I don't really know what else to say apart from posting the links so... is this acceptable news though? ><;I had a quick skim through the most recent threads and couldn't find this, so..

・ http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/24/japan-attempts-verify-isis-hostage-beheading-video-yukawa
・ http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/isis-claims-it-executed-haruna-yukawa-one-two-japanese-hostages-n291926
・ http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/isis-demand-release-sajida-al-rishawi-seen-propaganda-ploy-n292956

This might be a bad time to be alive and growing up and all, if this group starts to gain more power and take control of other places..

Isn't this similar to the Charlie Hebdo incident, or was that by completely different people?
Is ISIS gonna start attacking everyone? Are we gonna be taken over by these guys? How long until that happens? Most likely they're probably planning things right now, right?

//apologies for the random article post spaz..

Sigh... You didn't make a summary of the articles at all. What is this about? What happened?

For once I found someone who made sure to have links, but now there's no summary. As I told someone else, if you don't care to summarize then copy and paste a section of the article here.

I'm starting to think the guidelines aren't clear enough. I probably have to remake that thread.

Ah, sorry. I didn't know what to write at the time so by the time I posted it, I had forgot.
It's too late now, but I'll try a summarise it for other readers. I'm bad at this though, so apologies in advance if I get things wrong.

It's about the ISIS group. They had taken two Japanese men as hostage(Kenji Goto and Haruna Yukawa) and demanded for a $200m(£130m?) ransom. Some time earlier, a video was apparently released where Goto was holding a picture up of what seemed to be Haruna's body. He said in English, that they now don't want a ransom anymore, but an exachange with a prisoner(suicide bomber Sajida al-Rishawi. Her bomb failed to go off and she was captured. This was in 2005, though, I think.) in Jordan.
Goto is apparently a free-lancing journalist and he had visited Syria a few times to cover there.

Article about Sajida;
・http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/who-is-sajida-mubarak-atrous-alrishawi-the-female-suicide-bomber-at-the-heart-of-isis-prisoner-swap-plan-10000572.html

That's the best I can do.. I hope it's okay. Again, I'm sorry for missing it.

It isn't the same as the Charlie Hebdo incident, because the Charlie Hebdo incident was about free speech.
From the pieces of information concerning the two Japanese hostages, it seems like they knew Japan wouldn't accept their demand and wanted a prisoner exchange since the beginning. One simply does not change their demand (especially when it is about an important amount of money) just after killing an hostage. I think the real purpose of killing a first hostage was to put pressure on the Japanese government, and by shifting the demand to something "less valuable", Japan would accept the offer.

Isis are a bunch of psychopaths who kill for pleasure. The is no place in Islam for this mindless murder nor in any other religion or in basic human decency. If we start killing others who do not agree with our demands then how does that make us any better than animals. I say this as a Muslim, this is not Islam.

I heard about a bunch of anonynous hackers declaring some sort of war on ISIS, however they plan to do that.

ISIS is getting crazier with their actions. Either that, or the news hadn't covered all of this until it became more urgent. I feel like they aren't doing good for the Islamic religion.
Several people from other countries, including the U.S.A. wish to join this organization. It's kind of sickening to the stomach...knowing that any moment, innocents can get involved. There are also countries in Africa which are being affected.

Take over?
Probable and possible but still a 50-50 chance of happening since not all muslims are in ISIS' side. Even so the fact that recruit teenagers that think that their life is not worth living or that they have no purpose in life is still scarier than the fact that they kill, because let's face it humans kill humans for no rational explanation at all (look at the world wars for example, no reason).
Attacking everyone?
They are already doing so and I bet my hat they might continue untill they make a screw up in a very powerfull country that will go berserk against them. (I'd say that would be either America, Russia or, the most unbelievable of all, Switzerland. But all those are mere speculations a 17yearold made on his own so seriously don't take it personaly or at heart, I am neither God nor a prophet and I don't know what will happen.)

These people are just a bunch of braindead-relegious shitheads.I hope some day they will be exterminated from this world before they cause more trouble.

The Dollars should fight them!

>>10 We are not violent and certainly we are not the anonymous ^^

its as if people are going mad... crazy and killing people for no real reason.. just like a brainwashed zombie attack

All joking aside, no way could the Dollars ever really fight anyone.

>>13 You're most probably right.
Don't want to make anyone feel bad...but the only things we can brag about are our brains and number other than that we are all wimps (including me) I guess ^~^"""""

In general, what ISIS is doing is wrong-clearly they are using religion as a means of obtaining power and an excuse to use violence in the process. However, this has been going on for thousands of years, and in the end organizations like this crumble. In my opinion, ISIS won't really "take over" anything, especially not right now. With a recent trend of accepting everyone for who they are-the direct opposite of what ISIS practices-the majority world is pitted against them. They will be stopped, and humanity will move forward as it always does.

>>15 What6 worries me is how the will be stopped. Use a lot of violence and you get others complaining at you for that. Try a new kind of weapon and you get accused again.....maaaan all of the countries don't know when to stop (including mine) don't they?

>>8 you make it sound like lots of young Muslims are going. That's a figure being dramatised by the media.

Its funny because people making it out like this is so unhuman. During the crusades they used eating the flesh of the enemy.and throw dead heads into civilian towns. If you research the crusades it makes Isis beheading mild.

Does anyone stop and doubt what the news is telling you?
Why would Isis be so huge after instantly emerging and if they are as big as they are claimed to be then why haven't they killed Assad?
Also about the hostages, why are the so many foreigners in an area in which most countries do not allow their nationals? Does none else think what if they were actually spies. Some are perhaps honest civilians. But it wouldn't be hard for Cia to pay someone to take photos and report on an area.
Why didn't the west sort out Syria before it became this bad? Does anyone think they couldn't come to a conclusion early but when Isis come they are eager to bomb Syria. A method know to kill more then it saves.
Its interesting how everyone is quick to believe the news.
I mean in human rights America is probably the worst. They have a prison just for foreigners, which is illegal as a person must be tried in the country of origin unless that country agrees. Where torture far worse to anything done by Isis takes place. Its hardly the place of America to police the world when it can't follow the human rights charter.

>>20

>> Whoa, whoa, dude, America doesn't torture people to the extent that you make it sound. There was a video link of some torture videos, right?

Let's make it as obvious as possible that you didn't read the torture report. Or even a summary of the torture report.

>> But dude, it was just after the 911 incident that was horrifying everyone. Stop making them sound so incredibly inhumane.
You do NOT. EVER. excuse torture.
How the hell was our nation suppose to wag a finger at others known for their inhumane methods of gathering information, while at the same time we're accidentally torturing our own informants.

>> Also, the Middle East isn't a stable area, so a country was gonna collapse sooner or later, don't blame the 'west' to sort out something that wasn't even their problem.

Actually, stability of the Middle East was WAY better before we arrived fucked shit up.

>>So feh. Feh. We're the Dollars so let's leave it aside.

No.
Your ignorance is astounding and can't be left aside.

Wasn't excusing torture :P Wouldn't ever do that. I realized how badly I worded my post, so I deleted it. Although that was actually pointless cause you copy & pasted that darn thing >.<

>>21 May I ask how you accidentally torture someone. I wasn't trying to exaggerate the tortures but say the truth. It has has long proved that the torture methods are against human rights with some inmates being questioned without charge.
The few methods they have admitted to, things like water boarding, sleep deprivation, starvation, are all against human rights and are enough to drive people insane. And yet there are other methods they have deemed classified to the public. And reports have shown that torture done the US are worst then the public previously thought.
And you cannot claim that organisations like the CIA always have your best interests at heart. They simply want to keep the USA's global position.
The US is a country know to make excuses for torture. And one that always follows the status quo. If you doubt me then go to events like the Mai Lay massacre, where uss army personal murder thousands of armless civilians, shooting even babies in cots. If you still trust the CIA so much research " operation Northwood". You say I am ignorant but to me you just sound like another cliche citizen who doesn't doubt what the president and the news tell you.
In America you are 8x more likely to be killed by a police officer nest to you then a terrorist in the middle east. A country with such an ethic code code are go around " fighting for peace". They should even call themselves the "leader of the free world".

>>23

>> May I ask how you accidentally torture someone.
They captured someone they thought was the enemy and tortured him for information. Comically and tragically, the man was already an informant for the U.S.

>> ...And you cannot claim that organisations like the CIA always have your best interests at heart. They simply want to keep the USA's global position.
Perfectly worded, and I agree.

>>You say I am ignorant but to me you just sound like another cliche citizen who doesn't doubt what the president and the news tell you.

....You lost me. What the fuck are you talking about? Did you mean to respond to >>20? Are you not a native English speaker and misinterpreted what I said?

>> In America you are 8x more likely to be killed by a police officer nest to you then a terrorist in the middle east.
Was that something you pulled out of your ass, or are those actual statistics? (No I'm serious)
Being killed by a police officer and being killed by a terrorist are two completely different things that I do not believe you can statistically say that one percentage is higher than the other without coming out as biased and using incorrect data.
A police officer may shoot & kill when
a) They're life is in danger
b) An accident due to a misunderstanding or poor handling of the situation.
c) When he is corrupt.

I think you could only stay true to your statement if you rounded up the number of kills a crooked cops makes a year in America compared to the body count terrorists in the Middle East stack up.

Remember the Pakistani shooting that left over a hundred children dead? Remember how the news has said that within the last six months ISIS has murdered over 2,000 people?
And then, those are only counting the terrorists killing within the Middle East. There are Russian terrorists, African terrorists, and as of late, French terrorists all branches derived from radical groups from the Middle East.

ISIS is just another group of religious extremists that want to terrorize the world. Thinking that their salvation would be secured by killing other races who are not Muslims. They should just vanish from this world.

>>24 That isn't the accidental torture but the torture of an innocent person. I fail to comprehend how that is comical to you.
What I said was in clear English. That fact you don't understand, puts into doubt your reading capabilities.

If you doubt the statistic then think, how many people are shot dead by the police force. And how many are killed, whoever you consider, a terrorist.
You mentioned the Pakistani school shootings and yet it wasn't that long ago when there was the sandygate shootings in Connecticut.
You mentioned the Isis killing of the yazidis. An event in which I do remember. I don't understand how that helps your argument. If we were to sit here are swap genocide stories, then how about the mass murder and discrimination of native Americans.

There are Russian terrorists, African terrorists, and as of late, French terrorists all branches derived from radical groups from the Middle East.
You seem to use the word terrorist quite loosely. The definition of a terrorist is some who commits acts of terror usually for political gain. You say " Russian and African terrorists " which group are you referring to because those terms are quite vague and can be easily misinterpreted as racist. The "French terrorists" you refer to, I presume are Charlie Hebdo's murders. They are not terrorists aa they didn't not commit there to prompt terror but to simply murder. Unless you are associating with terrorism on the fact they are muslim, which is flat out racist. Its implying that it's murder unless they are muslim.
I fail to see what you are are arguing for. It simply sounds like a petty insult then someone arguing a case. Which is rather disappointing.

>>26 No no no.

You seriously are confused.

>>That isn't the accidental torture but the torture of an innocent person.
Oh my God... Word it however you want, but once again the original comment wasn't even towards you, I was talking to someone else about how we accidentally tortured someone who we didn’t mean to torture because they were our informant. Comically and ironically are synonyms. And why did you skip over me saying “tragically”?? What is your damage??

>>If you doubt the statistic then think, how many people are shot dead by the police force. And how many are killed, whoever you consider, a terrorist.
No. I'm telling you to back up your shit, not pull stuff out your ass.

>> You mentioned the Pakistani school shootings and yet it wasn't that long ago when there was the sandygate shootings in Connecticut.
Right. Terrorism. I'm not saying it doesn't happen on our land too; my point was that the victims of terrorism far out number the victims of unjustified kills by police.
By the way, it's "Sandy HOOK" not Sandygate.


>>You mentioned the Isis killing of the yazidis. An event in which I do remember. I don't understand how that helps your argument.

...Are you kidding me? I was listing events in why our police force do not kill more than terrorists.


>>They are not terrorists aa they didn't not commit there to prompt terror but to simply murder.
I am seriously laughing right now. That could be said about all terrorists really.
But if you consider al Quaida...the people who trained them...TERRORISTS....Then wouldn't that make the Charlie Hebdo shooters....TERRORISTS?

>>You say " Russian and African terrorists " which group are you referring to because those terms are quite vague and can be easily misinterpreted as racist.

Only by someone like you. I can understand if you didn’t know about the school bombing in Beslan, Russia that left children, mothers, and all fathers dead, but how did you not think of Boko Haram when I mentioned African terrorists? He recently left 10,000 people homeless and recorded the onslaught of over 2,000 people.

>>Unless you are associating with terrorism on the fact they are muslim, which is flat out racist. Its implying that it's murder unless they are muslim.

...What. Are. You. Talking. About.
For years, people of religion such as myself have been trying to stop people from blending religion and terrorism together. Those radicals are NOT Muslim. The radicals who blew up abortion hospitals and assaulted doctors and nurses WERE NOT Christians. Not once did I ever say that terrorism and the Muslim religion were one in the same. What is wrong with you??



>> I fail to see what you are are arguing for. It simply sounds like a petty insult then someone arguing a case. Which is rather disappointing.

What the fuck?? I tried dealing with this nicely before, but you continue to prove that you like starting shit over nothing and making absolutely no sense. Like, seriously, I was agreeing with your previous posts so I don't understand why the fuck you're arguing against an argument that does not fucking exist. And I'm not going to talk to you again unless you look over what I said one more time and tell me what offended you.

>>Are you not a native English speaker and misinterpreted what I said?
This wasn't an insult; it was a genuine question because not once did I call you ignorant. Not Even Once. But I can probably say it now...

Sigh, this is so pointless. Here I thought I could hold a grown up discussion without you resorting to swearing. Sad really.

>>28 (shrugs) Anyone would be at their wits end when your "grown up discussion" was nothing but incoherent babble. If you've realized the error you've made in your arguments, then good. All I was trying to point out was how nothing you said made sense in regards to anything I said.

>>10 I like your thinking :D

We'd never do it... but still great attitude :)

>>32
Good idea, I wish we COULD do something though. Dangerous as it may seem, little things we could do is to convince people we might be close to who wish to join ISIS, to not! We can't let the lives of the youth go to waste for something they might not understand at a young age.

>>31 Yeah, going to have to go with Magnolia on this. Every post of brunie's made me really confused as to who or what they were responding to. Reading a little too far between the lines, it looked like.

Also, >>28.
>you just sound like another cliche citizen who doesn't doubt what the president and the news tell you
>That fact you don't understand, puts into doubt your reading capabilities.

I fail to see how you were maintaining 'adult discussion' at any point in time.

>>34 Marry Me.



Or at least, that's what I would say if I had a clue what your gender is. ^^'

WARNING OFFTOPIC: Why is it, that in any international thread or affair, more than half of the arguments are linked to US specific events... I don't have anything against US people, but I think most of the shit you talk about are things people internationally can't even remotely relate to.

>>36 I'm sorry, you're saying you CANT relate to are need for Pretty Little Liars & Scandal?

All jokes aside, I hope you know we're not being haughty or anything. When you counter an argument or start a debate, you use the knowledge you know. We mainly know about the events of our own countries, right?

But truthfully, I have a problem with something you said:
"Why is it, that in any international thread or affair, more than half of the arguments are linked to US specific events"

It's simple. We like talking. We like talking loudly. We like making our voices heard.

It's up to you to include more arguments from events in your own country, wouldn't you say?
That's kind of why I want the News board to allow other languages, because even though Google isn't perfect, it can give us an idea.

>>32 Oh well thanks! xD I know there isn't anything we can do, but it would be so amazing if there was!

>>33 Yeah! That makes sense

>>35 Too bad I am too scared to post a picture on the Stalker Thread, otherwise we'd all know for sure.

I think BarabiSama has already come to terms, though.

>>37 And here I was clearing up a misunderstanding a second ago which turned out to be a joke lol. Lesson is I gotta read further than 1 paragraph before starting an answer.

Anyways, I did actually a couple of times, very little give a shit actually, cause most don't even try to relate to it. But you are also welcome to form arguments with only foreign countries affairs, that sounds like an interesting challenge. I mean, it's not like it hasn't been done before. I for example mostly have no other choice anyways.

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*sigh*

I know my reply has nothing to really do with this entire thread but when I read up on stuff like this, stuff that goes on out in the world, it puts me in a very depressing mood.

I can't stand to read or hear about this kind of stuff going on in our world, so I just try to shut out all the political and worldly issues. I know that's extremely inconsiderate of me to choose ignorance over all else but they do say ignorance is bliss...Not to mention I am already a depressed person to begin with so this stuff makes me regret being a human being.

Anyways, it makes me sad to see people using religion as a preface for war and murder, and I'm not even a religious person. What kind of hope does the human race have of ever achieving any sort of peace if we add more and more to this bucket list of problems left to be solved?

That was just my take on these kinds of matters anyways...Now I'm just gonna go sit down for a while, maybe reflect on my life for a bit.

How something is, isn't determined how it is, but more how people see it. The origin of evil is good. So if evil ends, it becomes to good.

Mister Neko the world was ever a dark place, whit many bad things. If we see into the past, it is difficult to say that the world is good, but what happens if you decide to see the evil as something good. How can ISIS be good? It concentrate the countries of the world against the same enemy. Such things helps us human to understand us better. Not only feel depressed after hearing such things. But if we all stay depressed, the thing, which made us depressed, will not vanish. Even when one thing is bad, we may not let us be influenced by that. Stay good, doing that means to fight evil. Because the goal of evil is to destroy good.

Most likely the united states of America is going to interven and take them out.thats what I would like to think anyway

Hakaron, I must disagree with you, 'good' and 'evil' are merely things that each person has decided, it is subjective. On the other hand, most people would consider the group ISIS to be 'evil'. However there are people who work against them, such as the operation which anonymous has had running for a while, #IceISIS.

Mr Outside, USA can't resolve everything

@Mae
There going to send in like a swat team just how like they did for Bin Laden or start another war.

There is this detached mentality in Japan that this problem doesn't exist and will never affect them because there is never terrorist attacks. People are not taking the current situation seriously, and this reflects in Japan's handling of that hostage situation.
But what is really important in this situation is to never let the people with power take away your personal freedom. Power corrupts.

^ above the shitposters you go. Bump.