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Advice Needed for a Friend (9)

1 Name: MekakushiActor : 2015-05-21 23:19 ID:DMBBRRvx [Del]

Well, here I am. Normally, I try to help others myself, but this time I need your help:
So, you see, my friend, Dylan, has been recently diagnosed with depression. He is best friends with my friend, Leah. Or at least, he used to be. Leah finds him to be always complaining now about his depression, and sometimes Dylan is fuming with anger but remains silent. So, Leah asks him what's wrong, but Dylan always replies with the same answer: "You would never understand." Leah gets pissed off easily because of this always. He always talks about his issues, and then, when Leah wanted to break their friendship, Dylan calls her a horrible person. He says that he still wants to be friends with Leah, however. Dylan said that Leah used to be kind and friendly, but now she isn't anymore. One day, Leah and her friend, Kei, sat on the bus and talked together, while Dylan was somewhere else. As Dylan looked out the window, Kei whispered to Leah and called Dylan a stalker. Leah did not defend him whatsoever. In fact, she said nothing back. Dylan still remembers this and feels terrible because nobody stood up. Another day, Kei said something rude to Dylan. This time, Dylan stood up for himself, but afterwards, Leah told him that he shouldn't do that so easily. "You should tone it down," she said. Let me tell you another thing: you see, Leah used to like Kei, but she likes someone else now, but they are still good friends.
Anyways, from Leah's point of view, she never said any of that. And the thing is that Leah deals with pain everyday. Dylan always talks about himself, and he never gives a chance for Leah to say anything. Dylan calls Leah the "cause of his depression". The only reason Leah did not stand up for him is because she does the same with herself. She didn't say anything and instead tried to avert the situation with this silent reply. In fact, Leah always lets things like this pass by because she believes, there is no point in trying to stand up. Leah has tried enough times to know. On top of that, she broke their friendship because she felt pissed off. That's what Dylan thinks. However, Leah only removed their friendship because she did not want to hurt to Dylan and she felt as if the friendship was more one-sided. She felt terrible for this. Leah knows that she has been a terrible friend. Yet, everyday, Dylan tells me that Leah is ditching him, and he still needs her. As a friend to both in this situation, I cannot take their complaining to each other anymore. What should I suggest them to do?

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3 Name: [Dude] JackDenkin !3U.19DFF1s : 2015-05-21 23:37 ID:kZG+iWLz [Del]

A. Tell this of what ye type down to them
If not work
B. Shut them up (or knock them out with choloroform something or whatever) , calm tgem down and have them explain it to each other.
Its always (maybe) better to have people come face to face with things, than hide and let the regret fester.

How ye may do B is either a "Do it and you get a reward", "Do it, or i'll put you near the edge of your life", "Get it over with", and something related to those things.

4 Name: MekakushiActor : 2015-05-22 22:58 ID:DMBBRRvx [Del]

What's even worse is now that Dylan wants me to tell Leah that she is the most selfish person he has ever met

5 Name: [Dude] JackDenkin !3U.19DFF1s : 2015-05-23 00:02 ID:9nDosPkQ [Del]

>>4 Than dont, bring some sense into them, i do believe you are a mediator between the two, yes?

6 Name: ^Ravis^ : 2015-05-23 08:06 ID:uadsiQ91 [Del]

I think I can empathize with Leah. This month was a challenging month. Friendship problems occurred one after another. I am usually a nice, patient type of person. However, my 'best' friend kept bickering about her problems(She has no friends in our cohort apart from me) and affected me so much being her 'emotional sponge', to the point that I broke down. I admit that the reason I broke down was mostly because of the twisted, unrealistic thoughts I had about her(I felt that she had changed as she was a good friend before we got into middle school). That week was a like hell for me.(this happened two weeks before my examination (-_-')) I cried a lot and decided to seek help from my family. They advised me to be more assertive and confront my friend about that attitude of hers, so that she can know about her mistakes and learn from them. It took me a lot of courage but I managed to confront her about her attitude. She started to feel guilty and teary eyed. She told me that I was her only friend and that she was aware of her problem for some time already and apologized to me. I felt kind of bad doing that to her but I know that it needed to be done. We are still friends now and she still bickers one in a while but I felt that I became a lot more emotionally stronger than before.

My advice to you is to tell Leah to find out the cause of this friendship problem e.g.Dylan's being insensitive to Leah's feelings and ask her to talk to Dylan in a polite but firm manner about his problems, with the aim to help Dylan to be a better friend and a better person than before. If Dylan didn't change, tell Leah to make a choice, to either take Dylan's bickering not too seriously(which means to treat his bickering like utter nonsense -like what I do now when my friend bickers to me:P) or give up and tell Dylan that she can't be his friend anymore as his bickering is taking a toll on her emotional well-being. Whatever she chooses, try to support her by a simple, "I'll be rooting for you, just go for it!" Plus, if she ever breaks down, tell her she's never alone, because there are people supporting her.

7 Name: Toastywafflz !qVs0Vq85og : 2015-05-23 15:33 ID:+NqyFd65 [Del]

>>6 and >>3 make pretty good points. I'd take that advice myself.

Yeah, the way I see it, it's mostly a clashing of perspectives. A misunderstanding, the kind that self corroborates and gets worse and worse the longer it's left to its own devices to fester. And it's really poisonous in that soon it will dissolve into the perspectives of the concerned parties and what was once merely speculation and misjudgement will cement itself into "fact" for those involved. That is to say, the longer a conflict of misunderstanding persists, the more the misunderstanding becomes reality. In a sort of paradoxical manner the difference in perspective unites in a mutual dislike or hatred. And you've probably seen that and you're right to want to act on it.

So, yeah, it's been said already I believe but it doesn't hurt to say it again; have them sit down and talk to each other. They need to hear it from you and each other, that they're propagating their own perception of the issue beyond reason due to the circumstances and tunnel vision regarding perspective. Mostly regarding Dylan, though it can apply to Leah too, there needs to be a better effort to not only communicate clearly, in a two-sided manner, but to simply look at the other person's perspective and try to understand better. And the communication would obviously help that happen, and you, as a mediator, have the objective of seeing both sides of the story, as well as having a third-party opinion. So bring them together, with you, exercise your judgement, tell them from an objective perspective what's happening, you know, that it's a misunderstanding, and have them talk to each other and listen to what the other person has to say instead of talking AT one another or talking ABOUT the other person, because that will help to propagate misunderstanding.

Sometimes friends do incredibly stupid things, and you have to remind them, firmly and honestly, that you're there for them and that as their friend they're being stupid ;). Everybody's different, and as their friend you will probably know the best way to approach them, so do what you can to open their eyes and cleanse their vision of misunderstanding. That's my advice; I hope it helps and I hope they manage to regain their middle ground with each other~

8 Name: MekakushiActor : 2015-05-23 18:14 ID:DMBBRRvx [Del]

>>5 Mhm!
>>6 >>7 >>3 Thank you guys so much! I will try my best to get them together to talk about it. We don't have classes with each other or even the same lunch, but I will find out the best way to get them both together to talk. I can't thank you guys enough!

9 Name: ^Ravis^ : 2015-05-23 19:09 ID:Ll8Q4Bjn [Del]

No problem~ :D Were all Dollars, so we help each other out ne~