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Safety Net for Suicide Jumpers at Golden Gate Bridge (53)

1 Name: Metanome : 2014-06-05 01:09 ID:sf65qbr/ [Del]

So I found this article and I wanna hear your opinions. Every other day there is a suicide or suicide attempt at the golden gate bridge, San Francisco. A lot of people are arguing if a $66million stainless steel safety net should be there or not,they argue for many reasons, one being that there may be no point because the people would just look at the safety net and then try commit suicide somewhere else. But I guess in a way a safety net is good?
What's your opinion guys?

Article link is down below

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/27/us/suicides-mounting-golden-gate-looks-to-add-a-safety-net.html

2 Name: pixie : 2014-06-05 03:22 ID:zaFBiUsZ [Del]

I definitely don't want other people to die, I believe everyone should try to find a reason to go on and exist. But as a person with suicidal thoughts, I would get angry if people were to try to stop me from killing myself. The world can be an ugly and miserable place, we shouldn't force people to stay alive (as sweet of a sentiment that is). I guess my disagreeing is more towards the fact that suicide is illegal, I believe if life is that unbearable for a person they should have a way to end it. And if that way is a bridge, well then there you go.

3 Name: Disrupt : 2014-06-05 09:23 ID:ATjfEt3U [Del]

Suicide is such a socially touchy subject because of widespread media morality. It's no doubt a sad thing to happen when it does, but the more you tell people that they're not allowed to do something- the more they want to do it.

I think by giving people more responsibility for their own life, ie. telling them they can kill themselves if they really wanted to, that less people would actually commit suicide.

4 Name: zero : 2014-06-05 10:07 ID:N7a83iZh [Del]

i agree with disrupt you can control some one else but you can try to talk them out of it

5 Name: BarabiSama !!C8QPa1Mt : 2014-06-05 13:59 ID:iSsfam2s [Del]

>>2 Suicide isn't illegal, but assisting someone to commit suicide is, and most places have public assistance laws against not helping someone in danger (not that many people follow them). It's also illegal around here to be a public nuisance or to cause pubic panic, which that would cause.

I.e., if you're going to commit suicide, just do it in your own damn house. Don't make a dramatic scene out of it.

6 Name: Chreggome : 2014-06-06 02:42 ID:2IJIqNvA [Del]

>>5
>to cause pubic panic
>cause pubic panic
>pubic panic
>pubic

Fucking shit.

7 Name: BarabiSama !!C8QPa1Mt : 2014-06-06 07:12 ID:rprbBxJx [Del]

>>6 Goddamnit Chrome, you know what I mean xD

8 Name: Chreggome : 2014-06-06 07:42 ID:2IJIqNvA [Del]

>>7 I really really like the phrase pubic panic though.

9 Name: BarabiSama !!C8QPa1Mt : 2014-06-06 07:44 ID:rprbBxJx [Del]

>>8 You're welcome to use it anytime you want.

10 Name: Neko-chan : 2014-06-11 15:00 ID:XPKD4kDO [Del]

I think if people have the right to live then they have the right to die. But i really couldnt care less either way

11 Name: hiro : 2014-06-11 22:43 ID:7iVD2d0c [Del]

that'd be really embarrassing to be caught in it s:

i am for it, but it may be misused by rebellious youth.....or bullies.

12 Name: sleepology !CHs4eVJ3O2 : 2014-06-12 00:54 ID:/paKCtOX [Del]

>>11 stop talking

13 Name: Kenichi Nakagawa : 2014-06-13 07:40 ID:7xA4WJx3 [Del]

Why make it out of steel? Make it out of strings or mattresses...

14 Name: BarabiSama !!C8QPa1Mt : 2014-06-13 18:15 ID:SWHntUQK [Del]

>>13 Those would just rot with the weather and air :\

15 Name: Sleepology !4a6Vun8zuw : 2014-06-13 23:12 ID:/paKCtOX [Del]

Also, string? Really? Do you understand how physics works?

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17 Name: Yori : 2014-06-16 19:32 ID:zVHx87nw [Del]

I think a saftey net would be an excelent decision, but it seems a little costly.

18 Name: Inuhakka !u4InuhakKA : 2014-06-16 20:09 ID:Ck4uQ4XP [Del]

I think they should invest that $66 000 000 in the community so maybe people don't feel the need to kill themselves in the first place. A safety net is a complete waste of money, in my opinion. It's just spreading the problem elsewhere without solving anything. A very short-sighted approach.

19 Name: Seirei : 2014-06-16 21:53 ID:miPGr2/7 [Del]

Have you seen the end of NHK?
-a safety net is a lovely idea~!!

20 Name: Yukio !DboM3.beAE : 2014-06-27 10:42 ID:isg1WvHC [Del]

I think it's a good idea. It's expensive, and I think they should work on finding a cheaper way, but I still agree.
>>18 Improving the area wouldn't really fix suicidal behaviors, as depression is a mental illness. Unless they could use that money to forever provide mental illness help for the entire city, and find the means to automatically detect the brain of a depressed recluse who hasn't come out of his home in weeks.

21 Name: anubis!AnUBiS6/LQ : 2014-06-27 20:16 ID:VO+ZDJ4W [Del]

>>20 I'm pretty sure Inu means helping people with mental illness, not just general "improve the community" stuff.

22 Name: Asuka : 2014-06-27 23:29 ID:J+QGFsKB [Del]

Actually, i agree with >>18 by making a safety net which cost a huge sum of money it's not going to help with decreasing the suicide rates, it might make suicide look even more appealing to those whom are diagnosed with depression

Exactly because they prevent the people to commit suicide there most would find another place causing a higher level of public disturbance

( people have the right to die but that is very selfish of them, it forces regret on their loved ones and make people who live suffer)

Thats not right especially when the people who commit suicide nowadays are teenagers , that are -verbally abused- online, in other words cyberbullied

If they are worrying about the safety and security of the people , they should worry more about the suicide witnesses

Instead they shld pour some
money into the economy n security

23 Name: Sleepology !4a6Vun8zuw : 2014-06-28 00:18 ID:/paKCtOX [Del]

>>22 and what would you say if people made the "suicide forest" impenetrable? Would that make it so suicide was more appealing, or instead would it actually do what it was set out to do and stop suicide occurring in that specific location?

24 Name: Asuka : 2014-06-28 11:28 ID:lT8OYP8d [Del]

>>23 hey im not talking about the outcome of them stopping suicide rates at the specific but suicide rates at whole , not only at the area

25 Name: BarabiSama !!C8QPa1Mt : 2014-06-28 13:21 ID:SWHntUQK [Del]

>>24 Yeah, but they don't really care about stopping suicide as a whole. It's a problem with the location. I have a feeling the bridge has been threatened with lawsuits because of the sheer number of suicides they've faced there. The families are probably the ones pushing them to make it so nobody can jump off; whether or not they suicide somewhere else isn't any of their business.

26 Name: mana : 2014-06-28 16:40 ID:mi++bXWQ [Del]

maybe someone should place there a poster about littering mother earth?

27 Name: BarabiSama !!C8QPa1Mt : 2014-06-28 17:02 ID:SWHntUQK [Del]

>>26 Decomposing bodies are good for the earth. That's pretty unrelated.

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29 Name: mana : 2014-06-28 17:33 ID:mi++bXWQ [Del]

>>27
greenpeace kamikadze...

30 Name: Reid : 2014-07-02 07:48 ID:FfKzcRld [Del]

IDK about steel but heavy rope would do well

31 Name: BarabiSama !!C8QPa1Mt : 2014-07-02 08:53 ID:SWHntUQK [Del]

>>30 It would rot over time :\

32 Name: Kenichi Nakagawa : 2014-07-02 13:36 ID:7xA4WJx3 [Del]

>>31 We could replace it? I mean.. Who wants to jump on something made of steel?

33 Name: BarabiSama !!C8QPa1Mt : 2014-07-02 14:01 ID:SWHntUQK [Del]

>>32 Replacing it would be labor intensive and not cost efficient in the long run. It's not like the net is going to be fifty feet down, and keeping them from jumping on it is kinda the point.

34 Name: Pengui : 2014-07-08 19:07 ID:I9I92DvL [Del]

I hardly think this would work? People who actually want to commit suicide will find other ways. Also keep in mind that it would cost millions of taxpayer dollars. Also I completely agree with BarabiSama. The big thing in suicide or any other thing for that matter is making your mind. Once you've made up your mind to commit suicide, there no stopping. A much better way to decrease suicides would to spread awareness about it. Anyway, this is just my opinion, and I would like to hear yours too.

35 Name: Akagami : 2014-07-08 19:55 ID:CSZ/g0lz [Del]

>>34
I agree with this.

36 Name: Katome : 2014-07-09 04:27 ID:ViwHsqe4 [Del]

I think it's the same as a texting while driving ban. It is a much needed law, but what good does it do? People just push their phones deeper into their laps as they drive instead of having it up in the air; however, there is no way that texting and driving SHOULD be legal. A net seems like the obvious thing to do, but Metanome is right when they say that people will just jump somewhere else.

37 Name: BarabiSama !!C8QPa1Mt : 2014-07-09 10:34 ID:SWHntUQK [Del]

>>36 Them jumping somewhere else is the whole point. It's not the bridge's job to keep them from jumping - just to stop prospective lawsuits caused by not doing anything about the number of jumpers each year.

38 Name: Kanra : 2014-07-09 22:42 ID:4VKSIIqp [Del]

it´s no use, even if you remove the bridge there are other ways to commit suicide, when someone wants to die, it does

39 Name: Sleepology !4a6Vun8zuw : 2014-07-09 23:44 ID:/paKCtOX [Del]

>>38 do you even read? Like it was literally just stated in the post right before yours why this is occurring.

40 Name: Chreggome : 2014-07-22 01:13 ID:2IJIqNvA [Del]

bump

41 Name: kanra : 2014-08-11 13:03 ID:seOcOqH3 [Del]

Why do we judge other humans and dont let them do what they want not what we want xl

42 Name: NORTH : 2014-08-12 16:50 ID:kfm0YqIe [Del]

I say up with the net

43 Name: Ene-chan!TiP5As2jNc : 2014-08-14 20:16 ID:aTGrrsGr [Del]

I say that the net is important. So many lives could be saved this way...

44 Name: skylly : 2014-08-15 13:04 ID:bGoSlKao [Del]

i say that it´s a waste of money and since human beings have free will we should have the right to decide if we want to die before our time has come

45 Name: Yenn : 2014-08-15 14:19 ID:yS+SlrI5 [Del]

I believe that even if the net is actually putted there people will go to other places to suicide the 66 million $$ should be wasted somewhere else.

46 Name: Takumi !C7S15Bwr.E : 2014-08-15 20:45 ID:bqfDIK5r [Del]

I don't believe you can save everyone's lives but I believe many lives can be saved.

47 Name: Thiamor !ZPE1Q6VxaY : 2014-08-16 16:23 ID:C8nIz5P0 [Del]

They don't have a right to die on a location they don't own, Skylly. If they want to die, do it in your own home. Not the Golden Gate Bridge. Not out in fucking public.

48 Name: Inuhakka !XminuhakkA : 2014-08-16 21:19 ID:vGcWI7ri [Del]

>>47 They probably aren't brave enough to do it at home. All it takes on a bridge is one thought, one step, and you die. At home, you have to really commit. In this sense, a net would save some people.

Also, do you really think they give a shit about rights?

49 Name: 溝田 : 2014-08-16 22:58 ID:qEysVqvR [Del]

This may sound ridiculous but what if they make a safety net that is clear, but is strong enough not to break. Though I have no idea if there something like exist or be made. because even if they look down it will at least camouflage it very well. Just a silly idea. What do you think?

50 Name: Inuhakka !XminuhakkA : 2014-08-16 23:04 ID:vGcWI7ri [Del]

>>49 Well, they are trying to put it out of view. It would be more expensive to build a net that is clear and strong enough to support a human without killing or seriously injuring them, I would think.

51 Name: Mugen : 2014-08-17 04:05 ID:RMLlp5n/ [Del]

Im from the San Francisco Bay Area also. They actually have a fence that runs along the bridge, so you cant actually jump off of it anymore unless you climb over. But I would assume one of the many hundred people on it at a time would stop anyone from climbing over and jumping off. Though there are, I'm guessing, probably different ways to jump off that bridge. Suicide is kinda inevitable.

52 Name: Thiamor !ZPE1Q6VxaY : 2014-08-17 10:33 ID:AGPeH8Xr [Del]

>>48
My post was directed at letting them do it since they have free will. Not that they care about rights.

53 Name: Anonymous : 2014-08-19 09:17 ID:8cs3u6XV [Del]

>stainless steel safety net
>stainless steel
>safety net
Ouch.