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Dog Training (12)

1 Name: Ariana123 : 2012-09-09 13:19 ID:HUxwcWGz (Image: 960x720 jpg, 257 kb) [Del]

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Okay, I know this is more something for the Dog Whisperer to ask help for, but I'm Canadian and he never gets to all his viewer's questioins. And I don't know of anyone else who can help when my family's tight on money...

See, the problem is his obedience. And he just won't learn. He's an 8mth old collie and we can't teach him not to bark at any and every person or dog that passes by when he's outside. And he's pretty loud. He's got a pretty big bark.
Another problem is that he's very greedy. Whenever someone has food (even a single chip) he thinks that he absolutely needs it and he's very persistant.
We're trying as hard as we can, but if we can't fix it, we have to get rid of him. He's my dog, and I'm emotionally unstable. If we get rid of him... I can't really say... But I might end up depressed. I joined the Dollars because it helps me. But my dog helps me too.
Once again, I realize this is for some kind of dog trainer, but that's hard to find where I am. So I thought I'd turn to you guys.
What I need is advice on what to do to train him. If you guys can give me ANY help, I would greatly appreciate it! ^-^

2 Name: Sleepology !4a6Vun8zuw : 2012-09-09 13:26 ID:lI+s2dVq [Del]

Step 1. Google.
Step 2. Get one of those shock collars or a device that emits a high pitched noise.
Step 3. Dont drop shit n he will get the idea that its not gonna happen.

3 Name: Ariana123 : 2012-09-09 13:31 ID:HUxwcWGz [Del]

1. Google isn't always the answer
2. Nothing to shop online with
3. Doesn't matter if we drop it or not, if he sees it he wants it no questions asked. And he will beg and bug until he either gets it or we finish. We often have to put him outside while we eat 'cause we don't know what else to do and he ends up scratching at the door. He ruined th screen we had on it and we can't put another one on because of it.

Anyone else please? -.-

4 Name: Black!BLACKFJv1Q : 2012-09-09 14:28 ID:b/qzlPna [Del]

Often neighbors who have pets will have shock collars, but eventually the animals outgrow the need for them. Check around your neighborhood for people who don't need shock collars any more (or a garage sale, always good to check those) to borrow/ use. Invest in a kennel of some sorts to put him in while eating. It's important to emphasize that he needs to stay in one particular place while you (the master of the house or otherwise) is eating. This is by no need a quick process, but it usually works. You have to be sure to enforce this, however, otherwise he will quickly unlearn it.
My dog manages to go to her kennel each time I eat anything, regardless of me telling her or not. Make sure that they know when to stay in the kennel/ designated space, and when it's ok to come back.
Best of luck.

5 Name: Ariana123 : 2012-09-09 14:52 ID:HUxwcWGz [Del]

>>4 Well, for the designated place thing, we try to put him out at meal times everyday, but he tries to insist on getting back in when he knows there's food. And so he resorts to more barking.

Thanks for the advice though, I'll put up posters around my neighborhood asking if they can help me out by giving me their old shock collars if they don't need them anymore. I just hop there are owners in the area who've needed them for larger breeds than the other dogs i've seen in the area... I think my dog may be the biggest in my area and he's only 8mths... heheh *.*"

6 Name: BarabiSama!!C8QPa1Mt : 2012-09-09 22:05 ID:9kcSgnTK [Del]

DON'T YELL AT IT. At all. If you've yelled at it before, shut the fuck up and don't raise your voice at it again. Screaming at dogs doesn't help anything. It only confuses and agitates them.

Dogs are going to bark no matter what. Some dogs are louder than others. Some dogs bark more than others. A good way to get a dog to bark less is to take it on a lot of walks. Let it explore both outside and inside entirely. When a dog understand the situation better, it's less likely to bark because it's not worried. If you have a plexi-glass storm door in front of your normal door, latch it and leave the normal door open. Let your dog look outside and see who is there. Keep the windows open. You want him to be as used to people, cars, bikes, et cetera as possible.

Another good method is to ignore him when he's barking. Don't ignore him completely, but sort of give him the cold shoulder. Snuggle him lots when he's quiet, and when he barks, just periodically pet him.

Regarding commands, they're not that difficult. It just takes persistence. You should mix vocal, visual, and physical commands. If you want him to sit, don't just say, "sit." Say that, point down, and gently push his butt down. You can either reward him with pets or treats. NEVER reward a dog with a full treat. Break it up into small pieces or give him scraps of kibble or leftovers.

Never skip around between commands. If you're going to practice Sit, JUST practice Sit. Don't practice Sit and Lay in the same training session. At the start, at least. Later on you can, but when you're first training him, it's best to not mix them. You want each one to soak in individually.

Also, if he starts to do a command and then stops when you whip the treat out, do NOT reward him. The first few times, you can reward him, but after that, do not. Also, try to not keep the treat out while you're saying the commands; take the treat out once he completes the command.

Regarding begging, DO NOT GIVE HIM TABLE SCRAPS OR ANY SORT OF HUMAN FOOD OUTSIDE OF TRAINING OR DINNER. Set up two times to feed him - in the morning and in the evening. During that time, you can (and should) mix leftovers or a small bit of liver in with his food. However, outside of those times, you should never feed him. If you want to give him your pizza crust, save it on the side and put it in his next meal.

This will get him adjusted to eating at specific times and will decrease his incessant need for food.

When you're eating, never lock him out of the room. If he tries to climb on you or take your food, gently grab him at the back base of his neck and say, "No." Continue doing it whenever it's necessary.

The second you give him extra food or table scraps is the second his training starts to break down.

Make sure he's comfortable looking you in the eye. Staring contests are a great way to get your dog to understand that you're a lot bigger than he is. When you're done, though, be sure to get down on the floor and play with him. You want to be a respected friend to your dog - not a pack leader. If you're a pack leader, they're just going to try to overtake the house every time you're away. Unless you can make everyone in the house a pack leader, it's best to let the dog think he's the leader consciously yet be aware that he isn't subconsciously.

It's weird, but it'll make sense eventually.

And in regards to your family, THEY HAVE ISSUES. He's eight months old and they already want to get rid of him for behavioral problems? HE'S A PUPPY, FOR FUCK'S SAKE. That's just wrong ._.

7 Name: BarabiSama!!C8QPa1Mt : 2012-09-09 22:08 ID:9kcSgnTK [Del]

Another thing, don't use his name to scold him. His name should be a sign that he has done good - not bad. Make sure he understands what, "No," means be only using it when you're disciplining him.

I'm not a dog trainer, but I've had (and have) dogs with similar issues :\ These are just things I've picked up thusfar.

8 Name: Ariana123 !sFB60FcYjs : 2012-09-10 07:56 ID:HUxwcWGz [Del]

>>6 I know about the yelling thing. We're not yelling at him. How can you yell at such a cute baby anyways? X3
As for the sit thing, I already have that down. I had that right from the getgo. And we're working on laydown.
Next, the begging at the dinner table one sounds rather good, so I'll try that later today.
As for having him look me in the eye, he sees me as his mother, and he's a big baby, so I think we're good in that sense.
And my family? My two grandparents are 80. Other than them, it's just me and my sister. I know we have a few issues, but NOONE insults my family, do you understand?! I really appreciate the advice and all, but please don't say things like that when you don't understand the situation at hand.

and >>7 I've never heard that one before. I'll try and remember that one. Thanks! XD

9 Name: BarabiSama!!C8QPa1Mt : 2012-09-10 13:31 ID:9kcSgnTK [Del]

>>8 Just my opinion :l I don't see how you they're already thinking of getting rid of him for this when he's still a puppy.

And no problem ;O Good luck~

10 Name: BarabiSama!!C8QPa1Mt : 2012-09-10 13:39 ID:9kcSgnTK [Del]

In addition to saying No, my mom suggested you get an empty coffee can and put change in it. When you need to say No, you can also shake the can to enforce it a bit better. It's a little loud, though, so it may or may not make him nervous at first. However, it should help him understand what No means a lot quicker. (Or so she says. I haven't tried it, but she has tried it with dogs before my time and says that it worked well.)

11 Name: Crisis !JjfHYEcdHQ : 2012-09-10 16:04 ID:TU1bldLs [Del]

>>10 This works best when the dog is a puppy. Mothers make a sharp bark to essentially tell their puppies "no". The change in a can or jar imitates this effect.

12 Name: Ariana123 !9tSxG86EQQ : 2012-09-10 18:32 ID:HUxwcWGz [Del]

That's a really interesting concept. Maybe I'll try this one out too, just to try. If it works, I'll keep it going.