The Satanic Temple, a New York-based organization, visited Catherine Idalette Johnston's grave in Mississippi on Sunday, July 14th. The grave was that of Westboro Baptist Church's founder, Fred Phelps Jr.'s mother. The ritual being held is called "pink mass."

Satanic Temple's official, Lucien Greaves, held the ceremony with a gay and lesbian couple. Basically, they made out on her grave then Greaves put his penis on the gravestone.

"We intend to perform the pink mass for both Fred Phelps's father and great-aunt who raised him after his mother's death, but only in reply to their future pickets. The pink mass could be used to protest other anti-gay hysterics, but it is particularly appropriate when applied to Westboro," Greaves wrote.

After the ceremony, Greaves declared Johnston gay in the afterlife.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/18/pink-mass-westboro-baptist-church-gay-satanists_n_3616642.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

http://www.westboro-baptist.com/grave-site-ceremony/

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/07/satanists-perform-gay-ritual-at-westboro-gravesite/

What do you think? After what WBC has said and protested, did they deserve this? Or was this too much?

If I may be so bold, I hate Satanists, obviously, but I never really thought they were something to look at until they did this. These people are pretty amazing. *Clap Clap Cheer Cheer Flower Petal Tossing*

AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Fucking Satanists. I used to hate both equally but now I think Satanistic worship is a tad better than Westbro worship.

>>2 Amazing? Amazing?! No, this is despicable. I fully realize what the Westboro Baptist Church is like and how much hate and anger they have caused that is directed at them. However, that is no reason to do this to someone's grave. A person's grave is precious. Whether or not you hold religious beliefs, a grave holds a special place in the hearts of people who were close to the person whose grave it is. Under NO circumstance is an act like this acceptable.

To any one of you who would applaud the acts that were mentioned, how would you feel if someone did that to the grave of one of your loved ones? Seriously consider this.

If you have grievances with somebody, take them up with the person or people who you have them with. Talk. Use words. If words will not work, you may end up feeling like you have to take some action. However, an action such as this is not the solution. Doing such a thing makes you no better than the people you have grievances with, and completely invalidates any argument that you may have. No matter how much anger, hatred, or other negative emotions you may feel toward the person, this kind of thing is completely inexcusable.

I am so furious, and completely ashamed that these people and I are of the same species.

dont agree with what they did cos that shits disrespectful but the wbc had it coming
i still think its rude and all but the wbc been disrespecting the graves of soldiers for a long time so im not surprised
also guys calm down satanists arent necessarily bad it depends what kind of satanism they practise

>>4 What you are forgetting is that what this ritual did was turn an insanely homophobic bigot in this life, into a homosexual in the afterlife. With most cases I would consider this despicable, it's desecrating a place of rest. With this specific scenario however, I just kind of see it as ironic justice.

>>6 yeah if it happened to someone else id probably be mad but im not because its equal if not less than what the wbc does

I just think that it sends a message. If people that a majority of society hates are protesting against you (like KKK and satanists) then you've really fucked up. For once, I can finally say that I agree with one (only one) thing that satanists believe.

If you're satanist, no hard feelings. Just don't agree with anything that you believe in.

...it's idiots like these guys that make legally approving rights for normal LGBT people such a hard time.

Also gravestones should never be fucked up ever.

As much as I hate WBC, this whole story is just wrong on so many levels.

>>8 If I was you I would really not care if I caused offence to Satanists. Either they are gothic punks that think they have the worst life in the world and nobody gets them, or they are seriously fucked up.

>>9 If that's what is necessary to make somebody like that 'homosexual in the afterlife' I am willing to let the whole, doing it on a grave thing slide.

>>10
But...why?
Why would someone bother "making someone homosexual in the afterlife?" What the hell does that even mean? They're dead.

It's a completely futile effort on their part and it detracts worth from a very worthy cause, that being to allow gay rights everywhere in America. Do you realize that with a story like this, it gives hardcore conservatives and the like justification for their comments about how they believe "homosexuality is a sin" and "all homosexuals are being persuaded by the devil" etc?

This is not what supporters of gay rights (or may I say universal human rights) need. It will hurt far more than it will help.

>>11 The kinds of people that will jump to those conclusions over something like this will have reached them long ago. This will just be yet another excuse for them to be loud and public about it. Nobody in their sane mind (who isn't a bigot) would link the general cause of homosexuality and this incident together.

It is more of a statement, as Leigha said earlier. If one of the worlds most hated religious sects is gaining more popular approval than; and displaying their hatred towards WestBro Baptist Church, it shows that they are clearly doing something wrong.

The act I actually don't like. I would find it despicable in any other circumstance. It's more the message that it sends out that I believe truly justifies it.

>>12 If nobody, or at least a slim minority, listened to said bigots, it wouldn't be a big deal.

Past elections and personal experiences show that many do though, and whole-heartedly. That's why I'm worried.
After all, you don't have to be sane to have strength in numbers and influence.

>>13 That is a great quote actually, "you don't have to be sane to have strength" think I might save that.

Basically, Obama has already set his stance as pro-homosexual. An event like this will change little to nothing. This hasn't even made massive news, it will likely be forgotten about in a week. Westbro church will remember, however. They will remember forever.

This entire thing is just really stupid and the Westboro Baptist Church is stupid and Fred Phelp's mother is now a homosexual. That's it, really.
I don't like the idea of doing that to someones grave, but like Solace said, it's meant to send a message. Maybe the way they sent it was disrespectful, but it's already happened and we can't do shit about it so let's just appreciate how fucking ridiculous this whole thing is.

It seems to me that this ritual is basically Karma being a bitch to the deceased. This is my opinion, I am so sorry if I am offending anyone, but since the the founder of the church was homophobic and this ritual is meant to turn her into a homosexual it's basically sending a message. To me, they are trying to give an example the homophobes. Making them imagine, what if they were homosexual what then? That's the way I see it, I am not for Satanist, Agnostic and Apathiest forever. This was a disrespectful act, but I understand why they did it. Or at least I think and hope that I do

>>6 Except it wasn't him, it was his mother. I don't think they should do this to a dead woman's grave because her son is a jackass. Leave the dead alone, they're dead and can't fight back. Harass the crap out of the living, but leave the dead alone.

Just because somebody does something that you think is terrible and you hate them for it doesn't make it acceptable to "give it as you get it" so to speak. I'm going to be incredibly lame and cliche right now and remind you of the quote "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind". I really do think that quote has a lot of wisdom in it. If someone has wronged you, you can become so angry and resentful, and feel justified in doing the same to them. And then they, or the people close to them, come to feel the same way about you, and it just goes back and forth and can increase greatly in intensity and it doesn't do anybody a single damn bit of good. There is NOTHING good that comes out of that kind of thing. It just leaves everyone involved feeling hateful and resentful and spiteful and they all end up miserable.

I know it's possible for people to show even just basic respect and decency to those who they hate. In all sorts of things where you have people feeling strongly about something, many of those people feel their way is the only way, or the "right" way, and the feel superior for it, and don't feel the need to act decently toward those whose beliefs they disagree with. If they're really so "superior", they should act like it and take the high road.

I understand why people think this action by the satanists is justified, or even deserved, but I just can't agree with it.

I'm somewhat insulted by this. Put aside the grave. Put aside the fact that the dead person wasn't the protester. Put all of WBC's shit aside, and just think about what they're doing.

A ritual to make someone homosexual in the afterlife, as if it's a good thing? What in the actual fuck is this shit? I'm sorry - as much as I am willing to support the LGBT community, this is fucked up. They blatantly disrespected all straight people as well as that woman's choice to be straight. That's bullshit. I almost want the WBC to go to a gay man's grave and do a similar ceremony to make him straight just to make a goddamn point about how rude and disrespectful this is to the straight people who haven't done anything wrong.

>>14
>implying Obama or any president has enough influence to secure their stance throughout Congress

>>19
This, sort of.
I'd really be perfectly fine if the perpetrators of this and supporters of WBC both disappeared off the face of the planet.

>>17 You seriously think that this guy spawned his own incredibly hateful idea?

I think this is an issue that is completely defined by morals. Depending on how vengeful you are, how much you consider poetic justice as a, well 'justified' cause. I am a very grudge-like person, so I am often inclined towards this sort of act.

>>21
Even if this act was totally pointless?

It's not like it will stop WBC from doing what they do, and it certainly isn't helping the LGBT community out any.

I don't mind the occasional act of revenge if there's something to gain from it, but this was just stupid, and acts of stupidity should be kept to a minimum.

I don't like satanists people anyone who follows the devil gose to hell. I also think what thay did was wrong! all the WBC was doing was telling people that being gay is a sin, and it is no matter what anybody say. and that dousen't give them the right to do something like this.

>>23
Hi, BlackFagNews.
Your ID stays the same even if you wanna go Anon.

>>23 It's been a while, BFN.

>>22 Often vengeance can have it's own point. But I definitely can see how people would not approve of this, I barely do.

>>24 BlackFagNews?

>>26 We can tell by your ID, dipshit.

>>27 🐾BlackFoxNews is a news media! I am not the media therefor I am Not 🐾BlackFoxNews! im a reporter for 🐾BlackFoxNews DIPSHIT!

>>28 we still dislike you. And you are starting to be on the same crazy level as Fox and Friends.

>>29 "Before you judge me, try hard to love me"-MJ its not nice to dislike someone with out getting to know them frist. also do not compare 🐾BlackFoxNews to Fox and Friends thay are nowhere near the same.

Why is it so hard for you guys to ignore bfw

Aaaand this thread went down the toilet. I don't quite understand why you guys have to get on BFN's case every time he posts something. I understand that you think that his posts are often devoid of value, but what's the point of derailing an entire thread just to say so? It just ruins the thread. And it doesn't seem like he's going to go away as a result of you expressing your dislike of him. If it didn't happen the tenth time, or the twentieth, I doubt it will happen the hundredth. If you dislike him that much, why not make a thread about it and rant there, instead of derailing threads elsewhere on the site?

Personally, I'm indifferent when it comes to BFN. However, it irritates me when a perfectly good thread is derailed like this because you feel you have to get on his case almost every time he posts something, even though you're just saying the same things you've already said a hundred times before. So, I suggested an alternative.

All I did was acknowledge that he isn't using his username and took a lil' jab at him.

Nothing wrong with that.
>>26 and >>29 though, that was unnecessary.

>>32 I wish you were on the Dollars site saying that for me yesterday... I could have used the back up. XD Oh well...

As a LaVeyan Satanist I find what they did to be incredibly stupid and counter productive. Performing a 'ritual' like that is only going to increase the amount of ignorant people who believe that being a homosexual is somehow related to Satan.

Excuse me for asking, but I've been gone for a while. Who's BFN?

>>36 BFN, or Black Fox News, is a GodHatesFag type of wanna be troll, in that they spread the message of Christianity in such an asshole way that most members were like "Is this a troll, or is this guy for real?" At least at first.

BFN however is mostly in News, has not spread to other boards, as far as I can see.

They are also identified by the ID "ID:G+TjtCzr"

>>37 frist of all bitch im not a "wanna be troll" it's called standing out bitch! just because I don't think the way you mother fuckers do douse not make me a troll! so don't get it twisted bitch! second the "message of Christianity" thing I only do that to prove a point because you mother fuckers is stupid!

>>39 cry more.

>>40 do you know why all you can say is "cry more"? it's because your ass can't handle me. im to much for you! that's all you can say is "cry more"? really now what the hell is that XD

I think BFN should be placed along GHF on the ignore list, officially.

Any disagreements?

>>42 okay go ahead and do that cause you know you can't fuck with me any way bitch.

lol

>>42 I kinda thought that much was obvious. I haven't even known them for a full day and I'm just sitting there and scratching my heard thinking, "Why does this person even exist?" Seriously, there must be a law against being that stupid.

On a less derailing note, if this person didn't spread the hate and stupid shit that westboro did, then why they hating? That's like hating my parents because I'm asexual.

>>45 It's not like this kind of crazy, hateful religion is just thought up by one person. There is a 90% chance it has been passed down the family line. If this guy is a crazy asshole, it's quite possible their mother was even worse.

>>46 "It's not like this kind of crazy, hateful religion of Islam is just thought up by one person." your right Islam is hateful religion. unlike Christianity which teaches nothing but love, Islam teaches nothing but hate. If you understand Mohammad the founder you will see why it is hateful, here is a good introduction:
Muhammad is one of the world most influential man indeed, historians tell us Muhammad used to withdraw to a cave, spending days wrapped in his thoughts. He heard bells ringing and had ghostly visions. He thought he was demon possessed, until his wife reassured him he had become a prophet. Convinced of his status, he was intolerant of those who rejected him, assassinated those who criticized him, raided, looted, and massacred entire populations. He reduced thousands to slavery, raped, and allowed his men to rape female captives. All of this, he did with a clear conscience and a sense of entitlement. He was magnanimous toward those who admired him, but vengeful toward those who did not. He believed he was the most perfect human creation and the universe's raison d'être. Muhammad was no ordinary man. Islam is Muhammadanism. Muslims worship and emulate Muhammad. Only by understanding him can one know what makes them tick. Muhammad had a loveless childhood. He then passed to the care of relatives who took pity on him and spoiled him. As the result he developed narcissistic personality disorder, a trait that made him a megalomaniac bereft of conscience. Muhammad believed in his own cause. Even when he lied, he felt entitled and justified to do so. Thanks to another mental illness, namely temporal lobe epilepsy, the prophet of Islam had vivid hallucinations he interpreted as mystical and divine intimations. He also suffered from obsessive compulsive disorder, causing his fixations on numbers, rituals and stringent rules. In the addition, he suffered from acromegaly, a disease caused by excessive production of a growth hormone resulting in large bones and odd facial features. The combination of his psychological disorders and his unusual physiognomy made him a phenomenon that set him apart from ordinary people. His uneducated followers interpreted his differences as signs of his prophethood. Like devotees of all cults, they rose to champion his cause with dedication. By defying death and butchering others they made Islam the world's second largest religion, now the biggest threat to world peace.

>>45 Why does this person even exist? mabey you should ask God why I exist hes the one who made me.

God gives the wheat, he does not bake the bread.

>>47 Woooow, that's just sad. You added words to what you quoted that weren't there to begin with, and then went off on something that's completely unrelated to this thread. And I have absolutely no clue what point you were trying to make. I don't know the stories of Muhammad, so I have no idea if what you said about his various physical and psychological abnormalities is accurate (maybe someone who is more knowledgeable could state counterpoints to what is inaccurate, if anything). I do know that it's incredibly naive to completely denounce one of the big three monotheistic religions as all bad, yet hold another one up as all good. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all have the same roots. All three have many, many contradictions within their teachings. To believe otherwise is to remain willfully ignorant.

Speaking of willful ignorance, I would argue that that is a much bigger threat to world peace than any one religion. Within any religion (or any group of people, for that matter), you will always have people who are more open and accepting of others outside their group, and those who are very unaccepting and demeaning of those who are outside their group. The ones who demean the out-group are usually the ones who piss everyone else off because they're often too narrow-minded to even recognize their own ignorance. Again, this goes for people in any group, not just religion.

I would argue that the biggest threats to world peace are (not necessarily in order of importance): 1) Willful ignorance of what is different from what you know; 2) Lack of tolerance for difference (you can tolerate something even if you dislike it or disagree with it); 3) Being unwilling to take the time to understand oneself and others; 4) Being judgmental. There are probably more I could think of, but that's just what I got off the top of my head.

Sejin, ignore them.

>>50 Solace sead "It's not like this kind of crazy, hateful religion is just thought up by one person" he sead religion but he didn't say which religion. that's why I added that in there.

Something that everyone here seems to have completely missed is that this isn't Satanism.

The actual ritual is from Satan Worshipping.

Yes, there is a difference.

>>53 This might be annoying but what is the difference?

>>51 I typically do ignore many of their posts, but the one I responded to had things that interested me (such as the stories about Muhammad) that I would be curious to hear about from others.

>>52 In the context of this thread, it could have been one of two possibilities: either the Westboro Baptist Church's brand of Christianity or Satanism. Islam is neither of those. So, again, I still have no idea what point you were trying to make.

>>53 What's the difference? I don't mean that as a challenging statement. I'm genuinely curious. Please expound on it for me. Also, thanks for bringing up something that is not only relevant to this thread, but is something I hadn't heard of before. :)

The reason that there is a difference between Satanism and Satan Worshipping is because Satanism is an umbrella term that covers religions involving Satan.

The most common for of Satanism is LaVeyan Satanism, which was created in 1966 by Anton Szandor LaVey. Who is also the same man who wrote the Satanic Bible.

In LaVeyan Satanism, Satanists actually don't regard Satan or Lucifer as their own deity themselves. They actually don't accept Satan as existing altogether, and by extension, they don't accept the Christian God as existing.

LaVeyan Satanists believe that the being Satan is actually an energy that exists within the world. An energy that represents certain things.

The Nine Satanic Statements:

1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!

2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!

3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!

4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!

5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!

6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!

7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!

8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!

9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!

In Satan Worshipping, followers essentially replace the Christian God with Satan. They also add certain aspects to the religion such as different rituals and prayers.

Another common misconception is the various symbols that people often mistake for Satanism and Satan worshipping.

In Satan Worshipping the symbol used is called the Sigil of Lucifer and the symbol used to represent Satanism is called the pentagram or pentacle.

It should also be noted that the pentacle only represents Satanism when the two points are pointing upwards. When the two points are pointing downwards it is a symbol of protection of Neopaganism.

I hope this made enough sense for you guys to be able to distinguish the difference since I didn't really set up my paragraphs and points properly. :P

>>56 That was very informative. Thanks for elaborating for us!

>>23 But isn't telling someone is going to hell make you sound like God and having a God complex means disrespecting him/me which makes you go to hell?

>>48 Sorry I was drunk when I made you

Samefag?

Yuhp >>61 >>58 >>59 are the same.

>>56 Satanism gives its allegiance to Satan, while at the same time some in the church of satan believe no God or Satan truly exists. most of the church of satan also believes that there is no redeemer for them or anyone else. each person is fully responsible for the path of his own life. but then they turn around and pray to Satan in rituals, asking for his sovereign hand to be manifested in their lives. this kind of thinking is characteristic because of the influence of lies and deceptions throughout their philosophy. In light of this, some Satanists don’t believe in the Satan of the bible because he was a fallen angel—and who wants to follow a loser? the best lie Satan ever told was that he didn’t exist, and his interest is in turning people away from christ. whether they believe in him or not is actually irrelevant to him, as long as the end result is the same—their souls in bondage to him in hell.In short, Satanism while it may be worshiping Satan, is a conscious effort to NOT worship the one true real God. Romans 1 gives a clear look into the heart and motives of a Satanist. They have “depraved minds to do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness” (vv 28-29). People who have been misled by Satan into this lifestyle have a hard time understanding God’s concept of grace and freedom. Instead, they live for themselves, by themselves. Their identity is shaped by the events and seeming lofty ideologies of their contemporaries rather than in the truth of the ageless and forever true God.
Second Peter 2 contains a warning to anyone who would follow after Satanism or any other thing rather than God: “These men are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of sinful human nature, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error. They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity”

>>58 no >>59 Galatians 6:7 Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.

Jesus vs Satan:

Satan
Purpose: Lead people into rebellion.
Methods: Tell people lies.
Motivation: Hate.
Followers experience: Sexual immorality, impurity, debauchery, idolatry, witchcraft hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, envy, drunkenness, orgies.
Following leads to: Enslavement to sin.

Jesus
Purpose: Lead people to salvation.
Methods: Tell people the truth.
Motivation: Love.
Followers experience: Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.
Following leads to: Freedom from sin.

>>64 Actually following Jesus leads you to enslavement by god.

Also, Satan sounds waaaaay more fun.
I'd rather be a doped up, sexually depraved, drunkard than on my knees blowing some faggot Jew.

Eat shit, BFN.
In case you didn't know, I'm the troll around here.
You are taking attention and time away from me.
I am declaring war on you, and you are going to have a very bad time.

>>65 Oh, man. Thanks for the laugh. I needed that today.

>>62 Okay, so what about Judaism? Judaism predates Christianity. Jews don't believe that Satan exists. They don't believe in hell, or the concept of sin that is part of Christianity. They believe that Jesus was a prophet, but not the son of god. Are they going to hell simply because they don't believe the same things you do? Lest you forget, Jesus was Jewish.

>>65 "I am declaring war on you, and you are going to have a very bad time" Oh no im so scared whet ever will I do! XD fine I accept but this will be over before it even starts because everybody knows you won't do anything. lol

>>67
"everybody knows you won't do anything."
>implying he won't
>implying you will

lol

>>66 "Are they going to hell simply because they don't believe the same things you do?" yes.

>>67 I've been doing it.
So are other people.

Dude, you're toast. :I
I give you another four weeks before the plague and the flood drives you out of here.
It's not like we haven't done it before.
You're just prolonging the inevitable, bruh.

We are going to poop all over your mouth, your nose, and your eyes, bruh.

>>70 *yawn* talk talk talk that's all your doing. I won't leave so easily.

Still God here.
>>71 How am I mocking myself.

Still God here.
>>71 How am I mocking myself.

Still God here.
>>71 How am I mocking myself.

>>74 your not god ass hole!

>>75 And you're not sassy. Just useless, right now.

>>76 I am anything but useless.

You're all so stupid. Will you guys stop arguing on this thread and derailing it?

BFN. Your existence is pointless. Please, just stop existing and drop off the face of the earth, immediately.

Reggie. Stop arguing with BFN. You're being just as annoying as they are at the moment, and I kind of want you to drop off the face of the earth as well because you're encouraging it.

Whoever's trolling BFN, you're just derailing this thread further. Please stop. Go argue in a saged thread of the RTT. Not here. I'm sick of this being bumped when over half this thread isn't even on topic.

Satanists don't worship Satan. They have some sick belief of doing things only for themselves and survival to the fittest.

I believe everything on topic that needs to be noted already has unless you guys want to discuss your opinions on the topic. Remember, this has to stay ON TOPIC!

If we ignore BFN, they'll get bored and shut up.

I know that Satanism isn't about glorifying Satan, but I've still found it a bit distasteful.

>>80 What ever, faggot.

I'm trying to have a little fun and you're shitting all over it.

What ever, Lei.
I'm out.

>>80>>82 Haha just kidding.

I do what I want.

I'm going to continue to do as I want regardless of how annoying you think it is.

>>80 "BFN. Your existence is pointless" (BFN), also known as 🐾BlackFoxsNews is a cable news channel owned by the BlackFox Entertainment Group. As of April 2009, the channel was available to 102 million households in the United States and to viewers internationally, broadcasting primarily from its New York studios. The channel was created by Australian-American media mogul Jolissa Harrison who hired former NBC executive Nosirrah Davis as its founding CEO. It launched on October 7, 1996, to 17 million cable subscribers. It grew during the late 1990s and 2000s to become the dominant cable news network in the United States. Critics have stated that 🐾BlackFoxsNews Channel promotes conservative political positions and biased reporting. Commentators, news anchors, and reporters at 🐾BlackFoxsNews Channel have responded that news reporting and political commentary operate independently of each other and have denied any bias in news reporting. it's existence is not pointless.

Someone didn't read their copypasta all the way through. lol

>>80 "Satanists don't worship Satan" Satanism is the worship of satan aka the devil. It is evil and it does involve worshipping the devil. Satanists believe that Satan is all powerful and superior to God. It is evil to practice this thay also have Satanic ritual abuse sometimes known as ritual abuse, ritualistic abuse, organised abuse, sadistic ritual abuse and other variants. SRA involved reports of physical and sexual abuse of individuals in the context of occult or Satanic rituals. SRA involves children which were abducted or bred for sacrifices, pornography and prostitution. now if you don't think this is evil then your stupid.

Actually, the "basic" Satanism isn't about recognizing Satan as a superior identity to God, but about recognizing the human as most important identity. It's about placing in the first place the basic needs of the human instead of following the Christian Path.
It's about not being under any divinity, being the "perfect creature" itself because a human is capable to break his own records.
The basic Satanism it's an egocentric idea of living: them there are a lot of shades of Satanism, like the Black Satanism which is more like Satan's credo (still not a violent one).
The (sadly) most well known shade of Satanism is the Anarchic one, or Rebellious: which is about a load of dark and distasteful crap that has little (or none) sense.

I've read it in the Italian page of "Satanism" on Wikipedia. (you don't have to be a genius for googling a word, but reading the article is also important, you know!)

>>88 Well said.

>>88 your stupid.

Da fuck is going on in this thread?

Yeah, sure, I'm stupid. I might be not the most intelligent identity in the world, but I've spent time on writing some information in a language that isn't my first one and I've got a "well said" as answer, so now i feel proud and no insult can get me down. I'm surely less bigot as you, Sassy.
I am Catholic and i believe in God: this not implies that i know only about my own religion, having a more or less expanded general culture isn't forbidden to Christians, but you seem not knowing it.
So, I might be stupid, but you're ignorant.

Back to OP. Personally I think that performing rituals on dead people is quite unrespectful, no matter what religion...

Oh. It's *you're stupid.

"I've got a "well said" as answer, so now i feel proud and no insult can get me down. I'm surely less bigot as you, Sassy." says the Scumbag. XD

Yeah yeah sure darling, whatever you say.

AGAIN BACK TO OP.

Even if this episode meant to be a major provocation, it's still very distasteful, and offensive. There are a lot of other ways to express indignation against homophobia, but what happened it's still quite cruel. Why picking up on the death people?
The idea i had when I read this article was "they want to justify a totally indecent episode by relating Satan to it, but by doing this they are also giving the wrong meaning of homosexuality."

Going to stop pretending to be a god now just for you >>96
Only because you are great.

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I see this as nothing more than a hateful, spiteful act in which they are stooping to the level of an immature child... while it is technically a form of protest... it is in the wrong direction. This will defitily show how serious they are but... it won't make anyone think twice.. it will only cause controversy and hatred. The mean good I can see that... but their methods are too extreme. How do they think they will gain respect defiling graves. If someone has an opinion other than mine I would like to hear it. I feel like I may be missing a piece of this picture.

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This thread could go to hell in my opinion but BUUUMMMPPPP

Bump, to promote the discussion of actual news.

Thank you, BBS, for showing me the.... Oddest stuff I have ever come across.

While I DO NOT like WBC, this... I just couldn't agree with. I understand what they were protesting, but this was just ridiculous. A) I have a huge problem with anyone who does not respect the dead, let alone where they are buried. And B) this was just childish. And.... Really weird. I'm all for gay rights and whatnot, but.... Just.... Why? Whyyyy?

>>112 has a point. The WBC are a bunch of assholes who use religion to excuse all of the hateful things they do. But that's no reason to disrespect someone's grave.

>>111 That moment when someone sticking his penis on a gravestone classifies as "actual news".

Seriously?! At a gravestone, that's just disrespectful to the deceased. Especially to the WBC who are doing such hateful things.

Nah-uh! That's not true!

They will turn to chaos..

Lol'd.

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I thought this was clever and rather funny at first read, but of course the ulterior motives make this less amusing, if you give a shit.

It's rather clear now that attacking the WBC, an established hate community with way too much publicity and activity given their small size, will just net you cheap publicity in the other direction. People will flock to your side because you're the enemy of their enemy, who they decided was their enemy without much cause but public opinion.

So you're getting attention for defaming a group that warrants no attention, and receives all of it. It's cheap and perpetuating, and only serves to further cement in the minds of the public that the WBC is a thing that exists, a thing to talk about and whine about incessantly like it'll do a damned thing.

It's to that point that now, other previously-defamed groups are starting to jump on the pandering bandwagon, and people are taking sides without it being necessary. I read a few replies to this post here alone - things along the lines of "I don't pay much attention to satanists, but this was really cool of them!" more or less admit that the publicity stunt worked wonders.

I don't mind these stories, cynical perspective or not, but I'd much rather people didn't develop opinions hinging solely on the story and none of their own thoughts. That's how you spread ignorance.

i agree that it was funny at first but they fact that they were serious made me wonder why go out of the way in such a pointless way, OK so they get 5 seconds of attention but no long term success is going to come from this stunt. at the same time not much else they could do to support their gay rights / satanist agenda i suppose other than build their fellowship which will happen from this but only marginally most likely. well whatevs , just some thoughts on the subject.

Oh my Misha, this is great!

when we thought that the world was beginning to sway and take control out these gay fucking and throw everything and besides gays are satanic, well you have to respect the taste of others are just as individualistic beliefs and therefore it is problem them.
but in my opinion this should be as it were "being censored"

>>122 Oh my Misha, this is disrespectful!

"Greaves declared Johnston gay in the afterlife." fail

The wbc must of shit them self over this i love it