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My suicidal best friend (13)

1 Name: Ollo : 2012-09-02 20:06 ID:ELbYAZEY [Del]

So, from the title, you can probably guess what this is about...
One of my best friends has trouble with her home life, her parents are separated, her dad pushes her too much and her mother is just plain horrible, often calling her fat and blaming her for any failed relationships.
Recently, my friend has been telling me that she has suicidal thoughts, that no one would care if she died and she often posts on twitter things like "Anyone know the best way to kill yourself just using the things in your bedroom?"
I've tried to help her, I listen to her problems and tell her to hang on, that she has good friends who care deeply for her. However, she doesn't believe me and every time I try to cheer her up she says something like "You do realise you are just pissing me off even more."
Recently, I've tried showing her your stories to show that other people have had worse lives but have gotten through it, that life gets better. However, she then responded to that by saying "Please stop posting this crap, I'm not in the mood."
I know she's going through a hard time..but I swear if she keeps saying things like that when I'm trying to help, I'll end up biting her head off. Which won't be good, considering she's already suicidal.
So, what should I do? I want to help her, show her that people do care and get her back to her old, cheerful self. But every time I try she throws it back in my face...any advice?
Thanks in advance.

2 Name: anubis !AnUBiS6/LQ : 2012-09-02 20:11 ID:sSHY4vMl [Del]

I've tried talking to suicidal people before. I talked on the phone with my roommate's boyfriend the day after he attempted suicide. Try to explain how much it would hurt if she killed herself. Try to tell her how much of a gaping hole it would leave. She'll probably say that you aren't taking her feelings into account. Immediately ask her how she feels. Get her to talk about it. Get your other friends to talk to her about it.

When she says that you're "pissing her off even more" then tell her that you're tired of her always getting down on everything. Tell her you're just trying to help and you're worried and whatnot. Don't try to show her things could be worse, show her things get better.

3 Name: Black!BLACKFJv1Q : 2012-09-02 22:05 ID:b/qzlPna [Del]

>>1
There are two types of suicidal people.

The first is one who is serious about committing suicide, the one who does it without a second thought without telling anyone. These are the people who are really in trouble, who need help as soon as possible.

Then there's the second group, which your friend fits into. This group is the section of people who are really more into it for the attention. This doesn't mean that they AREN'T suicidal, rather, that they want people to pay attention to them and help them out of the rut they think they're in. These are the people who always tell someone they're going to do it, when they usually come up short. These are the people who will post their suicidal thoughts on facebook or twitter.

Luckily that means that she's in the group that doesn't really want to commit suicide, you've got a better chance at making sure she doesn't do anything irrational. Now, from here, there's two main options to take. Keep in mind that there's always alternatives.

1) Give her the attention she needs. Start giving her the attention she wants, trying to make sure she feels needed. A good way to do this would be to give her some small gift, and go with her outdoors and do things in the city. Perhaps even a theme park, or a simple walk in a park.

2) Now, this is by far the more aggressive method, but can be effective if the person is isn't really suicidal, and is mostly in it for the attention.
Snap her out of it.
I've seen people who've had their friends murdered on holidays as a child, and they've still made it out ok. There's people who live off nothing but what makes it to trash cans, and still manage to get by. If she thinks she's got it bad, she's nowhere close. Keep in mind when walking through the city you could show her examples of this. Basically the idea is to show her what she should be grateful for.

Pick an option, put your own spin on it, and give it a shot. Best of luck, OP.

4 Name: Ollo : 2012-09-03 05:07 ID:ELbYAZEY [Del]

>>2 Thanks, I'll keep trying to talk to her~

>>3 Hmmm, well I've managed to get her to meet up with me today so that's a start ^_^
I'm not too sure if option 2 would work as she isn't the most....sympathetic person. Especially when she's full of self pity like this.
But thanks a lot, I think your advice can really help~

5 Name: Black!BLACKFJv1Q : 2012-09-03 10:03 ID:b/qzlPna [Del]

>>4
Hope for the best, OP. Suicidals can be a finicky bunch.

6 Name: Ollo : 2012-09-03 12:24 ID:ELbYAZEY [Del]

>>5 Met up with her today and other than one or two comments, she was really cheerful! Mainly because she spent the entire time embarrassing me -__-"
Haha XD

7 Name: Yuki : 2012-09-03 13:43 ID:qxYMMvFo [Del]

You said that she feels like no one will miss her if she died. Won't you?

8 Name: Ollo : 2012-09-03 15:20 ID:ELbYAZEY [Del]

>>7 Of course I would, but she doesn't believe me when I tell her so.

9 Name: Sid : 2012-09-03 15:32 ID:bDwMpw1z [Del]

When I was suicidal, along with my best friend, we didn't fluant it. I never tried, but he attempted suicide at least 3 times. I never knew about this until he got over his depression. When I was suicidal I didn't do shit, and people who whined and said they were depressed pissed me off. When I was truly depressed and suicidal i didn't have the will to do anything. I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem she is too suicidal. The best thing for one to do is just to hang out normally with a depressed person, and don't bring up the topic, and if she keeps putting energy into whining then I think she just wants attention. Like I said, I could be wrong, but when I was suicidal I didn't let others know, since then it would just escalate into people wanting to pretend to help me. For me the best thing was to hang out with friends and skating. I just suggest to hang out with her like you always do, and don't always try to point out her depression, or suicidal tendencies.

10 Name: King Dude !zXqFpoplY6 : 2012-09-03 15:58 ID:v3MRZRtB [Del]

Only pussies commit suicide.

11 Name: Ollo : 2012-09-03 16:25 ID:ELbYAZEY [Del]

>>10 Not entirely true. But I do have a hatred for 12 year olds who want to commit suicide because they're 'ugly'.

>>9 To be honest I doubt she'd even chicken scratch, but I'd prefer not to risk it ^_^"
Thanks for all the advice :)

12 Name: Helel !9FPas2ywgY : 2012-09-04 08:21 ID:EsFhJy8I [Del]

"Because the world isn't as bad as you think." (I'm really sorry if I make reference to the anime.)

Well, the other thing to do is to make your friend guilty. She must have a soft spot somewhere. So don't attack her where she trained herself to be immune, such as consoling her. Attack her in her weakest point. What does she care most in this world? Attack her by telling that she will be leaving that behind. Even if it is something as simple as not being able to see trough the end of the long running manga that she is checking out or not being able to achieve something very important to her... I think you get the point/

13 Name: Zenon : 2012-09-04 22:31 ID:rbJPx0q7 [Del]

>>1 don't let her go through with it she is feeling like shit and wants to end it but it wont do a thing my parents died a year ago so now me and my little sister live in a foster home my sister is depressed and people love putting us down outside of the foster home i thought about it then realized it wouldn't do anything but hurt the ones that love me my sister would be more depressed and so would the other foster kids i was told that dying would solve nothing and that i can only live life in happiness look torwards a future of joy and love life and those in it that care your best friend shouldnt let anything get under her skin and whenever i felt my parents didnt understand me or things were my fault some times i listen to the last night by skillet everytime i did i realized someone would be there for me through bad times