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The Philosophical Love Thread (81)

1 Name: Neko-tama : 2013-11-23 21:35 ID:F4guGD7f [Del]

This is a thread to discuss Love. I've been with the Dollars for about six months, this is my first thread ever so forgive me if I do something wrong >< I skimmed through all the threads and didn't see a specific thread on this topic; forgive me if there already is one though! Neow, onto the topic at hand.

Neko wants to kneow:

- What is your philosophy on Love?

- What does the term "Love" mean to you?

- Is finding Love really up to us? What's your view on destiny?

- What is your ideal "Lover"?

- What is the perfect relationship?

- What's important in a relationship?

- What would you give up for Love?

There is to be no hate on this thread. Opinions and arguments are entirely welcome.

This thread isn't about relationship problems, past relationships, complaining, etc. This is a thread purely on the philosophy on Love, based on what you want, what you have learned; even if you've never experienced love or have fallen countless times.

Neko's philosophy is that who we fall in love with isn't up to us, it's up to fate. Love to me is that feeling you get when you truly care for someone, it's the best feeling ever but can also be the most painful. Neko's ideal relationship is one of which her name is based off of, "Neko" meaning "Cat", the kind of loving relationship I want will be based off of the analogy of a "pet". (I am using this completely as a metaphor!) I want a relationship where I'll always come home to someone who loves me more than anyone else and the same thing for when he comes home. Where the world, life, problems don't matter. We'd always wait for each other. And instead of someone who argues about stupid things, worries about status, money, etc., I'd be someone who just wants to be together, like a pet. Instead of loving me for my "pedigree" and looks, they'd love me for my mischievous, playful personality. Basically we'd just want to be together, nothing else would matter. Being a yandere, I'd do pretty much anything for the one that I love, even if it meant dying or going against the entire world. On a practical note, yes money is important, yes the same interests are important (I could never ever be with someone who hated anime!), yes intelligence is also important, but the most important thing is the will to be together, anything is possible to overcome so long as together they posses that.

Opinions! I want opinions! If you think my philosophy is ridiculous then I want to hear it (I'm not easily offended so be honest.) :3

2 Name: AbeMao : 2013-11-25 03:07 ID:3HkaVmZ3 [Del]

Im a demi-homosexual Love means you have an emotional attraction to someone. You build a solid relationship with her. Love to me Is something you find your self there is no destiny to bind you with your perfect love. My ideal lover doesn't have to be good looking she just has to be a kind and gentil person who put others before her self. Someone who also know how to make me laugh and has a great sense of humor I know cliche as it sounds. I'd give up everything I owned to be with her and all worldly possession. I'd be willing to do what ever she said to make her happy.

3 Name: Neko-tama : 2013-11-25 08:27 ID:F4guGD7f [Del]

>>2 that's so sweet! :3 Cliches in love are a necessity, I don't kneow why people consider them like every other cliche, they aren't negative.

4 Name: AbeMao : 2013-11-25 09:14 ID:3HkaVmZ3 [Del]

>>3 thanks I guess I keep thinking I'm not as normal as every other girl. Im glad I am though it makes her happy that I'm the Girly one.

5 Name: Shadow : 2013-11-27 16:57 ID:4VOh9lr8 [Del]

Love is an over powering emotion that is a huge link to other emotions it drives to mates together from the affection they feel for one another but love to me is some one who I can trust and count on but isn't too clingy or girly

6 Name: Doug !WAdchFoEJk!!XI8GEi6V : 2013-11-28 21:45 ID:CNPHiArL [Del]

Well, lot to type here, so here we go.

Love to me, is in stages, and forms. It seems to me, you can love something, or not love something. You can love in the romantic sense, or love in the platonic sense (Family, kinship, friends), it's all love to me, and i feel we should always feel gracious being able to love.
I also think that we can't choose who we love, it's all by chance, whatever you wish to call it, fate, destiny, god, randomness, mystic Cathulu magic, we aren't able to just decide when, where, and who we love. It takes time, and often times you'll stumble across it, like a rare gem, accept with less corporeal value, and symbolic meta-physical value.
Any-who, in the term of a relationship, it's some kind of shared responsibility, ideally we are sharing our lives with one another, so 50-50. Though understandably it can't always be a perfect 50-50 share, i feel that both sides need to be sharing in something, regardless of what it is. ( situation dictates it.) but we are taking care of one another, having each other for support, a very idealistic idea yes lol.
To me, it's heart, passion, that i look for in my lover, i prefer them to be closer to my age of course, no more than 2 years younger, maybe a year older. I just want my lover to be intimate, and honest, who doesn't feel the need to hide things from me. Who can forgive me when i mess up, and trust that i'll forgive her when she messes up. Besides that, just be kind to others, and be willing to take interest in my interest, and give me a chance to take interest in hers.
That's my little run down. thanks for the post, rather enjoy this kind of topic.

7 Name: Neko-tama : 2013-11-28 21:58 ID:F4guGD7f [Del]

>>6 when I posted this I actually doubted whether or not people would like it, so thank you~! :3 I love this topic and hearing what others think and feel.

8 Name: Doug !WAdchFoEJk!!XI8GEi6V : 2013-11-28 22:15 ID:CNPHiArL [Del]

>>7 It's strange cuz, not many people seem to talk about it a whole lot. from what i've seen atleast

9 Name: Neko-tama : 2013-11-28 22:52 ID:F4guGD7f [Del]

>>8 same here, it's a touchy subject sometimes but it's nice to discuss nonetheless.

10 Name: Doug !WAdchFoEJk!!XI8GEi6V : 2013-11-28 22:54 ID:CNPHiArL [Del]

>>9 please bring up more threads, or discussions like this, i enjoy these :3

11 Name: Neko-tama : 2013-11-28 23:09 ID:F4guGD7f [Del]

>>10 okay! I'll be sure to think up something sometime :3

12 Name: Doug !WAdchFoEJk!!XI8GEi6V : 2013-11-28 23:11 ID:CNPHiArL [Del]

>>11 thank you madam neko :3

13 Name: Cocoa : 2013-11-30 06:31 ID:mcrx5SGg [Del]

I'll answer your questions in detail one by one.

Love is like a baby. Wait please read more, don't take assumptions. I mean when we hear babies laughing, we smile. When we hear babies crying, we'll also..well we don't cry too.. We'll get frustrated and goes into a bad mood, no? Point is, it affects our emotion greater than anything. And it always comes as both a blessing and a curse. To raise a baby and to love someone, you have to make sacrifices and go through a lot of things, but it can be very rewarding. (ask einstein's parents. They are happy having a genius son but his researches keeps the house exploding)

Second question, answer's pretty much the same. It's both a blessing and a curse.

Third, people don't find love. They will either fall into one, walk into one, or bump into one. Call me naive, even I sometimes dream about meeting that 'soulmate'. But people won't need love until they have it, know what I mean? You have a great life before meeting that someone, and after that you still have a life if not the same then greater.

My ideal lover.. One and foremost, someone who can understand me completely and accepts me for who I am. And not a criminal. That's all.

The perfect relationship is the imperfect one. When two friends fights, they will get angry, perhaps even shed some tears. But after that they will make up and get closer than before, right? It's good to have a peaceful relationship, but pulling through some bumps in life together can get two people closer than ever.

Thanks for reading. Sorry it gets too long.. :)

14 Name: Neko-tama : 2013-11-30 14:58 ID:F4guGD7f [Del]

>>13 that's fine! Long posts are awesome! :3
I like your baby analogy, I've never thought of it like that before. I definitely agree with it being a curse, it's the best feeling in the entire world yet it can be the most painful. I dream about my soulmate almost every night X3

15 Name: kanra : 2013-11-30 18:51 ID:avldFR2e [Del]

yeah ^^

love to me is like knowing that you have someone who excepts you for who you are ^^ id be lost without all of the people that i love (specifically my friends)

16 Name: ಠ_ಠ-- Lone-Wolf-kyle- !.WOLFPmOzY : 2013-12-01 06:56 ID:nQNJI/s1 [Del]

I'm too young and inexperienced to fully understand love, but I'll still give the "What is your philosophy on Love?" a shot

To me love is one of the keys to true happiness, to love someone is to share happiness with them, Love is anything you can share happiness with like your parents, siblings, partners, friends and pets/animals. I don't believe you can love inanimate objects because you can't share happiness with it, That is why it's not right to say that you love your car, clothes and other vanity stuff. and that's my philosophy for love (if this qualifies as a philosophy) ಠ_ಠ

17 Name: Neko-tama : 2013-12-02 01:28 ID:F4guGD7f [Del]

>>16 That's a philosophy ^^

18 Name: Solace !o0GOqY0U0w : 2013-12-02 05:26 ID:aW2dhSVc [Del]

I personally find it easy to resist the urge to (excuse the pun) romanticize love. Basically, our entire perceived reality exists within our head. Because of that, things such as emotions can seem like they take up our entire reality and dominate large parts of our lives. Love is a particularly strong emotion, half because it's pretty necessary to make life viable for most humans, and half because we are such incredibly social creatures. While you're in love, it can seem so vast and unending, but quite possibly it will. There is no point in being ridiculous about it, it's just a fact.

Of course, there is not reason to say that you shouldn't let yourself get caught up in that emotion. Why should we stop something so great? If the love get's dysfunctional, it should be worked on; but love is one of the greatest motivational pleasures in life, I don't see why we would want to analyse and simplify that.

Basically, while it's good to recognise that love is not this omnipotent force, it's also nice to let go and enjoy the ride it can give.

19 Name: Neko-tama : 2013-12-02 08:31 ID:F4guGD7f [Del]

>>18 I love your answer! And I really wonder what it would be like if love wasn't so romanticized. Originally it was just the emotion necessary to find a mate and protect and nurture children, which is a bit of a natural assumption. What's also interesting is the actions people can take when love is their motivating force.

20 Name: Doug !WAdchFoEJk!!XI8GEi6V : 2013-12-03 12:50 ID:l+UL28d9 [Del]

>>19 Quite simply, love can be a good and bad thing, i double edged sword if you would. Amazing feats can be accomplished ( especially in the world of art mind you) through love. Quite opposite however, many atrocious things can come about as well. I agree, love is an extremely powerful emotion, it may even be the greatest, if not equal to that of anger. Unfortunately, depending on the person, and their mindset, having something that powerful can be corrupted, even if it seems to occur in purity. Even so, think of some of the most amazing events, creations, etc. that have been created out of love, then look at the atrocities that have been committed in the same name. We truly are driven by our emotions, whether we really see it, it's all of those chemicals and feelings produced in our mind that make us what we are, and what makes humans that much different from other species.
All in all, i agree with >>18 on the account that it is an amazing sensation, and we should not ever try to stop it, however, an interesting point was made here >>19 in which, before there was the sensation of "loving" someone, there was the necessity to find a mate and reproduce. As we grew into more, how we would say, "advanced" organisms, the emotions we experienced gained more definition, and we gained a better, if not limited understands of our own conscious desires and emotions. So before there was romance, there was the need to reproduce.

21 Name: Doug !WAdchFoEJk!!XI8GEi6V : 2013-12-03 13:40 ID:l+UL28d9 [Del]

>>19 Also, examples of things made out of love/ events that occurred or could occur through the motivation of love:

Good: -Shakespeare's plays (ie. romeo and Juliet, etc.) Or any form of poetry or art, music, novel etc. Many are inspired by a compassionate feeling towards a significant othr ( i have been there personally, wrote ALOT of poetry and short novels for a girl i really cared about)
-The great Taj-ma hall in India was created (if i remember correctly) as a memorial for the rulers deceased queen ( or something along those lines, you guys can correct me if i'm wrong).
-People have changed their ways and turned their lives around, became better people for the sake of someone they love.
-You can save someone's life that you love dearly, and you most likely will if the feeling is strong enough.
-Gifting of precious items, and acts of kindness ( buying nice things for people to put it simply)
etc. etc.
However there is a dark side to this, as there is to everything in life.
Bad things that can/will/ may have already occurred due to the motivation of love.
-Attempts to harm others/yourself for love of another person ( maybe the person doesn't love you back, or someone else has that person and you're envious, depends).
- Romeo and Juliet killed themselves because they couldn't be together, so to be together, they hoped to be meet in heaven.
- People can become vain and conceited , or be something they are not in the hopes of impressing, or being the person that someone they are in love with wants them to be.

There's a lot that can happen just based around one's love alone. Just the ones above are what i can name right off the top of my head.
Hope i've contributed something helpful. Love the thread.

22 Name: Neko-tama : 2013-12-03 14:33 ID:F4guGD7f [Del]

>>21 Doug-kun you make this thread awesome, thank you~! ^^
Another interesting negative act based off of Love is revenge. Not all revenge is a result of love but a lot of it is. It's a wonderfully dangerous emotion, especially when one's love becomes warped, when it can overpower one's mental stability and sanity taking a toll on them as well as everyone around them.
At the same time, some people don't actually start "living" until they fall in love. Also love can be used for manipulation purposes, and deceive people as well.
It can really break some people to the point in which they will do absolutely anything in order to preserve their sense of love, like a drug.

It's all so vast X3
Love could also be considered a drug, a poison, and/or a cure all.

23 Name: Doug !WAdchFoEJk!!XI8GEi6V : 2013-12-03 17:52 ID:CNPHiArL [Del]

>>22 A cure in moderation, and a drug in excess, that's how i view it. Like any prescription a doctor gives you, it's only in particular amounts, and you can overdose.

(also if i'm not mistaken, you would put -kun at the end of females, and -sama at the end of males, if i'm not mistaking my grammar)

24 Name: Neko-tama : 2013-12-03 19:23 ID:F4guGD7f [Del]

>>23 quick honorific lesson "-san" mr/mrs/miss, "-chan" girlfriend/girl friend/less formal for a girl, "-kun" boyfriend/boy friend/less formal for a boy, "-sama" boy or girl who you treat with respect/someone higher up in status. (I may be wrong, but as far as I kneow that's what they are ^^)

25 Name: Doug !WAdchFoEJk!!XI8GEi6V : 2013-12-03 19:50 ID:CNPHiArL [Del]

>>24
HONORIFICS
-chan cute; baby talk. Children who grow up together may keep using the -chan honorific into adulthood.For close friends and relatives, especially female ones.
-kun familer title after name of colleague or student, usually male. Used for male friends and relatives. It can be used for women as well, but typically is not.
-san: Mr., Ms., Mrs., Miss.; The suffix denoting that the person being spoken to is of equal or nearly equal social status. It is not used for people you know well.

26 Name: Doug !WAdchFoEJk!!XI8GEi6V : 2013-12-03 19:51 ID:CNPHiArL [Del]

>>24 i was dead wrong and you were mostly right XD, anyways, back to thread topic.
Continue posting your points and ideas guys :3

27 Name: EvilKatBatGirl : 2013-12-05 07:41 ID:oXC3D/4N [Del]

Love is a stupid feeling that humans use because they fear being alone. Of course it applies to me as well, but I've learned to suppress it. Desitiny does and doesn't at the same time. I believe it leads certain people, not all. As for an ideal lover, who knows? Kinda just live in the moment. And appearently I already had the "perfect relationship" at one point last year, until his family called me a whore.

I hope I don't sound mean in thing QAQ I'm sorry if I sound mean.

28 Name: Solace !o0GOqY0U0w : 2013-12-05 07:54 ID:aW2dhSVc [Del]

>>21 I agree with that completely, apart from the Shakespeare part. His plays were fucked up in ways that showed the truly dysfunctional side of love. I am a big fan of his work, but I personally believe that people misinterpret Romeo and Juliet quite commonly. It was more of an incredibly dark satire than anything else; Romeo and Juliet was about the dangerous, twisted nature of love, and the rashness of youth. Let's face it, too; Romeo was a fickle twat that got a heart-on for every beautiful girl that gave him the time of day, and Juliet was a young, naive, tween in the making, that got caught up in things she shouldn't have. If anything, I think Romeo and Juliet was a precautionary tale, a dark satire, and a very subtle fuck you to the very popular, sappy romance plays of the time.

29 Name: Neko-tama : 2013-12-05 08:57 ID:F4guGD7f [Del]

>>28 Agreed, I really love Shakespeare and the darkness to his work. I got into his plays thanks to the anime Zetsuen no Tempest which was based off of Hamlet and the Tempest. I'm now a president of a literature club X3 Hamlet is one of the best things that I've ever read, and although it had been a tragedy, it still displayed the dysfunctions with love. Like how people can put their goals before their lovers, and mistreat them, then feel horrible when their lover leaves them.
Love is also a gamble in a way, you can't gain anything without sacrificing anything, what I mean is you sometimes have to risk having your heart broken, and sometimes you have to compromise in order to have a healthy functioning relationship.
>>27 an opinion is an opinion is an opinion! Even if it is negative, negatives are necessary for a healthy discussion ^^

30 Name: Doug !WAdchFoEJk!!XI8GEi6V : 2013-12-05 13:24 ID:l+UL28d9 [Del]

>>28 Well on a basis i personally felt the sappy romances were a bit much. Always though " THIS ISN'T HOW IT WORKS!!" every single time I've read a romance at-least lol. Maybe i'm picking bad romances to analyze, but regardless i do agree with you on that part. I was mainly finding an image commonly associated with love ( After all, the first thing that often pops up is Shakespeare's "Romeo and Juliet". Regardless, i enjoyed Shakespeare because i found him to be the first person to truely bring Satire to its heights. In any case, i do agree.

>>27 As for this, i kinda disagree with you on this part (not meaning to offend, hope i'm not offending). But it is true that human beings require attention, and need companionship, but i think love and fear of loneliness are two different things. You can love your family, and have a family to love, but still be afraid to be alone, or even yet, you could still feel alone. Love is that feeling you get for the " ideal companion" as it were. The rest of your post seems a bit personal so I'd rather not delve in ones personal life without invitation. However, that post makes me suspicious that your personal experience as of late is affecting your current opinion. ( Once again, don't wish to sound offensive in any way, and also you didn't sound very mean, just a little vindictive, which is quite alright ^.^)

31 Name: Neko-tama : 2013-12-12 00:53 ID:F4guGD7f [Del]

I thought up more questions :3

How important is humanity? How much humanity does one need in order to love? Can love really change someone, not just the surface but deep down in the very core of the person? Can love really save someone?

Here's what I think. Humanity is important, although some can discard some of it, they can't relinquish it all. It makes us feel emotions ourselves as well as for others, so even if a person has next to none of their humanity, they can still love.
I'm sure love changes people, we're shaped by our experiences, love can be considered an experience. Since this is philosophical, I won't go into personal details, but yes I've changed because I've loved and been loved back.
This is going to sound really cheesy but the power of love is strong and can save even the most damaged of souls! I believe that, it's one of my ideals.

Neow, Neko wants more opinions so let out your inner hopeless romantic and philosophical side! :3

32 Name: Haruhi : 2013-12-12 16:17 ID:QoWX75+D [Del]

Love exists because we believe it does. You have to believe that love exists in order to fall in love. Yeah, you'll doubt it and yeah, you'll be discouraged but you cant doubt something if you dont believe in it, right?

Love is a dream. Not everybody dreams but everybody can dream. Your love doesnt have to be a person. It can be art or literature or.. Anything to be honest. Anything with reason at least, so dont fall in love with the taste of human flesh or something..

You cant wait for destiny. You have to make it yourself. Go out, do things, meet people. Dont be farsighted. Look for outlets to help people or outlets to express yourself.

My boyfriend.

One where its evident that you care about each other.. None of that selective care shit. Its something you cant really show externally. Its just something you know.

You know, at the risk of sounding naive and everything

33 Name: Yochana : 2013-12-12 16:51 ID:hdtCRoHf [Del]

Honestly, I don't really care about love, it's just not suited to me personally, but I guess my perfect guy would be someone that's caring and considerate, that's willing to make a fool of himself for me and to respect my opinions. Oh and they have to be like super tough to put up with me!

34 Name: Zero : 2013-12-12 18:07 ID:rjjOUNq6 [Del]

Love only exists because we as humans believe it does. It's such a mundane word, love. It is not real, and doesn't exist.

35 Name: Doug !WAdchFoEJk!!XI8GEi6V : 2013-12-13 05:14 ID:CNPHiArL [Del]

>>31 Well, to answer the first question, our emotion is directly tied to what we call humanity. Having humanity gives us emotion, lack of humanity take away emotion. Deep down i don't think anyone can ever be truly in humane, but suppressing ones own emotions, and acting without emotion, is the same as acting without humanity.

Can love save someone? Well, save is a powerful word, one stronger, and above simply helping someone. Buuttt, yes, love can save a person, it can heal them. Maybe it can't save everyone, and maybe it's not a universal cure, but yes, it is something that can save someone's life, depending what it is that person needs.

36 Name: CybeatB : 2013-12-13 06:59 ID:y/Sva+8r [Del]

I think that 'Love' isn't something you find so much as something you do. You don't treat somebody well because you love them, treating them well *is* loving them. The love in any particular relationship is basically unique, because people are different. It also grows and changes, just like the people. It might not be present in every relationship, but it's there to some extent in many relationships. Most people love their friends to some degree, for example. I think that who we love is up to us, as much as who we spend time with and how we treat them.

I think that one's lover should also be their closest friend, the friend that they love the most. To me, love is trust, honesty, openness, patience, spending time together, and physical intimacy if we are particularly close. In any relationship, an appropriate amount of love is the most important thing. What is appropriate will vary with different people.

As for what I would give up, the question doesn't really fit with my view. I choose how much I love somebody, they choose how much they love me. It's not terribly complicated.

37 Name: One : 2013-12-16 22:27 ID:2xwNSUbh [Del]

Love doesn't exist.

38 Name: Neko-tama : 2013-12-17 00:27 ID:F4guGD7f [Del]

>>37 I'd accept your answer if you actually supported your statement with a feasible argument.

39 Name: Abysswalker : 2013-12-17 01:15 ID:ZeM8Tk/r [Del]

Love exists but we as people either murder what love we have, settle for what what we think we deserve, or we miss it completely. Love is scarce because we don't show it enough. Taking out the trash, shovelling an entire block's snow, making breakfast for a sibbling that haz pissed you off, forgiving someone who has hurt you, doing somrthing for someone not because they deserfve it, but because they don't. Love isn't a feeling, it's a choice, a comitment, a lifestyle. No greater a love than this: That a brother (anyone) would lay down their life for another in their place. Lovd is doing something for someone even when every atom in your body says no. Love is kind, caring, compassionate, patient, slow to anger and quick to listen. It lifts someone up rather than tear them down. It says we are free when the judge and jury say you're guilty. It's comfort to the heartbroken, it's food for the hungry, it's clothing for the naked, it's shelter for the homeless. All of which expecting nothing in return. It is overlooking somronr's flaws and accepting them for everything they are. It's a helping hand when someone has stumbled. It's perfectly gift wrapped in the shape of a Cross. What is my ideal lover? Someone who strives to be all that I have listed above and though they may fail over and over again, they keep standing up again with a fire in their eyes that says,"If my God is for me, who can be against me? And if my God is with me, what can stand against me?" I strive to be that myself, and while I do enjoy Dark Souls, there is a deeper meaning to my username. Abysswalker reminds me of the dark times I endured, the dark times I will endure and the dark times of others I hope to be a beacon of light in and be more like Jesus. Marxhing through the darkness and fighting alongside those who had given up hope, offering the hope that was given to me. There is love in this world, but we need to spread the flame for it to shine brightly, rather than hiding it under a rock. There is no perfect relationship, but you will find the one, kne day. The question is, and I ask myself this every day and every night, will I be ready to commit to them?

40 Name: BarabiSama !!C8QPa1Mt : 2013-12-17 19:37 ID:xnjkssHQ [Del]

Last I remember, we had about four different threads that already discussed what this thread brings up... :L Most of them are on Main, I think. There's one about what Love means, one about whether or not love at first sight exists, etc. Then we have a lot of relationship threads here and in Random that ask about what your dream spouse would be, etc. How did this thread weasle its way in? .-.

41 Name: Neko-tama : 2013-12-18 00:04 ID:F4guGD7f [Del]

>>40 Sorry Barabi, I made this thread because there wasn't one really like it. It's similar but also different, meant for philosophical purposes while still being fairly personal. When I made this thread, the personal board was really, really depressing and needed something to brighten it up; philosophies of others brighten my day and hopefully other's as well. Don't sage it please....

>>39 that first sentence.. *^*
It's true though, love is definitely neglected.

I'm adding karma to this neow.
Neko neow wants to kneow if giving love gives love back in return?
I believe strongly that it does most definitely, however it's usually unnoticed by most. We can fail to realize all the different types of love in the world that surround us, some of it may even be shrouded in utter darkness and hatred.

42 Name: BarabiSama !!C8QPa1Mt : 2013-12-18 06:37 ID:xnjkssHQ [Del]

>>41 Nah, I think the threads would have belonged here in the first place, and the topics are related enough that they might as well be in the same thread. A lot of the ones I mentioned were made before the Personal board was made. I'm all for knocking them off and keeping this one.

43 Name: Neko-tama : 2013-12-18 23:50 ID:F4guGD7f [Del]

>>42 thank you so much~! :3

44 Name: Aki chan : 2013-12-19 06:18 ID:NbREVkXy [Del]

all i can say is that love is a complicated thing and its like gambling.if you go overboard,your partner might find you weird and might end it,if you 'bet'to less,its like you being very boring and not giving a damn about anything.its complicated to even explain this so gomei!,but thats my view on love

45 Name: Neko-tama : 2013-12-19 18:16 ID:F4guGD7f [Del]

>>44 that's okay X3 love is a very very very complicated thing sometime.

Personally, (I really don't want to add anything personal to a philosophy but I've learned something today;) with love comes despair. The more I that I love the more it hurts and the more it hurts the more I appreciate it. Almost to the point in which I want to feel nothing at all but then realize that that would be so much worse. "Love is War" I think I understand that neow and it's completely true, I just hope that I'm not fighting a battle for naught....but I guess you can't win a battle without risking your life, your heart, and even your sanity; it just depends on how much you're willing to lose.

46 Name: Doug !WAdchFoEJk!!XI8GEi6V : 2013-12-20 08:45 ID:CNPHiArL [Del]

>>45 Neko the lesson is that philosophy is personal lol, you can share personal experiences all you want, because it shapes your views and opinions.

Also the part about love being a battlefield, perfect gold in those words. But i think many people fail to realize that it's not the end of the world just because you lose the war. Sometimes it does hurt, but that's what comes from having emotions. But many wars will be fought in our lifetimes over this, and many will be lost, but there will be the few we win that make the difference, because those victories are what keep us company for the rest of our lives.

47 Name: Neko-tama : 2014-02-14 13:43 ID:F4guGD7f [Del]

It's Valentines Day so I thought I'd bump this up again.
Have a philosophy about love? Do share it :3

48 Name: Mycroft : 2014-02-14 15:39 ID:LAP+Aw9R [Del]

Love is simply a chemical response generated by our limbic system and glorified outrageously by our current culture who deems that love is the most valuable thing in the world and is blind, despite the fact that it is tied in heavily with sexual attraction. Love is no more special than eating a nice piece of chocolate, and a mind blowing orgasm is just our bodies' way of making heroin.

49 Name: Shepherd : 2014-02-14 17:03 ID:Iahp2tne [Del]

From the perspective of someone who has never even dated before, love is something I want to experience(the romantic kind anyway). From what I have observed(and heard), it seems like people who are truly in love seem to know from the start, or at least very early on. While it is something you should long for, it can also be very dangerous, as I have seen what love does when it goes wrong. So in the end, it seems the best way to describe love is a drug. Love can do amazing things, but at the same time can cause unimaginable problems.

Again, from observations, not form personal experience.

50 Name: Liber : 2014-02-15 02:35 ID:DcjFpV8K [Del]

Hello, Hello! I certainly wanted to chime in with my views.

"- What is your philosophy on Love?"

I believe at the deepest parts of our soul, even if we don't realize it, that it's our greatest desire. I also believe it could fix the world, if only we could all maintain it somehow...

"- What does the term "Love" mean to you?"

Put simply, Love to me is "Shared Selfishness"
It's when two of our most ugly inherent things syncs with another and creates something beautiful.

"- Is finding Love really up to us? What's your view on destiny?"

This one is hard. I personally believe in a higher power guiding us. But also that, that higher powers only grants us opportunity. That is is solely up to us to act upon it.
Ask someone that interests you on a date, get to know them as people better. -You may just fall in love.

"- What is your ideal "Lover"?"

Haha, oh my. I'm a loud talkative jokester. But only because I feel like I have to be to get attention. (I think it's some deep rooted mommy ignoring me thing. Ohh weelll)

I'm naturally a quiet person, a deep thinker, I need that in my partner. Someone that sees the deeper things in life. Or at least has a desire to. To put it simply -- I want someone that hates the world as much as I do, but also has a desire to do something about it.

"- What is the perfect relationship?"

One that is completely open. One where each person allows and helps the other to understand their reasoning for everything they do. Wrong and right may exist in black and white, but through our eyes and hearts everything we do has a reason and justification. Wrong or not, we're built weak and foolish.

51 Name: Liber : 2014-02-15 02:38 ID:DcjFpV8K [Del]

A little P.S.

I also believe the sensation of love is physically explainable. Same with all emotions.

But just because something can be broken down into smaller processes and explain by scientific ways. --Dos that make it any less amazing or special?

You look at a sweet car as a whole, not at every screw and bolt that composes it!

52 Name: foreversigh : 2014-02-15 05:30 ID:8kd8gHWS [Del]

I've been wondering about love as well. To be honest I think of it a lot like I think of "true" friends (see my thread of not having real friends) and that most love isn't real. The way I see it love has to be completely open both ways so that you can speak openly to each other with confidence that they won't get offended and that they will either understand you or understand and trust that they they have a fair viewpoint (that you would probably do the same in their shoes and that you don't understand their position enough).
What makes a friend different from a lover? I have no idea. It seems like something like fate connects us but if you take that out of the picture what then?
If there is a perfect person out there for everyone then maybe we don't always meet them. I don't know the reasoning for people believing that we will always find the right person for us. Maybe there is but we just don't meet them.
Or maybe it's not that there is a perfect person out there for everyone but rather that there are perfect potential couples out there. To be entirely open and real is something that I don't think everyone can do so there might be 2 kinds of people. 1 The kind who it's not possible to be in a perfect relationship with and who just have to settle and make do and 2. The kind who can experience true love and possibly will.
As far as what true love is, I have no idea. I think that love probably would have to have some kind of deep, connection in our hearts or souls or something, that is unexplainable and doesn't make sense to us. Is love some kind of force or aura that isn't from this dimension or is the world just made like that?
I like to think about deep and interesting ideas or topics like a connection between this world or existence and the next so maybe love is that connection.
Another way that I've looked at love is a bit far ahead of time. My perspective is this; Do I want to contribute to the human race (making babies)? If life is so evil or purposeless then do I really want to make more people enter it? I'm not sure if that at all was relevant but I figured I'd say it anyway.
Maybe love is why we are here. I don't see why anything would come before 'true' love so if it's our main focus in life then would that make it our purpose?
Sorry if I got a bit off topic but there's what little I know about love. I hope I helped or at least was interesting XD

53 Name: whatsupdoc : 2014-02-15 17:47 ID:F7Uuxyf7 [Del]

Though not as well put together, I once did a thread like this called "Your Opinion on the Concept of Love". It wasn't very popular(understandably), but I was satisfied with it.

My philosophy is pretty much covered by >>18. Ones interpretation of love exists within the boundaries of their mindset towards it. That being said; my view on love, or at least the active chasing of that love is that it is a selfish desire, as are most/all desires.

The term "love" for me is a way to express an affinity for something/someone to varying degrees. I use it for showing a sense of respect for something/someone more than anything.

Your question regarding "finding" love is a little trickier, and is akin to what was said by >>13, but still abides by the rules of my philosophical answer. If someone believes that they can find and choose their love, who am I to argue. If someone believes it's all driven by some invisible force, I can't say they're wrong. I have no direct view on this myself at the moment.

"What is your perfect lover" and "what is the perfect relationship"... Don't really have an answer to these yet. Perhaps I'll find out someday. If I had to take a guess, I'd say I'd just like a reflection of the aspects I like about myself. Isn't that what a lot of us are looking for?

I suppose that being able to share and debate idea's and opinions while still being able to find equal grounds, as well as just being able to let things go and live as we can would be important.

My libido and my mustache.

54 Name: Neko-tama : 2014-02-16 00:19 ID:yAPFd8Dv [Del]

>>50 I loved your answers! :3
>>53 I agree, well when we consider the cliche "my lover completes me!", one could think of the perfect lover having aspects similar to those that we have and therefore "complete" them.
>>52 Back to the topic of fate, yes I agree. Fate can open doors but it's up to us to take them. I know this because of my mom, she's found love but didn't go for it, then ended up marrying someone she didn't love later on. That's why I try not to regret not taking chances on love.
I just realized something. I was thinking of what I really want in a partner and I came to realize that the person I'm currently in love with fit every single one of them. This realization cleared away a few of my doubts. Doubts are like poison so in terms of love, we all should try our best not to doubt so much and not give up on the ones we love so easily. But knowing when to give up is important too I guess it's a two-way street X3 like most things in life.

55 Name: Doug !WAdchFoEJk!!XI8GEi6V : 2014-02-16 11:02 ID:CNPHiArL [Del]

Good to see this threads still thriving :3

56 Name: Lizlet : 2014-02-18 09:34 ID:olItGks7 [Del]

To me love is an limitation of infinite. My idea lover is someone is who i can love humanity like me.

57 Name: TK-San : 2014-02-18 11:36 ID:34PMOXxl [Del]

- What is your philosophy on Love?
It is really hard to put on words a feeling. It is even worse to put in words your way of thinking about that feeling. My philosophy in love, I think, is to give to one another a part of you. A part you can only give to that special person. That's why one love will never be the same as another one.

- What does the term "Love" mean to you?
Love is love. It is to share emotions you usually share only with your own with another person you trust so much or even more than in yourself. The passion and affection for that person will come as a result for these sharings.

- Is finding Love really up to us? What's your view on destiny?
Finding love... I guess it depents on each person. I'm in love right now, me and my girlfriend are together for 4 months now, but it was only possible on beggning because of her friends, who helped her to understand her feelings. My last long relationship lasted for 1 year and a half, and i got a different path to find the love that time. So, if it is destiny? Yes, I think it is, but destiny has many ways to get you through it.

- What is your ideal "Lover"?
Once again, I guess each relationship is special by itself. I'm a very relaxed and patient person, but I'm also very wanting of attention. I love girls who gives that attention to me, but I've already felt in love for girls who did not give that attenttion, for example, and at that time, she was the ideal lover anyway. So, I think there isn't a ideal lover, but there is an Ideal love, that is the ones you're into.

- What is the perfect relationship?
I love relationships that are more like two best friends. I need to talk to the person about things I like, I need to tell her about our relationships problems and discuss about it to get into an understanding, I need to talk to her about sex, about study, about job, about dreams. I'll remember the answer three questions above: Love is sharing. So, what would happen about a not-sharing love?

- What's important in a relationship?
Everything. it goes from the problems and opposite ideas to the macthes and agreements. Everything matters in a relationship, because it is the connection between the couple.

- What would you give up for Love?
I'm very logical, even when I'm in love with someone. So I'm mature enough to do not destroy my life for love... if it is not necessary. I'll always try to find the best wayout to problems of my love, the ones that suits better the couple. But even if in these situations it would be necessary for me to sacrifice something real important of my life for love, I would.

58 Name: syndicatemember!lnkYxlAbaw : 2014-02-18 11:51 ID:gQcCJ6G/ [Del]

Here is what I think, if anyone cares.

1) What is your philosophy on Love?

I believe that love is something that everyone experiences/should experience at least once in their life. Whether is be in the form of compassion, love of sport, or actual intense romantic love everyone experiences it.

2) What does the term "Love" mean to you?

Love, to me, means everything. It has different degrees of meaning and we use the term all the time. We say we love our friends and family. We say we love certain activities or objects. We also say we love our partners. Any way you look at it it means we care deeply for something/someone. Something we have an attachment to.

3) Is finding Love really up to us? What's your view on destiny?

Finding love. Honestly, it is completely up to you. You have to find your own passion in life, and you can find it in the strangest of places. You have to be able to make yourself vulnerable to the environment. There is a destiny for all of us, but its something we forge for ourself.

4) What is your ideal "Lover"?

I have a girlfriend so this might be biased.... BUT to be honest I think I have found mine. My ideal lover isn't going to be perfect. We will fight. We are going to have our differences. But at the end of the day, I am completely happy with having someone like her in my life. Someone I can count on to always mix things up. I know that she has to give me a run for my money. To me, my girlfriend is more than anything I could have ever asked for in my life. She allows me my mistakes and is patient with me so that I can learn. I love her to death and in a few years I know that we will be married and happy.

5) What is the perfect relationship?

The perfect relationship isn't all flowers, candy and gumdrops. It isn't about that kiss under the moonlit sky or in front of a fireworks show. It is someone that can help you grow individually and as a couple. A perfect relationship is one that lasts because neither person gives up on the either and genuinely cares about the other. Thats what I think.

59 Name: Butts :D : 2014-02-18 18:03 ID:ZUA0YFen [Del]

- What is your philosophy on Love?

Love. Lol. Uhm... love is love, I guess. No point on trying to figure it out. It just sort of happens, you know? Whether it be instant, gradual, etc... If I were to define it, it'd be a strong emotion of desire for someone or something. Love, in the romantic sense, is simply one of those things you can't totally comprehend, nonetheless explain. I guess that maybe no one truly is sure. It's like every other emotion. Unexplainable. Random.

- Is finding Love really up to us? What's your view on destiny?

Destiny is real, of course. I've always believed things happened for a reason, that events affected us to mold us into the thing we were meant to be. Obviously, you have a choice as to how you set upon your path. Love, while it may be the result of this choice, does not necessarily follow the same standards. It's one of those 'hate to love you' kind of things, you know? Can't choose who you love, just like you can't choose who your biological parents are. It just happens.

- What is your ideal "Lover"?

Pr'olly someone that's like me. Bookworm. Partially quiet, partially not. Nice but mean. Smart, but stupid. Not easy to explain. I guess someone who is, all in all, a nice person. Someone with good opinions, and someone who understands me. I find that, lately, it's hard to find someone like that though.

- What is the perfect relationship?

One where there is trust, peace, understanding, intimacy, faithfulness, confidence, and of course, love.

- What's important in a relationship?

Your feelings. And your opinions/thoughts, your trust for one another. Your bond.

- What would you give up for Love?

Probably anything. Love is really something I yearn for nowadays. It's pretty freaky.

60 Name: Neko-tama : 2014-03-28 13:49 ID:F4guGD7f [Del]

Bump

61 Name: Tee !pnicnCTgx. : 2014-04-02 02:16 ID:s7T+o6/a [Del]

Well I haven't been in love before, but if I were to fall in love, I think that my ideal lover would be someone that I can finally be comfortable around, someone that I can just be myself around. I also want to have a few common interests with them, like anime or games, just so we have something to talk about.
In all honesty, I don't know if I'm capable of loving another person, and I doubt that there's anyone out there that would love be, but I can dream ~

62 Name: Ngeow : 2014-04-02 10:26 ID:0NdNC6rm [Del]

I don't know what love is because I've never fallen in love before. In my perspective, love for the family is different from your love with someone special. Actually, I want to experience being in love, but I'm still young. I don't want to waste my time in relationships that only last for a while, I want true love. But sometimes, people these days confuse love,lust, and infatuation. I WAS one of them. Once, I actually thought that I was in love with someone, but I was TRULY WRONG. What I felt for him was lust. There was nothing to like about that guy, except for his face. He was the type of guy you mostly see in cliche movies. He was handsome, a basketball player(he was the captain ball), smart, most of the girls liked him(he was a total player,ew), even the prettiest girl in our school likes him. I really thought I loved him. But during our Junior-Senior Prom, he was my last dance and we danced for like 8 mins because he was my friend, I just looked at him, but I felt nothing special. I just felt that oh silly what are you going to do with someone who only have such a pretty face that will only waste your time? He was just like any other handsome guy in the world, but it only reaches there, nothing was special about him. I'm already sick of looking at his face, and there's nothing to like about him anymore. It was just lust. He loves anime, but not everyone who likes anime is a nice guy, you know. He loved playing with people's feelings. He would brag about the girls he chats with to his friends. I asked some of his friends about him, and they told me that he was a total d-bag. I'm not perfect myself,but still. From the beginning I already became a d-bag towards him because I trust my instincts that this guy was just pure bull, but I'm a teen and he was like the first guy who would talk to me like that and would talk to me up to midnight. I was foolish, but I've already learned my lesson. Anyway, back to the topic. Hehe. Love for me is something you just can't express into words. There are so many feelings that comes with love happiness, sadness, etc. Maybe you can't describe it, but you know yourself when you are in love. Love is something you feel deep inside your true self(lol). It's like when you stare at this person, you know that you would want to be with him/her forever. You treasure this person, and you wouldn't ever want to let him/her go. You can share everything with this person, and you wouldn't be afraid because you know he/she loves you for everything no matter what. He accepts you just the way you are, It's truly being comfortable with someone without being VERY VERY conscious. If I would ever experience true love with someone, I would truly make the most of it. I would love him so tenderly and I would gladly show my softest side. Love is totally up to people. Some people believe that even if you stay still, love will just come to you. Oh really? Even if you wouldn't do anything? Seriously? Will Destiny itself tell the girl that you like her? Haha. My ideal "lover" is someone who accepts me the way I am; my faults, my past, and everything. Someone who doesn't expect much from me. Someone who would love and treasure me truly. I want him to love me much more than I love him(if that's possible, although it's rare to find a guy like that if it isn't lust that he feels.)Truly, I want him to make me feel like I'm the only girl in the world(except for his mom and family ofcourse.lol) But if you're asking for qualities, Ryuuji from Toradora is the example! A responsible person that you can be comfortable with. You have no doubts because you trust each other. I DON'T LIKE PLAYERS AND GUYS WHO DO DRUGS AND DRUNKARDS. Your life will be totally miserable if you marry someone irresponsible like that, because most of the time, those types of people are only moved by pure lust and are a-holes. I don't like guys who are like those in movies who are badass on the outside but good on the inside, seriously, good luck in finding that guy! I've done a little analysis, and guys like that are most of the time players, and they would only like you if you're beautiful on the outside! They only care about their reputation, and are usually selfish. A perfect relationship for me is where two people help each other fix their faults(if they can), and accept each other. They may have fights, but those fights only make their relationship stronger. Comfortable with each other, and understand each other's needs. The most important thing in a relationship is ofcourse respect,love and trust. Respect; in order to love someone, you must respect each other first. Love; this is the foundation of a relationship, some relationships exist without love but they only last for a while. Love is important because this may affect your happiness and sadness. Trust; I'd rather be alone than be with someone who fills me with doubts. I'd give up everything if it was TRUE LOVE(that is if I'm already an adult), except for my religion. I believe that my God is the only one that I should worship and believe in. As a teenager, I would rather think about love and analyze it more, than engage in a unhealthy relationship. I am already happy that I could see true love around me. I just tell myself that true love will always be worth the wait. I've come to realize that I wouldn't want to waste my time anymore. But sometimes, I've also come to think that spending your whole life with just one relationship, must be boring, eh? I really don't know. Maybe you could at least have a few relationships, and try. I don't know. Well, at least I'm sure that I don't want to be in a relationship at the moment because I'm still 15 and I don't want to enter a relationship that will only make me sad most of the time( but really, I've done nothing these summer break but to go to restaurants by myself and find something to eat!) Arigatou gozaimasu!

63 Name: YITMAS : 2014-07-12 20:10 ID:Ba/hqyfJ [Del]

Ah, so this is where the Love thread is, or so to speak.

The replies here are quite interesting. Like >>62 up there, writin' a whole essay! I love it.
I want to know if there's a difference between love, true love, and falling in love. If lust factors in the equation? Does one person's perspective on love vary from the experiences they've been through, as well as the experiences they haven't? Obviously, there is no right or wrong answer. As to me, I am a realist with crude opinions, more or less.

- What is your philosophy on Love?
- What does the term "Love" mean to you?

I'm gonna answer these 2 here.
This is what 15 year ol' hopeless romantic me wrote awhile back, "Love is fragile and delicate. It does not revolve around lust, infatuation, obsession, nor comfort. It is something that withstands all tests of time if it is true. It goes beyond pheromones and conscious feelings. It is a subconscious, magnetic attraction that cannot be broken by any force in this universe. But also at the same time, that attraction can only be formed if both beings implicitly know every excruciating detail about the other. Therefore, if true love exists, it creates absolute trust. Love and trust are truly one and the same in this sense. The only way love can be destroyed is if one or both beings are revealed to be something different than they were perceived to be. So if the trust is broken, the mind and heart question the reality of the love, and therefore disappears."

It's funny how views on this concept can alter along the years. All in all, that tells me that love is definitely indefinite; shapeless. The aspect of it is always changing, always in action; you'll end up questioning it or you'll make it the center of your life, believing that is the true meaning of life itself. Even both, for that matter. There will always be those in love, in lust, in hate, in neutral, or in "friend-zoned." Each with an unrefined picture of love until you've gone through all of that, but yet, it'll always be perfectly imperfect.

If I were to generalize the basics of love?
To know the person enough so you notice all their flaws; mistakes they've made and be willing to accept it all. Every single one of us has a story composed of these events, good and bad. You'll realize they are full of problems and mishaps, but it's not something to keep away from. Instead, be a friend, be there for them, be with them, and you'll notice you've accepted them as a human being. If you find someone who treats you exactly how you want them to treat you, is that love to you? Nah, there is no one that is gonna treat you how you want except yourself. Everyone are themselves and you are you, it’s how it works. You have to come to sense that we can and will be broken and damaged at some point in our existence. Might not be exactly fond of that, but hey, accept it, embrace it, you'll learn to live with it. And of course, everyone wants to have a different career, therefore, you'll end up applying various colleges or maybe you are at different years and the futures you have in mind contrast. Although, if you guys can accept one another’s views, combining both prospects it could become something extraordinary, and that’s the beauty of it. Accepting their past, present, and future? First steps of obtaining the idea of love.

- Is finding Love really up to us? What's your view on destiny?

See, I absolutely detest the word 'destiny'. We as a human species are given the power of free will. It is why we can do the things that we do. Setting yourself with a destination limits you to the point where you're basically walking in line with the rest of the idiots who think, "oh, yup that's him/her, we're meant to be together, even though, I haven't said a word to them, but it's already done, we're 'destined'." You, my friend, need to break out of your chains and step onto the plate. Nothing is gonna happen if you're sitting down twiddling your thumbs, hoping some miracle will be bestowed upon you. No. Get back to reality, you fool. You want something, you take it. Here's the thing, I do believe in fate. Most confuse those two in being the same thing, where in actuality, its not. Destiny is what I explained earlier; a destination. Fate, on the other hand, is an event where something specific happened for a reason. For example, y'all started talking because that one time you knocked down his/her books by accident in the hallway. Or that one time, you guys exchanged numbers because it was pouring rain, both forgot/didn't have your umbrella, so you had to wait at that bench with the only cover. That, is fate; no destined crap in mix, just something that utterly happened out of the blue and bam! You play it cool, talk, exchange numbers, go on a date, first kiss, you get it in, meet the parents, marriage, kids, watch 'em grow, and die. BA-DA-BEEM-BA-DA-BOOM. Haha, the short version of it. YOU make your own destiny, by putting faith among your fate.

- What is your ideal "Lover"?

Ideal. Anyone should be an ideal lover. But that doesn't seem to be the case, does it? Although, it could be the person right next you, or someone half way around the world, you just don't know it yet. I can't quite answer this question, because I don't know, myself. I do have these interests, but not something I'd desire into a "lover." So, skip!

64 Name: YITMAS : 2014-07-12 20:11 ID:Ba/hqyfJ [Del]

Pt. 2..

- What is the perfect relationship?

Ah, you mean what is perfect to "you." 'Cause the perfect relationship everyone wants? Nonexistent. Like I said before, everyone are themselves, you are you. No relationship forms are superlative. It's a fantasy. Harsh, but true. Even if there was such a thing, wouldn't that be so mediocre? Never have a fight? How would you two learn to fix and build a stronger bond, a foundation to where the relationship leads to? You two tell each other everything and I mean everything; those deep dark secrets, no lies, not even white lies? Damn. Yeah, it may be honest, but is that really beneficial? Given that we're all liars here? There are so many imperfections with a 'perfect' relationship. Yes, I tend to use those terms quite often. Shush. I always think it's better to have a strong relationship that includes the arguments, the fights, some lies, some secrets because that to me, offers this advantage where you both know how to solve problems together. Know what ticks them off and what does not, know things about them you should and shouldn't; vice versa and etc. I'm also going to skip the part where I explain what a perfect relationship to me is. I wouldn't know.

- What's important in a relationship?

I'd like to think a relationship is based on 3 keys elements: Emotional, sexual, and logical. Without all three, the relationship will fail. And the "glue" that holds them together is trust. Self-explanatory really; emotional + sexual = hopeless romantic, sexual + logical = superficial(friends w/ benefits), emotional + logical = friend-zoned. The emotions, create this connection to a state of mind and soul; it brings the basis of love. It gives the opportunity to speak on another level. Sex; the intimacy between us beings, the physical link that strips off the insecurities, letting your lusty appetites run wild. And logic..the tricky one. The right time and place. Difficult, because it's hard to determine where you stand. Age, distance, religion, or how the piss-poor society would view it. Whether or not you believe, there are hateful people that will look down upon on basically..everyone. Those who are against varied races, homosexuality, bisexuality, transsexualism, and so much more. I am devastated that there are people with these opinions, but more importantly, I'm fucking disgusted by them. I cannot even fathom how their mindset works. I do know in the first place they were raised wrong; in a phobic environment, but even that is no excuse. Hell, my parents were basically racist. They didn't want me dating anyone other than Asian. But that didn't stop me. I kept dating/seeing people of all colors, sizes, and shapes until I got them to shut the fuck up and open their eyes.
Sorry, got off topic. LOGIC. You have to decide if it'll work between y'all by whatever obstacle stands in the way. If it can, great. If not, it's okay, don't worry about it. "The world isn't as cruel as you make it out to be." - Celty-san.

- What would you give up for Love?

Can't say. Or preferably..not much. I live a world surrounded by lust. The minute I give in to a feeling, it causes these complications that I don't want to deal with. Yes, I am afraid. Although, I think that's okay because I've accepted it and moved on. I live it quite simple; I'm young with a long, long life. Why would I have to rush to find this love every chance I get? Is it wrong of me to want to experience as much as I can first? To journey through all places, to see all people, and all the curiosities, mysteries and puzzles they provide. Just because I postponed love to the side, does not mean my life isn't exciting, spontaneous, or even provocative, for your concern. ;)

Oh good, that was the last question.

Apologies for my little rant..

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68 Name: Ngeow : 2014-07-13 10:51 ID:rhlICNxA [Del]

>>63 Just felt like venting out because I've never really told anyone about what I truly felt before. Hahahaha. I really should improve my vocabulary. Nevertheless, I don't regret liking that bstard, it taught me A LOT OF LESSONS. Hahahaha. And sorry for ranting, I wrote what I felt because we're all on anonymous, anyway. I hope to learn more a lot from life ^ ^ #Ireallyhatemyself #ahahaha

69 Name: Note !j.dNMdxAQo : 2014-07-13 15:27 ID:AmCZvQ+H [Del]

To me love is something that will only happen once, maybe twice, in life. It's something that once it finally happens you will hold pn to that person and never let go no matter what. And many people will fall for someone for a time but personally to me that's not true love. I believe that love is forever and no matter who that person is/were or whatever they may have done, or the other way around about you, that you will always be there for each other and will do anything you can just to make the other happy.
Thanks for your time - Note.

70 Name: YITMAS : 2014-07-14 00:31 ID:Ba/hqyfJ [Del]

>>68 Toradora!<3
No, no, by all means let it all out; let the world know! I love when people write a bunch. Keeps me intrigued.
Your vocabulary is fine! At least it's not like those who use abbreviations, symbols, and all that illiteracy.

I've definitely ranted a tad in mine. BUT WHO CARES. And yes, that guy does sound a bit of dick, although, I'm not one to talk. In high school, I'd say I was the douche-bag, with the stereotypical 'bad' reputation.

Truth is, there is no Prince Charming out there. It's our human nature to be flawed. But that doesn't necessarily indicate there isn't room for change, right? Maybe not now, but even the bastard you're talkin' about has the ability to step his game up; better himself, he's young, and eventually he'll learn a lesson or two. And that goes for everyone, in fact, I'm willing to bet 3 years from now, you'll learn a lot more from the experiences you'll go through. Plus, you won't find the best without enduring the worst, but it'll be okay, I promise. Those obstacles, the bumps along the road are just stepping stones so the next time you encounter them, you'll figure out how to refrain from it; and the pain..hurts a little less. So love lots and go get 'em, gurl!

- YITMAS

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72 Name: Neko-tama!EQ2c47V0Ps : 2014-07-14 15:15 ID:F4guGD7f [Del]

Awws! You guys brought this thread back! Well it's nice to know there still are some romantic philosophers out there! ;3
I'm really glad though :'3 I love reading all the things you guys write! Keep 'me coming!

This is so nostalgic for me... The last time that I actually added to my philosophy I was still in love, now I'm not, Except for those lingering feelings towards an idea. I do miss him a lot though, given the chance I'd probably do it all over again anyway. He was perfectly imperfect and I was a different person, I guess I changed somewhere along the line. Adding this into my philosophy I guess I'd say that love doesn't always conform as both parties change.
My ideals are a little messy now as I'm mostly melancholic about the idea of love. Well I guess I have some writing to do then. :3

Time to answer my own questions!

- What is your philosophy on Love?
Well past Neko, my thoughts are a little jumbled at the moment so I'll have to get back to you!

- What does the term "Love" mean to you?
'Love' as interpreted by science is a complex combination of hormones, neurotransmitters, and a lot more brain chemistry that I don't understand. Now to most humans since times like the renaissance, it's an overly romanticized euphoria of emotions, the most powerful force, "the pinnacle of all human emotion" as Akemi Homura put it. To me it is a combination of the two. I can recognize the logical and scientific form of love but I've also been in love so I understand why it's continued to be subjected to constant romanticization. To me it's something that surpasses logic and sanity, something that makes little sense but is worth the gamble, worth the risk.

- Is finding Love really up to us? What's your view on destiny?
Give and take, give and take. When I fell in love before it felt so, so wonderfully coincidental that it made little sense to me, it was so random it just had to be fate. Now I understand that fate does have something to do with finding love but the things that I do and the goals I set for myself also play into the equation. I can't just sit here expecting Prince Charming to come knock on my door and take me to a pretty pink castle where everything is perfect. I have to go out there and allow myself to be vulnerable enough for fate to do it's thing. Before I was totally okay with being vulnerable, now I'm just terrified of being hurt or used. Maybe one day I'll meet someone and I'm open to the idea but I guess I'm just scared, I guess I have a bit of a shell to break through.


- What is your ideal "Lover"?
Hmm, well past Neko I know you knew the answer to that, he really was perfect but I guess some things aren't meant to be, well maybe next time. Now I don't think my ideal of a perfect partner has changed much, don't get me wrong though, I'm not looking for another version of 'him'. If I had to put it into words I'd say someone who I can't lie to. Someone that can see through the bullshit, see through my facade. Make me feel better when I'm anxious, make me smile and laugh, teases me and doesn't get too mad when I tease them, argue and rant with me, someone who I can have conversations with for hours. Someone who's nice to me and cares about me, someone who I can be honest with and capable of loving. Now I'm not at all perfect and I'm kind of fond of imperfection, I'm pretty cynical too so I'm fond of that too, just not to the point of pessimism, I'm an optimist. Common interests are important too, or at least the understanding as to why I like the things that I like. But also someone who doesn't want to change me or criticizes me for liking coffee or the odd piece of cake.

- What's important in a relationship?
Trust and understanding, communication.

- What would you give up for Love?
I'm a yandere so... More than most people would but I guess it just depends, I can be a coward sometimes...

I guess that's everything then X3

73 Name: Chaos !.kFTmDPw2k : 2014-07-14 17:05 ID:+a3fqqXk [Del]

Love? The only definition of love that I can see is being willing to put another before yourself, whether it is simply where to eat or a life or death situation.

74 Name: Haru : 2014-07-14 23:20 ID:qI1mZyle [Del]

I think love is just people who feel as if they need something more in life. People who believe in something made up so that don't have to deal with being alone.

75 Name: Lawli !kE7nekQeNY : 2014-07-15 01:01 ID:DxY2uwDW [Del]

Ah, love... Love is a very strange thing to me, seeing as how I'm struggling with my sexuality already. But I'll tell you what I think.

I love every living thing on this planet, but I don't like them all, haha. I homestly just want everyone to live safely and happily. I love every single dollar and every one of my followers on tumblr and every single person in my school, regardless if I think they latter are a bunch of dicks most of the time. I can't stand to be around them, but I hope they find happiness.

Love means caring for someone. Wanting to make sure that that person is healthy and happy, even if that means that you aren't there with them. Love is special and though it may just be a chemical reaction in the brain, it's powerful and beautiful when it is cultivated carefully and gently and correctly.

My ideal lover/relationship would be someone that I can take care of, but who also wants to take care of me. Someone who can comfort me, but not coddle me. They should be able to tell me what I need to hear, regardless of whether or not I may want to hear it. But we'd always take care of each other and we'd always be there for hugs and dumb coffee dates when we needed it most.

For love, I would give love up. That sounds kind of dumb when I say it like that, but I mean that I would give that person up if it meant their happiness. If I truly loved someone, but they loved someone else or they didn't want to be with me, I would let them go. Because you can't force someone to love you, and if you try, you'll only make both of you miserable. And if you love them, you'll put their happiness first.

And that's Lawli getting deep on your ass. I'll be here all night.

76 Name: Neko-tama!EQ2c47V0Ps : 2014-07-15 12:47 ID:F4guGD7f [Del]

>>75 you are such a kind person Lawli! Thank you for sharing your wonderful thoughts :3

77 Name: Mawaru : 2014-07-15 13:09 ID:FASnNylw [Del]

It's something you only can achieve in a special state of mind. With the right enviroment, scent, light, ect, love will be felt and you mind will be focused. It's the strongest between two humans but can be felt towards an object as well. Sometimes our brain fool us and tell us that we're in love when we're not. I think that is because we focus on one person or object so much that we think we love them.
This is mainly an observation.

Love is a strange thing to me, but nothing I hate. I don't understand what good will come from focusing one on person or thing. You have to push other things away to make space for the love. Those "other things" can be everything from a person to a hooby. If you don't make enough space you'll lose the love and must wait for it to return. I don't see the fun in that.

Destiny isn't anything I know exist. But if it does I think we must shape it ourselves. Love isn't necessarily something that is in everyones destiny. Some people are not in search for a hinder such as love since it can make you forget your goal.

I guess someone who is simular to me would be interesting to have around. I've heard that the oposite of yourself is the one you usualy get along best with. But, to speak with someone who shares my thoughts is something I would love to experience.

A calm one, with a twist of teasing. I'm actually quick with teasing comments and love mean humour, even if it doesn't appear so right now. Most important is to share thoughts with eachother, even if they can be stupid. I'm not sure what I'll enjoy in a relationship, but this will do for now.

78 Name: Lawli !kE7nekQeNY : 2014-07-15 13:37 ID:Rl+97m1T [Del]

>>76 ;w; Aw, thank you, Neko! You seem lovely as well!! <3

79 Name: park hye jin : 2014-07-15 21:19 ID:mU2LfFvm [Del]

Love is something I cant find but see it all the time. I always like to see happy couples going in and out of my store. its sad sometimes cause I get lonely but im working on getting a guy or gal to love me. I believe it is up to us to find love god has given us free will. My ideal lover is someone I can lean on and have great conversation with and be happy around and yes arguing is going to happen but work through it and see the next day with him or her.

80 Name: Celestial Envoy : 2014-07-16 14:22 ID:1cDvRy5o [Del]

So I meet a girl and I asked her to the club some time and she said she might be free this weekend. Now im like "omg omg what should I do!? When do we meet, what one do I take her to, will she be ok with it"? And then I realize "wait, this is not the first time i've done this; why am I so nervis?" This girl for some reason makes me feel different, its odd and kinda confusing. Im an adult and I have never been in love befor, never in my life did I care about a woman enough to stay with her. I think this, this girl can show me what it is to be in love. I got my fingers crossed.

81 Name: SilentlySinging : 2014-07-17 01:29 ID:o1ZdCbSr [Del]

Love is when you would do anything for a person and they would do the same for you. I believe you have to put yourself out there and find it. If you try, you will. I think everyone is loveable in their own way and there's someone for everyone. My ideal "lover" is someone who is loyal, sweet, and can make me laugh. One of those people with a heart of gold. I have searched for a long time, and I think I just might've found him... :) fingers crossed and hopes high!