Hello everyone. Before I start discussing my problem I have to say I am aware there is a dollars suicide hotline thread, but I need specific information so I made a new thread. Ok let's get started. So, first of all, when I say i'm talking about a friend I mean an online friend, not a friend I know at school. We've only been friends for a bit, and have chatted and she's a wonderful person, but also stuggles with depression and suicidal thoughts. Not too long ago, something set her off(from what she told me she had a bad fight with a good friend/loved one, and the person is ignoring her as well as having a tough family life). This has deeply disturbed her and she has become extremely suicidal. She was going to kill herself 2 days ago, but I managed to talk her out of it after talking with her for over an hour or more. She said she would get help, but she got bad again and is struggling and won't listen to me. I have never been clinically depressed or suicidal before, so I can't help her as much as I'd like, and she is completely against getting professional help or calling a suicide hotline. I really need to help her but all the information i've found on helping friends has been for irl friends and not online friends. I am terrified she'll go through with it soon because she told me she has no intention of living much longer no matter what. I can't help her enough and she isn't getting help for herself. I really need advice on how I can help her or how I can get her to help herself or get her close ones to help her.

I am so sorry to hear that you friend is acting that way. Why don't you talk to her of how important she is to you? Make her realize that she does matter in this world?, after all you're there for her and just explain to her that killing herself is not the best answer. Well I actually don't know if I am helping here but that's what I would do. Do her parents know this?

>>2 I've tried to get her to talk to her parents but she seems to think they don't care. Some other people who know her been trying to help but she seems to think no one cares even though she is very important to many people. I'll definetly try talking to her some more and showing her that she matters. Thank you for your advice ^^

>>3Try to make her a letter and cheer her up, take her to the beach or somewhere :3, that relaxes people and maybe she'd think about what she is doing. Do you remember Izaya's quotes? "In order to escape the mundane you must keep evolving. Whether you go up or down doesn't matter"


No problem I'm here to help ♥

>>5 Keep trying to talk her out of it! Tell her that you care, that you'd be sad, that you're there for her. Keep telling her it'll get better, maybe even mention this site to her. Don't give up! ^^

I kind of know what your going through, but It was with a best friend irl. She was having suicidal thoughts and was telling me and my friends about it one day. But all I remember from it was just standing there frozen as she told me that she was ready to 'give up'. Thankfully she didn't. But even though she didn't go through with it my biggest regret was my own silence. As her best friend I feel as though I should have said something to her to convince her against it, but for some reason I had stayed silent.
So this is my advice to you. Do your best to help her through. don't stay silent. Or you may regret it later.

Some of the stuff I'm might say may sound a bit harsh, as I tend to be quite blunt and judgemental. But I will try my best to keep it as sweet as possible. Please continue reading if you think you or your friend can handle it.

Firstly, your friend is being rather selfish. Trying to commit suicide, or at least thinking of suicide and not regarding the feelings of people around them? Does she seriously think that nobody will care if she died?
From what you've said, it sounds like she's having a tough time with her family. But that does not determine that nobody in her family will not grieve for her. There should be at least one person there who cares about her, or she wouldn't still be in that family. She would've been abandoned ages ago.
And when you said "she seems to think no one cares".......... This is the top most annoying sentence of all sentences I ever hear. I dunno how many friends this girl has, but from what I know is that she at least has one, and that's you Lunacordelia. How can she not realise that there ARE friends around her that care about her?! Is she seriously that pig-headed enough to not even regard what her friends would think when she dies? Sure, "everyone dies", and people get over other people's deaths over a certain period of time. But they will still get hurt by your death, and that does not mean that they will forget you. The fact that you commit suicide for your own interest without even trying to fix it will not only make the people around you sad, but also mad at you.

If she wants her pain to go away, suicide is NOT the answer. She needs to realise that she needs to shape up her life and make it better for herself, cos nobody else is gonna do it for her. There will be other people who will help and support her, but the one who has to change is determined by her. I know it's tough, but she has to bear with the pain till she can find a way out, like moving out and getting a job or going to college.
She has to promise herself that once she gets out of that house with that troubled family of hers, she's going to get into a good college/get a good job, and she'll meet lots of new great friends who will support her, and she'll meet an amazing person who will love her to bits. And once she's done that, she'll look back on her life and say "Wow, I went through all of that and made it to here, and now my life is great".
Does she not know what to do with her life? The best thing to do is find a hobby. It can be watching anime, reading manga, drawing, dancing, singing, making/editing videos, painting, playing an instrument, taking care of cats or dogs or whatever animal, hairstyling, doing make-up, writing stories, acting, voice acting, doing sports, particapating in charities, learning new languages and cultures, teaching and tutoring, and so much more!! When people find a particular hobby they are passionate about, they will find some sort of goal and meaning in their life. That's how I gained my goal to become an animator or a manga artist from watching anime and reading manga and drawing.

Your friend is not alone. There are many many many people just like her around the world who down everyday because they were to scared to stand back up. There are people I know who were abandoned by their real parents, people who have absolutely no freedom from their family, people who are orphans and watched their parents die, people who have cancer, people whose feelings were being toyed with by the person they loved. And they're all still alive, bearing with the pain and continuing to walk forwards with their backs straight.
Hana Maru is right about talking to her. Whatever you do, don't stop talking her out of suicidal thoughts. Although it does not entirely mean that talking her out of it will completely stop her, but it will make her put the thought on hold.
Tell her some of the stuff I said about how she can make her life better if she just keeps on going. She has to do it herself. She has to make herself stronger. But you and her friends will be there to support her. Even if her family seems troubled, I'm sure they would support you too. You should be a little strict and blunt on her, cos a lot of times suicidal people don't want to listen to others. But don't be too mean, as that will also hurt her, so also be kind to her feelings. "Be cruel to be kind".

Your friend should also take a look at two videos by a guy named Shane Dawson on YouTube. He's pretty famous, so I wouldn't be surprised of you heard of him. But anyway, he made two videos I think are really good for your friend to watch.
Shane was born into a family with an abusive alcoholic father, and he was also an emotional eater and bullied horribly in high school because of his weight. And look at him now - Slimmed down his weight, an amazin girlfriend, a whole ton of fans on YouTube, and a great YouTube and acting career. I know not everyone can get to the top as much as him, but living long enough to get your own family will become the happiest time of your life, as long as you make the right decisions.
Anyway, here are the videos:
1. http://youtu.be/VPLEdUPQNH4
2. http://youtu.be/cAZRXDF-Gfk

I hope for all the best for you and your friend. Your friend's life has much more importance than she thinks it has~!

Let her know that she is cared about, wanted, and will be mourned over for years if she goes through with it. Make sure she knows she is not invisible and is worth the life she has been given. Just make her feel good, and like she can stand on her own two feet. Don't , however, betray her to adults until your efforts have been unsuccessful or are about to be.


(I give this advice because I have been there with my own mental/ emotional unhappiness while on what had been a pleasant walk through my mind garden. Yes. that is what I call it)

tell him that he has friends and being dead ruins all there lives

Tell her that you care for her deeply, though if it doesn't help, I would recommend you to spam her with your own effort. I know it sounds really idiotic to do, but I'm trying suggest to you the best that you can try to do. Ask what she treasures the most in her life, or what her goal is. If she doesn't reply, try calling her (if you have her phone number) and force her to say it. I'm not trying to make it as dramatic as possible, but it's for the best, I'm trying to suggest you what you can do to change your friend's life. Say that she will never bring that goal or treasure along with her in death. Say that you deeply care for her and that anyone is willing to help. Tell her that the world isn't as bad as it is, there are so many things she can do to change herself. Just try your best effort to change her aspects.
And show her this website. Show her what it's about, show her the missions board, the personal board, and everything else. I'm not trying to say that the Dollars is a cool group to join, but I want to make her realize that your not the only one who cares. I care. I care about her. The people on this thread care, and the Dollars, which has millions of members from all across the world, care about her life.
Tell her that there are more people here on here on Earth that could care nothing more but for anyone else.