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Morality (5)

1 Name: Setsuna : 2015-06-30 14:52 ID:ptA4cu94 [Del]

If you watch something bad happen and stand by does it make you a bad person?
I recently had an issue where there was a random guy getting pummeled by some other dude and people just walked by some looked in shock and fear but no one did anything. I noticed this when I got between the assaulter and the victim. The guy getting beat up was in bad shape with a bloody nose and a swollen eye and this dumb overconfident prick gets in my way and tells me it's none of my business and to back off.
I tell him it's not right to be beating a guy when he's already injured and down. I won't go into details about what happened but the next day when I asked people why the wouldn't help they just shook their heads like clueless sheep.
"I didn't want to get involved" or "It wasn't my problem" and there was even some dirtbag who took a picture and posted it but didn't do jackshit to help the guy?!
Even now people think I was the stupid one for helping, and its starting to get to me. What if didn't stop to help? Would there be any consequence if I didn't help? Am I being the moral idiot?
A quote I've always tried to follow is that "Those who allow evil, are just as guilty as the evil itself" but has this changed? Is turning a blind eye just the way things are? This may sound like nonsense you don't think is true but when I look at the world today I find it hard to know the difference anymore. I'm a natural pessimist but, I've always tried to keep a moral ground, but are my beliefs and ideals just useless archiac ideas from the past no one seems to care about or can we all still make a difference to better ourselves and others if we just try to help? Please this isn't just some random idea debate, I really feel morally conflicted and no one seems to be telling me anything meaningful. Thanks for everyone who took the time to read this I appreciate it.

2 Name: twentythree : 2015-06-30 15:29 ID:8VDPzleD [Del]

There are plenty of reasons people don't get involved and some are very legitimate ones. Some people (including me) won't get involved because I'm not really cut out for fighting. Some don't want to get involved because they might get back at you. But I agree with the step that you took. I'd probably get involved, especially when the victim is really vulnerable. But sometimes you have to pick your fight as well.

3 Name: mabushii_hikari : 2015-06-30 18:16 ID:p8sZCF6l [Del]

I completely understand what you are saying - I think that idealistically, a lot of people would believe that they would step in and do something, but when it comes to the time they are afraid of the repercussions such as getting hurt themselves. For example, a week ago my sister, mother and I were walking down the street when we saw a man lying on the stairs in an awkward position. My sister immediately rushed up to check that he was okay, because she tends to act immediately on instinct in these situations. I was slightly more wary, believing that 'he might just be really drunk and therefore could become violent if someone tries to wake him', or that he had actually had a fall. My Mother was more comfortable with not approaching the man. It turned out that he was drunk and had fallen as a result, however, he was in very hot, direct sunlight which would have of course have made him a lot sicker. I applaud my sister's actions, and wish that I too had acted instinctually. I think that so long as what you believe you did was right, was right. The people beating the man could have gone a lot further and potentially given him life threatening injuries had you not intercepted.

4 Name: Carth : 2015-06-30 18:52 ID:p8YUkLZl [Del]

>>1 It isn't always wrong to not do anything to stop something bad from happening, but your case probably isn't one of those scenarios. As far as morality goes, ought implies can. Essentially, it can't be said that you morally ought to do something if you physically cannot do it. Like I wouldn't blame for not stopping an asteroid from hitting Earth.
Your scenario is a bit different, though. Unless the aggressor was built like The Mountain, people could probably have stopped him. In your case, people were actively choosing to not do anything to help, which is wrong. The reason why they can rationalize it away is because there's a mental disconnect between not kicking a guy when he's down and stopping someone else from kicking a guy when he's down (even if both can be stopped by you).
If anyone is actually telling you that you're the dumb one, or that you were in the wrong, for stopping that guy, they are entirely incorrect. They have no ground to stand on. Their position is indefensible and (probably) the only reason they are saying that is because they want to believe it.

5 Name: Catp : 2015-07-02 09:55 ID:Qd823ero [Del]

Honestly I'm part of those cowards who don't react. I really want to change it but I don't have confidence. I'm just a kid. Short, thin, strenghless. I do admire those people who help others in need. I'm those kind of people who just watch in a corner and admire. I've always been watching and judging people even though I'm the worst among them. Due to some social experciences I've been kind of pessimist and I keep on looking down on people like "It's not my problem" but if I was the one in need I would beg for help. Actually I do want to change. I've always been expressionless, people don't take me seriously and consider as a mere kid.
People like you who follow an inspirational quote are amazing.. In my case.. I'm way too narrow minded for that. People who helps each other are people who deserves consideration. I once noticed, a guy who was helping aa elder to get out of the bus, by that simple move, everybody started to react and help. I've always noticed those kind of kindness. Then somehow it makes me feel warm. I think if someone start to show some "humanity", people follow naturaly. When it's about violence or physical pain, people won't give a f***. But by being many, I think we can stop it. Maybe what I'm saying is wrong but sometimes reacting alone makes us (or just for me maybe.......) unconfident, that's why people who can do it alone are people we should rshow some respect I guess.