Oh boy. It seems I have a lot to sift through here if I'm going to put together a coherent response. Going to start from the top. Will follow with a tl;dr, since this is largely unorganized.
>>1"I'm always being told that I'm good at everything I touch"
"I want to do everything, just because I know I can when I apply myself."
Humility is the first step to any sort of improvement. It prevents you from overestimating your own potential, or taking the kind words of others as ultimatums that reflect your true nature.
Someone told me I was funny one time. I didn't go to become a stand-up comedian. People tell me I'm good at programming. I know there are people far better. I could have accepted those statements and been complacent about my own ability to impress a select few people, but that wouldn't set me on a path to self-improvement, would it?
Know your strengths, yes, but also know your flaws. I'm going to state a fact: you aren't good at everything. You simply cannot be. You'll be lucky to be great at one thing, maybe a couple. Long-term goals aside, if you go into
anything with the mindset that you are naturally good at it, you are likely doomed to fail in some regard.
"...I've more recently found my interest in programming. The things I'm interested aren't the type of things you really need college for."
>things you don't need college for
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programmingI think you have a particular misunderstanding of the world, and a complete and total underestimation of what college does for you, exactly.
I'm going to be blunt with you, because I know you'd prefer that. You sound like a conceited child, and I know you aren't that much younger than me. So this is more than distressing. If you really think you could be self-taught in the same way a college student is taught by a certified professional
researcher in a university, then you are assuming that you have a greater capacity for research than the professors themselves.
And trust me, Barabi.
You don't.
I'm saying this for a fact, because if I tell you anything less, you're going to run with it and insist that you really are that much of a special snowflake, because that is the main flaw in what I've read so far.
But learning aside, let's go with the hypothetical that you do manage to teach yourself to the extent of a college graduate. You become the textbook example of an expert in the field of your choice, and then you apply for a job somewhere.
But oh look, someone else just applied alongside you. And they have a degree, and a resume detailing internships and other opportunities they took in college. But you're an expert, much better than this guy! And companies always hire based on skill rather than-
pff wait, no they don't.
I'm not saying college is mandatory. It certainly is not. But to shun it like it's a useless endeavor for someone who is apparently a
prodigy when it comes to self-teaching, you obviously know little of the modern world. Again, know your strengths, flaws, pros and cons. But don't make haughty excuses to make your cons seem inconsequential.
Next point.
"I got a psychology book once my fri
Okay actually from this point forward I'm not responding for anything that sounds like special snowflake self-pandering. There's not much that needs to be said that is constructive, I've already stated it's a glaring character flaw you're expressing.
Apologizing for not being modest doesn't count, either. It happened. But I'm glad you
were honest about your thoughts, because if anything we've identified a root of your problems.
>>7"IF I go to college, I want to go to one that isn't just part of the escalator system."
What does this even mean. Are you conspiracy theorizing?
Going to community college to knock out early courses is a legitimate tactic that people do to save time and money. You aren't going to find a college that doesn't have prerequisite courses. There's no special college for special people that goes "oh, you say you can learn this stuff? Have at it!"
The world runs off of credentials. And if you have none, don't expect it to be a simple task to just jump in and bypass the "ladder." The ladder is there to weed out the people who think like this - and if you really think you're qualified, you would be able to scale it with no problem anyway.
Also, where the hell do you get off being so rude to people trying to offer you suggestions? "don't be a cocky fuck"? Did nobody catch the irony?
>>8 And then you apologized again instead of just not being a cocky fuck in the first place. Apologies are less sincere when you're so consistent with your slipups.
>>9 This is probably the most insightful post on this whole thread, after reading it. I'm responding as I go, though, and from what I skimmed I don't think you took it to heart as well as you should have.
>>12Oh dear.
You didn't.
It's a sad day when you're less prepared for the real world than someone who is still years away from when it becomes necessary. See above for my spiel on why college is, in fact, important, and shouldn't be discounted just because you "know people who never went to college". If you're going to make statements like that, you should also keep in mind that it's also a fuckton harder unless you're lucky or simply the most hard-working motherfucker you know.
And you already said you're lazy and have trouble staying focused on one job, so don't even say you are that person.
"I'm not a naive little dumbfuck that doesn't know what's coming, and I would appreciate it if you wouldn't look at me in that light."
The way Kaori responded to you was not condescending. It was insightful and contained good advice. The way
I'm responding to you is condescending. Because you're being a bitch, and you need to understand this before you let it get out of hand any further.
You say you can learn life lessons like time management with a taxing schedule, or social things like making friends
and connections with people that are likely going to be your coworkers and/or bosses in the future, without college.
How do you know?
Will you?
Think about those things, with a pessimistic outlook if you have to, simply to counteract your self-assured arrogance. What is the worst case scenario here? I'm not going to answer that for you - if you're a good learner like you say you are, you should know. In fact, you should have considered it long ago as a genuine possibility. The fact you haven't yet is rather immature for someone so dead-set on their ability.
>>23"The reason I'm asking everybody what the point is? Because I want to know the answer to that."
>shoot down everyone who explains
>never settle on a reasonable answer
>act like nobody answered it already several times
:|
Barabi plz
>>28Based on this,
it seems to me the only
real reason you don't want to go to college is out of plain dumb rebellion. People always tell you it's a good idea, but because of that you don't want to do it. You come up with every reason not to, not considering for a moment that maybe there's a reason that so many people tell you to do it.
Maybe there is a reason people still pay the "ridiculous price" for college instead of just teaching themselves how to do things.Or maybe you're the exception
Maybe you're special
Maybe you're just a child prodigy and you don't need the same things that millions across the nation needed to start their careers
Or maybe that's dumb, and you should take a more objective approach to things from now on without regarding your own perceived ability. Because I'm starting to think more and more you're less skilled than you think you are, and I had no reason to think this before reading this thread.
>>31"I know [lots of HTML]"
...And I was right.
I hope for your sake that BBC is an actual programming language I just hadn't heard of, because the other things aren't. But this is a completely different gripe, so I'll cut it short.
There character limit has nothing to do with it shh.
