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North Korea : US and EU want to strengthens the sanction (26)

1 Name: Chrome : 2017-09-10 16:43 ID:HfkEnTil [Del]

Yesterday, the US ask the security counsil to take new sanction against the north korea. This happen because north korea do her sixth nuclear test without approval.

The main point of this topic is about one of the sanction who say that north korea expatriate will be returning into NK. I can't help but feel something is off so i would like your opinion about this.

Here's the source (in french) :https://www.google.fr/amp/www.europe1.fr/international/coree-du-nord-washington-impose-un-vote-lundi-a-lonu-sur-de-nouvelles-sanctions-3431531.amp

2 Name: Chronos!8NBuQ4l6uQ : 2017-09-10 21:36 ID:r85gTt0m [Del]

I haven't got any proof of what I'm saying, however, there is talk that NK is nothing more than a marionette for Russia, doing what Russia says.
It is considerable that the first missile got fired into the sea close to Japan shortly after a conversation between Trump and Abe about a possible withdrawal of the US troops from Okinawa. It seems like they would like to check out to what extent the US would support Japan in case of a threatening situation.
Furthermore NK is not as isolated as we all think. On the one side there is the connection with Russia based on rocket technology etc. NK obtained from Russia. On the other hand there are commercial relations (e.g. drug commerce) with China, Russia, India and other countries.
We can't really tell whether NK stands alone or is somehow connected to another country, pursuing a yet unknown purpose.

3 Name: VISION : 2017-09-10 21:50 ID:yyDSzITo [Del]

Amagedon is near!

4 Name: Chrome : 2017-09-11 04:14 ID:uhecUOwJ [Del]

That's kind of a conspiracy O.o

5 Name: Orphelbel : 2017-09-11 07:09 ID:uPE9Rzdq [Del]

What's with the Amagedon?

6 Name: VISION : 2017-09-11 20:57 ID:tsxuhuFg [Del]

Amagedon is near and humans wordl is going to burn for the new wordl shalt come.

7 Name: Curlzzzz !78aUaOiHOk : 2017-09-11 23:57 ID:srUYECA2 [Del]

No, no, he's a troll. What he writes is all bs.

8 Name: Lydia : 2017-09-12 01:56 ID:lsFVUdup [Del]

i already thought that >>2 is a troll because what he says sounds too unreal to be true.

9 Name: Chronos!8NBuQ4l6uQ : 2017-09-12 03:44 ID:r85gTt0m [Del]

>>8 You're an idiot, really.

10 Name: Chrome : 2017-09-12 06:10 ID:hKvoMLhJ [Del]

>>8 It can happen but its true that's unclear source so we need to be cautious.

11 Name: Curlzzzz !78aUaOiHOk : 2017-09-12 08:35 ID:iCSsUek9 [Del]

>>8 No, no, no! Not >>2 is the troll, dude! The Armageddon guy is the troll!
What >>2 said is actually very interesting.

>>2 Why do you think so? Sorry for the troll thing btw! Was my mistake!

12 Name: Chrome !hNfcFVIuPc : 2017-09-12 10:18 ID:stD1GuUX [Del]

>>11 He is funny so its okay with me x)

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14 Name: Tom : 2017-09-12 21:22 ID:Ar0QTQB1 [Del]

>>2 What a conspiracy, dude.

I don't understand French so sorry that I can't tell you what I think about the article. What I can tell you is that I see a threat in North Korea and in NK's nuclear weapons and I hope Trump will find a solution without war. Trump stationated missile-defense systems in South Korea and China is arming. The situation is very tense and I'm glad that North Korea isn't so close to Virginia.

15 Name: Ellena : 2017-09-12 23:46 ID:aZt59J1C [Del]

I think WW3 will come. The situation is very bad.

16 Name: Anonymous : 2017-09-13 02:45 ID:hozAzOiO [Del]

Without doubt the situation is very tense. The problem is that Russia, China and the US are Great Powers and can't absolutely trust each other. The new sanctions will change nothing, it will rather provoke North Korea.
I don't blieve in a third world war though, North Korea is threatening other countries for years now and I believe it will go on like this for the next generations.

17 Name: Kris : 2017-09-13 09:47 ID:XVqG3ejd [Del]

What if it doesn't go on for generations? What if it all ends now? For all we know, they could be planning to bomb the U.S so they can make it their own land. Anything is possible at this point.

18 Name: Aki : 2017-09-13 10:25 ID:u2qHe7h1 [Del]

Everyone knows that japan has access to attack north korea after the incident of ww2 ending, where they can only defend.

19 Name: Kaisuke !ymU.etZkik : 2017-09-13 11:37 ID:UVF6Tcjp [Del]

>>18 Some things have changed since then, like a few years ago as the Japanese where allowed to deploy troops in a supportive role, And I believe some part of the Japanese government are looking at changing their stance.

20 Name: NgoKhai !/WZimIIlxQ : 2017-09-14 19:41 ID:nsBVEpws [Del]

Well, rationally speaking, NK cannot bomb us. This is because by even attempting to bomb us, they would be met with a retaliation from the U.S. It's called mutually assured destruction.

North Korea's motive is to be recognized as a nuclear power, just as China did. This is also to preserve the regime, and Kim Jong Un himself.

Kim Jong Un knows what happens to dictators when they lose power, and it's anything but pleasant. By becoming a nuclear power, he will be able to protect himself from losing power.

But, we all know NK is a "spontaneous" country, so anything I say could be dead wrong. For all we know, I could be bombed 5 minutes after posting this from my tiny home in Oregon.

21 Name: Chronos!8NBuQ4l6uQ : 2017-09-14 21:33 ID:r85gTt0m [Del]

>>11 I don't think so. >>2 was simply a consideration based on some things I heard and read.
Still it is interesting that the first missile was fired into the ocean close to Japan shortly after the meeting of Abe and Trump and it is considerable that Russia doesn't want to strengthen the sanctions on NK.

>>17 Even if NK would bomb the US, NK wouldn't be able to reign the US - not without help. And once again the question is popping up whether NK is acting on its own or possibly connected with one of the greater nations also interested in conquering the US.
And here gets Japan into the game. Japan would be a perfect military base if you want to attack the US, not only for NK, but also for China. Moreover the American base in Okinawa is like a small threat for China because the US army sits directly in front of China's door.
Still, according to Trump, the US will defend Japan if NK drops a missile in Japan by attacking NK back, so it would be pretty senseless to attack Japan.

It's all kind of a childish game of power. I pretty much share the opinion of >>20 that Kim is trying to be recognised as a nuclear power.
The life of a dictator is pretty hard and if he fails he loses everything lol
In other words: He has to preserve his power and to pretend being the mightiest man in the world to prevent his people from rebelling or questioning his regime.

>>15 We already are within World War III, yet nobody said it out loud lol
Just kidding.

22 Name: VISION : 2017-09-14 22:40 ID:GwgMGLd6 [Del]

Because Amagedon is near and humans wordl is going to burn!

23 Name: Bluck : 2017-09-15 06:14 ID:qYSLHeZ3 [Del]

Sadly, N.K. is not the real deal. They are just the detonant, but China would allign with them quickly. Maybe even Russia, just because they can't allow U.S. to be in their door. At the same time U.S. can't allow N.K. to keep improving their weaponry.

If things keep going like this they will quickly find themselves in a point of no return.

24 Name: Chronos!8NBuQ4l6uQ : 2017-09-15 06:21 ID:r85gTt0m [Del]

>>23 Haven't we already reached this point?
Today NK fired the next missile over Japan as a response to the latest sanctions.

25 Name: Anonymous : 2017-09-15 07:05 ID:8G4ERyJZ [Del]

>>24 shut up troll!

26 Name: Bluck !HY/9akdPT6 : 2017-09-15 11:05 ID:qYSLHeZ3 [Del]

>>24 I guess it may be too late. Seems that there aren't any more diplomatic solutions left, honestly.