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Obama Care. Just wait to see what happen in 2013 & 2014! (16)

1 Name: KeiKei~Chan : 2013-05-11 09:00 ID:i+Gq3q+C [Del]

This was sent to me in an email by an adult friend of mine. This blew my mind, and I wasn't sure, but I felt this should be posted here.

"Age 76 Today, I went to the Dr. for my monthly B12 shot that I have been getting for a number of years. The nurse came and got me, got out the needle filled and ready to go then looked at the computer and got very quiet and asked if I was prepared to pay for it. I said no that my insurance takes care of it.
She said, that Medicare had turned... it down and went to talk to my Dr. about it. 15 minutes later she came back and said, she was sorry but they had tried every-thing they could but Medicare is beginning to turn many things away for seniors because of the projected Obama Care coming in. She was brushing at tears and said, "Some day they too will get old", I am so very sorry!!
Please for the sake of many good people. . . ..be informed please."

And then he goes on to explain all of this, which my dad said he had heard about on Fox News and another station too, so although I don't have a website source, that should be good enough. I'm sure you could find it if you researched. Anyway, here it is:

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE THIS...
At age 76 when you most need it, you arenot eligible for cancer treatment
* see page 272
What Nancy Pelosi didn't want us to know until after the healthcare bill was passed. Remember she said, "We have to pass the Bill so that we can see what's in it." Well, here it is.
Obama Care Highlighted by Page Number
THE CARE BILL HB 3200
JUDGE KITHIL IS THE 2ND OFFICIAL WHO HAS OUTLINED THESE PARTS OF THE CARE BILL.
Judge Kithil of Marble Falls, TX - highlighted the most egregious pages of HB3200
Please read this....... especially the reference to pages 58 & 59

JUDGE KITHIL wrote:
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Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally.

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Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.

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Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN).

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Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)

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Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees.

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Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.

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Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.
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Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years. (Death counseling..)

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Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.

HAD ENOUGH???? Judge Kithil then goes on to identify:

"Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress.
Honorable David Kithil of Marble Falls , Texas

All of theabove should give you the ammo you need to oppose Obamacare. Please send this information on to all of your email contacts.

2 Name: sleepology !CHs4eVJ3O2 : 2013-05-11 10:31 ID:/paKCtOX [Del]

Because its easier to blame healthcare reform rather than the companies deciding to gouge people for munnies

3 Name: MKOLLER !YYk5m0jo12 : 2013-05-11 12:22 ID:rABMTnOC [Del]

Shut the fuck up. This thread is pointless and incredibly ill-informed.

- For starters, only a small number of states in the US even allow end-of-life orders. I say allow because apparently you have no idea what an end-of-life order is. THIS is an example of an end-of-life order.

- The reason the federal government is pushing end-of-life counseling in the first place is because of how brutally expensive dying is. Compare living at a residence versus living in a retirement home, for example. If you collapse in a residence, you either die and leave your family a $3500 funeral bill (unless you were smart enough to get life insurance), or have an ambulance come get you and that's a $2500-$4000 bill EACH TIME. These bills are then paid for either by the patient's family or by the government itself. Point being, STUBBORN ELDERLY INDIVIDUALS NEED TO ACT THEIR FUCKING AGE AND BE RESPONSIBLE ABOUT THEIR MEDICAL FINANCES. It's that simple. It has nothing to do with telling people to "just die already."

- It makes sense to have an age-based care system. Tell me how it's fair for the young to die so the old can live a little longer and then die as well?

- You're an idiot if you think that "All doctors will be paid the same." What the US Gov is going to do is adopt the same Pay Grade System they use for federal and state employees. Those with less experience/education will be put in a lower income bracket which increases with experience level/education level. What this does is stop private practices and for-profit facilities from arbitrarily charging 2x-3x for the same kinds of treatment. The Pay Scale will probably look similar to this.

- With the union thing, it means that all unions will have to contract out to this program to ensure coverage of union members. This is a GOOD thing, as unions currently aren't required to do so. My father works for the state of California and we get health coverage through his union. If the union takes that away, then thousands of people will be screwed because they will no longer have health insurance. Again, tell me how that's fair.

- The government (and most collections agencies) already have the right to access to your bank statements, to ensure you don't skip out on payments (not just to healthcare but to other high-cost services as well). This honestly isn't as big a deal as you think; it just means you need to be more careful because you can accidentally bounce a check by not knowing when a transaction has been made. It does NOT mean the government is going to take all of your money at their leisure.

- The bill was written to include illegal immigrants again for a GOOD REASON. If you recall in the 2012 election, there was a lot of discussion over the problem with emergency rooms in this country. As it is now, you get treated regardless of if you can pay, and since most illegals cannot pay this prevents them from collapsing our current system entirely.

- Finally, it sounds to me like the 76 year old you were talking about didn't have health insurance at all. To be clear, MEDICARE IS NOT INSURANCE. (Medicare Part D is but you have to contract out for it alongside a private carrier like AARP). What Medicare is, is a tax based funding pool that you pay into every month you work, much like Social Security. The government then apportions those funds as they see necessary, and since this individual had been receiving high cost medications for years, the Dept. of Health/Human Services probably figured he overused. It's that simple.

THIS IS NOT OBAMACARE'S FAULT. IT'S MEDICARE'S FAULT AND THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOREVER.

You have no idea what you are talking about. GTFO until you do.

4 Name: Magnolia : 2013-05-11 18:30 ID:ls11t/Os [Del]

>>1 THIS IS WHY I TELL YOU ALL TO PROVIDE A GOD DAMN ARTICLE.

I don't care if so-and-so says he saw it on Fox News, not only is that not evidence of your claim but of all the stations it was Fox News, and they've been in hot water for years now.

I'm not only saying provide articles in your thread for US.

I'm also saying, you have to look up sources so YOU know what the hell you're talking about as well.

So don't be lazy next time. If you looked it up, this thread wouldn't exist.

5 Name: binKa !FtvrRDgvH. : 2013-05-12 03:04 ID:M9ZUXCEq [Del]

If this is true this is so unfair! TT^TT

6 Name: Reggie : 2013-05-12 05:22 ID:DAsg6Yf+ [Del]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/kithil.asp

FOX NEWS! THE MOST RELIABLE NEWS SOURCE SINCE THE BIBLE!

Just kidding, OP is a ill-informed faggot.
Pls eat dirt.

7 Name: Reggie : 2013-05-12 05:22 ID:DAsg6Yf+ [Del]

>a ill-informed

Oh god, what have I done?

8 Name: Magnolia!2ipznOcc5g : 2013-05-12 05:57 ID:ls11t/Os [Del]

>>7 LOL

9 Name: Yatahaze !E/8OvwUzpY : 2013-05-12 08:12 ID:ooER2eH+ [Del]

>>3
This so hard. We love you, MK.

>>4, >>6/>>7
and these too.

OP, you're a faggot. Stop encouraging ignorance in my country.

10 Name: Magnolia : 2013-05-12 08:29 ID:ls11t/Os [Del]

Guyz.

Guyz.

GUYZ.

Stop, okay? They get the point.

And Yata, you bumped this. what the hell bro? What. The. Hell.

11 Name: Yatahaze !E/8OvwUzpY : 2013-05-12 09:29 ID:ooER2eH+ [Del]

Shit, thought I had saged it. Was on mobile, maybe it didn't acknowledge my checkmark. My bad.

12 Name: Hanami : 2013-05-15 06:48 ID:sqw+j0fQ [Del]

Regardless on one's opinion on US federal policy, is all this rage really necessary?

13 Post deleted by user.

14 Post deleted by user.

15 Name: Magnolia : 2013-05-15 07:54 ID:ls11t/Os [Del]

>>12 Let me try again. That was too harsh.

What you just said had already been said right here ---> >>10

So no need to repeat. No need to bump. Because bumping this topic might just get people raging again. The only difference is, you would be the new target.

So let's just let this die, okay? Okay.

16 Name: L !KgP8oz7Dk2 : 2013-05-15 09:56 ID:GwyQPCDJ [Del]

>>15
I think I love you...