: I.K. : 2015-11-24 18:58 ID:7EYCe2Dc [Del]

And just to be clear, I was only referring to Neko in that last statement. The rest of you, thank you for your help. You too Neko, just please try to choose better wording if you reply again. Thanks.

16 Name: Kokkuri-san : 2015-11-24 19:18 ID:n+DKKamJ [Del]

Yeah I've never had much luck either when I was at school. I was in a similar situation to you but unlike how you're dealing with it, I only had to be stalked for 1 year and moved out by highschool anyway. Not sure if this could help but this is from my experience 0.0

Try creating friends that are polar opposite to what your stalker friend is. This might sit in your stalker friend's mind in many ways. She might either decided to make her own friends out of hatred/jealousy for you, she might decide to try and be like those polar opposites you made friends with or she might begin fighting with these polar opposites and *literally* try to pull you back by one arm while your other friends pull you by the other. If the last option occurs that's when you play the 'I've had enough!'-card. So you pull away from both of these friends for a while. And when I say 'a while' I mean until you think your stalker friend is thinking over things or about different things. If you want to continue/restart a friendship, you'd have to take it slow. And if you don't want to cut connections with your stalker friends completely then tell her the honest truth but in a way that makes you seem like you're the more hurt one than she is.


^ That's what happened with me and it worked (I've had a couple of stalker friends in the past). I hope it helps and please let me know how things are going for you.

17 Name: Neko : 2015-11-24 20:16 ID:2CJ/1XXi [Del]

I do apologise for my blunt words as I'm never good with any soft words, but please let me continue a bit
IT'S NOT ON YOU. Even if she decided to take her life, it goes to whoever caused the problem in her first place. You're not her family or relatives, so you should not be forced to go along with it.
Right now by not giving a firm refusal, you're leading her to believe she can count on you in whatever situation she'll face. You're already on the verge of breaking down, so what'll happen if you do breakdown at the most crucial moments?

She needs someone who's ready to bear any guilt that comes from being with her. like I said, half-hearted kindness is cruel, all the more when you're not trying to be an ass, because even if she decided to blame you in the end she'll just hate herself.
Either have a heart-to-heart talk and tell her that you can't be anymore than friends or get your guidance counsellor to help.

18 Name: I.K. : 2015-11-24 21:05 ID:7EYCe2Dc [Del]

wow @kokkuri-san, that was some really great advice, thank you so much, I think I'll try that!

19 Name: I.K. : 2015-11-24 21:06 ID:7EYCe2Dc [Del]

and thank you too @Neko, that was better, I'll give that one a try too.

20 Name: nya : 2015-11-24 21:08 ID:8xM/ySS2 [Del]

I've been in a similar situation. Please, please do not dump that girl heartlessly. It will break her heart. Instead, please take it slow in breaking the news to her. Please talk to her in person. What she thinks right now, I'm pretty sure would be close to her thinking that you are her support. When someone is in a depression, what they usually want is affection. From how you described her, she's Most likely a very dependant person. Please don't break her heart if you just snap and tell her off. To her, that will be like a betrayal to her trust on you. Although it may be hard, please don't let her down. What you should do, is introduce lots of friends to her, so that hopefully she will also bond with a few of them and become less focused or dependant on you.

21 Name: I.K. : 2015-11-24 21:11 ID:7EYCe2Dc [Del]

thanks @nya, same.