Nodaway County, Missouri: Maryville.

Daisy Coleman(14) and a friend(13)went with a group of older football players to a party. While there she consumed an unkown amount of alcohol, and it was later discovered she had .13 blood alcohol levels seven hours after last drinking. She and her friend were both raped by two football players. Another football player took video of the rape o his phone.
Daisy Coleman was discovered on the porch of her house the next morning, barely conscious in below freezing weather.
Her rapist was Matthew Barnett(18), and was the grandson of a long time Missouri state representative. He was arrested and charged with felony sexual assault. He confessed that he had sex with Daisy but said that it was consensual.
The charges where later dropped by the prosecution for a lack of evidence and the town was in outrage, but not at the alleged rapist, rather the family of the victim for pursing charges.
Daisy's home was later burned to the ground in suspected arson and they were forced to leave town.
E story would have ended there had it not been for the interference of online political and social activist group "Anonymous" who turned the case into a national issue and urging for the case to be reopened.

What are your thoughts?

Also I would like to launch a formal information request to all Dollars across the world: what information do we have on anonymous? Who are they? What are their previous recorded activities? And what activities do they have planned for the future?

Sources: http://www.kansas.com/2013/10/13/3057134/nightmare-in-missouri-town-teens.html

http://pastebin.com/3rq0ZSrY

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/16/tech/web/anonymous-maryville-rape-case/index.html

Page 14 of Time Magazine, Nation Section, "The World Is Watching Now" by David Von Drehle

information on Anonymous: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_(group)

Anonymous used to be something awesome.
Now it's a bunch of faggots and high school kids that are trying to be edgy.

Besides, it sounds like Daisy wasn't even really raped.
This shit is dumb.

The evidence seems to point towards rape, but even if you ignore that her house was still burned down and she was left barely conscious outside in 22 degree weather.

Also it seems that Anonymous is at least learning from their past experiences and mistakes with these kinds of things, and is trying to minimize collateral damage.

>>3 The evidence doesn't really point to anything conclusive.
She sneaked out of her house to drink with the popular football players and there is a pretty good possibility that she consented to sex.
So, could not be rape.

Also, no.
Anonymous stopped being worth a shit when they started getting popular.
It's all just a bunch of faggoty social justice warriors now.
It's shit and will never amount to half of the power old anonymous did.
Collateral damage used to be what anonymous was.
A glorious antihero.
Now it's whiteknight dinguses trying to get laid.
It's pure, unadulterated faggotry.

But I do agree with you that it's shitty her house got burnt down, and it does shine a suspicious light on things.

I'm just not so quick to play the rape game, so forgive me if I hurt any feelings.

What is so glorious about an Anti-hero? And what is so bad about social justice warriors?
And pure, unadulterated faggotry implies that homosexuality is explicitly involved in every instance, which seems a bit presumptuous to me...

It seems to me that Anonymous are,at least attempting, to do something positive by investigating a rape case that was dismissed under dubious circumstances.
I find that rooting for the Anti-hero in real life doesn't always work out, especially when that anti-hero is a powerful organization.

And what makes you so adamant that Anonymous is like this, have you encountered someone who claims to a be a part of them?

>>5 Anti-heroes are cool and don't tie themselves down with alignment.
Social justice warriors tend to not look at the whole picture.

Not really. Faggots and homosexuals are different, you bigot.

What makes me so adamant that anonymous is like what?
A bunch of social justice fags?

Look, as cool as anonymous thinks they are, they are nothing. What have they honestly achieved in their attempts to reopen this or any other case. They offered private information of the suspects online for any one to see if justice was not carried out. They claimed they didn't care what happened to those people who's information was going to be given because it would be justice. Here's the link to read about it. http://deadspin.com/hackers-take-over-steubenville-high-school-football-tea-5971165

Any way my point is what if these people who's information would have been leaked were beaten and hospitalized, or even worse killed. How can anonymous claim that is justice. That girl went to a party and got drunk, the second she went to the party she consented to anything happening, especially since she chose to get drunk. Hell, even I am consenting to being raped when I walk to the convenient store at night even though it's just around the corner from my house. Someone could attack me and rape me right out on the street as bad as that sounds and as unlikely as it is. Basically what I am trying to say is that if you play with fire, on average you or someone else WILL get burned and in this girls case, She Got drunk and partied and suffered the repercussions of such a life style. Too bad for her. And as for Anonymous, you guys have to remember the words of Lelouch who said. " What do you do when there is an evil that cannot be defeated by just means, do you stain your hands with evil to destroy evil, or do you remain steadfastly just even though it means surrendering to evil?" To which C.C. replied,"It doesn't matter,... because in both situations evil still exists." This quote is Oh so true, especially in Anonymous' case. They cannot become evil and say they are just. How can they even claim to want justice if what they do causes injustice. If those ass-backward clowns want to make a difference than they should become judges or police officers, not chumps hiding in a basement trying to assume power over society.

>>8 I don't really care about Anonymous either way.

But I do object to your claims that going to a party equates to consenting to anything other than going to a party, even if she did get drunk. When a person is drunk, their ability to make good decisions lessens dramatically. Therefore, I don't consider consent given while drunk to be valid.

It's also rather ridiculous to say that going into a convenience store at night means you're consenting to being raped just because it COULD happen. Someone could mug me at the store, or someone could deliberately ram my car with their big truck that won't get a scratch just because they're in a foul mood and wanted to take it out on someone, but it's not like I'm fine with that. There's no mutual agreement that those things happening would be okay (which is what consent is). I don't CONSENT to those things just because I go to the store or decide to drive somewhere. Just because you put yourself in an environment where something bad MIGHT happen doesn't mean you're okay with it happening.

>>9 I agree with Sejin, just because there is the possibility that something could happen doesn't mean that we give consent to it happening.
Things which we do not want, and things which are illegal do occur, but when illegal things do happen, and when a breach of our rights do occur institutions such as the police and the court systems have the ability and the responsibility to ensure that the people committing the illegal acts are punished and attempt to stop illegal activities from occurring if they can.
All that Daisy consented to was a party when she arrived there, and the unconsentiual sex that occurred was illegal. Even the local shierff agreed with that, which is why he arrested the boy in question.
It was the prosecution who dropped the case even though there was video evidence.

Okay first of all, What I meant is that I am aware that illegal things do happen more often at night, and that they can happen to anyone including myself, however even knowing that these things could happen, I am accepting that they may happen to me when I leave my house at night or even during the day, I am aware of those things happening yet I choose to still leave my home in spite of the risk I am taking.It is quite stupid to think that these things will not happen to myself. I realize that my example is a hyperbole, but still some of it is truth. She lost the her rights or at least many of them when she became drunk, which was also illegal on top of being out past her curfew which is also illegal. Now I do not mean directly, however if she had been sober when all this happened I can almost guarantee that she would have won her case. When one participates in illegal activity such as she, they cede they're rights, that is why they are arrested and taken to jail or prison. And I didn't mean that she consented while she was drunk, she consented to being drunk before she was drunk, which lead to everything else because as you stated ones ability to make good decisions declines greatly when drunk. The fact that she chose to drink lead eventually to her being raped, if that was the case that she was raped, because how could she remember if she was black-out drunk. That is what made her loose her case, that's the shared opinion of both myself and the authorites and judges that oversaw her case.

>>9
Actually the only reason it should be rape is if the person is under the age drinking. Otherwise it shouldn't be rape, just to say the least. It doesn't mean it's not wrong, but it's not rape.

But this person was 14, and while she chose to drink, was under the legal age at a party full of people probably the legal age and whose job it was to make sure everyone drinking was a legit age. They didn't do their job, and the 18 year old had sex with a 14 year old.

Also let us not forget, she is way passed the 2 age difference for most states and it was rape anyway.

No matter what SHE decided to do, her age alone constitutes for it being rape, given he was 18.

>>12
Well, actually, if anyone, regardless of who it is, drinks so much that they pass out then having sex them would be considered rape, as being unconscious makes a person incapable of giving consent.
And You are right, her age did make it statutory rape, but the police decided not to charge the suspect with that since he was still under twenty one. Instead they charged him with Felony Sexual Assault.

There is another aspect of this which we aren't discussing, which is the town's reaction. Which sent a lot of ill will to Daisy and her family, possibly leading to the burning of her house and exile from the town.
One of the mantra's being said was that "boys will be boys".

The Coleman's had moved to this town three years prior to the incident after Daisy's father died.

Was the town within their right, or even justified in being so angry at the Coleman's for pressing the charges against the suspect?

I think both the girl and the rapists were in the wrong. She could have made smarter choices, as in bringing a couple of other friends, although she did bring the football players, unfortunately.

I really can't say much regarding the town's reaction, because I agree that it's definitely outrageous that something like this happened, but such is life. "Life is cruel."

I believe the town was justified to press charges, but it seems strange to me that even with the video - I'm assuming they had it - they could not identify the true perpetrator.

I really hope they find the perpetrators, because that would hopefully alleviate the tension for both the rapists and the victim's family. Personally, I'd like to believe that the football players are plagued by guilt, but such is not always the case.

the actions of people have been reduced to absolute bullshit at least i know we can count on anonymous for some type of support i hope that bastard gets life or gets killed that girl has a scar that will never vanish through her life and he deserves one of equal pain that scum didn't even show remorse for his actions he deserves whats coming to him she made a stupid decision herself but that is no excuse for rape and as for a recording what kind of sick bitch would do that shit? i cant believe what people have been reduced too

Rape is bad.

The girls were stupid to do what they did, but the rapists do deserve severe punishment.

>>17 Are you sure?

I think Daisy should be apprehended for consuming alcohol as well as the football players the one who consumed liquor and the one who allegedly filmed it. Yes the rape was wrong, but the town is also at fault for what they did. It's a corrupt world we live in.

Those guys deserve to go to PRISON and see how they like to get rape. OAnd secondly that whole damn town is so stupid!!! Like they really burned down their house??? Thats ridiculess! sorry if i mispelled it but its true!!!! i under what daisy did was stupid, she shouldnt have gone but she did not desevere that, no one does.

I will not belittle Daisy for what happened to her. Even if she was intoxicated, it was still not right for the football players to take advantage of her. But q.e.d point this out, if you go to a party and plan to get drunk, you shouldn't expect things to go well. No matter who's there or what's going on.
I hope Daisy is happier in the new town she's staying in and I hope that football player gets hit by a car and gangraped in an alley.

>>2 >>4

OK, sit down, shut up, and listen fuck wits.

No matter her level of intoxication an 18 year old having sex with a 14 year old (even with consent) is rape. With consent it's statutory rape. Without it's rape. Saying that being inoxicated therefore forfites your rights to have sex wilingly is like saying that a girl walking out of a club in a miniskirt is "asking for it". If you guys want to educate yourself on real issues,for example social justice- women's rights, then I suggest you immerse yourself in the history of feminism and rape culture because rape is rape and there is no justifying it.

Oh and the above post was made by me (i forgot to type my name in)

>>23
>fuckwits
I'm actually one guy, but thanks.
Also, fuck you with your rape culture bullshit.
It's not a real thing, feminist are scum and will eventually die the fuck out.
Also, this thread isn't about what you consider real issues, like social justice, this is about a little girl who did something she shouldn't have done.
She shouldn't have been "raped" but she also should have been at her house, not drinking with older boys and acting all grown up.

I don't think it's right that a woman thinks she is equal to a man and then wants to say, "No, I was drunk I don't have to take responsibility for acting like a child and getting that drunk."
I'm not saying anyone is fucking asking for it, you fuck witted social justice faggot.
I'm just saying that everyone needs to take responsibilities for their actions.

>>26
I agree with you in the fact that people should take responsibility for their actions. She didn't have to go to the party and she didn't have to get drunk. The town shouldn't have gone and burnt her house but she shouldn't have continued to argue after she was the one who agreed to go to the party. I also hate how women always complain about being equal when most of society is most likely following them. They just cant handle a few guys checking them out.

>>26 I agree on the responsibility part. She really should not have been there in the first place, but what I was making a point to is that even if she consented it was still illegal and considered statutory rape. (If you don't know hat that means look it up). And the whole drunk chick not having to take the responsibility thing was not even what I was trying to point out.
(I swear I'm gonna have to start writing debate cases for this shit.Do you want my point 1 sub point B? Joke by the way.)
Also fuck you for not recognizing that rape culture exists in our society. Seeing as men seem to justify it with the most disgusting answers. " I bought her dinner, it was my reward"
The fact you just called feminists scum is bullshit as well. Without feminism women would not be allowed to vote and not be able to read or fight in the military or get a job or drive or do much of anything besides give you babies.
Yes, it will eventually die out but only when women are finally equals with men in all that entitles.

(also I only looked at the numbers not the names. so I legit thought you were 2 different people)

(Also, you sound like the most sexist, masogynistic asshole I have ever come accross.)and I don't even know why you called me a fat whale? like how does that even make sense dude? how? do you own pistures of me that say I am in fact the biggest mcfatty ever? for fuck sake jackass stop being a colossal dickhead and get your nose out of the almighty's ass.

>>28 This so hard.

>>28 Of course, I'm not trying to justify someone fucking a little kid. I'm just saying both parties are at fault and the majority of statutory rape laws are kind of retarded.

I have never heard a real human being say that since he bought dinner she deserved to be raped.

I'm not going to talk about why I think feminists are dumb, I have to try and stay on topic here...

I'm not trying to say that the person who had sex with Daisy shouldn't be punished.
He's an 18 year old banging a 13 year old, that's fucked up.
But I also think that we, not you and I but people in general, need to look at both sides of the issue here.
Not only is someone sleeping with someone slightly younger than he should be but both parties are drinking and acting older than they are.
We need to teach our children to be children.

I don't think that feminism will put an end to rape.
Rape is something that will always exist, as fucked as it is, it's nature in it's own disgusting right.

(don't read as me condoning rape, I know how you liberals like to twist words lololol)

I don't believe in rape culture but I do believe in party culture.
That's the issue that should be focused on, not really her rape.
Because in all reality, there is no proof that she didn't say yes.

>you sound like the most sexist, masogynistic asshole
I'm not.

>I don't even know why you called me a fat whale
...I didn't.

>get your nose out of the almighty's ass
lolwut

>>30 I never said feminism would put an end to rape. Secondly, even is she did say yes it would be statutory rape! (srsly dude. How many times do I have to say that?)

>>31
And that is where the law is fucked up.

If she said yes, or put herself in the situation, it should be lowered down to a lighter form of assault and not considered rape. That is how it SHOULD be.

>>28
No offense, but your overuse of derogatory terms in text conversation are pretty off putting, making you sound condescending and like an asshole.

Also
>"I know how you liberals like to twist words lololol"
This is the internet, anything you say can and will be used against you.

Anyways.

>>27 Your point about taking personal responsibility is important. However, we don't know how much blame the girl places on herself, we do know that the town has punished her extra-judicially for her actions by burning her house down and running her out of town.
The suspect was also punished by the media and by anonymous extra-judicially by giving him a very poor reputation. We also do not know how much blame he has placed on himself for his actions.
I don't think those are factors we should ignore.

>>33 Can't help it. I have a habit of swearing too much. Honestly I mean for my post to sound ticked off, not condescending.

>>34
Sorry, put the wrong number down. I was talking about Chreggome mostly. Your levels of swearing were acceptable by my standards.

>>35 ok, jose.

>>32 So just because she chose to put herself in the situation (going to the party), the person who raped her should get off easy? How is that fair?

Going to a party does not mean you're giving consent to anything other than going to a party. If she was sober and gave consent to have sex, then it would legally be considered statutory rape because of her age (I have some mixed feelings about this, but that's an entirely different topic so I won't go into it further). If she was drunk and gave consent to sex, then I think it should be seen legally as rape (not statutory rape). When you're drunk, your judgment is very impaired, making it pretty much impossible to make good decisions. As far as I'm concerned, consent while drunk doesn't count as consent. If the girl drank until she passed out, and then the guy had sex with her while she was passed out, that would clearly be rape. I also can't understand why someone would want to have sex with an unconscious person. Wouldn't that be incredibly boring? It's like having sex with a doll.

>>37 I agree with this completely.
The girls made poor decisions in what they did, whatever. The people who made poorer decisions are the ones who raped them and took video of it. People can say all they want that statutory rape laws are ignorant and while in most cases that would be true, it is not here.
>>8 This is just the most ignorant thing I have ever heard. If i stubbed my toe on a door frame does that mean I gave the door frame consent to mess my day up? No. There is a difference between the chance of something happening, and whether or not it is consent.
If anyone does not agree with what I stated above than that is fine. But one of the more "agreeable" issues is the town's reaction to all of this. They ostracized the coleman family. The entire town was against them for pressing charges for one of the most vile crimes out there. The girl was also pressing charges for the fact that she was left on a porch when it was lower than 30 out, but they dismissed those charges as well. This is not justice,and anonymous can never hope to bring justice. A good chunk of this town's residents behaved like total scumbags and it is completely unacceptable. If someone is unconcious it is rape, they cannot give consent while in that state. This was a sad story that got thrown out of proportion by both the town,and anonymous.Bottom line is that these girls were raped and noone did anything about it, not even the law in the town helpled. So yeah it is pretty deplorable behavior.

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