Do you believe in God?

No I am not

I'm gonna guess by the name of the thread that you don't.
But to answer your question, yes, I do.

What is your opinion about religion? is it really necessary in this world to have them?

I believe in a creator god and i bbelieve in lesser deities.
I do not follow a religion, and most of them are spiritual slavery.

I don't, maybe there is a spiritual force who create the world and has set the rules (gravity, quantum forces etc), but not a religion (Christian, Muslim...) one who "controls" us.

I'm at a weird state were my hate of God presupposes his existence in my life. I don't want to believe in him, but I want to hate him so much.

>>7 What kind of ignorant nonsense is that?

>>8 misotheism

Yes, I do believe in God. I just don't believe in my religion (Catholicism). Well, I do, but I don't like the fact that you have to let whoever is in charge interpret the bible for you. I can read it, I can interpret it the way I want to, not the way you want me to.

I do believe in God. I personally believe that he does not spend much time at all interfering in the lives of the living. I like having the thought of God, because with one, we can have objective truths in the world. Without a God, every decision becomes arbitrary, leaving the world without any real ethics or morals.

Just so you guys know, my topic right down here was for conversations of this nature:
http://dollars-bbs.org/personal/res/1438498130.html

Gee...thought this was a place for open minds...

>>12 And what better way to obtain one than filling yourself with knowledge? God ccan be a very large aspect of spiritual practice.

>>11 I wouldn't consider Witchcraft, Magick, or anything of the sort to be similar to theism.

thank you, my creation

>>14 This demonstrates your knowledge, or lack thereof.

I believe in what there is, not what there is speculated to be

I don't but I often try to believe. I mostly want my loved ones to be able to get where they want to be after death, no matter what religion they are.

I thought about this topic for a long time, until I came to the conclusion that I don't believe that something like a god exists, but on the other hand I also can't deny his existence. For me there is not enough proof (or let's say, proof that I find reasonable)for either side of the argument. In the end it seems pointless to me to waste any more time on pondering about this, because in the end we will only know (or not) for sure when we are dead.

>>19 so, i'm not real enough for you?

>>20 sry dude, u not teh realest

>>19
that's called agnostic atheism, I believe

Yes like hazel said your most likely to fall in the category Agnostic atheism. personally i feel the same, i believe in a higher existence perhaps not a god but definitely god-like. The point being religions created by "man" are nothing but nonsense. Even if a God-like being interfered with our plane of existence in the past, that doesn't mean we need to worship it. I think most modern people share my opinion about this, there is something we just don't know what.

>>21 shame on you then

>>23
I agree with you, but some people are a bit hard headed and at the first mention of this they lash out.

>>23
>>25
Then would that mean you believe in intelligent design?

Why the fuck are there so many types of atheism?

>>27 Because people are idiots.

>>28 I concur

>>6 Lol'd at "control", what would you mean by that?

>>8 Rofl'd

>>17 So what is there then, I.E would you then believe in the theory of evolution which is speculated etc?

>>19 But but then wouldn't it be better to go with a safe bet?

It's actually pretty interesting to see everyone's views :o

>>27 >>28 I don't really thing that's very fair.. people believe different things. There are many varied types of religion, yet you're only asking about the different types of atheism as if somethings wrong, when only one other type of atheism was discussed. I never spit on people for having different beliefs. I respect them and I try to understand. Religion is very sacred to some people, and I acknowledge that. I only wish that I could believe, or at the very least that my loved ones get to where they want to go.

>>30 I don't think so, if you want to be on the safe side you would have to life your entire life according to the religion you've chosen, and even if you follow it's rules and ideals precisely, until the day you die you can never be sure wether or not you have chosen the right one.
Aside from that, it's just as likely that no god-like being exists whatsoever, so wouldn't it make more sense to live your life the way you want to instead of devoting it to some religion, on the off-chance that it maybe, possibly could be the right one?

No.

>>32 That, my friend, is what you would call a facile argument.

>>32
Tbh, the "rules" and "ideals" are better than living "the way I want", in my opinion (At least for my "religion", though I consider mine a relationship rather than religion). I have more freedom in it rather than to be a slave to my sin, honestly here that's how I feel from experience, I've been on both sides I guess. But it's up to you not me haha, go ahead live how you want :). I mean it's like taking the 0% chance rather than the 10% chance of not going to eternal damnation. I'd say pretty good odds considering it's eternal....

>>30 I live in the present. I believe in the future. I don't give two shits about the past.

>>31 I think people that make 10 different types of Catholics is stupid, too.

Well you all seem interested in this topic. I'm sure that where some of you live you got people that go preaching at your door or something like that. Why not ask them these questions when they knock. They usuall have some sort of response i would think. And if you are christian-like and the ones knocking have a bible, ask to be shown the answers with the bible.

Religions and sects are the same thing for me... it's just brain washing...
But trusting in god (without being religious) is okay, even if I don't.

I don't think there's an actual being that symbolizes itself as God, but I do believe of some different type of force (if you know what I mean)- like Paranormal. My family has been the type to witness 'ghosts' or dead people (you know, that third sense?). But I don't know if they would have anything to do with God.

I fucking love this you for this topic. It's something that gets the uber Christians all riled up. I don'tbelieve in god in the slightest.

>>40
No idea why it would rile anyone up, to be honest. So then, out of curiousity why don't you believe in a God?

>>41 There was a post on here before about this, and it lead to some large arguments, but this one seems to be going comparably well.

I used to. But honestly have fallen into believing that we're all just kind of drifting in our choices until the end. Who knows. None of us can be certain what's out there.

>>42
To be honest, there really is no point to having some large argument which in the end turns up to be everyone just insulting everyone. That's usually been the track record of most "debates" about religion ends. Everyone just gets mad and fed up, and I honestly think that it's pointless.

>>44 I agree. When two rational people get to debate and converse, they can agree with each other's points without trying to force the other to believe ones point just because they thing they're right. Unfortunately we don't have the good fortune of everybody being rational. It's sad when the only way to win an argument is to not be in one. I've had many rounds in debate team where the opponent failed to actually debate, but to argue by repeating the same verse that was shoved down their throat, and not acknowledge the other points and contradictions.
In the case of religion, particularly Christianity/Catholicism, I'm Atheist, but have had many long conversations with my religouse friends. It always ends up with us agreeing that if what we live by is good and our choices just, we shouldn't judge each other by our faith in God.

>>45
Definitely, for me, I don't think anyone can judge anyone else for their faith. Everyone is a sinner, and I feel like I am one of the worst ones from my past, so I am definitely in no place to judge others for their faith. I just share what I believe and feel and am open to new ideas, I don't know everything so I'm open to new ideas.

I personally do not believe in it. It's insane to think that there's a creature higher then us. It might sound egocentric, but humans may be thr highest creatures in existence because humans keep evolving to survive. And, if you think about it, 'God' is something made up, by us humans. When humans weren't that far in evolution, they didn't know how to logically explain things, so they made up a thing called 'God'. Back then, it was more then one god, and nature itself was a god. When we evolved, our minds started to change. Like that all our gods fused into one 'True God', and that some humans didn't want to fuse their gods, creating a gap between cultures. After that, humans discovered science, and how science could explain almost everything. Most humans refused to believe science, and this created a new society, one that does everything based of science. So, until now, we have tree cultures, divided by ourselves. But, this gap continues to grow, since more people are becoming atheists, or more people are becoming Muslim or Christian. People are driving each other because of foolish beliefs.

In one sentence: I do not believe in God, or Gods, but I somehow do believe in supernatural things, because they can (in one way or another) be explained.

God is something personal, that we all hold dear to ourselves. it's impossible to prove god to someone has not yet experienced it. Therefore, it is incredibly easy to simply say ,"He's not real." When they have never had a spiritual experience.

>>48 I know what you mean, It's what all of my religious friends and family say. they experience a miracle and otherworldly events that lead to their hard belief, So i'll remain open minded for when something like that happens to me.

>>48
you may want to watch it

The Atheist Experience - copy and past link -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15a3EQgmnXA

I think this may change your mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JAa3NvP6f4

>>47 I'm an atheist as well, but for essentially none of the reasons you wrote. To start, there's no problem with the existence of creatures that are more advanced than us. Evolution occurs at different rates, so a species that evolved later than we did could still evolve faster and thereby overtake our progress. Furthermore, humanity hasn't been around for very long, so it's stupidly easy for some species to have come along (on some planet other than Earth) billions of years before we evolved. Society also severely stunts human evolution. Evolution can't really work unless the weak die off before they have a chance to reproduce, but society aims to keep all people safe. This drastically slows all evolution. Lastly, I'm not sure what picture of human evolution you have in your head, but we didn't just get the ability to think logically (and complexly) in the past several millennium. The ancients had a lack of knowledge, not a mental deficiency.

Some of the big problems for theism stems from the lack of apparent evidence of the existence of a god, some strong arguments against the existence of a tri-omni god, and issues with religious text. Really the biggest strike against the veracity of the Bible, at least for me, is how so many stories are almost word-for-word stolen from older tales of other cultures. Hearing that Moses was supposed to be a real person and then reading his birth story when reading the tale of Sargon of Akkad is entirely non-convincing.

I guess the belief in God/gods/the lack thereof, all boils down to faith, right?

One word for those who can't find faith in a God.

LSD.

>>56 These are wise words.

LSD.