suicide bombing in Iraq leaves forty one dead and more then one hundred injured.
Iraqi officials say the death toll from a suicide bombing at a soccer stadium that was claimed by the Islamic State group has climbed to 41, with another 105 people wounded.

Security and public health officials provided the updated toll on Saturday.

The bombing took place Friday during a match in the small stadium in the city of Iskanderiyah, 50 kilometres from the capital, Baghdad. ISIS claimed the attack, saying it had targeted Shia militiamen.

A suicide bomber blew himself up on the soccer field as trophies were being presented after a local tournament.

The extremist group has lost ground in recent months in Iraq and Syria, but has struck back with a series of large attacks targeting civilians. ISIS claimed this week's attacks in Brussels, which killed 31 people

This is what you get when you mix desperate people with a religion of hate

>>1 Link to News report please?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/iraq-suicide-bombing-1.3508024

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>>2 It's absolutely not a religion of hate. Islam is the same as every other religion. Some minor groups are just giving the wrong interpretation.

>>6
Do forgive me if I sound rude, but I don't think they're "minor" groups.
in fact, my opinion is that every muslim is one group until the majority decides it's inconvenient and then they tell the rest of the world that the expelled groups not muslims.

>>6
"not a religion of hate"
Islam is a religion that encourages hate and death of it's enemies, you may say they are not true muslims but I tell you the ones that are moderate aren't the real muslims.
Even the "moderate could just be practicing taqiyya which is where it is permitted to lie to a non muslim to gain their trust.

You'll find Islam has a nice long history of violence that continues today
www.americanthinker.com/articles/2005/11/the_truth_about_islamic_crusad.html'

and b4
muh christian crusades
These were a response when islamic fighters invade Europe centuries before.
clashdaily.com/2014/11/crusades-direct-response-islams-bloodlust/

That image you are posting is clearly a picture made to twist Islam into this horrible cruel religion.
So you are here to tell me that millions of muslims are misunderstanding there religion? And this is not the act of a few extremists.
With that logic then KKK are true Christians and every other Christian is misunderstanding their own religion.
Taqiyya is lying to smooth relations. It is the belief in Islam while the truth is preferred if it will stir further conflict a lie would be preferred. It is usually used in the case where a muslim can lie to protect themselves in a case of danger. For example being threatened.
Islam is a religion of tolerance. "To you is your religion and me miine" (109:6) is a line from the quran. Most of the quran talk of peace. Yes there are chapter on war but which religion or country would not defend itself in the times of war. The stages to that are very rigorous as it is a final option and I feel my picture explains the conduct during war well enough.
Let's not be divided by people who have no purpose but political gain. There is no group without extremists. From the civil rights movement, to feminism, to religions. There are those who will act out of context to the group. These small individuals are always the loudest and so many assume the represent a whole group. Ignoring the thousands to millions of others who work and contribute to society.
For example, Ice Cube is muslim. Do you honestly think he is going to one day blow up a building?
Please let's fight these groups united and not allow their plan to divide us to succeed.

>>10
While I don't really like >>8 I gotta say something rude.
ARE YOU BLIND?
Tolerance is the one word I will never ever associate with Islam.
Did you read the news that thousands of people gathered in Pakistan to demand the execution of a christian woman accused of blasphemy?
Call it what you want but those 'small' individuals you mentioned are made up of millions.

>>10
"religion of tolerance"
Lmao
-Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
-Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."
-Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

Muh ice cube
What I call myself is a natural Muslim, because it's just me and God. You know, going to the mosque, the ritual and the tradition, it's just not in me to do. So I don't do it.
-Ice cube
Sure sounds like a regular moslim to me, oh wait...

Islam is a religion of conquest and hatred

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>>12 So is Ice cube also on a conquest of hatred?
Have either of you ever met Muslim before in your life? Have you ever tried entering a mosque? You see pretty sure on what the majority of muslims believe and what Islam is.
Did you see the picture I posted in my reply. Those are uncompromisable rules in Islam. That is only a few of them. So tell me how are these minority, you talk about define all Muslims when they don't follow the fundamentals. They are people who don't know their own religion and use it to reason their actions.

Also, Bad goy, those lines you used refer to a specific battle. Striking the hand is a common tactic in sword fighting. It enables a clear win and gives you enemy chance to surrender. This technique is well know and is the reason many swords have hilts that cover the hand. Cutting off the heads of your enemy is the quickest way to end a fight rather than stab them and let them suffer. There are many more verses about peace than there is about war. If you take any text out of context you can warp it to fit your agenda. A technique you show mastery of.

Christianity both have verses that are could be deemed violent ans barbaric.

"Every living substance that I have made will I destroy."
15:3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and utterly destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'”
“Samaria shall bear her guilt, because she has rebelled against her God; they shall fall by the sword, their little ones shall be dashed in pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open” (Hosea 13:16).

But I know Christianity is a religion of peace and harmony. That Jesus teaches:
11 The LORD gives strength to his people; the LORD blesses his people with peace.
14 Turn from evil and do good; seek peace and pursue it.
37 Consider the blameless, observe the upright; a future awaits those who seek peace.
And these are just in Psalm alone. I know Christianity teaches peace as does Islam, as does Judaism, as does any other religion. As otherwise why would so many follow them?

>>14 Couldn't have said it better.

You don't take a quote and not put it into context.

Back in the days when these words were revealed it applied to a certain context, for example tyrants who disfigured the innocent slaves and children (oh and I assure you it wasn't the muslims in that age). This is why ignorant people aren't interpreters of any holy books, notice there's years and years, actually a lifetime of study to do in order to understand this thoroughly, as well as why normal people consult scholars.

If everyone's a scholar then fuck it. I'm the head professor at my Law school.

Mweh, I almost forgot about this thread. Let's continue.

>>14
Dude, I was born in a muslim majority country and beloeve me, their ATTITUDE piss me off any time. Not as an individual, but as a collective mass, and it's not even about terrorism.
Individually they may be fine, yes, and I know some pretty good ones too. But a COMMUNITY is a different matter. You can call it a religion of peace or whatever, but it's not, and will never be a religion full of tolerance. Say that to the minorities constantly oppressed in those countries, do most people from the islamic society care? No, because they don't even KNOW that there is any kind of oppression going on. Unlike in the western world, we don't have a convenient word like islamophobia for the minorities.

While we're on the topic, it's not good to judge a religion based solely on their holy verses. Since they can always deviate from them anytime. You have to look at their collective temperament and the like.

>>14 Can we say that every religion has its good and bad then? There is no religion that hasn't had a bloody history at some point.
But for some reason, Islam is making itself to be worst than Christianity was, at least in my opinion.

Out of curiosity, what is your stance on Sharia law then, Unni? If my understanding is correct, Sharia is separate from the Quoran, but still followed by some countries. I'm not that knowledgeable in Islamic discussions and I won't pretend to be, but some aspects of Sharia that are enforced in Muslim countries are rather scary. So what about those? Aren't they still part of Islamic religion?

There are aspects of Christianity which were (are?) horrible too, but I don't know of any practices similar to Sharia in Christianity.

And this is not to spite you Unni, just having an open discussion :)

>>15 That much is true. There are so many ways to misinterpret what the Bible or Quoran or whatever has written. And in my opinion, it's this misinterpretation that led to problems, because humans err and will (sometimes) interpret things from Holy Scriptures in ways that please them.

My personal opinion on this whole religion debate -- religion is created by humans and you can't always depend on it to be "good", but faith is not created by anyone, it comes from within, and that's what's most important to have.

>>17
That would be most apparent in the middle ages where saying a rude word gets you a mouth washing and disboeying a priest gets you imprisonment and various tortures.

>>18 Ah torture of all kind, indeed, now I remember. Off subject a bit, but weren't witch hunts also religiously linked? That witches were "devil-worshipers" and the like and burned alive at the stake? That was middle ages too wasn't it? Man I need to brush up on my history and stuff.

>>19
That certainly has something to do with religion, but I'm pretty sure the psychological aspect's important too.
It's just a thought, but it's possible that people are just taking their frustrations out on the accused. It wasn't that peaceful of a time. It's the same as when they treat Cats as demons in Europe. Remind me to curse all of them.

Also, a bit about the witch trials, usually there were multiple arrests even though there's originally only one suspect because the suspect tried to shift blame on the other members of the family, but they didn't clearly deny doing witchcraft. Basically they had no experience with trials and there was no lawyer involved.

>>20 Hmm, I see, I see, indeed, that's possible.

And yes, curse them, because nobody treats cats like that. (I'd rather worship cats than anything else lol.)

>>17 There's no country that follows Sharia Law if you know what it really is. Chopping off hands for someone stealing is not Sharia. Killing a suspected gay person is not Sharia either.

In fact, you cannot apply any of these punishments unless the perpetrator themselves admit to it, knowing full well what consequences are placed.

From my knowledge in the fact of stealing, sometimes you won't even get a punishment depending on why the person did it. If it was for him to survive he is free from any punishment. If he's just an ass who's already living a decent life and decided to make someone else's hell, even then he is trialed to be spared. Out of the many 100s of 100s of years this law use to apply, only 4 people ACTUALLY got their hands chopped off.

If you hear about hands flying off like leaves off a tree, know that these are the people who took their religion and ruined it. It's humanity that ruins things, not religion.

>>22
Technically, religion is not a fixed existence, but rather a short existence that's continuously sustained by the people.
Which means you can neither ruin nor fix it.

Btw, a small region in my country does practice the Sharia. You might've seen the news about a woman publicly whipped for talking to a classmate of the opposite gender.

>>23 That's not Sharia, it's someone who claims it is. Notice you used the word "small region".

If you want to know a few examples of Sharia. It's to follow the rulings of the country you live in such as voting, road rules, the court system, etc. It's also to visit a sick person as it's their right. It's also to know your neighbour and be kind to them. Aussies here for example don't even know who lives right next door unless they're red necks. To what Sharia truly is, it's integration regardless of who the other person next to you is.

Like I said, there's no "country" who follows it now (not even Saudi Arabia). Only the individual who had the thought of meeting her/his neighbour.

>>24
It's less of what's 'true' and more of what's apparent in reality.
Just as the stupid mutts debating what's 'true islam' to express the satisfaction, that kind of debate is garbage. Based on this statement, it's uselesss to call in the 'experts' of religion, anyway.
Currently what's perceived as Sharia is: gender segregation, cruel punishment, nonsensical rules, abuse, etc.

I couldn't care less what they meant by 'true sharia' or 'true islam' if they call it sharia, that's what I'm gonna call it. Regardless of whether it's true or not, it still violates many human rights (according to America's standard), and even if it's a small region, the population is made up of thousands, and the rest of the country remains silent about it. In other words, like what I implied in my previous posts, as a community, they don't give a shit about oppression, especially if it's done in the name of Islam.

>>25 If so, then it's like saying plagiarism is right.

You do your research for your assignment, take what you like from wherever and don't reference it. Then you give it to your lecturer and she assumes it's your opinion despite it being right or wrong. Not even assume, she'll just accept it and say 'it is what it is! and I'm not thinking otherwise'. And you'd have the power to manipulate this information. Then later in the future when someone out-sources this, they'll say "this was the original idea, not what it is now!" but by then it'd be too late.

Another example? Guns kill people? Wrong. People kill people.

Sure, no one needs to care what the other person thinks of them. But to throw away someone's way of living as being a form of tyranny is pretty odd. Also notice how I didn't use the term 'Sharia *Law*' and instead called it Shariah. The *Law* part has been placed by the West to accommodate your opinions on 'whipping' and 'chopping off the hands'. Thus showing how dominant the west is in everyone's opinion of a matter that shouldn't even worry them.

Why I say Sharia is because it's not just 'Law', because as far as law goes, it says to follow the country while holding onto faith. The rest is how to live with your own kind and others.


When I referred to 'small region' I didn't mean it in the idea that it's a small thing and it doesn't matter. More of in the sense that this small region is not a representation of the whole country. Their 'Sharia Law' shouldn't be followed when there's a whole country's law in force. If you think someone is worth punishing, take it to the official courts.

>>26 Another example, santa goes on a shooting spree and steals from petrol stations on Christmas.

I dunno, the media showed me this. If they call him santa then I'll call him santa, even though someone once upon a time told me he was just a harmless mascot for Coca Cola.

This might be early but merry christmas people. Make sure your wallets still on you.

>>26
The court is unfortunately non-functional as economic and political influence is too strong in that country.
Also there's something about that reasoning. Plagiarism is not plagiarism when the teacher doesn't know. I can just say that I got this reference from this book, and even if it's not true, it won't be marked as plagiarism if the teacher doesn't check it.

Same with current issues. People don't care enough about learning what's true religion or its historical feats etc. They only observe the current adherents to said religion and give the judgment. If you're gonna say this is wrong, it's wrong, but not everyone is willing to spend years studying the Koran just to raise an issue (well, not most people).

>>27
If the name's Santa, I will call him Santa.


btw, the west has nothing to do with my arguments, thank you very much. They're personally motivated. Islam is trying to eliminate BL (and anime culture, most likely) and I'm not staying put about that.

>>28 That's why we can't look at things at face value anymore in this day and age. I would've hated rednecks wearing sunglasses all the time until I saw my school principle wear 'em.

Muslim country, muslim rules.

Western country, western rules.

BL country, BL rul- oh god no.

BL??

did someone say BL??

oh yes.

>>29
Finish that sentence.

Thing is, they're expanding and western is shrinking. difference of birth rate.