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Anti-muslim backlash, the FABRICATED MYTH (15)

1 Name: Neko : 2015-12-19 18:20 ID:qhXIuq5R [Del]

http://www.redstate.com/2015/12/19/disgusting-myth-anti-muslim-backlash-sanbernardinoshooting/

Finally a sensible writer. Was just getting tired of seeing that exact same topic in my news feed. Sincerely, thank you.

2 Name: Adhelam : 2015-12-19 21:43 ID:5bLO+sND [Del]

Is this a joke?

3 Name: Neko : 2015-12-20 01:37 ID:qhXIuq5R [Del]

Nope.
Western journalism mostly only publish what's popular after all.
If it's not popular, there wouldn't be any reporter chasing the story.

4 Name: Adhelam : 2015-12-20 11:48 ID:5bLO+sND [Del]

Western journalism also immediately ties large acts of violence to terrorism as soon as they find out the suspect /might be/ Arab/brown.

My point is this article is a joke because it downplays the very real threat brown people in the West face after any terrorist crime. The Islamophobia they face is no joke. Even if you can find a conservative blog post challenging the numbers that do exist of "actual hate crimes" committed against them, you have to take into account how often these are even reported. Also there are many incidents that may not technically qualify as a hate crime, but still threaten the safety of brown people in general.

I get you think that Islamophobia is sensationalized, but I think just because we here about it more than we are used to does not mean that's the case.

Regardless, these kind of articles only serve to do more harm than good. If you're not Muslim or even brown, then whether or not these incidents are reported doesn't affect you. It affects them. We shouldn't complain if they're being reported because it literally does not affect us at all.

5 Name: Neko : 2015-12-20 11:53 ID:qhXIuq5R [Del]

That was careless of me. My bad. What I meant to say is, they're not fabricated. They're exaggerated.
Sure, the prejudice is very real and may have been escalated recently, but the influx of news and bogus info are making people do stupid things like wearing a hijab to churches to "increase solidarity" which is only making it worse.
You can respect other religion, but doing so in expense of disrespecting your own religion is not a good way to promote tolerance.

6 Name: Neko : 2015-12-20 15:05 ID:qhXIuq5R [Del]

>>4
Oh wait, I realized something after re-reading it.
I dismissed the article also as an exaggerated rant (but with some valid points) since the writer obviously said those things at the end, but some people take that too seriously.
Sorry for that, but I still think the article's worth reading. Just to give a different perspective.

7 Name: Adhelam : 2015-12-20 16:01 ID:5bLO+sND [Del]

It's okay. I still disagree with the article completely and have to say I wouldn't go as far to say the reporting of these acts are exaggerated, but I see what you're saying about the effects that kind of reporting has.

Also, while I'm not always a fan of wearing hijabs in solidarity, it's actually for a different reason. Unless the Muslim community actually appreciates it, I don't know if it does much to help them. It removes the focus away from what practical things we can do to keep them safe. I'm not Muslim though, so I can't speak for them; I'm just going off of what Muslim friends have told me.

By the way, I don't think wearing a hijab disrespects Christianity. A hijab is just a head covering and actually in Christianity, women have also covered their heads in reverence to God. Not as much in Protestant churches, but I see it in Orthodox churches a lot.

8 Name: Neko : 2015-12-20 16:24 ID:qhXIuq5R [Del]

Wearing a head cover is not, but the color of the hijab is the problem.
Most people don't know about the customs of both christian and islam, so simply wearing it can mean that it's perceived as the symbol of another God.
And it's kinda a taboo to worship or praise another God no matter which religion you belong too.

9 Name: Adhelam : 2015-12-20 18:07 ID:5bLO+sND [Del]

What do you mean by color?

Yeah that's true. Although technically Islam and Christianity worship the same God. I see what you're saying though. It can be misconstrued pretty easily.

10 Name: Neko : 2015-12-20 18:17 ID:qhXIuq5R [Del]

Well, from what I know, orthodox Christian head covers are strictly solid black / white.
Meanwhile, hijab these days are pink, green, etc. even the black ones are sometimes decorated.

11 Name: Adhelam : 2015-12-20 19:44 ID:5bLO+sND [Del]

I think that might depend on the church or even country. Just as in Islam.

12 Name: Neko : 2015-12-21 05:40 ID:qhXIuq5R [Del]

>>9
The great schism of Christianity was over a debate whether Jesus is fully divine or had some human attributes.
Saying that they and Islam share the same God is gonna make them flip, man.
In fact, some uni theology professor got suspended recently just by saying that.

13 Name: Tuen : 2015-12-21 16:24 ID:iq83BD5f [Del]

I disagree with the nature document. I don't think by decreasing the nature of these attack by comparing them to the Paris tragedy is the right way to go. The Paris attacks were horrendous but that doesn't mean a random Muslim girl should be harassed. What those people did isn't in Islam or any religion. If we were to compare the Paris tragedy to all of the African Americans killed by the KKK (which claims to be a Christian organisation). It would seem insignificant, which it isn't. WE should stop viewing people as number rather as human beings with family, friends and with lives of their own.

14 Name: Kokkuri-san : 2015-12-22 22:42 ID:RFjaYWVg [Del]

>>13
"We should stop viewing people as (a) number rather as human beings with family, friends and with lives of their own"

Tuen you are fucking awesome, no one has ever said that better than you.

15 Name: Adhelam : 2015-12-22 23:34 ID:5bLO+sND [Del]

>>13 Completely agree.

>>12 It's true though, although the belief in the Trinity is not compatible with Islam at all.