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Malaysian corrupt elections (7)

1 Name: Solace : 2013-05-08 20:02 ID:0A0Ia1lT [Del]

Now this is actually an interesting subject, the thread on it previously was done extremely poorly however. Therefore, I am remaking it.

The corrupt current Malaysian political system is for the first time in its history, being seriously challenged. It is the longest running in power political party in human history and has rooted itself within the economy, police, people and military.

The oppisition is campaigning for a clean government. Sponsered by a horde of overseas investors and with Anwar Ibrahim as its leader, this political party may have seriously changed the odds and gained a real chance.

The public coverage this event is recieving is seriously helping the anti-corruption party but it may be to full blown and ingrained to expose every official and 'clean out' the country.

Link is here:
http://www.channel4.com/news/malaysia-elections-the-vote-to-stamp-out-corruption

2 Name: Magnolia : 2013-05-09 05:27 ID:ls11t/Os [Del]

>>1 Good ob and thanks.

It certainly is a new era, but see how close Malaysia is to China. I'd be pretty hard for them not to get whiff of this news. It's not just Malaysia, many eastern and north Asian countries got problems with corruption in their government too.
What if this sets uf an eastern Asia version of "Arab Spring"?

3 Name: Solace : 2013-05-09 07:14 ID:1ch2DcqA [Del]

Sorry, more current developments,
The election actually ruled in the corrupt parties favour despite the obvious fraudulent voting system. The leader of the opposition Anwar Ibrahim has come out publicly claiming the election was rigged and requesting his supporters to conduct protests to gain media attention.

Over 40,000 supporters showed up to a stadium he had organised where he addressed them about the corruption he felt "They as a people had a duty to end" but the Ruling Party claims that it was the will of the people and asks him to take the lose gracefully.

Despite the obvious rigged vote, America has been careful not to get too involved within the situation, instead saying "We note concerns regarding reported irregularities in the conduct of the election, and believe it is important that Malaysian authorities address concerns that have been raised." Which is basically 'solve it on your own'.

More and more legitimate evidence is coming to light however with multiple electorates saying that the voting system was "Seriously marred" with many flaws.

You can find the aftermath article here:
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1764576/Malaysias-opposition-calls-for-nationwide-protest

4 Name: Ria : 2013-05-09 19:51 ID:pR+wGw+D [Del]

Of course there are two sides to every story. The current political party in power had been up there too long but it is still not all out rejected by the Malaysian population. Roughly the support is 50:50 between the party in power and the opposition. So while there is uproar about the voting system being corrupted, there are also many who said that it isn't. For example the issue of blackout during the count of votes at some places where there were too small difference between the votes for BN (the party in power) and PR (the opposition). They said PR was winning and then there was no electricity and when the light was back on, BN was winning. But there were people who refuted these claims by saying that they were at the places where they counted the votes, and there was no blackout whatsoever. And the company supplying electricity also confirmed that there was no blackout. Whether at all of the places where they claimed there was blackout or at some places, I do not know, but I can say that while it may not be totally untrue, it is definitely not totally true either.

Here is a link about the experience of a person who volunteered during the voting day. http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=367859909993058&set=a.102631823182536.5134.100003071560382&type=1 Many people alienated the SPR who was responsible for the whole voting process, saying they were corrupted. But as I said there were to side to every coins.

5 Name: Solace : 2013-05-12 10:36 ID:1ch2DcqA [Del]

>>4
Yeah it's certainly hard not to make biased oppinions based on what the media has been currently feeding you, sometimes I forget to dig past the first three things I read about a story. Partly I also try to avoid doing that kind of thing out of the risk of turning into a "MEDIA LIES ILLUMINATI 911" kind of nut.

Despite this however, within Mayalsia there has been growing public outroar about the election with people being quoted (as it says in the second article) to say "This is not what the people wan't!". Also, the fact that with not only the allegations of illegal activity held within the government, but also that they are the longest in power political party in history has got me ringing some bells.

It has received suprisingly not much media coverage. My guess would be it's either not juicy enough, doesn't display a first world country as a campaigning hero or isn't localised enough for major networks to really give a shit. Still curious to how it will turn out and if the party will indeed be forcibly ousted.

6 Name: Ria : 2013-05-13 07:14 ID:pR+wGw+D [Del]

So does Singapore, right? I mean one party ruling the country since independence. I guess it is not juicy enough is because despite corruption, Malaysia like Singapore, has been doing well economically and development-wise. It is not like Egypt or Nigeria and the uproar had not been bloody, hordes of people die like in Syria. And Malaysia did have some great leaders, again like Singapore. They are not famous internationally since they were considered as 'dictators' by some, but they were good. Not the current leader of Malaysia though. Malaysia is doing good economically, better than it had ever been before, but I doubt it is because of the current Prime Minister, Najib Tun Razak. It is more because of Malaysia is in Asia and Asia is rising economically. Plus with the fact that the economic system in Malaysia has been good, Malaysia manage to harness the advantage of its geographic and economic location.

I think there may be change of political party in power in the future but not through coup de etat or anything bloody like that. It will be through the next election or the next two. That is if BN is so stupid it does not do anything with the second chance given to it. I don't know, some people are just stupid. When it was obvious that people were sick of seeing one-sided propaganda for BN on mass and printed medias, heck, they still did exactly that. People would like BN better if they don't hog the TV so much. As if people cannot go to the Internet.

And yes, media is [insert negative adjective].

7 Name: Solace : 2013-05-13 10:04 ID:1ch2DcqA [Del]

>>6 mmmm yeah from what I have seen the oppisition is attempting to go about it very peacefully and diplomatically. However, there will always been psychopaths that feel the need to take it to the next level.