I don't know if many of you know the laws regarding same sex marriage, but if you don't allow me to educate you:
-If you are in the military and you have a "partner" ,unlike straight couples, you cannot be stationed at the same base.
-If you have a "partner" and they are hospitilized, you have little to no visitation rights.
-If your "partner" dies you are not next of kin. Unless they have a will ,under some states, you get nothing.
-Some states don't allow gay couples to adopt.
-Some states condone hate crimes against gays.
the list goes on. So if you do not agree with same sex marriage think about this: What if you were in our shoes?

http://family.findlaw.com/marriage/same-sex-marriage
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_law_in_the_United_States_by_state

It's not fair at all! Just because you're the both males or both females you don't get the same rights? stupid laws eventually don't last long.

This country was supposed to be for the free! What happened?!
Stupid laws!

No, it's not fair that gays don't get the same treatment as straights. That may be changing, however, if the Supreme Court makes the right decision and strikes down the Defense of Marriage Act that recently came under question. If I were in their shoes, I would do the same thing the gays of California did and argue my case all the way to the Supreme Court to get the rights that all in this country are entitled to.

Now can we get to actual news instead of the rehash of complaints that have been addressed multiple times under more legitimate stories?

If a woman and a man can get together with no repercussions, than why can't people of the same sex do so. They are basically punishing people for loving someone. I think something definitely needs to be done.

I posted this because most people didn't know about the other laws. Most think it's just our marriage that there's a law against, but it's also the things that come with marriage, the "rights". In fact, I didn't know this until recently, and to me, someone who is bisexually and who might possibly be a lesbian, it really hurts. I wanted to get into the military after high school..but now..

marriage was originally created in terms of religion to unite man and women in eternal bonds of trust and loyalty i see no reason to whine about a tradition which has ALWAYS been this way but a more valid argument to look over the rights again i find alot unfair but a few reasonable such as marriage and for millitary service your there for a job not to have fun with your husband/wife if you wanna whine do so to the government sighn a pottition whatever just think logically for once how would it effect everything? i have to do this all day every day think from all veiws not just your own it breaks alot of traditions but alot of traditions go against diffrence due to fear how will it effect children? religious belief? structure? the population? everything is effected

its not right to judge so why must we judge one another if you use a combonation of logic, analysis, reveiw and eventually create a substantial argument from both sides theres rarely reason to argue about anything its more childish than effective create an argument and use it against who it counts against instead of forcing your opinions on everyone so we can get to more important issues because anyone with a brain knows its not about love or rights that are rarely given gender or sexuality im pansexual who cares it doesn't play in the big scheme of things

Please note some of us dont live in america, but I dont understand why this is such a big deal anyway, you love a person? they love you back? Why the fuck cant you get with them?

>>10
Because its Murika. Nothing but assholes making our rules.

true if you love someone there's no reason you shouldn't be with them actually i hope you are with them but you have to keep other things in mind to be with someone dosnt mean you have to marry them you can be just as happy without petition the rights they even have a damn site for it america land of the free allows immigration if you have more strict issues petition the rights get about 100,000 people to sign the petition heck there might even be another up tell friends about it share it on Facebook, twitter, you tube, personal thread on the dollars site,etc. places where people might run into it just dont force it upon others i come to this section specifically for news and i dont see how people whining about gay rights is any new's at all

Thats the longest run-on i've ever seen.

Dam, your right.

It's all because America is going against themselves. They won't allow same sex marriage to happen in certain states (Which is a lot of states) because of someone's religion. My history teach always told me in the American Government, you have to accept the good with the bad. These church going, holly rollers need to realize what country they're living in.

Your religion tells you to NOT marry someone of the samesex. But if your not that religion, then you don't do that. So in a way, the Government isn't being fair in this same sex marriage thing. They're choosing to satisfy the church goers who's religion tells them to not marry the same sex. Yet, we have the right of free religion, so what if one makes you have marry the same sex? You'd have to eventually let it happen then.

Damn 'Murica.

>>15 This happened a lot through history, first with African American Rights, then Women's Rights, now we are working on Gay Rights. But I totally agree with you about the religion thing, even through America is supposed to have a separation between church and state it seems like it doesn't exist as much as it should. They should just pass the freaking bill so they can get married, I have a few people in my life who love the same sex and I'm getting tired of all this political crap. Seems like we are almost there, 50% or more of politicians agree with same sex marriage finally!

What I don't understand is, they're loving someone, they're not hurting anyone, and honestly, if your God/gods say it's not OK, THEN YOU DON"T HAVE TO!

>>17 Some people are just trying to push their ideals onto other people and yes it sucks.

Fuck the world! :D

I think that sweet~:3

Separate is not equal. Get that memorized damn it. No one should have the ability to stop a entire group of people from getting married because its not ok in your bible. Your bible isn't the constitution of the United States.
(I might have been a bit angry when posting this, long day.)

>>16 Yeah, true that. But one thing that makes me a bit more mad that if you concentrate on this long enough, the Government is breaking the "sacred ruling" of their own damn country. No government nor state of America is allowed to enact their own choice religion on their citizens, nor can they promote it and give preference to other religions.

The reason that other 50% isn't agreeing, is because they are trying to enforce their own religion on the whole people. Just goes to show you that our lovely politicians and "great" Congress is always contradicting itself, and not letting the people know about it.

>>22 what's funny is the reason why they agree with it now. It is because a family member came out and admitted they were gay.

Studies show that almost 90% of all gay peoples are hurt straight people. Sad but true.

>>25 *You're

I think we should just come up with a new thing identical to marriage. It won't be marriage, but it'll be the same idea/concept only for homosexuals/trans/etc.

I respect that people think marriage is a tradition between a male and a female, but if we aren't followers of that religion there's no reason for us to follow it, personally. Go 'Murica, land of the free all right.

>>30
They wouldn't agree to that suggestion.

>>31 Oh, well it was just an idea :/

one of my teachers is gay, and he was in the military. afterwards, he found his spouse and fell in love. he then proceded to get MARRIED in a CHURCH! i see his as a super cool guy, and i fully support gay marrage. i find it repulsive that so many people are homophobes.

>>31
Something like that exists in our country - it's called Registered Partnership but still it doesn't give us the right to have children unless we literally have it by having sex with a person of the same sex. + it still involves some dubious things about what would happen if one of the partners dies...

Marriage is becoming more political then religious nowadays, the prove is that some contries are allowing gay-marriage. In the religious POV it should be never allowed, because is wrong, not the way that god made it, and bla bla bla...

>>35 Thats the thing though, thats not even true.
I'm not sure when Marrige became symbolic but it was originaly sort of a broker agreement. It is written in the bible that marrige is used for the exchange of livestock, dowrys and women.

>>35 well... as an atheist I can ignore Bible or Koran or any other "holly book" but still get legaly married (and divorced too) so arguments like religion are kinda off. Anyway marriage is settled between 2 people to make one unique bond, and of course to be able to share and inherit things and money if one of them dies. More - there are dozens of "normal" couples who can´t have kids and noone gives a fuck about them so what´s the difference with gays/lesbians?

>>37 The thing is, our political policy on gay marriage has actually been largely because of religious practice. The argument isn't new by any means, and was shot-down the last time it approached the supreme court not because it was scientifically unstable, not because it was an economic threat, not because it defied any of the established principles of the United States as a whole. It was denied because the supreme court was seeking to follow "the interests of the American public", which (because of religious and societal bias) at the time was very much anti-LGBT.

You can argue that since you don't have a religion it should logically not play any part in the decisions of the US government but, despite "separation of church and state", it is.

>>35 The issues of a democracy lie in the interests of the people that make up that democracy. More people are interested in suppressing the church's role in politics, which leads to a less religiously-connected debate.

>>36 From both sides, an honest Christian will tell you that through interpreting the letter of the Bible differently, you can reach a completely different outcome. A rational one will tell you that the works of the Old Testament were made obsolete by the New Testament, and now simply stand more as a historical understanding of previous life and it's meaning.

America: for the people, by the people, not for the bible by the bible.

>>39 forget about America, this thing is actual in whole world. For example I´m from Slovakia (in Europe) where we don´t have such strong bond with religion but still just registered partnership (what sucks).

>>40 sorry, I just wanted to use that cause when it comes down to it, American politics is run more so on religious ideas then the ideas of the people.

>>41 Yes it does seem like America is running on more of a religious base than a political base. Personally they should just pass the law making it legal for same sex couples to get married, I don't see what the big deal is.

>>42 -you've got High five!-

There's a book I want to read called "Debating Same-sex Marriage" where a woman, against marriage, and a homosexual man debate same-sex marriage (thank you, Captain). It's really interesting because neither of them use foul language at each other or provide ignorant excuses, it's a clear and rational debate. I think a lot of you would be interested in reading it which is why I brought it up.

>>44 good thinking HAM, here! Have some bacon.

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>>45 But...I don't even like bacon D:

Would eating it make me a cannibal?

its not bad to be gay well i dont think it is? :/

im bi so i get what your saying!

>>47 Pigging out on it would certainly make you almost as bad as the leader of sowth korea.

Love is Love no one can't say anything about who you love and how you feel

>>51
Thats fucking stupid, there is are people married to inanimate fucking objects and dolphins. Love is just another human emotion and should not be given special benifits because its nice. I do agree with gay equality of course but just saying you know, people should have the right.

I don't know so much about same sex marriage but I think for some people, It's normal

My teacher said 'Falling in love at someone is normal, no matter its boy and boy or girl and girl because its love, right?'

Love is love, no one can stop it

I dont agree with this they are stupid!

As long as they don't hurt anyone one I don't care. But don't try any of that broke back mountain stuff me.

The fact that people are treating homosexuals diffrent is silly. It doesn't change that they are normal human and there is no real different really. You don't changes just because you like someone of the same gender.
It is even good. The overpopulation will slow down and if homosexuals was allowed to adopt kids we could lower the amount of kids with no home and family that are starving. So I see no reason why it would be wrong.

>>60 The majority of my homosexual friends do act different to my straight friends. I am not pointing this out in a negative way, it is not worse but it certainly is different (the extremity varies). I know some who fit that typical "Fabulous" stereotype and some who are near identical but we should not feel pressured into acting like there is no difference.

I am all for gay marriage, just because something is different doesn't mean we should shun it. Unfortunately, that is humanities first instinct. Actually a New Zealand minister did an amazingly funny speech when the bill for 'same sex marriage' was passed there (link below). But yeah, don't feel pressured into pretending we are all identical.

Link for amazing speech:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRQXQxadyps

GodHatesFags!8NBuQ4l6uQ YOU DON'T IN SULT MY BROTHER OR I'LL KICK YOUR ASS!!!!!!!!!!

>>64
1. shut the fuck up
2. quit putting a jpg on every single post you make, it doesnt make people think you have a profile pic
3. shush

know what you guys been nothing but dicks so you all go to HELL or so be it i'll send you there myself and besides my brother and i are with gay marriage so what it not a taboo or something it the media it got it fucking grip on you next thing we all know that you'll be with it and you'll be against strait marriage so that hate gay marriage don't comment. ok

>>66 Don't feed the trolls. Later

>>66 ................... What?

All I deciphered from that was
"I give into trolls way to easily, do not know how to use grammar and think I'm tough because I threaten people online. ok

>>69 Orrrr this isn't a faggy fan service RP site.
If people are going to be annoying/obnoxious whilst on this site they are of course going to get told to fuck off. This is the news board, used for discussing current topics not RPing different characters. There is no point in having threads up for discussing if people aren't going to discuss/debate.

So yeah... no.

>>69 Also, this thread has literally NOTHING to do with them specifically. We don't dote on them because none of us fucking care. They could be sextuplets for all we care, why should that make them more important than the rest of us simply by that fact alone? ITT: It doesn't. Get your head out from up their asses.

Whatever, done arguing. Back on topic plox.

we'll stop if you stop and we're not rping this is how we act in real life so please don't rant in my brother you can do that on me just not my brother. bully me not my twin.

>>73 Obviously you don't understand how this site basically functions. Members who have stuck with it for long enough to get the gist wean out the idiots/annoying people/bothers/spam posters by not being gracious when they do something annoying. If they weren't dealt with harshly the site would be overflowing with lessers right now. Insulting words, harsh corrections and unforgiving posts are just a protection scheme used to get the people (for example) who join because it's THE DOLLARS and WE'RE A GANG WITHOUT A COLOUR AND WE ARE IMPORTANT and who are probably Anonymous fanboys out.

If you don't want to do it fine but it still needs to be done.

"It needs to be done"?

Wow... And I thought that I could relate to you all this while, but nope...
They're pretending to be twins (which is kind of sad, since they're one person), but at least they were contributing to the conversation unlike the other spammers. That is, until people started bitching at them, and then the last several posts on this thread got so retarded.

"Protection scheme"? No. We're just being assholes. Don't make it more than it really is. It isn't that we want those kind of members out of here, we just want them to post in the right place, which would be missions, or tell them to just do that stuff in a chatroom. And if they don't like the members of this site, then they should go make there own.

To the Doctor who has the patience to defend that guy pretending to be twins, I respect that.

Now, can we please get back on topic.

I just found out something disturbing and here's a little back story so that I may ask this question that's been bothering the ever loving hell out of me.
So I heard from a con last week or so that this actor said that he didn't feel comfortable answering a question from a fan, because it was about possible romance between his character and another man.
Now, for 5 seasons straight, ever since this new character showed up, he's been asked by fans about their relationship, and he tries to indulge their fantasies, and it's obvious that he's NEVER been comfortable answering these questions, and the moment he voices that, the LGBT on tumblr just blows up, hating on him in every way, knowing DAMN well that he supports gay rights.

Why?

Why did they call him homophobic? Did it ever occur to them that he feels awkward about it because he's been acting in the show for 8 seasons, nearly 200 episodes, and his character has slept with women all across the U.S., and despite this, fans are saying that his acting towards his male cast member on set hints at his character is gay or bisexual? I mean, does that even make sense? And even if he wasn't uncomfortable about the questions because it questioned his acting capabilities, and he was just plain "uncomfortable" about being asked the questions, does that make him homophobic?

It pissed me off because a simple comment about being uncomfortable made nearly 8 seasons of hard work go unnoticed.
So what, now gays have the "homophobic card" to pull as much as black people have the "race card"?
I just hate when gays attack people who support them having equal rights, seemingly because they're straight. Which doesn't make sense, because like black people needed the support of white people during the civil rights movement, the LGBT needs the support of straight people. I just felt really pissed off because that incident right there nearly made me shred any support I had for gay rights. You know I got nearly kicked out of my church and half of my family for not even fucking being lesbian or bisexual, but just because I support it? And then I hear fucking mess like what happened last week?
I support equal rights, but I too find it "weird" and "uncomfortable". Just like how people still find inter-racial couple weird. But this actor wasn't even saying THAT much. He just doesn't want his character to be associated with it.
Were those members of the LGBT over-reacting, or is it truly homophobic to say that they support gay rights, but they're uncomfortable being associated with it?

Guys help me out, I'm serious.

>>77 I would rather be known as an asshole than have the site filled with people like "zero" and "ReAdYhIt". You might not of seen any of their posts but they needed somebody to tell them to fuck off. It is quite possible my judgement on this has gotten lax however (that or we have completely different ideas on how to deal with the site)

OKAY, moving on as well >>78
That is the problem with equal rights movements, they are totally necessary but the aftershock of all of them has an unfortunate outbreak of over sensitivity. Cases like this always happen when people become afraid to criticize a group that has been treated badly (Women, jews, homosexuals, African Americans ect.) and they gain a complete upper hand. I also find being sexual with the same sex weird, what heterosexual doesn't? The fact that a person is getting persecuted for that is just rediculous.

This was a super hurried post so please excuse the grammar mistakes, people.

>>79 I even had time on my post and I still made loads of grammar mistakes. I think when I get angry I reword a sentence and then forget to make something plural or add in an article because I'm just too pissed.

But I'm glad I'm not the only one. I was seriously angry about this.

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>>82 You are not contributing and this post makes no sense. I was trying to support you in being nice to the newbies, but now you just made both of us look like idiots. Gee, thanks.

On topic people! Stay on topic! This is the News Board, is there any recent NEWS on the struggle equal rights for the LGBT community?
I would seriously like an update on how their headquarters right across West Boro is doin'...

That post intrigued me and led me to do a google search of "Westbro Baptist Church news", and guess what I found!

The church recently started blaming a tornado in Oklahoma on a NBA star "Jason Collins" coming out of the closet! (Makes sense I know).

The prominent church member and Westbrobaptists church minister's child "Fred Phelps Jr" tweeted this earlier this week:

"OK Thunder's Durant flips God by praising fag Collins.God smashes OK. You do the math.#GodH8sFags #FagsDoomNations #FearGod #GodH8sU" Lovely, I know. This is just the latest in the ongoing train of Westbro antics that seem to be getting less and less news coverage due to the fact that people get sick of them pretty quickly.

>>85 That meme... They didn't do it right.

But yeah, totally agree.

But think about it; what if it weren't the adults, but the kids of those adults who were in the closet? They're trapped pretending they're someone they're not. Forever. Hating themselves. Forever.

>>87 Such a legendary act.

>>87 *facepalm* I already told you that happened. DX
That's the LGBT headquarters. I posted a link to it months ago.

I find it weird how humans can manipulate something so horribly that it turns from basic Christianity into the Westbro baptist church. And it's not even like it's a one off thing as well, just about every religion suffers from that kind of movement.

It's kind of amazing really.

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I think it's because of reproduction, if you think about the other side more it makes sense. if everyone went gay and lesbian civilization would be done and there wouldn't be anyone else to make the future and stuff. This might be a continuous problem if they don't allow the right of gay and lesbian marriage but if it was allowed then reproduction would decrease. Either way it would be a problem.

>>93 Oh golly me, I'm sorry! I forgot how if we let a small section of society be married to their own gender EVERYBODY is going to want to do it. But basically what you're saying is because they don't breed they have no use to society, even if they are amazing actors/great scientists/inventors it doesn't matter because instead of filling an overpopulated world up with more babies they might have to *shudder* adopt a kid from life in an orphanage. Your logic is flawed and silly.

>>94 Then they'll say that they'll raise the child to be gay than straight.

Had a huge debate with someone about that. I had thought children should be raised straight but with out force, and then if they say they're gay, then you can change your parenting methods.
But then they said why can't the same happen with raising them to be gay? I said that it would be harder to re-adjust. If a boy has two Dads that are "flamboyantly gay" or just really feminine, they copy them, and when they get older and want a girlfriend it'll be harder to stop acting like their Dads and be more manly to attract a girlfriend. For example, I didn't have two gay dads, but I did have a brother. He raised me in my earliest memories of him and that turned me into a gamer, a tomboy, and a girl who rarely ever wore skirts or dresses or makeup, and liked wearing male clothing and had a low voice for a girl.
I realized one day that it was hard to get my crushes because I was seen as "one of the guys". And sometimes I wondered on false information if I was lesbian. I don't know how to flirt, and I sort of know how to be feminine.
You see?

But then there is the debate about age. When can someone be announced gay? I thought that I was at 13 or 14, but I was wrong. Do they have to wait until 18? By then it's a bit too late.

I think if they are to adopt, they should adopt children of opposite gender.
But then, would that be yielding them equal rights too? Would it matter, because they're orphans and you should feel proud to be able to adopt one regardless of their freaking gender??
Then there are the awkward moments of an orphan child not wanting 2 moms or 2 dads as a parent (it can happen if they're old enough).
Then the even more awkward would be if they weren't lesbian or gay parents, but bisexual. Would bisexuals be able to adopt boysa and girls?

So sensitive and confusing.

>>95
Personally I think homosexuality is more nature than nurture, that's why I don't have a problem with gay couples raising kids. I do see what you're saying though, kids instinctively take after their parents and it might be harder for them to adjust to fit within a heterosexual society. I do know a gay, Asian doctor called Tom who is raising a 12 year old boy in New Zealand however, and he seems to accept the fact his father as gay as an everyday fact and just move on. Tom isn't very flamboyant though, so the circumstances might change if he was.

I was/am raised by a very social family, they go to gatherings, enjoy sports, and like the idea of always having friends. Me on the other hand, despite all that have turned into an awkward, antisocial creature that actually gets afraid when invited to events like parties. Without any nudging I turned myself into a bit of a shutin reader/gamer and my family had no effect on how I turned out within society (Trying to change that a bit now though because a few weekends ago I met a girl exactly like me but could not work up the courage to talk to her). Whether the situation is different with sexuality though, I have no idea.

I think in a lot of communities the line between sexuality is a bit blurred, so many people I know label themselves as "bi-sexual" rather than accept the fact they are horny teenagers that feel attracted towards anything with thighs and lips. Due to that openness, people question their sexuality a lot more freely now and I think they should just be encouraged to make sure first, rather than set an age limit.

That gender adoption is the same kind of problem with the Gun laws I think, at what point do you start eroding peoples freedom rather than doing what is best for the general populous? Also, because (not being stereotypical) on ratio, I know a lot more gay couples than lesbian couples, that might leave quite a few problems within the orphanage.

Determining equal rights for a section of normally discriminated against society is always going to be a tricky issue, with compromises needed on both sides. Your point is definitely valid, but due to the over-sensitivity in the government/media/society right now, it probably won't be addressed for a long time.

>>96 True that. And yeah, there will always be the chance that no matter how you raise a child they turn out the exact opposite of what you were hoping to raise them as.

And now, let's delve in a bit deeper.

A man and a woman get married and have or adopt a child. Though this man truly loves his wife, he has always wanted to be of the opposite sex. He takes the hormone pills and has multiple operations, and voila! Daddy is now mommy.
Is that fair? If we only allow children of the opposite gender to be with gay and lesbian couples, will there be an exception for couples in that kind of situation?
What are the rules on transgenders as well?

It'll be hella confusing. I just care about the children. People worry if gay people will.. I don't know, adopt children of the same sex for pedophilia. But people need to remember that homosexuals aren't synonymous with pedophiles. Just like in the heterosexual community, there will be some pedophiles.
Whenever any homosexual or bisexual or heterosexual person adopts a child, there will Always be a risk factor.

All I can ask is for a more intense background check and checking up on the child for the first year after adoption.

Hrmmm, I think a lesbian transsexual couple might not be the most common thing in the world but I get you're example. I heard somewhere that they are close to finishing some research on how to insert a womb into a man, so that might change everything.

I hate that inset paranoia and subconscious grouping people do of gays with paedophiles. It's like all those 'anti gay rights' groups have ingrained it into our subconscious somehow. Like you said, it is the exact same chance as a straight paedophile abusing the adoption rights. Also remember, they do strict back-checks on parents before letting them take home a child.

Stricter social workers would be a great asset. Unfortunately, the job is kind of like teaching and it usually sucks the life out of the employees after a couple of years.

>>98 But there are so many still jobless, and being a social worker doesn't require much education or experience. The pay isn't much of course, but it sure as hell beats being jobless.
How are social workers paid anyway? I mean, in this case, would the government be paying them?

And yes, it's strict. I suppose what I'm thinking of would be better labeled as investigation, because I would like to gain the opinions of friends and family too before a child is adopted. I get how long it would take, but it would be faster if there were more people.

>>99 It would make sense for them to be counted as public servants right? I mean, they don't get hired by private companies or anything so the government would really be their only option. Still, do you really want a social worker that is only doing the job because it pays and not because they care about the kids? I just feel that might lead to the slackening of ever important background checks.

The stricter the reputation is, the more paedophiles will be deterred from even trying anyway, so it's kind of a win win. I suppose the government just wouldn't priotise it very much due to how little it effects the economy though.

>>100 True, but that's a risk with all low paying jobs. How sure are you that the grumpy waitress didn't spit in your food?

I suppose repeated inspection may also be needed.
It'll be better as well because they would be hiring people who got laid off or can't find a job Because of the recession. Not because they got fired or have had multiple complaints against them in the past. Also, if an adopted child from their orphanage is found in the hands of a pedophile (however the man or woman was found out), it would all come down to the person who incorrectly made the bg check (if he had actually effed up somehow). And if that's the case, I do believe he/she could be charged with something.

Problem with that, is that it can be years later until the man is found out, or worse, the entire orphanage is a scandal. Abuse and pedophilia within the orphanage.

Sigh... There's just never a perfect answer for anything.

Oh, and I read that story of the transsexual gone lesbian in this month's Cosmo. The wife was okay, and the daughter was 3 at the time he started and 5 at the time of the interview. She would help her new mommy put on her make up. But with those memories, how confusing will it be fore her to find her mom used to be a John instead of a Jane?

>>101 Laaawwlll That's actually not an issue for Australians because we have minimum wage. Waiters in America usually have low pay rates thus get angry when you don't give them the tips they rely on. Here, Adults have to be paid at least 9 dollars an hour (it's usually about 13 though) so tips are completely optional.

I actually have no idea though, do social workers require a perquisite degree? Surely they can't just let anybody do it. Maybe they could do rotations with 3 social workers of like 6 months each then, so there is room for failure on one persons part but they still get to know the child rather than just inspecting a stranger.

It may just be all the movies/books I have seen/read but for some reason whenever I think of an orphanage I think of a deary, strict building in Britain where its always raining and children get beaten for not doing chores. I would be interested to see what a functional one actual looks like.

I'm not really aware of what a Cosmo is but I'm guessing a magazine of some kind. Hrmmm, it seems like hopefully she was young enough to not remember much of the John and instead remember just enough to acknowledge she turned into a Jane. My real issue with couples like that would be the possible abuse the kids would cop at school just for having "different" parents.

I enjoy discussing these types of things though because it's hard to assert your view into yourself if you can't make it stand up straight to others. I have an extremely (annoyingly) feminist sister who is always one of those extremely over-sensitive people who persecutes anybody who opposes gay marriage as badly as the worst misogynist would do to gays. That is what I don't want happening to the social system. Gay couples should not get priority in adoption just because they are gay, they also should not be shoved down the list. What adoption services need is a sort of equilibrium between background checks and steady adoption rates. That is never going to be easy to find, especially with an apathetic government in charge.

We... have minimum wage too...

It's $7.20 last time I checked.
I'm not sure how Australian dollars and American ones differ, how how it's spent in your economy.
The good ol White House says they're aiming to bump up minimum wage, but, you know. May or may not, kinda sorta, could probably happen, maybe, in like, 3 years.

Okay, finally looked it up:
Bachelor's degrees are required for interviewers for programs like food stamps and other government entitlements. It is not always necessary that the major focus is social work.

http://www.ehow.com/facts_5007514_long-does-become-social-worker.html#ixzz2UVqZqTUS

You can become a non-professional social worker in some child welfare agencies with only a high school education (though these are quickly diminishing). You still can get a job in many social service agencies without a degree in social work, but you will only be able to work for the county and will not have the same amount of career advancement.

-Chick on yahoo (Wish she left a reference)


And as I thought, some orphanages are completely staffed with religious personnel, volunteers and nuns (so they most likely get government grants instead of just a tax reduction like churches get).


The description you gave is what I honestly imagine an old school covenant/orphanage, sadly . So they would be the last type I mentioned (the picture above is a Kenyan covenant/orphanage), and everyone I knew who grew up in a Covenant School (not an orphanage) always said they got smacked around by the Nuns.
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, I take it?

Hmmm... The Cosmopolitan is what I thought to be a pretty popular mag, but then again, it is for women. It's like, a magazine that has everything female all in one; the latest fashions in clothing and makeup, interesting/funny stories, female power journalism, a little Q&A section for girls to ask about themselves and men, and sex and relationship tips (since men are crazy and hard to understand).

Kids will bully you about anything nowadays. How would you go about solving it? In such a situation, it would be more the school administration's duty. But then, that would rub some couples would the wrong way, because they see it as ostracizing their child. Sure, the teacher won't exactly say "Okay everyone! No one pick on Timmy because his parents are special," but that's certainly how they will feel about it.


Exactly! EQUALITY needs to be EQUAL, yeah? No special treatment just because they're temporarily in the limelight!

But ehh... To be honest, for me, standing my ground and fermenting reasons I accumulate for why I stand by it is just a bonus from the argument. I just like to win. It's at least 65% about winning in my head.
Because no one likes to be wrong, competitive people especially. Admitting I'm wrong and someone else is right physically pains me.

>>104 Dont be such a dumbass. God hates NO ONE. Stop speaking for us christians if you dont know shit.

>>107 Just ignore him.

>>103
WHAT! America has a minimum wage??? My entire knowledge of your country is a lie... That's like the first thing you learn in Commerce, "We are superior to America because we have a decent minimum wage, they don't." Australian dollar is slightly more powerful than the American one right now but we are desperately trying to change that due to the fact nobody wants to buy our shit off the global market anymore. Both our governments parties last elections was "We will keep boat people out", the person we elected is bad, the person we could elect is absolutely terrible. Politics is not fun in Australia right now.

Ohhhh, a Bachelors degree makes sense. It's surprisingly smart how they offer jobs to people without them but just place restrictions on them.

I suppose orphanages would be a very good incentive for religious people. Why not take underprivileged children and teach them the word of our god/s. Of course the type of people who would do that in most religions would usually be the strict ones that would beat and such for disobedience. That actually reminds me! My grandfather grew up in an orphanage somewhere in Africa till he was about 6. Apparently they beat anybody who used their left hand because they believed it to be a sign of the devil. (healthy right?)

Can you tell me the difference between a convent school and an orphanage? Or is it purely religious. Those kind of things in the country would be hard to maintain though, the adoption services could easily be abused (some asshole farmer adopting 6 kids just so they work on his farm etc).

Human nastiness is never going to stop being an issue I suppose, it's just the issues that it currently creates. I've always thought of it kind of as a whack-a-mole game with our mental instincts. Bullying in that way will always be around. However, I have never met one of those old fashioned "Give me yer lunch money" bullies in all my school years. Is it different in America, or is it just a relic of the past?

Try telling that to my sister.... She believed that the actor who said he felt uncomfortable playing as a homosexual man should have been ostracised from the television business.

Know dem feels about admitting to losing too.

i did a study in Alaska and most of the people that i asked just don't care if you date or marry the same sex i mean i saw the discrimination that happens it's make me beyond angry but who cares what i think people already make fun of me because i'm f**king Bisexual and this is just high school.i posted a video on youtube if you want me to put the link on here just ask.


and i'm really sorry for being aggressive before i was just on edge and some idiots pushed me over before i even got on here.

Oh, hey GHF, welcome back. How have you been? Good? Good. Let's continue with some actual discussion.

Hate Map

So, someone decided to make a map showing the density of tweets involving homophobic messages based on geography. Cool concept, but it really sucks once you look at it. You can change the settings so you can see racist or disabled tweets too.

So, what kind of area do you live in? I got a hotspot right above my town. Now I'm sad.

GodHatesFags!8NBuQ4l6uQ in the bible itself says that god love everyone and their faults ya someone else know the bible. so get over it all ready!!!!!!!!

>>114
Sorry, my internet is stupid.
Can you please link it.

>>115
Dude, he's just a troll. Don't give in to him.

>>116 U. Email. Go read it.

to be honest i dont care what happens in the future with this 'problem' cause it wont effect me, so im happy either way, but i know soemwhere it is stated the mariage is between a man and a women so yeah....but all you need to do is come up with a different name instead of marry it could me anything. of ya know what im trying to say

and saying your countries meant to be free is irrelevant, it does say marriage is betwwen a man and a women, therefore marriage between 2 ppl of the same sex should have a different name

>>118 >>119 I don't think anyone but yourself knows what you're trying to say.

well i just mean all the same things as marriage just dont call it marriage, because it says marriage is between 2 ppl that are different genders, and everyone who is against it will probs support it

>>121... Then what you're talking about is like a Civil Union.
It's like a marriage, but not really, and in most states homosexuals can have this Civil Union. But you don't get it, they want to get married. So, that won't work.
We're trying to get rid of the homophobia, not call an apple an orange.
What's worse is that I believe you said previously that you didn't really care about the topic because it didn't affect you?
Switch it around. Gay people can get married but straight people get civil unions; watered down, second-class marriage. That's no good, yeah?

its not that it wouldnt effect me, its just im not one to complain,especially when the government has a lot more important thing to take care of for now,and its not second class marriage to me it is just marriage but for people of the same sex. but i do understand where you are coming from

I completely agree with Kiyoya. It's not even a 'problem'... well it shouldn't be

wtf you used my screen name noob haha, are you new?

Marriage is just a word... People who love each other should be allowed to show it anyway they want, unless it's harming people... and this is definately not going to harm anyone

It's supposed to be a sign of support, but dw now...

I Changed it... Better?

YES it looked like i was crazy talking to my self

Well, anyway, you bring up good points Kiyoya

thanks but im not against it or for it really i dont mind what happens, just that the economy is defs more important at the moment

And the soldiers at war and illegal refugees and terrorism the list goes on

Of course, it seems like politicians are just focusing on these small issues or 'non issues' when there are more important things to worry about, like you said 'the economy'

>>118 >>119 The bible also says that any woman who is married when she is not a virgin should be killed. There is also a whole group of people out there married to inanimate objects.

>>131 It's not like every person/politician is focused on those issues though. Believe it or not, America can multi-task as a country. Other ones seem to manage.

I also have high suspicion of same-fagging but I can't prove it so won't accuse you of it.

??123 - >>129 Oh my gosh, so much funnyyyy! XDD

>>134 your first point is strong, im not sure how America's representatives work on things seeing as America is a Republic and Australia is well owned i guess by the UK, but here in Australia electricity bill and water bills have rised by like 20%, thing like that and illegal refugees, terrorism and stupid hipster youth acting like commplete idiots in public and in front of families with children is what i think the Australian government should be focused on and i think these issues should be dealt with first, but im not against gay marriage and i wouldnt mind if gays could get married so that means i support gay marriage, just that i dont mind what the outcome is, and yeah that was my friend who just started watching Durarara, it even took him 15 tries to get the password after i told him what it was haha

>>136 Dude, I also live in Australia. You really think with our current economic inflation problems and asylum seekers crisis we really need to be focused on dealing with hipsters? Also, we have such little terrorism compared to the rest of the world, I would consider it far from the top of our priorities. It's good you support gay marriage but unfortunately (due to our bogan government) No matter if we want it or not, it wont be happening in the foreseeable future. Actually the country I would point out would be New Zealand, not only do they have their economical shit severely together they also have great clean energy initiatives, were one of the first first world countries to allow gay marriage, have not had a nuclear machine on their land in history but ALSO had the first woman prime minister in history. It was rated by Times as the freest country in the world, that is what people should be looking at as an example.

>>137 Damn.

We're so far away.

But wait! Where do they stand regarding abortions?

>>138 Check it out for yourself
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_New_Zealand

TLDR: Pro choice with a few "In this situation you gotta keep it" rules.

Oh well thanks guys you definitely opened up my point of view and I thank you for that, but I thought mo matter what issues are tackled first eventually gay marriage will be accepted :)

I don't condone gay marriage in anyway, but neither do I discriminate or hurt the ones that don't share my opinion.. I think it's sad when something happens to straight people it's just another case, but when it happens to the LGBT community it becomes such huge deals.. :(

>>141 Could you give some examples? Because I think you're confused here.

>>145 I will seriously pray for your soul. Pray that God opens your eyes to the monster you are.

Sometimes it's hard to tell if you're even serious, but please- Please, just stop. When will you understand that no one here cares about your opinions? When will you understand that ALL CAPS doesn't make you more heard? I don't even read your messages anymore. Accept that people differ in religion and opinion and just GO. AWAY. You're so useless and you're only making an ass out of yourself. I don't know what "mission" you think you're on, constantly spouting the same thing over and over in all caps, but you're wasting space.
I used to hate you. Not because you hated gays, but just because you're just. plain. annoying.

But now, I just pity you. Because you do nothing but constantly visit an online community where everybody hates your guts. How sad of an existence.

>>145 Dude srsly if your here to argue please do it peacefully and try not to offend any one when arguing your "point". we are all Dollars,all apart of the same group please dont be mean to one another

WE DON'T CARE.

>>116 sorry for the fomatting fail. It's weird because it'll change colour when I hover over the link but then won't let me follow the link.

http://users.humboldt.edu/mstephens/hate/hate_map.html#

GodHatesFags!8NBuQ4l6uQ if saying being a fag is a sin then stop being a fag there is more than one defection you know.
a fag is a bundle of sticks in french or a cigarette be more specific.

i know that. if you don't like it then stop just stop being a fag your self. your preaching to the wrong group.

>>159
Tenet 1: Never dishonor the Night Mother. To do so is to invoke the Wrath of Sithis.

Tenet 2: Never betray the Dark Brotherhood or its secrets. To do so is to invoke the Wrath of Sithis.

Tenet 3: Never disobey or refuse to carry out an order from a Dark Brotherhood superior. To do so is to invoke the Wrath of Sithis.

Tenet 4: Never steal the possessions of a Dark Brother or Dark Sister. To do so is to invoke the Wrath of Sithis.

Tenet 5: Never kill a Dark Brother or Dark Sister. To do so is to invoke the Wrath of Sithis.

>>160 This so much.

>>161
The first guild I joined if possible in any Elder Scrolls games.

>>155
Thankyou! It doesn't do Australia unfortunately :/

To everybody: Don't reply to godhatesfags, most likely he doesn't actually believe any of that but he is simply thriving off the reactions. Even if he is, trying to change his mind or getting angry at him won't do anything. I think its best if everybody just ignores him.

>>163 Yeah, I'm starting to suspect that this has nothing to do with religion or bible thumping. So why the hell isn't he/she trolling anywhere else? Only on the gay rights threads...

Oh he actually believes this.

Oh he actually believes this.

Oh he actually believes this.

Oh he actually believes this.

Oh he actually believes this.

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Can you people who are calling homosexuality just shut up???
Stop calling it a sin! And even if you think it is a sin, maybe other people don't share the same ideas with you guys, so stop imposing your ideas on other people!
I personally feel that all these rights will be gained as we have gained the gay marriage rights in many states in US and other countries. We're still waiting on countries like Australia, but all these progressions on gay rights are there.
Gay rights will progress as time progresses.

>>179 DON'T FEED THE TROLL!! Just ignore them and with enough combined will power, the universe will hit them with a bus.

The majority of people in Australia do support Same Sex Marriage, it's just our government is full of bogan fucks, each trying to be more of a bogan fuck than the rest.

>>181 That's interesting... Our politicians here are like that mainly because they're more in the closet than homophobic. But if you're politicians act that way in a pretty open nation, then they're just homophobic. Or religious. But thanks to that bio teacher, I don't think there is such a thing as a religious Australian.

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Wow, that is the first "Post deleted by moderator." I've ever seen.

Break the champagne people.

Omg banned him AND deleted his posts?

No wonder people worship Reltair. So Admin = God, yeah?

GOD

HATES

FAGS!

I see you have risen from the grave of postblock, GodHatesFags.

What will be the title for the sequel? I was thinking maybe:
GodHatesFags: The hateful comeback, fags beware

But you know, you have the production rights.

Do you know how hard it is for a true loving Christian to see you blaspheming like this?

It must be because he uses a phone. The ID keeps changing when you use a phone, right? So that's how he keeps coming back... I'm so sad now. I'm just gonna go sit in a corner.

195<< no it will be called Fags: The people that god hates.

196<< blaspheming? that is not so. i am only telling the truth.

>>197
Actually that might have some marketing problems in Britain due to their different use of the word. Maybe try some other derogatory slang for the movie title. I'm sure the world will be united by such a convincing, touching move.

OH, maybe you and Scientology could team up and talk about how the lord Xenu also hates fags!

>>199 ROFLMFAO

199<< is that so? : ) i ashore you that it will not be a problem as it will be a number one sealer.

>>201 Assure. And Seller.

You poor thing, you really are drunk, aren't you?

GOD WILL KILL ALL THE FAGS AND SEND THEM TO HELL WHERE THAY BELONG!

>>203 It's "they", sweetheart. "They".

FOOLS! DO YOU REALLY THINK GOD LOVES YOU? HOW STUPID YOU ARE!

But it's good to know that you're actually capable of holding a conversation. Even if it was terribly brief.

GOD HATES FAGS BECAUSE THAY WILL NOT TURN AWAY FROM THERE SINS!

"They" and "their", sweetheart.

GOD

HATES

FAGS!

So how was your day today, hm? Good, bad, a little in between?

Also, is that your secret to dealing with grammar? Three worded sentences? And to make sure they're right, you spend time posting one word at a time.

Welp, looks like gays are being hated. good job government, you have proceeded one step further into an eventual rebellion.

>>214 You blame the government because one stranger online is repeatedly being an ignorant asshole on a random site?

GOD

HATES

fags!

>>218 Forgot the caps. Have another go moron.

219<< FOOL! DO YOU REALLY THINK GOD LOVES FAGS? YOU KNOW THAT ALL FAGS WILL PAY FOR THERE SINS! HEED MY WORDS AND REPENT!

GOD HATES YOU AND YOU KNOW IT!

>>221 Silly silly, GHF. he hates FIGS, not fags. Idk what bible you read but it's all wrong and not updated.

222<< FOOL! YOU DARE CALL GOD A LIYER? IN THE BIBLE IT SEAD THAT FAGS SHOULD DIE!

I HAVE A QUESTION! ARE THERE ANY FAGS HERE THAT ARE CHRISTIAN?

>>223 "Liar" and "said".
And when are you going to pick up on the arrows needing to go this way >>223 , and not this way 223<< for the link to work?

I HAVE A QUESTION! ARE THERE ANY FAGS HERE THAT ARE CHRISTIAN?

I HAVE A QUESTION! ARE THERE ANY FAGS HERE THAT ARE CHRISTIAN?

I HAVE A QUESTION! ARE THERE ANY FAGS HERE THAT ARE CHRISTIAN?

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godhatesfags im a christian and i'm bisexual what are you going tp be about it that's right nothing just like what your doing is stearing all them away from god you mother f**king a*shole

*facepalm* Even when I try to hide it...

>>232 Come on man.. He's obviously not listening to anything you say, you're just feeding him.

valid argument but this for real life to.

232<< SO YOU SAY YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN? DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A CHRISTIAN? A CHRISTIAN IS SOMEONE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN! THY KNOW GODS LAW WELL! A TRUE CHRISTIAN KNOWS NOT TO SIN! BECAUSE IF THAY DO THAT THAY KNOW THAY WILL PAY FOR IT! YOU ARE NOT A TRUE CHRISTIAN! IF YOU WAS YOU WOULD NOT BE A FAG!

IF YOU ARE A FAG YOU CAN NOT BE A CHRISTIAN! BECAUSE A TRUE CHRISTIAN CAN NOT SIN!

>>237 I love the Shakespearean language chucked in there, even if used incorrectly.

Also, I thought sin was a by-product of us eating the apple of knowledge. So shouldn't animals not be capable of sins? But male dolphins often rape other male dolphins out of sexual anger and to prove their dominance, wouldn't that be considered a sin? If that's true there must be some dolphin hell for all the dolphins god hates as well. Either that or your logic doesn't stand. Could go either way though.

A TRUE CHRISTIAN CAN NOT SIN BECAUSE HE KNOWS ALL THE SINS AND HE WILL NOT DO ANYTHING TO DISPLEASE GOD!

Ahh yes but that's not what I am saying, you appear to be avoiding the question (don't worry about it). You can't expect animals to know sins right? But they still conduct them. So if sins are not limited to humans why does god only punish them? Shouldn't dolphins have it ingrained inside them that raping male dolphins is wrong?

I mean, dolphins would find it pretty hard to know every sin, unless of course homosexuality isn't a sin. (blasphemy I know).

Can i knife you in the face for trying to communicate with it. Stop doing what youre doing

239<<i can't find anything on dolphins rapeing other male dolphins therefore you made it up nice try dumbass!

>>243 Oh, I'm sorry, did you use google?
When I used it multiple sources came up, here is one:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wildlife/9172937/Dolphins-resort-to-rape.html

A quote from it is: In some instances, males would assert their authority by forcefully mounting other males and other such violent sexual behaviour.

So do you reckon Dolphins had their own little apple of knowledge or is it just a glitch in gods system of sins? You seem to be a lot more knowledgeable than me or this subject.

244<< that information has to be fals. Dolphins don't do stuff like that.

>>245 Sorry, they do. There has actually been 4 reported cases of dolphins raping humans (Those ones aren't as sound though).

But seriously, can you please explain to me how animals can commit such a horrible sin if humans can only do it because they ate the apple? I would really like to know, unless of course you are wrong and don't have an explanation for it.

>>245 I mean, I can link you more studies of animal homosexuality if you want, it's fairly common.

>>247
I'm surprised you didn't mention cats or dogs, since they do it the most and we keep them as pets all the time.
(Dude. I think you destroyed his love for Dolphins. I don't know if that's pitiful or funny as all Hell. That was like, a kick in the nuts for anyone whose homophobic. XD)

246<<first of all you won't find anything in the bible about animals commiting sin. this is about people not animals.

But you say homosexuality is a sin. Being homosexual is a sin. So if male dolphins rape other male dolphins are they sinful? I got two male cats humping the crap out of each other, are they sinful? They have the choices of being with a female cat too, but they choose not to. Are they going to Hell? Weren't they also God's handmade creations?

>>251 Exactly.

>>249 The point of freethinking was that it allowed us to commit sin, that means before that we were not capable of committing sins. If animals (who don't think freely) commit the act of homosexuality that means it must not be a sin.

ANIMALS CAN'T SIN! THAY DON'T HAVE A SOUL AND THAY DON'T HAVE SHAM OR GELT! BUT MAN ON THE OTHER HAND KNOWS BETTER! GOD TOLD US WHAT TO DO AND WHAT NOT TO DO WE KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG!

ANIMALS CAN'T SIN! THAY DON'T HAVE A SOUL AND THAY DON'T HAVE SHAM OR GELT! BUT MAN ON THE OTHER HAND KNOWS BETTER! GOD TOLD US WHAT TO DO AND WHAT NOT TO DO WE KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG!

ANIMALS CAN'T SIN! THAY DON'T HAVE A SOUL AND THAY DON'T HAVE SHAM OR GELT! BUT MAN ON THE OTHER HAND KNOWS BETTER! GOD TOLD US WHAT TO DO AND WHAT NOT TO DO WE KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG!

They*
Shame*
Guilt*

In Revelations it speaks of animals in Heaven. And those who have had a brush with death and entered Heaven's Gate also said that they saw animals.

Just because you can't accept that animals have souls does not mean they don't have one.

Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” Matthew 19:26

By the way, you guys keep using the purification of Sodom to be the example to why "God hates fags". You all did read the fucking story, right? That place was filled with sin not because "there were homosexuals"! They were RAPISTS. There's a difference.

And here's a parting gift.

11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.” Matthew 19:11-12

Fun fact: Eunuchs back in Biblical times did not mean castrated. It was a term to describe males who held no sexual attraction to females.

>>255 Wait, so you're saying God built animals to do wrong? That's highly disrespectful of The Lord. Also, homosexuality is common among other primates who have been proven to have consciences (ie shame and guilt).

WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOUSE IT SAY THAT THAY WERE RAPISTS? THAY WERE MEN LAYING WITH OTHER MEN! WHAT YOU ARE SAYING DOUSE NOT MAKE SINCE! ARE YOU SAYING THAT THAY WERE JUST GOING AROUND RAPEING EACH OTHER? IF THAT'S THE CASE THEN WHY DID GOD PUNISH THEM?

WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOUSE IT SAY THAT THAY WERE RAPISTS? THAY WERE MEN LAYING WITH OTHER MEN! WHAT YOU ARE SAYING DOUSE NOT MAKE SINCE! ARE YOU SAYING THAT THAY WERE JUST GOING AROUND RAPEING EACH OTHER? IF THAT'S THE CASE THEN WHY DID GOD PUNISH THEM?

WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOUSE IT SAY THAT THAY WERE RAPISTS? THAY WERE MEN LAYING WITH OTHER MEN! WHAT YOU ARE SAYING DOUSE NOT MAKE SINCE! ARE YOU SAYING THAT THAY WERE JUST GOING AROUND RAPEING EACH OTHER? IF THAT'S THE CASE THEN WHY DID GOD PUNISH THEM?

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+19&version=NIV

Read it man, unfortunately it looks like Magnolia is right. The city got purged because they wanted to rape not only the men but also Lot's wife and daughters.

Also, now you are completely avoiding the Homosexuality in animals issue, which to me shows a lack of logic. If you could explain to me why god would create dolphins to be gay rapists, despite the sin, then I would be happy.

>>261 Pretty much dude. Not only that, but Sodom was not a place that worshiped God. Back then, it had been hundreds of years since Adam and Eve's passing, so there were places that lived believing they were Godless. The destruction of that city didn't have anything to do with homosexuality, but corruption that was in their hearts. That's why the son in laws of Lot and Lot's wife didn't make it. They were all from Sodom.

(P.S.- http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs+6%3A16-19&version=NIV
God never hated homosexuals. And he certainly never said the word "fags". But he does hate " a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community. ")

You may not believe your mouth pours lies, but there is no arguing that you are disrupting our community. Ask anyone here. And I mean anyone. There's not a soul on this site, whether they're homosexual, straight, Christian, Atheist, Jewish, in support of gay marriage or against it- there's not a soul on this site that likes you.

You are something that God hates. Isn't that ironic?

I'm sorry, I obviously misread that. I missed the part where god also said "And the males shall rape other males to assert their dominance and vent their sexual anger and all dolphin kin shall join together and beat baby seals to death for fun."

>>269 OMG!!!! XDDDD

the certainty that all impenitent sodomites (under the elegant metaphor of "FAGS" as the contraction of faggots, fueling the fires of God's wrath) will inevitably go to Hell (e.g., Romans 1:18-32, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, 1 Timothy 1:8-11, Jude 7, etc.).

the certainty that all impenitent sodomites (under the elegant metaphor of "FAGS" as the contraction of faggots, fueling the fires of God's wrath) will inevitably go to Hell (e.g., Romans 1:18-32, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, 1 Timothy 1:8-11, Jude 7, etc.).

the certainty that all impenitent sodomites (under the elegant metaphor of "FAGS" as the contraction of faggots, fueling the fires of God's wrath) will inevitably go to Hell (e.g., Romans 1:18-32, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, 1 Timothy 1:8-11, Jude 7, etc.).

And there he goes. Ignoring the debate on animals and inserting his own words into the scriptures.

Now lies really are pouring out your mouth, so now you do two things that he hates.

Revelation 22:18-19 says, "For I testify unto everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book, if anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, and from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

Congratulations on that ticket to damnation.

>>272 Anybody who commits suicide is also sent to hell, anybody who has sex out of marriage is sent to hell, anybody that spurns their parents is sent to hell, anybody who misuses gods name will be sent to hell, anybody who wishes to follow different ideals will be sent to hell, anybody who acts like the other gender will be sent to hell, anybody who watches porn will be sent to hell and anybody who drinks will be sent to hell.

With all those options it seems odd that you are targeting just this one to spew hate all over, shouldn't you be focusing on some of the more widespread ones first?

http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/40SinsThatWillSendYouToHell.html
There is a long list of more things that will get a you a free ticket to hell if you need them.

>>277 You should look up 'Hellsong' by Urthboy, it captures this discussion perfectly.

>>278 What's worse is we don't know which faction of Christian or Judaism he belongs. I recognize several of those as being Catholic, but not Protestant, Protestant but not Baptist, Baptist but not Protestant or Catholic, etc.
Sigh...

>>280 Oh god, I thought protestants and Catholics were nearly the same. Didn't some Tudor (A Henry or a Charles or something) Just make the Protestant faith so he could divorce his wives because the Catholic church didn't let him?

Or have they just branched out since then?

i am focusing on this one because it is the most talked about subject.

i am focusing on this one because it is the most talked about subject.

i am focusing on this one because it is the most talked about subject.

>>284 You wouldn't consider sex out of marriage a more talked about subject? I mean, it is a pandemic plus the bible talks about it a hell of a lot more than homosexuality. In fact, Gay Marriage is only a very talked about subject because people like you are making an issue and talking about it. So to say that you only talked about it because it is talked about is a contradiction in itself.

>>279 I love it~ It gives a Gorillaz feel but with a The Heist message.
>>281 I thought it was Jewish people who couldn't divorce. Catholics can't use birth control. I'm not familiar with Protestants, but Baptists have started saying that Adam ate the apple on purpose to protect Eve.
>>284 Solace is right, but even if you wanted to "spread the gospel", 1) You're doing it wrong. As I've already proven, God does not hate homosexuals but hates those who spread hate. And 2) This is a website based of an anime community. What you're doing isn't missionary work at all.

IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT GAY MARRIAGE! BEING A FAR ITSELF IT THE MOST TALKED ABOUT SUBJECT IN ITSELF! ITS ALWAYS ON THE NEWS! NOW THERE LAYING FAGS JOIN BOYSCOUTS!

IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT GAY MARRIAGE! BEING A FAR ITSELF IT THE MOST TALKED ABOUT SUBJECT IN ITSELF! ITS ALWAYS ON THE NEWS! NOW THERE LAYING FAGS JOIN BOYSCOUTS!

IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT GAY MARRIAGE! BEING A FAR ITSELF IT THE MOST TALKED ABOUT SUBJECT IN ITSELF! ITS ALWAYS ON THE NEWS! NOW THERE LAYING FAGS JOIN BOYSCOUTS!

>>287 Oh so that Petition did work? Good for them.

THIS IS NOT GOOD NEWS! OUR KIDS CAN'T GO TO BOYCOTTS BECAUSE OF FAGS! DON'T YOU SEE THE FAGS ARE TAKING OVER AND RUINING EVERYTHING!

THIS IS NOT GOOD NEWS! OUR KIDS CAN'T GO TO BOYCOTTS BECAUSE OF FAGS! DON'T YOU SEE THE FAGS ARE TAKING OVER AND RUINING EVERYTHING!

THIS IS NOT GOOD NEWS! OUR KIDS CAN'T GO TO BOYCOTTS BECAUSE OF FAGS! DON'T YOU SEE THE FAGS ARE TAKING OVER AND RUINING EVERYTHING!

You can have your kids in boy scouts even if there are homosexual scouts or scout leaders. It's like saying "I can't have my kids there because (insert race) are there too!"
And if you don't like it, then don't have your boy become a scout.

In fact, if you don't like it, why are you even here?

THERE IS NO BOYSCOUTS BECAUSE THE FAGS TOOK THAT AWAY FROM OUR KIDS! WE WILL MISS THE DAY WHEN OUR KIDS WOULD GO TO BOYSCOUTS WHERE THAY LORNED ABOUT SURVIVAL! BUT THOSE DAYS ARE OVER THANKS TO FAGS! THE FAGS HAVE TURNED BOYSCOUTS INTO FAGSCOUTS! INSTEAD OF LEARNING HOW TO SURVIVE THAY NOW LEARN HOW TO FUCK EACH OTHER IN THE ASS!

THERE IS NO BOYSCOUTS BECAUSE THE FAGS TOOK THAT AWAY FROM OUR KIDS! WE WILL MISS THE DAY WHEN OUR KIDS WOULD GO TO BOYSCOUTS WHERE THAY LORNED ABOUT SURVIVAL! BUT THOSE DAYS ARE OVER THANKS TO FAGS! THE FAGS HAVE TURNED BOYSCOUTS INTO FAGSCOUTS! INSTEAD OF LEARNING HOW TO SURVIVE THAY NOW LEARN HOW TO FUCK EACH OTHER IN THE ASS!

THERE IS NO BOYSCOUTS BECAUSE THE FAGS TOOK THAT AWAY FROM OUR KIDS! WE WILL MISS THE DAY WHEN OUR KIDS WOULD GO TO BOYSCOUTS WHERE THAY LORNED ABOUT SURVIVAL! BUT THOSE DAYS ARE OVER THANKS TO FAGS! THE FAGS HAVE TURNED BOYSCOUTS INTO FAGSCOUTS! INSTEAD OF LEARNING HOW TO SURVIVE THAY NOW LEARN HOW TO FUCK EACH OTHER IN THE ASS!

>>295 that is a good question. if he doesn't like it then why is he here?

THERE IS NO BOYSCOUTS BECAUSE THE FAGS TOOK THAT AWAY FROM OUR KIDS! WE WILL MISS THE DAY WHEN OUR KIDS WOULD GO TO BOYSCOUTS WHERE THAY LORNED ABOUT SURVIVAL! BUT THOSE DAYS ARE OVER THANKS TO FAGS! THE FAGS HAVE TURNED BOYSCOUTS INTO FAGSCOUTS! INSTEAD OF LEARNING HOW TO SURVIVE THAY NOW LEARN HOW TO FUCK EACH OTHER IN THE ASS!

THERE IS NO BOYSCOUTS BECAUSE THE FAGS TOOK THAT AWAY FROM OUR KIDS! WE WILL MISS THE DAY WHEN OUR KIDS WOULD GO TO BOYSCOUTS WHERE THAY LORNED ABOUT SURVIVAL! BUT THOSE DAYS ARE OVER THANKS TO FAGS! THE FAGS HAVE TURNED BOYSCOUTS INTO FAGSCOUTS! INSTEAD OF LEARNING HOW TO SURVIVE THAY NOW LEARN HOW TO FUCK EACH OTHER IN THE ASS!

THERE IS NO BOYSCOUTS BECAUSE THE FAGS TOOK THAT AWAY FROM OUR KIDS! WE WILL MISS THE DAY WHEN OUR KIDS WOULD GO TO BOYSCOUTS WHERE THAY LORNED ABOUT SURVIVAL! BUT THOSE DAYS ARE OVER THANKS TO FAGS! THE FAGS HAVE TURNED BOYSCOUTS INTO FAGSCOUTS! INSTEAD OF LEARNING HOW TO SURVIVE THAY NOW LEARN HOW TO FUCK EACH OTHER IN THE ASS!

So how 'bout dem lesbians?

>>305 oh look a hill billy XD

>>306 so your gust a fag no your the f**king ruler of all the fags.

Guys. He's demented and lonely. Solace & I were trying to see if he was a troll or someone you could reason with. He's definitely the former. Ignore him for the next few months and he'll disappear. Nobody likes him anyway, so just dont talk to em.

Six Steps of Repentance: Feel Godly Sorrow"For I will declare mine iniquity; I will be sorry for my sin." (Psalms 38:18)The first step of repentance is to recognize that you've committed a sin against God's commandments.Feel true sorrow for what you've done and for disobeying Heavenly Father.Feel sorrow for any pain you may have caused toward other people.Confess to God"By this ye may know if a man repenteth of his sins—behold, he will confess them and forsake them." (D&C 58:43)Pray to Heavenly Father and be honest with him.Tell him of your sins and   ask for Forgiveness"And it came to pass that I did frankly forgive them all that they had done, and I did exhort them that they would pray unto the Lord their God for forgiveness." (1 Nephi 7:21)Pray to God for his forgiveness.Forgive others who have hurt you.Forgive yourself and know that God loves you, even though you've sinned.Rectify Problems Caused by the Sin(s)"And if it be stolen from him, he shall make restitution unto the owner thereof." (Exodus 22:12)Make restitution by fixing any problems caused by your sin.Problems caused by sin include physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual damage.If you can't rectify the problem sincerely ask forgiveness of those wronged and try to find another way to show your change of heart.Forsake Sin"He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy." (Proverbs 28:13)Make a promise to yourself and to God that you will never repeat the sin.Recommit yourself to obeying God's commandments.Continue to repent if you sin again.Receive Forgiveness"Behold, he who has repented of his sins, the same is forgiven, and I, the Lord, remember them no more." (D&C 58:42)The Lord will forgive you when you truly repent with a sincere heart.Allow his forgiveness to come upon you.When you feel at peace with yourself you can know you are forgiven.Don't hold onto your sin and the sorrow you've felt. Let it go by truly forgiving yourself, just as the Lord has forgiven you.

Six Steps of Repentance: Feel Godly Sorrow"For I will declare mine iniquity; I will be sorry for my sin." (Psalms 38:18)The first step of repentance is to recognize that you've committed a sin against God's commandments.Feel true sorrow for what you've done and for disobeying Heavenly Father.Feel sorrow for any pain you may have caused toward other people.Confess to God"By this ye may know if a man repenteth of his sins—behold, he will confess them and forsake them." (D&C 58:43)Pray to Heavenly Father and be honest with him.Tell him of your sins and   ask for Forgiveness"And it came to pass that I did frankly forgive them all that they had done, and I did exhort them that they would pray unto the Lord their God for forgiveness." (1 Nephi 7:21)Pray to God for his forgiveness.Forgive others who have hurt you.Forgive yourself and know that God loves you, even though you've sinned.Rectify Problems Caused by the Sin(s)"And if it be stolen from him, he shall make restitution unto the owner thereof." (Exodus 22:12)Make restitution by fixing any problems caused by your sin.Problems caused by sin include physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual damage.If you can't rectify the problem sincerely ask forgiveness of those wronged and try to find another way to show your change of heart.Forsake Sin"He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy." (Proverbs 28:13)Make a promise to yourself and to God that you will never repeat the sin.Recommit yourself to obeying God's commandments.Continue to repent if you sin again.Receive Forgiveness"Behold, he who has repented of his sins, the same is forgiven, and I, the Lord, remember them no more." (D&C 58:42)The Lord will forgive you when you truly repent with a sincere heart.Allow his forgiveness to come upon you.When you feel at peace with yourself you can know you are forgiven.Don't hold onto your sin and the sorrow you've felt. Let it go by truly forgiving yourself, just as the Lord has forgiven you.

Six Steps of Repentance: Feel Godly Sorrow"For I will declare mine iniquity; I will be sorry for my sin." (Psalms 38:18)The first step of repentance is to recognize that you've committed a sin against God's commandments.Feel true sorrow for what you've done and for disobeying Heavenly Father.Feel sorrow for any pain you may have caused toward other people.Confess to God"By this ye may know if a man repenteth of his sins—behold, he will confess them and forsake them." (D&C 58:43)Pray to Heavenly Father and be honest with him.Tell him of your sins and   ask for Forgiveness"And it came to pass that I did frankly forgive them all that they had done, and I did exhort them that they would pray unto the Lord their God for forgiveness." (1 Nephi 7:21)Pray to God for his forgiveness.Forgive others who have hurt you.Forgive yourself and know that God loves you, even though you've sinned.Rectify Problems Caused by the Sin(s)"And if it be stolen from him, he shall make restitution unto the owner thereof." (Exodus 22:12)Make restitution by fixing any problems caused by your sin.Problems caused by sin include physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual damage.If you can't rectify the problem sincerely ask forgiveness of those wronged and try to find another way to show your change of heart.Forsake Sin"He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy." (Proverbs 28:13)Make a promise to yourself and to God that you will never repeat the sin.Recommit yourself to obeying God's commandments.Continue to repent if you sin again.Receive Forgiveness"Behold, he who has repented of his sins, the same is forgiven, and I, the Lord, remember them no more." (D&C 58:42)The Lord will forgive you when you truly repent with a sincere heart.Allow his forgiveness to come upon you.When you feel at peace with yourself you can know you are forgiven.Don't hold onto your sin and the sorrow you've felt. Let it go by truly forgiving yourself, just as the Lord has forgiven you.

Five tenets of the Dark Brotherhood:

Tenet 1: Never dishonor the Night Mother. To do so is to invoke the Wrath of Sithis.

Tenet 2: Never betray the Dark Brotherhood or its secrets. To do so is to invoke the Wrath of Sithis.

Tenet 3: Never disobey or refuse to carry out an order from a Dark Brotherhood superior. To do so is to invoke the Wrath of Sithis.

Tenet 4: Never steal the possessions of a Dark Brother or Dark Sister. To do so is to invoke the Wrath of Sithis.

Tenet 5: Never kill a Dark Brother or Dark Sister. To do so is to invoke the Wrath of Sithis.

>>312 Good ol' Lucien

Six Steps of Repentance: Feel Godly Sorrow"For I will declare mine iniquity; I will be sorry for my sin." (Psalms 38:18)The first step of repentance is to recognize that you've committed a sin against God's commandments.Feel true sorrow for what you've done and for disobeying Heavenly Father.Feel sorrow for any pain you may have caused toward other people.Confess to God"By this ye may know if a man repenteth of his sins—behold, he will confess them and forsake them." (D&C 58:43)Pray to Heavenly Father and be honest with him.Tell him of your sins and   ask for Forgiveness"And it came to pass that I did frankly forgive them all that they had done, and I did exhort them that they would pray unto the Lord their God for forgiveness." (1 Nephi 7:21)Pray to God for his forgiveness.Forgive others who have hurt you.Forgive yourself and know that God loves you, even though you've sinned.Rectify Problems Caused by the Sin(s)"And if it be stolen from him, he shall make restitution unto the owner thereof." (Exodus 22:12)Make restitution by fixing any problems caused by your sin.Problems caused by sin include physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual damage.If you can't rectify the problem sincerely ask forgiveness of those wronged and try to find another way to show your change of heart.Forsake Sin"He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy." (Proverbs 28:13)Make a promise to yourself and to God that you will never repeat the sin.Recommit yourself to obeying God's commandments.Continue to repent if you sin again.Receive Forgiveness"Behold, he who has repented of his sins, the same is forgiven, and I, the Lord, remember them no more." (D&C 58:42)The Lord will forgive you when you truly repent with a sincere heart.Allow his forgiveness to come upon you.When you feel at peace with yourself you can know you are forgiven.Don't hold onto your sin and the sorrow you've felt. Let it go by truly forgiving yourself, just as the Lord has forgiven you.

Six Steps of Repentance: Feel Godly Sorrow"For I will declare mine iniquity; I will be sorry for my sin." (Psalms 38:18)The first step of repentance is to recognize that you've committed a sin against God's commandments.Feel true sorrow for what you've done and for disobeying Heavenly Father.Feel sorrow for any pain you may have caused toward other people.Confess to God"By this ye may know if a man repenteth of his sins—behold, he will confess them and forsake them." (D&C 58:43)Pray to Heavenly Father and be honest with him.Tell him of your sins and   ask for Forgiveness"And it came to pass that I did frankly forgive them all that they had done, and I did exhort them that they would pray unto the Lord their God for forgiveness." (1 Nephi 7:21)Pray to God for his forgiveness.Forgive others who have hurt you.Forgive yourself and know that God loves you, even though you've sinned.Rectify Problems Caused by the Sin(s)"And if it be stolen from him, he shall make restitution unto the owner thereof." (Exodus 22:12)Make restitution by fixing any problems caused by your sin.Problems caused by sin include physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual damage.If you can't rectify the problem sincerely ask forgiveness of those wronged and try to find another way to show your change of heart.Forsake Sin"He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy." (Proverbs 28:13)Make a promise to yourself and to God that you will never repeat the sin.Recommit yourself to obeying God's commandments.Continue to repent if you sin again.Receive Forgiveness"Behold, he who has repented of his sins, the same is forgiven, and I, the Lord, remember them no more." (D&C 58:42)The Lord will forgive you when you truly repent with a sincere heart.Allow his forgiveness to come upon you.When you feel at peace with yourself you can know you are forgiven.Don't hold onto your sin and the sorrow you've felt. Let it go by truly forgiving yourself, just as the Lord has forgiven you.

Six Steps of Repentance: Feel Godly Sorrow"For I will declare mine iniquity; I will be sorry for my sin." (Psalms 38:18)The first step of repentance is to recognize that you've committed a sin against God's commandments.Feel true sorrow for what you've done and for disobeying Heavenly Father.Feel sorrow for any pain you may have caused toward other people.Confess to God"By this ye may know if a man repenteth of his sins—behold, he will confess them and forsake them." (D&C 58:43)Pray to Heavenly Father and be honest with him.Tell him of your sins and   ask for Forgiveness"And it came to pass that I did frankly forgive them all that they had done, and I did exhort them that they would pray unto the Lord their God for forgiveness." (1 Nephi 7:21)Pray to God for his forgiveness.Forgive others who have hurt you.Forgive yourself and know that God loves you, even though you've sinned.Rectify Problems Caused by the Sin(s)"And if it be stolen from him, he shall make restitution unto the owner thereof." (Exodus 22:12)Make restitution by fixing any problems caused by your sin.Problems caused by sin include physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual damage.If you can't rectify the problem sincerely ask forgiveness of those wronged and try to find another way to show your change of heart.Forsake Sin"He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy." (Proverbs 28:13)Make a promise to yourself and to God that you will never repeat the sin.Recommit yourself to obeying God's commandments.Continue to repent if you sin again.Receive Forgiveness"Behold, he who has repented of his sins, the same is forgiven, and I, the Lord, remember them no more." (D&C 58:42)The Lord will forgive you when you truly repent with a sincere heart.Allow his forgiveness to come upon you.When you feel at peace with yourself you can know you are forgiven.Don't hold onto your sin and the sorrow you've felt. Let it go by truly forgiving yourself, just as the Lord has forgiven you.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/01/brad-taylor-and-dylan-meehan-cutest-couple_n_3372220.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
When 18-year-old Chelsea posted a photo of her classmates Brad Taylor And Dylan Meehan to her Tumblr blog this week, she did not anticipate the incredible response it would receive -- within 24 hours, the entry had been shared almost 100,000 times.

The image was taken from her high school yearbook, and she included this caption:

Two of my best friends won Cutest Couple of our senior class. First time in my school history a same sex couple has even been able to run for this category, not to mention winning it. So proud of them, and my school.

"This whole thing has been a bit surreal for us because we have been raised to believe that love is love. We never realized that our happiness and openness would inspire so many individuals. The support we have received from our family, friends, and even strangers has led us to believe that our affection for each other is normal ... When we started dating a year [ago], the thought of a photo of us traveling throughout the world would be a bit frightening, but now we are proud to be part of the LGBT community. "

(Here's just something funny I found XD)

When some think of gay marriage, most likely the word "pirates" come to mind. But come to find out, homosexuality amongst the crew was something accepted within the Caribbean waters.

You see, pirates had a form of civil partnership called "matelotage", a marriage-like institution wherein two male pirates shared all of their ... OK, we need to think of another word for "booty" here -- let's go with "loot." Additionally, each would name the other as his sole inheritor. While this makes a good I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry kind of economic sense, in as much as it was essentially the only kind of financial security a pirate could hope for, some commentators argue that these relationships were also romantic in nature, possibly because matelots could routinely be observed having sex with each other.

In 1645, the French government of Tortuga decided to import thousands of prostitutes to try to neutralize the rampant homosexuality, because this was the type of response that governments had to things. Not that it's likely to have made a great deal of difference, though -- pirates in a matelotage shared everything, including wives. Adding mixed threesomes to the gay love-in was probably not the outcome France was going for, but, France being France, we can never truly be certain.

Read more: http://www.cracked.com/article_20448_5-ways-pirates-were-way-more-modern-than-you-realize.html#ixzz2V5OcZfpJ

GOD

HATES

FAGS!

Let me just point out this right quick,
God made everyone,right?
In the bible it states that he loves his creations with all his heart,right? If so,then why would he hate homosexuals? They're people,too. Yes,being gay is a sin but we all sin everyday and he forgives us. So,no,God doesn't hate "fags" he dislikes the sin,not the people.
Oh,and God doesn't hate at all. He actually says no one should ever hate.

>>317 Good for them. Good school too, I'm surprised.

>>318 Next Talk Like A Pirate Day, I think I'll bring this up.
>>322 Sorry, but don't bother trying to reason.

GOD HATES SINNERS BECAUSE OF THERE SIN! FANS ARE SINNERS THEREFORE GOD HATES THEM! AND YOU SAY THAT GOD WILL FORGIVE YOU? NO YOU HAVE TO ASK FOR FORGIVENESS! HE WILL NOT FORGIVE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT FORGIVENESS!

GOD HATES SINNERS BECAUSE OF THERE SIN! FANS ARE SINNERS THEREFORE GOD HATES THEM! AND YOU SAY THAT GOD WILL FORGIVE YOU? NO YOU HAVE TO ASK FOR FORGIVENESS! HE WILL NOT FORGIVE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT FORGIVENESS!

GOD HATES SINNERS BECAUSE OF THERE SIN! FANS ARE SINNERS THEREFORE GOD HATES THEM! AND YOU SAY THAT GOD WILL FORGIVE YOU? NO YOU HAVE TO ASK FOR FORGIVENESS! HE WILL NOT FORGIVE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT FORGIVENESS!

>>322 Yeah don't bother. I'm asking the admin if he'll get a moderator just for banning this guy so he'll never be seen. It'll all be over soon.

GOD HATES SINNERS BECAUSE OF THERE SIN! FAGS ARE SINNERS THEREFORE GOD HATES THEM! AND YOU SAY THAT GOD WILL FORGIVE YOU? NO YOU HAVE TO ASK FOR FORGIVENESS! HE WILL NOT FORGIVE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT FORGIVENESS!

GOD HATES SINNERS BECAUSE OF THERE SIN! FAGS ARE SINNERS THEREFORE GOD HATES THEM! AND YOU SAY THAT GOD WILL FORGIVE YOU? NO YOU HAVE TO ASK FOR FORGIVENESS! HE WILL NOT FORGIVE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT FORGIVENESS!

GOD HATES SINNERS BECAUSE OF THERE SIN! FAGS ARE SINNERS THEREFORE GOD HATES THEM! AND YOU SAY THAT GOD WILL FORGIVE YOU? NO YOU HAVE TO ASK FOR FORGIVENESS! HE WILL NOT FORGIVE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT FORGIVENESS!

>>323 I know right? I need to look up which state that school was in.

How could you guys be so horrible. Even if those are your views, why would you say something that terribl honestly those of you saying fags and sinners, we are all sinners, and God loves all his children, so stop being extremists and using the bible to justify what you feel for homosexuals.

>>333 Stop replying and read >>328

DID YOU NOT HEAR ME! GOD HATES SINNERS! HE WILL SEND THEM TO HELL!

DID YOU NOT HEAR ME! GOD HATES SINNERS! HE WILL SEND THEM TO HELL!

DID YOU NOT HEAR ME! GOD HATES SINNERS! HE WILL SEND THEM TO HELL!

Stop replying and read >>328

FOOLS! YOU CAN NOT STOP ME!

FOOLS! YOU CAN NOT STOP ME!

FOOLS! YOU CAN NOT STOP ME!

Allow us to bow down before your allmighty power o' great one.

that's right bow down before me! i rule The Dollars!

no you don't nether do i who know who theleader is.

Didn't you know? It's GHF. He has proven himself superior with his quick wit, open mind and monsterable intellect.

IM A GIRL NOT A BOY! AND GOD STILL HATES FAGS!

And look how he handles being provoked? Truly, he is a legend among mere mortals. The next great prophet if I may say so myself.

thanks for telling me Solace.

SEND YOUR CHILDREN TO FAGSCOUTS! SO THAY CAN FUCK EACH OTHER IN THE ASS AND GIVE EACH OTHER AIDS AND DIE!

SEND YOUR CHILDREN TO FAGSCOUTS! SO THAY CAN FUCK EACH OTHER IN THE ASS AND GIVE EACH OTHER AIDS AND DIE!

SEND YOUR CHILDREN TO FAGSCOUTS! SO THAY CAN FUCK EACH OTHER IN THE ASS AND GIVE EACH OTHER AIDS AND DIE!

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cxcx

ARE YOU FAGS HAPPY NOW! YOU TOOK AWAY BOYSCOUTS AND REPLACED IT WITH FAGSCOUTS! YOU DID IT BECAUSE YOU LOVE YOUR FILTHY SIN! AND YOU WANT SHOW OTHER BOYS HOW TO FUCK EACH OTHER IN THE ASS!

ARE YOU FAGS HAPPY NOW! YOU TOOK AWAY BOYSCOUTS AND REPLACED IT WITH FAGSCOUTS! YOU DID IT BECAUSE YOU LOVE YOUR FILTHY SIN! AND YOU WANT SHOW OTHER BOYS HOW TO FUCK EACH OTHER IN THE ASS!

ARE YOU FAGS HAPPY NOW! YOU TOOK AWAY BOYSCOUTS AND REPLACED IT WITH FAGSCOUTS! YOU DID IT BECAUSE YOU LOVE YOUR FILTHY SIN! AND YOU WANT SHOW OTHER BOYS HOW TO FUCK EACH OTHER IN THE ASS!

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"Ok kids today we will learn how to penetrate your partner. But before we do that let me just say that what we are doing is not a bad thing. this is nothing to be ashamed of. remember love is love its okay to be in love with the same sex.Now let us begain first you will undress your partner. now have your partnerp partner bend over then take your penuis and ever so gently put it into your partners anus. your partner may feel a slite discomephert but just take it niceand slow and soon it will be pleasurable for both you and your partner. keep thrusting until you feel like your about to cum. then thrust even faster when you feel your cum comeing out that's when you know that you have seccsefuly penetrated your partner" THIS IS WHAT YOUR KIDS ARE DOING IN FAGSCOUTS!

"Ok kids today we will learn how to penetrate your partner. But before we do that let me just say that what we are doing is not a bad thing. this is nothing to be ashamed of. remember love is love its okay to be in love with the same sex.Now let us begain first you will undress your partner. now have your partnerp partner bend over then take your penuis and ever so gently put it into your partners anus. your partner may feel a slite discomephert but just take it niceand slow and soon it will be pleasurable for both you and your partner. keep thrusting until you feel like your about to cum. then thrust even faster when you feel your cum comeing out that's when you know that you have seccsefuly penetrated your partner" THIS IS WHAT YOUR KIDS ARE DOING IN FAGSCOUTS!

"Ok kids today we will learn how to penetrate your partner. But before we do that let me just say that what we are doing is not a bad thing. this is nothing to be ashamed of. remember love is love its okay to be in love with the same sex.Now let us begain first you will undress your partner. now have your partnerp partner bend over then take your penuis and ever so gently put it into your partners anus. your partner may feel a slite discomephert but just take it niceand slow and soon it will be pleasurable for both you and your partner. keep thrusting until you feel like your about to cum. then thrust even faster when you feel your cum comeing out that's when you know that you have seccsefuly penetrated your partner" THIS IS WHAT YOUR KIDS ARE DOING IN FAGSCOUTS!

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>>351 I don't...get the drawing. What is that?

thats why we gotta stand up for them when they cant its not fair that they have no rights in a FREE COUNTRY

I'm actually starting to find God Hates Fags kind of funny. At first I was just shocked but now that is kind of worn off he's getting pretty hilarious.

>>372 Um. No.

I>>373 I think we just need to brush him off the best we can,it's just a troll. give Reltair some time to take care of the problem and we should be fine.

Guys, the minute you get angry and start protesting, he's already won in his mind. The example of Hitler, what is the thing he would hate most? Being made fun of and not being taken seriously, that's why I am not afraid to laugh at Hitler jokes (Don't get them confused with holocaust jokes). Just treat GHF and his views like the almost comic disappointment he is if you truly want a victory.

Or not, he's probably besties with god so you might not want to fuck with him.

>>376 How I see it, is he's a sad lonely little boy who desires communication. But instead of "communicating", he just goes around shouting bullshit. And occasionally uses other people's names when he actually wants to interact with people.
I say we ignore him. It's not all that hard. Nobody here likes him. If you talk with him Gambit and call him amusing, you might give him the wrong impression.

>>377 Laughing at him and with him are completely different. Also, not sure if there is a good way to send him the right impression, nothing seems to have worked before. Even ignoring him doesn't seem to bore him.

>>378 All I know is he's retarded. So I just dont even laugh at him, because he may not understand your sarcasm. Remember when he gave you a smiley face that one time? You're the only one to have received one.
*smacks you* Bad Gambit. Bad.

Anyway, shouldnt we stop talking bout him?

>>379 HE GAVE ME A SMILEY FACE???

>>380 But yeah we probably should.

Man, it's been a while since anybody actually talked about gay rights...

>>381 (LOL Yeah he did!)

Pssst... I posted piratey shit. Had to do with gay rights... Sorta. XD

Here. A copy/paste of some important parts from the first source listed:

In the Pennsylvania Legislature, a bill has been introduced that would outlaw many forms of discrimination against LGBT people that are allowed by current state law. In Philadelphia, a newly signed LGBT rights city law is described as one of the strongest in the nation. The law provides equal hospital visitation rights to same sex couples, requires gender neutral designations on city forms, and mandates that all new city construction have gender neutral bathrooms. It also makes Philadelphia the first city in America to create tax incentives for businesses to offer LGBT-inclusive health care options.

http://www.keystonepolitics.com/2013/05/philly-expands-lgbt-rights-pa-housesenate-might/

http://cityofphiladelphia.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/mayor-nutter-signs-bill-on-lgbt-rights/

they only accept the same sex marriage because there are some feelings that can't be avoided even though it's wrong.

But we know it's wrong so even though it's legal, that doesn't mean ok either so it's best not to do it

>>384 The hell is a gender neutral bathroom?

>>386 One anyone can go into. One of the main reasons for them is gender-neutral bathrooms are supposed to ease the society pressure of which bathroom transgenders should use. I think.

>>387And it'll have multiple stalls? But guy bathrooms are horrible...

>>388 I think so. You know what they say: guy janitors think girl bathrooms are dirtier, girl janitors think guy bathrooms are worse. So who knows, it's all perspective.

I can see one major downside to gender neutral bathrooms, though, in that they'd be a good excuse for creepers.

>>389 Any bathroom is a good excuse for creepers. And rape.

People make fun of same sex couples to much, it disgusts me. I'm not one myself but love conqures all.~^^

"Ok kids today we will learn how to penetrate your partner. But before we do that let me just say that what we are doing is not a bad thing. this is nothing to be ashamed of. remember love is love its okay to be in love with the same sex.Now let us begain first you will undress your partner. now have your partnerp partner bend over then take your penuis and ever so gently put it into your partners anus. your partner may feel a slite discomephert but just take it niceand slow and soon it will be pleasurable for both you and your partner. keep thrusting until you feel like your about to cum. then thrust even faster when you feel your cum comeing out that's when you know that you have seccsefuly penetrated your partner" THIS IS WHAT YOUR KIDS ARE DOING IN FAGSCOUTS!

Ok kids today we will learn how to penetrate your partner. But before we do that let me just say that what we are doing is not a bad thing. this is nothing to be ashamed of. remember love is love its okay to be in love with the same sex.Now let us begain first you will undress your partner. now have your partnerp partner bend over then take your penuis and ever so gently put it into your partners anus. your partner may feel a slite discomephert but just take it niceand slow and soon it will be pleasurable for both you and your partner. keep thrusting until you feel like your about to cum. then thrust even faster when you feel your cum comeing out that's when you know that you have seccsefuly penetrated your partner" THIS IS WHAT YOUR KIDS ARE DOING IN FAGSCOUTS!

Ok kids today we will learn how to penetrate your partner. But before we do that let me just say that what we are doing is not a bad thing. this is nothing to be ashamed of. remember love is love its okay to be in love with the same sex.Now let us begain first you will undress your partner. now have your partnerp partner bend over then take your penuis and ever so gently put it into your partners anus. your partner may feel a slite discomephert but just take it niceand slow and soon it will be pleasurable for both you and your partner. keep thrusting until you feel like your about to cum. then thrust even faster when you feel your cum comeing out that's when you know that you have seccsefuly penetrated your partner" THIS IS WHAT YOUR KIDS ARE DOING IN FAGSCOUTS!

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TEACH YOU SON HOW TO FUCK ANOTHER BOY!

FAGS DON'T BELONG IN THE DOLLARES!

WE THE DOLLARS DO NOT PROMOTE SIN!

>>406 Dude. Small itty bitty request? When you arent contributing to the thread, dont bump it.
I need the thread outlining what is news and not on top, since people are confused by its definition.

This is a message from all the gay community to GHF-

God isnt a hateful person you are and hell is waiting for you, so shut your nigger ass up you cunt, and pull that horse cock out of your mouth chick you make us stright people look bad- signed your personal leader

>>408 "Nigger"? Why the fuck you gotta bring race into it? God, I want to support the lgbt less and less because of y'all!

Delete that shit. You don't even speak for the gay community with a shitpost that pathetic.

DEAR FAGS WE HATE YOU SO FUCKING MUCH! EVERYTHING IS YOUR FALT! BECAUSE OF YOU WE DON'T HAVE BOYSCOUTS WE ARE SO ANGRY RIGHT NOW! AND HOW DARE YOU FAGS WANT US TO SUPPORT YOU! WE WILL NEVER DO THAT! YOU ARE FILTHY HUMANS AND YOU ARE BELOW US! WE DON'T WANT YOUR KIND HERE! SO GO SOME WHERE ELSE!

-The Dollars-

DEAR FAGS WE HATE YOU SO FUCKING MUCH! EVERYTHING IS YOUR FALT! BECAUSE OF YOU WE DON'T HAVE BOYSCOUTS WE ARE SO ANGRY RIGHT NOW! AND HOW DARE YOU FAGS WANT US TO SUPPORT YOU! WE WILL NEVER DO THAT! YOU ARE FILTHY HUMANS AND YOU ARE BELOW US! WE DON'T WANT YOUR KIND HERE! SO GO SOME WHERE ELSE!

-The Dollars-

DEAR FAGS WE HATE YOU SO FUCKING MUCH! EVERYTHING IS YOUR FALT! BECAUSE OF YOU WE DON'T HAVE BOYSCOUTS WE ARE SO ANGRY RIGHT NOW! AND HOW DARE YOU FAGS WANT US TO SUPPORT YOU! WE WILL NEVER DO THAT! YOU ARE FILTHY HUMANS AND YOU ARE BELOW US! WE DON'T WANT YOUR KIND HERE! SO GO SOME WHERE ELSE!

-The Dollars-

Dammit, Pennsylvania. I thought you were progressing ( >>384 ), but I guess a state won't work evenly. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/06/04/pa-school-board-wont-let-transgender-student-male-name-be-read-during/

GOD

HATES

FAGS!

Let's play the "ignore this sadistic, homophobic,false prophet,son-of-a-bitch" game.
It's quite fun,really.

>>423 for fucks sake man, you are helping absolutely nothing by being so blatantly fucking obvious about every god damn thing you do. Guess what its accomplishing? Encouraging him to do more you say? Well youre fucking right. Quit being so damn retarded and ingore his posts for once in your life.

Maryland has come a long way, we finally legalized gay marriage and people can start getting married this month, so I'm excited.
And so excited my home country, in a sense, France has finally legalized gay marriage, but considering what the country does based on stereotypes this took way to long. But it passed and that's all I care about.

Love is love i think every one should love each other not be hateful.

>>428 No offence but I hate that idea. Love is a powerful human emotion, it is still just an emotion. It has been glorified because it is so purely pleasurable for us, and humanity relies a great deal on pleasure as an incentive for living. People need to remember it is just an emotion however, and if everybody loved each other it would have the same result as any "too much of a good thing" scenario. Humanity relies on all the negative emotions to fuel itself, they are just as necessary. Just because they aren't as pleasant doesn't need we need them less. By shunning them because you don't like them you are parting with a great deal of the logical and ambitious side of your brain. Balance is important in all areas, emotions are no exception.

Got kind of sidetracked but stand by my point.

>>427 is this Thomas guy dead? if so he's in hell because he's a filthy fag!

ALL FAGS GO TO HELL!

TURN OR BURN!

GOD HATES FAGS!

>>432 And what proof do you have of this?

>>435 >>431

How many times do we have to say this? Ignore the bastard, and he'll go away. Give him attention and he won't go away. Plain and simple.

I only just figured out what LGBT stood for. I was so confused for so long, it was like BBS; so many acronyms!

What does LGBT stand for.

>>438 google

>>438 It's short for Lesbian Gay Bi Trans (I think?). So basically it's something like a community for people with other sexualities except heterosexual for example :3

GOD HATES LGBT! THERE ALL GOING TO HELL!

GOD HATES LGBT! THERE ALL GOING TO HELL!

GOD HATES LGBT! THERE ALL GOING TO HELL!

GHF, can you please be a little less obnoxious? I respect your opinion about people like me but you do not have to try and shove it down someones throats. Do I shove being gay/Lesbian/Bisexual down peoples throats? No, so I advise you do the same as me. Keep your opinion but please don't try to get everyone butthurt over it just because you are bored C:
Sincerely,
A Bisexual 13 year old who actually RESPECTS someone opinion.

>>446 Please just ignore GHF

>>442 I thought they added the LGBTQIA this year. For the Intersex and Androgynous. But the A doesn't need to be added if you ask me.

If they are going to add in that many, why not just call it Sexual Minority Groups (SMG) or something like that>

>>449 If you look up the definition there are so many groups that they just shorten it to the majority ones. Hence LGBT. Plus SMG sounds stupid cause it would be sexual majority group and isn't smg a type of phone or something.

>>446 PIG FUCKERS LIKE YOU ARE ALWAYS SHOVING YOUR FAGATRIE DOWN OUR THROATS! YOU FAGS ARE ALWAYS BRAGGING ABOUT HOW YOUR SO PROUD YOU ARE TO BE GAY! WELL WE'RE SICK AND TIRED OF IT! YOU AND YOUR KIND WILL PAY FOR YOUR SIN! SO REMEMBER THAT GOD HATES YOU AND THAT HE WILL SEND YOU TO HELL! WHERE YOU BELONG!

>>453 Sorry, but now she's yelling at kids? Calm your tits woman.

>>454
Moron. IGNORE HIM DIPSHIT.

Now this post may be recognizing him, and may sound ironic, but oh well.

I wish people like you, who talk to him, reply to his posts, and over all acknowledge his existence would just be banned from this site.

We really need some rule about talking to him, and if you do, you're banned. Because for fuck's sake, just ignore him.

>>455 Hey that's why I said I'm sorry beforehand.

>>454 GO TO HELL FAG LOVER!

>>459 GO TO HELL!

>>462 GOD HATES YOU! YOU WILL GO TO HELL!

>>461 YOU LOVE ALL BUT YOU HATE THE FAGS! JUST SAY YOU HATE THE FAGS! I KNOW YOU DO!

People, stop fucking responding to him. It doesn't work, you won't chase him away.

>>462 What do people do at pride events? I have never really been sure on that subject.

>>466 walk around n have pride? Its really like the rose parade... just with more gay stuff

PRIDE IS ONE OF THE DEADLY SINS!

YOUR GOING YO HELL!

GOD HATES FAGS!

Ahh such good laughs i'm getting from GHF it's just too funny. Someone obviously has to much time on their hands XD

>>474 I know right! He has no job

>>474>>475 FAG LOVERS!

>>476 I know right! We are so cute.

>>477 you do realizing what you are doing isnt helping, correct?

>>479 being more friendly is just as bad. Cease your actions

Just.. go away faraday

GOD

HATES

FAGS!

Back on topic. Maryland Pride Parade is tomorrow and I can't wait. Uhh...I think that's about all I know. Magnolia I appreciated the piece about the pirates that was really cool.

http://news.yahoo.com/pope-wades-diplomatically-gay-marriage-debate-125515261.html
This talks about the pope's views on gay marriage and how gay marriage may soon be passed in England and Wales.

I hope gay marriage is passed here (in England). It would be wrong for it not to be. Who has the right to control one persons love for another, whether it be heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual.

>>488 It probably will happen because (take no offense) but England, is just a copy-cat of France, so it'll happen sooner or later. Probably sooner though...

A few years back, my state took a poll and it said that only 36% of the population approved, which is sad. I guess that's only to be expected when you live in a republican state.

>>488 Well, France recently legalized gay marriage and adoption but it led to lots of rioting and such. Then again, the French riot if they didn't like the food the cafeteria was serving so...just don't take their riots super seriously.

Anyway, it's bound to happen sooner or later in America considering the younger generation is overwhelmingly in favour of legalizing gay marriage and the major opponents will die off because they're getting old.

>>491 Yeah, the proof that my generation is a lot more accepting is at my middle school. We had a gay couple and 90% of the kids there didn't bat an eyelash. I do have to say that I am jealous of their courage to come out of the closet. I had a hard enough time telling my best friend that I like girls .3.

Aren't gay couples regular these days at highschool?

I know about 3 in my year and have one in group. Teaching the kids that Homosexuals are just normal people one relationship at a time.

>>493 it's probably a lot more common in high-school because that's when a lot more kids are getting...active. It's a rare thing at my school for a gay couple, especially since we are a small school of 800 in FLORIDA.

I'm glad I have the father that I have. He really doesn't give a damn who you are, what you do, or what you think. He accepts anybody as long as you have the courtesy to accept our ways. So I was raise in the way without racism(well except for my grandfather. Very racist prick, he was) or hate to gays, or any type of person...now if only I can get the guts to tell him I like girls to...

Honestly I can't tell the difference between "gay" and "straight". I see it as two human beings falling in love. Gender has no value and it never should.

>>494
"it's probably a lot more common in high-school because that's when a lot more kids are getting...active."
believe it or not that isnt entirely true. The number of students being sexually active in the past 5+ years hasnt gone up, just people are a hell of a lot more open then they were back in the day

>>494SHAMELESS HUSSY! YOU WILL PAY FOR YOUR SIN! GOD HATES YOU!

I have a quick question, when people refer to gays, do they mean the entire LGBT community? Just wondering.

>>498 Adjective
(of a person, esp. a man) Homosexual.

Guess it just depends on how the person is using it.

The Canadian Army does allow equal rights to same sex partners, and has for some time.

one thing:

Same Love by Macklemore XD

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PEOPLE! STOP TALKING ABOUT FAGS PLEASE!

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PEOPLE! STOP TALKING ABOUT FAGS PLEASE!

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PEOPLE! STOP TALKING ABOUT FAGS PLEASE!

>>502 OMG I just found this song like a week ago because it was played on the radio. Honestly I felt like crying when I heard it but I was with my dad(who doesn't know my sexuality) so I held them in. Since that I've listened to it a lot inside my room. I think it's a beautiful song, honestly I hate the genre of music it is but it's just that great of a song...

Has anyone noticed how this website is based off a webaite that did good for people and for their countries, and how right now, there are people going against that?

>>508 There were idiots in the DRRR version of the Dollars. So really, there's no reason you should be surprised. Every site has it's trolls, idiots, jackasses, and bigots. But we also have good people, those who do their damnedest to help others, and people who will one day change the world. So I guess I'm just failing to see your point.

>>507 You, are truly the awesome one here.

>>510 we are all awesome in our own ways, well except for GHF of course.

Not to be a huge downer, but I know a lesbian couple who committed suicide because they were refused marriage + effectively bullied out of existence last year.
And last week, another friend of mine was found by her daughter bleeding out on the floor. She tried to slit her wrists because her friends found out she was a lesbian and wouldn't let her hear the end of it. Luckily her daughter called the hospital and they managed to save her life.
I don't care if you support or don't support gay marriage, discrimination like this is not okay. Making another person want to die because of their sexual orientation does not make you better than them.
It makes you the scum of the earth.
Thank you for your time (ʘ‿ʘ✿)

People need to stop being so critical. Its a human loving another human, it doesn't affect (effect?) anyone else so leave them alone to love who they choose!
That's my opinion anyway

^

Who are we to determine who can be happy? So a gay couple is happy. Does that bother straight couples? If they are happy, why attempt to mess it up? Can't claim it is against God, as God said love thy neighbor...not seclude them and torment them.

If they are happy....let em be. I'm straight, yet I don't go around saying gay people are an abomination. So long as my name isn't thrown into anything...I don't really care. :D

>>513 Oh....and I just watched ore no imouto...kuroneko. :D

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I think that GHF has a good point when he talks about God hating gays. It's people like him that make it not work out for the gays. I honestly believe that the reason that gay marriage isn't legalized is because of the bible and the different ways that it could be interpreted. I'm a supporter of gay marriage and I just had this conversation with my mom.

She told me that marriage was a Christian thing. I told her that atheists get married. Marriage is a legal contract, not a religious ceremony. An Atheist Marriage just has to have a judge and a document, but doesn't have to be religious in the slightest. Two people can say vows, but they're not married until they sign the documents.

I believe that many, many of the laws are very unfair... I didn't know about any of these that you listed until npw and I'm just.... Ugh. =,=

>>524 Sorry! It was late when I posted that and didn't think that saying 'gays' could be offensive, I actually didn't know how else to say it. Again, I'm very sorry if that was offensive!

I went to a party last weekend and when it divided into sub-groups I found myself in a tree-house with 6 other people. Half of those people were bi-sexual and it reminded me how common these things are getting. Still though, I feel like this might be the new "Depression" where people say they are exploring their sexuality as a cry for attention and to feel special from the rest. Fucking hate those fads, they derive from the original cause and make it look weak and silly.

>>528 Amen to that.
I don't know about everyone else, but I think I know roughly as many bi/gay/some form on non-heterosexuality people as I do straight people. Though I have no qualms with them rubbing genitals with people of their choosing, I'm worried it will become some kind of cliched trend.
And let's not even talk about the 'depressed' people *shudders*

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>>529 That "I cut myself" trend is still way too common, I don't want sexuality to be a step in. I think a lot of people can't seem to distinguish between masses of hormones and actually being attracted towards both sexes; just like people couldn't distinguish between bad moods and depression.

>>533 Oh I'm sorry, you obviously know the entire mindstate of a bunch of horny teenagers. Do you seriously think their ability to get anything with lips and legs whilst drunk at a party is trying to "Find that perfect girl or that perfect guy"? You are being way too much of an enabler for them. Anyway, it's not like you can just switch on bisexuality because you want to have larger chances of a compatibly with others. Acting like you're superior because you're different just makes people pissed off. All it means is that you're different.

>>535 You really can't see what you're doing wrong, can you? I have no problem against homosexuals. Homosexuals like you however, I do. You think that you are given some special ticket to be in everybody's face about being gay simply because you are. Let me tell you something, you don't and by doing that you are just aggravating the balance between over-sensitivity and under-sensitivity. You are not helping the cause you so blatantly champion at all; if anything, you are hurting it. Simply by stirring up annoyance in the ranks you damage all of the LGBT communitie's reputation. People are different, some people don't like others being different, accept that. Doesn't it bother you that you can be so easily compared to one of those vegans that piss off all sane minded people in a 20 metre radius by being so in your face about being vegan? You need to get a lot of things straight, I haven't even mentioned your disregard for other's equality in faith while complaining about equality in sexuality.

I've had that rant building up in me for ages and it feels great to let it out. And don't just post some stupid [Doctor Who] meme about how you don't care, it just makes you look like an idiot because you really should. Doctor Who is another thing actually; wow, you like it. Want a medal? You seem to act like you deserve one.

>>528 It's been that way for a while. You just have to weed out the people who constantly flip flop between sexualities.

>>537 This.
So fucking hard.
I don't hate Faraday because he sucks dick, I hate Faraday because he acts all entitled because he sucks dick.
Derporama.

What if he doesnt really suck dick, but is just being a huge dick by trying to act like he does.

Alright everybody. Peace, please this is a decent thread. Back on topic.

Alright everybody. Peace, please this is a decent thread. Back on topic.

>>542 This is the sanctioned same-sex thread. if I am going to share my grievances about aspects of homosexuality, it's going to be here.

>>525 I've never met a person in real life who believed in having the Q there. It's actually pretty offensive. Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Trans are alright; Queer's disrespectful, though.

>>546 That's wrong Barabi. It doesn't stand for queer it's for questioning. Look it up next time. But if you ask me, the "q" and the "a" are pretty ridiculous. I mean sorry but no one cares, if you're "q" or "a."

>>546 the Q is for Questioning

There's one girl in my class who still uses the word 'gay' as an offensive term. Every time she calls something gay I scream "*insert item of discussion here* IS NOT HOMOSEXUAL I AM MORE HOMOSEXUAL THAN *insert item of discussion here*!"
Because no, our worksheet it not gay. Our worksheet has no sexual preference. Yes thank you.

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Same sex marriage is now legal in England
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23338279

On a separate note, I remember a few years back I saw two guys holding hands while walking through the park. They seemed really in love and I thought it was sweet. But the moment they reached an open street they let go, and tried to look as if they were 'just regular guys' hanging out. I can only conclude that's because they were afraid to show their affection publicly. Now, back then I didn't see the point of people campaigning for gay rights, i thought who you sleep with is a personal thing and shouldn't be such an issue. But then I realized that legal measures of some sort should be taken, not because it's a privilege to get married or get any such sort of validation for your feelings, but because it's a first step in accepting that people's private lives shouldn't be sanctioned in any way (if they are not harmful to other individuals and I fail to see how anybody's consensual sex life could be)

As for radically religious people who oppose this, I think they are contradicting themselves. Even it were a sin, and I don't think I've ever heard a rational argument in favor of that, so what? People have the right to choose for themselves. I am not overly familiar with the Bible but I believe the key to true righteousness is the freedom of choice. It's not virtue if somebody else makes the choice for you and it's not up to the state to enforce any god's laws, it's up to the individuals to comply with if they deem it right and be rewarded or sanctioned for their choices by the deity in question.

>>552 Dude/Dudette you are awesome :D btw so jealous cause i wanted to be the first to post this!

>>552 I agree completely with your point about the religious contradictions and irrational arguments. All they have to uphold their points is a couple sentences in their holy book (much of which they don't follow to begin with because the more specific laws are outdated) and saying that it's not natural. The second point falls apart because homosexuality does occur in nature and has been documented, and the first point falls apart because cherry-picking quotes while ignoring others in the same text and same section of text just makes their entire point moot.
I applaud you :)

>>552 Woohoo for England!
And I totally agree. The whole point of religion is that it is what YOU believe in, not what others believe in. And only YOU are obligated to follow the rules of that religion - people of other faiths are not.

When people protest same-sex marriage in the name of a god or deity, do they think that they'll go to a good afterlife? Is that why they protest? Or are they trying to save other people? It's something I've always been confused about. I mean, if they aren't getting married to the same sex, then why should they care what a person does with his/her life?

>>556 Because people love getting involved in other peoples' lives. They somehow think that by allowing people completely unconnected to them to "sin", they are somehow party to the "sin". Or some crap like that. Basically, they're all dicks and should try to fix their own lives before messing with someone else's.

>>557 Thank you for explaining. People bug me and just need to mind their own business.

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I've got nothing against same sex marriage, even though I'm straight. So what if they're the same sex it doesn't matter as long as they're in love.

>>560 I completely agree. I'm straight too, but if gay people or lesbians are in love & want to marry, why not? Also, I think some of the bogus laws on gays & lesbians are fucked up. (like the no adoption or condoning h8 crimes for example.)

>>562 Yes, that's it. If some people don't like you it must be because you're homosexual and we are bad people. It's just like the guy in the year above me that uses "Is it because I'm gay?" as an excuse to be a complete and utter annoying twat.

Also I justified my point of view and the reasons for my disagreements with how you act. It's not my fault you didn't defend yourself when I actually started getting serious.

>>563 Sometimes Solace you're such a douche, remember you're just a little kid. You got to respect your senpais' and you got to respect that they know what they're talking about sometimes. And stop throwing shade and assuming. Cause I'm sure you know what that means.

>>565 faraday has not earned his respect, and at this rate, he never will. The problem solace has with him is faraday is complaining about how people must not like him, on the homosexual debate thread, soon after he told people that we was gay. Why wouldnt solace come to the conclusion that the reason faraday was bitching was because of this, n not one of the 50 other things that he has fucked up in the recent past?

>>566 How can you come to that conclusion??? Nobody would I wouldn't even come up with an assumption like that. Just cause Solace knows someone in his life that does that doesn't mean he should just jump to that conclusion.

The Eastwood has spoken. People against gay marriage, cut the bullshit.

>>567 because, believe it or not, the world is full of people like that.

>>569 I doubt that. With all the hate the LGBT communities receive. I doubt anyone out there is using that excuse all willy-nilly unless they have the backing of some large group. And even then it might just be your small community in some random state.

>>570 did i say my small community? No, pretty sure i didnt. Even though you are apparently very naive about how people are in the real world, the type of behavior we are talking about isnt some isolated thing, its global, end of story.

>>565 "Still a little kid", "Respect your senpai", never knew you were such a weaboo. Anyway, I am 16 and perfectly able to make judged assumptions based off a long history of observing Faraday's posts. He is just that type of person, even if he wont admit it. But no, I'm sure I should listen to everything he says because he has been here longer. I have even be told he used to go under the name "Axel Faraday" until he told the personal board he was going to commit suicide and run away so much, they flamed him off. Not sure how legit that info is but somehow it sounds credibly to me.

>>572 he used to be that, he did get flamed off, probably on multiple occasions, but I don't remember any cry wolf scenario

>>572 I'm not a weaboo, I just used other words for lack of better words. Whether you're 16 or older or younger, you never make assumptions. Like srly, cause assumptions make you an arse if you got what I was trying to say before. Make judgement with actual evidence and facts cause it's immensely more credible than an assumption. And screw what the others say, cause you never know what people are going through over the internet, not everyone's a troll or attention whore.

Forget this! Back on topic....

>>577 no, find it yourself.

>>576 I agree. On that note.. let ALL people no matter there sexuality LOVE, MARRY, & be EQUAL together!

The laws are not so strict in Belgium *_*

>>570 No, people use that excuse all the time :I
>>572 He's used several names in the past.
>>575 I don't mean to bust in, but Solace's assumptions aren't at all baseless. They're the same ones I've come to as well. I was actually offended by Axel's post earlier saying that because he isn't well-liked, we must be horrible people. He's afraid of accepting the fact that he's done anything wrong and blames everyone else for his attitude and mistakes. We're tired of it. Maybe you haven't noticed this recurring pattern, Ritsu--which sounds a little unrealistic since you've been here for a while--but that is the case.

And as far as your previous posts go, senpai is a fine word, but just saying "senior" will save people from jumping to conclusions. Not to mention that you should never respect someone simply because of their age or the amount of time they have been somewhere - it should be based on their attitude, how much they respect others, their accomplishments, etc. Baseless respect is dangerous respect.

>>581 I know. It's just sometimes when I use senior it reminds me of how old I am and that's really depressing. So I use senpai just cause it's Japanese and in my mind it doesn't translate to meaning someone older. And how is baseless respect dangerous? I just treat people like I want to be treated and when I get to know them then I give them my respect. Anyway, where seriously off topic. >>580 Name some laws.

>>582
"I just treat people like I want to be treated"
You're mistaking common courtesy for baseless respect.

"when I get to know them then I give them my respect."
But have you ever gotten to know someone who you ended up not liking?

Just cause we know him doesn't mean we have to respect him. It's actually because we know him well that we don't have any respect for him.

Well, even though I am heterosexual, I have a lot of friends who are homosexual and bisexual. There shouldn't be anyone telling them that they can't be what they are. People are people, and love is love, no matter in what way, shape, or form. Other people can have their opinions, but if they push others to have the same opinion or attempt to convince them that their view is wrong, then we have a problem. That's the issue with current day society; people can tell other people that their views are wrong. Anybody can have their own moral values as long as they don't judge others on theirs. They should be allowed to just be themselves, regardless of what other people think of them.

Back when my mom went to church, there was a homosexual male there. He was very rich, openly gay, and had a partner. He wanted to adopt children with AIDS so that way they would at least have some moments of happiness and the preacher was totally against it. The homosexual man was a work from home person so he could be with the children, but the preacher wouldn't have it.

It's stories like these that make me dislike religion that won't let you be who you really are. Mom left that church after that.

>>585 grantee there are few in the world today who truly follow their religion, many hypocrisies have been spawned from mans heart that corrupt the words of religion which were written as a guideline towards living life on earth. Instead many people claim their beliefs in the Christian faith but rarely walk the talk they spurt out of their mouths. I know what true Christians are like, kind, loving, welcoming, but there are so few seen in the world that the common image of a Christian is a bible thumping hypocrite who twists the bible to meet his own beliefs. Kind of ranting, but yeah, its upsetting seeing it happen so much in our world.

you should all listen to the song "same love" by Macklemore and Ryan Lewis. there is nothing wrong with gay people, and that is what yaoi is. gay people are just like everyone else. its like different people having different religions, or different taste in foods.

Ya and people should be happy even if its 'wrong' at least there happy.

>>588 Oh yay! I'll tell that to those orphans I urinate on and then murder every friday night.

To me, i don't think its any of my business, but if it is in the family then i would have to say there happiness

anybody heard of this sad story?? http://youtu.be/k2CdX_y9L9w

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You know what really makes me mad though? LGBT people being rude to hetero or cis people. Sorry for being happy with who I am.

>>606 what? Ive never seen that happen. Maybe theyre just intentional antagonists

>>607 Mainly just BS on tumblr. It does happen though and it makes me very upset.

>>606 Its sad that this is getting to be decently accurate to the actual level of hyperactive sensitivity from some of the LGBT community.

>>609 They don't seem to understand the actual meaning of equality. What they're talking about is LGBT supremacy, if anything.

Not all of them are like that.

Not all of them are like that.

Not all of them are like that.

>>611 >>612 >>613 I forgot how I didn't explicitly say some members of the LGBT

sorry about that it was on an ipod touch and im notused to doing this on an ipod im used to do this on a computer.

gay people aren't trying to take away straits rights or change the bible most don't even beleave in the bible they just want to make sure that if anything happens to one of them the other will be taken care of. and feel equal to others. is that so wrong. Christianity isn't the only religion in the world I think we need to learn that.

People seems to forget that America was founded on Christian morals. "Serparation of Church and State" originally meant that people couldn't be forced to follow a religion. It did not mean that we should throw out all of our morals.

>>617 But you're saying that like everyone has to have the same morals?

>>618 I know that not everyone will have the same morals, however people seem to think Christian morals are bad for this country and should be dismissed. Even though this country is based on Christian morals. By dismissing those morals you are dimissing the very foundation of our country.

>>619 We can't keep clinging to the morals which were at the foundation if we want to grow and prosper as a country. The morals which we were founded on are outdated. The US is growing up; we are no longer a Christian country that simply lets other religions settle in our territories. Freedom of religion is a big deal. By clinging to the outdated morals of one religion, wed be being bias towards that religion and only showing that our church and state are not as separate as we pretend they are.

You know what other morals this country was founded on?

Slavery is something this country was founded on. It was morally correct to have slaves for a very long time. Eventually, though, the country started to grow up, and its morals changed. We even allowed blacks to vote and eventually own land. If we still stuck to our original roots and morals, our country wouldn't be like that.

Women were not allowed to do anything. For a long time, they could not hold jobs. They could not own land. They could not vote. Eventually though, the country grew up. With changing tides and wars, women had to take over their husbands' jobs while they were off battling, proving their competence as human beings. Women were slowly allowed to keep their own money. They were allowed to own their own land. Finally they could even start to vote.

These are movements which are no different than the gay right's movements. They came with changing tides and the growing up of both our country and the world. We would have never come this far as a country if we clung to biased old-world morals based on a religion.

Slavery and treating women badly is not part of Christianity. These things were not based on religion. Now, the bible does say that men were to be the head of the household. However, it didn't mean that women were less that men, just that their job was different. They are meant to be one, to complete each other.

>>621 Since you claim that all of the morals of this country come from Christianity, and these were in fact the original morals of our country, then apparently they are.

When I said that it was founded on Christian morals, I didn't mean that all of the country's original beliefs matched true Christianity. Just that a lot of them did. And that we've lost a lot of those morals. Just because a Christian believes something doesn't mean it's biblical.

>>620
Yes... Just yes. Admit it Shinigami, Barabisama won this round

>>623 Morals change with time. There is virtually no point in keeping morals just because we had them before. 'Losing morals' doesn't matter if the morals we had before were wrong (like thinking slavery was okay).

>>620 is exactly what I would say but said much better.

>>625 I agree that slavery is wrong. However, there are many morals we had before that weren't wrong. In some ways, we had more freedom than we do now.

>>620 Also, you say we are "growing up", that we are more accepting of other religions, races, genders, and sexualities. And that's mostly true. But why have we turned against Christians? Why do we treat Christians like their idiots and shouldn't get to voice their opinion, yet we accept eveyone else? Yes there are Christians who treat others badly, but what about the Christians that just want to mind their own business? Those are treated just as badly. I know, I've had personal experience with being attacked for my beliefs even though I was just minding my own business. I hadn't gotten into any sort of debate or conversation about my beliefs. I'm honestly not sure how the guy even found out.

Yes, morals change. But why do we look back on our roots with disgust? We might as well just call our Founding Fathers a bunch of bigoted morons.

>>626 I get attacked for my beliefs, too; saying you're an atheist around plenty of people gets you this look like you're satan spawn. Jews have always been attacked to the point of the Holocaust and are always criticized in the modern age. Mormons are constantly fighting off stereotypes about their sexual habits. Look at the poor Muslims. Ever since 9/11, if you say that you're Muslim, you get this look like you're some kind of radical terrorist; without even doing anything, they get the police called on them for suspected criminal activity just because of their religion.

Christians getting attacked isn't anything different nor any more special than any other religion facing similar and worse persecution. You're not any more privileged simply because you share a religion with our founding fathers. Get used to it.

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>>628 You're right, I guess I just see it differently cause I've personally experienced it. But everyone gets attacked for whatever they believe in.
In the end, I think we brought it on ourselves. Bible beating Christians has done more harm to us than anyone else ever could. Really it's the same for every belief. A few bad apples within can cause more harm than any outside attack. Just like with the Muslims.

I will keep the same stance I've had since I first learned about homosexuality. I don't care. Never have. Never will. It doesn't effect me.

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I don't understand why people have to argue with each other over this debate so much. I am personally a Christian and I would not participate in homosexuality but it ultimately does not affect me. If people want to be gay, go right ahead. I am not about to judge people by if they follow my beliefs or not. There are always bad people in each belief system. Jews, Christians, Muslims, Mormons. Its all the same. And people shouldn't get homophobic over this type of thing. I judge people off their words and actions not their sexual orientation. Maybe one day people will get over their superficial beliefs and maybe start to become more tolerant of other beliefs.

^Give this man a cookie

so what if people are gay, that doesn't make them worth less than heteros. people should get more tolerance for people who are a bit different than they are, no matter what the difference is. they should get to know some gay people and realize that they're just people too.
And yes give >>638 a cookie

>>638 well put if they want to go to Hell, well, it does not affect me so I do not care. However, same sex marriage cannot exist because it was meant to be between a man and woman.

>>641 Says who? God? God never sid that. Men did, Men wrote the bible. Not god. How can a spirit write a book if he can't even hold a pen? Humans are always looking for something to hate or ridicule because it is different, after all that is ho mother nature engineered us. (you know evolution, that thing they taught you in science class when you were too busy reding the bible and reciting psalms in your head)

>>642 Christians believe god wrote the bible. If you don't believe God wrote the bible then you probably don't believe in god, either. What's the point arguing then? The Bible says very clearly that all homosexuals go to hell. It also says that people who eat shellfish and people who have sex without being married (plus a host of other things) go to hell, so it's kind of out of context. It definitely says that being gay is a nono, though.

Homosexuals go to hell. There is no way god would let his children go to hell. If it says that it is out of context. I'm tired of all of these relijuse belefs over same sex marrige. The West Beruro Bapstist Church said it. They are wrong. I am totally for same sex marrige. so my coson can get marride. I hered Ohios next.

>>644 Nope, the bible says it. Look, I am not Christian and I am not homophobic, but there is no point in deluding ourselves. The bible was a very strict text; a lot of people end up going to hell. The exact quote is, Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." And as we all know, abominations are straight to hell.

I am a Baptist but I believe that the Bible was created by people, which at the time had different views on same sex as we do now. I personally believe that God loves you even if your gay and will allow you into heaven. I believe that he mainly sends people to hell for being an evil person, such as a killer, not because you prefer to be with someone of the same gender.

>>646 I never said that God wouldn't send people to hell for being gay. What I said was that it is pointless to try and pretend the bible doesn't dislike gay people. The bible dislikes a lot of things, they are but one of many. Whatever you believe the entity of God does is up to you.

>>646 I am also a baptist and I agree with everything you said, except for the last part as in how people go to Hell, which are the unsaved people who don't accept Christ, but I'm not gonna have a big debate over that since i'm not the type to argue with what people believe :)I'm not much of a fighter that way, i'm just like if people want to be gay, that's fine. I'm not against nor for the gay marriage.

I'm Catholic, so I'm against homosexuality as a matter of principle. Regardless of what the Bible says though, God could care less if you're a murderer, it wont change His love. But you gotta remember, He may love the sinner, but He hates the sin. Food for thought!

When I said Hod could care less if you're a murderer, I meant that no matter what uou do, He still loves you, just to clarify

God loves. Man Kills.

This debate should just allow same sex marriage it doesn't matter if people may be uncomfortable about these people you and anyone else have a right to marry someone you love. In time maybe this will all end with a yes! I mean this a nearly the samething as rights among african americans!!

Also these people are really nice my parents friend is gay and we support it because society can be cruel and everyone just wants to be accepted.

All Americans are entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. However states who have low gay rights are violating the constitiution. This is probably the easiest arguement that could be made if anyone really wanted to change their state's stance on gay rights, and I agree with it as well.

>>655 No, they aren't. The Constitution doesn't mention anything on marriage at all. So, states not recognizing gay marriage, or even straight marriage are violating The Constitution. Also, that passage you're quoting isn't from The Constitution, but I'm not gonna tell you where it is from, I've done enough of your homework.

I'm sorry I made a typo, *aren't violating the Constitution.

>>656 Declaration of independance my mistake on that one got them confused. The point is that every citizen is entitled to the pursuit of happieness. Refusing gay marraige is an idea that is gradually slipping as more and more people change with society. It is an old idea that goes against what the country was founded upon (freedom, although colonial times are not a great example of that). Marriage can be grouped under the pursuit of happieness if you want to think of it that way, as it does apply.

>>658 Oh don't get me wrong gays should be able to marry. But saying that its a constitutional right is wrong. And the Declaration of Independence was more or less a declaration of war and list of grievances to the British Empire not a law establishing the rights of its citizens that is what the Bill of Rights was for and until an amendment is passed nobody has a federal constitutional right to marry. I don't know about states rights on this matter they may have a right to marry.

Has anyone heard about the Christian hetero uple who run a photography buisiness in new mexico? They refused to photograph a lsbian wedding becauae of their beliefs, so the lesbian couple and the state sued them and made them choose between paying thousands or taking their photos against their will. Can someone please explain to me why heteresoxuals need to accept the beliefs of homosexuals, but their beliefs are considered unworthy of succh respect? Are there not other photographers around? Do they not have the right to choose their customers as they see fit, not as the state sees fit?

More of a problem with the state honestly. Only real reason I can think of for someone doing something so assanine. If hetero and homo sexuals could respect eachother's beliefs and habits this would not occur. But then again this is not a perfect world, which Is why many people are here.

I seriously don't understand why people are so against gay marriage. It genuinely confuses me. Probably because I'm so embedded in the 'live and let live' thing.

>>660 Their beliefs resulted in different treatment, which is discrimination. What if a shopkeeper was forced to sell them food 'against their will'? What about a doctor being forced to treat them 'against their will'? I suspect you may react differently then.

I my self am bisexual but I'm from Denmark hopefully more countries will be like mine and allow same sex marriage.

I have this best friend who's in a relationship with the same sex for almost 4 years now =) She told me that she's really happy that I accepted their relationship even in the first place. I really don't mind. I mean, what's wrong with it when you love each other? Isn't that better than opposite sex couples who married but after a few months decided to divorced? For me, as long as they don't hurt anyone and are both happy with their lives then there's nothing wrong with it. ^^

When it`s all about love, people begin to forget what is perhaps the single best reason to oppose homosexuality: we were not created to be doing that kind off thing. We were created to procreate, which involves a man and a woman. Homosexuality goes directly against the grain with which we were designed.

It is allowed in NZ.

>>666
Irrelevant given not everyone actually has sex to have kids, and thus your point doesn't hold up.

The fact that couples can hire surrogates to have their kids, basically replaces that couple who can't have kids, with someone who can.

So, what your saying is, while people are made with the ability to procreate as one of the most basic bodily functions, that should be forgotten because other people can perform that function in their place, and give said people their fruits? That`s stupid. Natural sex can only take place between a man and a woman; to screw around with that natural equation is idiotic. Is it OK to do that just because it`s possible? Are we really that screwed as a people that basic natural laws mean nothing anymore?

>>669 if it were "natural", then why is it that the creatures of nature are capable of being gay?

>>669 Also so little of our lives goes by the natural order of things these days, I'm fairly sure love is one of the few left majorly uncorrupted.

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The creatures of nature are also capable of genocide, racism, and hate. Should those evils be acceptable merely because natural creatures are capable of them? I apologize, because it seems that I`m missing something important. Since when did it become a good thing to praise our similarities to animals, other natural creatures? Dogs can preform homosexual acts. So can horses, and bulls, and all kinds of other "natural creatures." When I was little, being called an animal was derogatory, and now it`s supposed to be a good thing? Yes, please forgive me, because I must have missed that lesson.

>>673 "...we were not created to be doing that kind off thing."

"Natural sex can only take place between a man and a woman; to screw around with that natural equation is idiotic."

Funny, you seem to be the one that brought up the point that sex between a man and woman is natural and therefore right. Naturally, humans act like animals, and only through societal conditioning do we act civilized. Naturally, we are capable of genocide, racism and hate, and in fact naturally we engage in all those things. So, you also say naturally men and women have sex?

I must have missed something as well. You rail animals and humans for being able to naturally do very horrible things, yet here you are praising heterosexual intercourse for being natural. You can't have it both ways.

Somebody just got slammed.
(Norbet did, it was Norbet that got slammed)

Norbet why oppose love of any kind. Also two men or two women being in love is normal haven't you ever heard of the stories in Greece and Rome of the old days men and women loved the same sex as both love and some times like animals for domince.

this is sad same sex couple should have these wrights too

677it really is sad America and most church's have brain washed there people in thinking thats same sex couples are wrong .

I say this, if you condemn same-sex lovers for any reason, then you are nothing but a hating monster that doesn't understand. We were put on this planet to learn and to make choices. Whether this is a choice or not, that's left to debate. I say this, I will continue to support same-sex love as there is nothing wrong with this at all.

>>679 As long as people aren't try to force their beliefs on you, they are completely entitled to them. Some people simply were raised to think it was wrong, they are allowed that freedom of view. We shouldn't force people to believe what we want them to, that ruins the point of democracy. Who says we even are correct? We don't know. I hate it when people immediately vilify all who have a simple belief, they are completely entitled to it. This fight is about defending gay rights, not persecuting those who don't believe in them.

>>680 Preach.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but that does not give them the right to govern the lives of others. Practise your beliefs as much as you like, but never force them upon others. Accept others as they are if you expect them to accept you.
(This goes for the LGBTQ+ community as well, since some LGBTQ+ people are douchebags and can't stomach what they serve.)

I'm a straight guy for LGBTQ+ rights (or as most of their community prefer, Human Rights). I know what it's like to be alone and don't think anyone should be put out like that. It's just uncool on multiple levels in my opinion. Besides, all LGBTQ+ folk that I know are open-minded, accepting, and loving. Though we do make unprofessional jokes from time to time, but so goes friendship. Anybody else know why Russia is anti-homosexuality?

>>682 Really? I know quite a few LGBTQ+ people that are annoying twats who use their sexuality as an excuse to feel superior to others. On that train, not necessarily at you, but people seem to be treating the LGBTQ+ community like saints. Remember guys, they are just humans, humans can be assholes. This is a fight for equal rights, not sainthood.

Russia is anti homosexuality for the same reason America is, just more intense. They are a conservative nation who have trouble moving on due to a rigid social system. A decent majority of their laws, ideals and people are stuck in a time when equality wasn't such a hot topic.

>>683 I can see that now. And yes, really. I avoid most who are searching for superiority vs. equal treatment, much like I avoid white supremacists, Nazis, and gang members. I suppose that makes sense, the Russia system thing not being accustomed to homosexual acceptance.

Humans are weird.

That's pure discrimination homosexual parents are willing and can provide the child with physiological needs and teach them etiquette,moral ethics, and purpose then why not?

>>685 While at the same time, subtly forcing a viewpoint onto the child. In a christian family, an atheist child can probably even make his family or siblings stop believing without affecting the family directly.. In a family where you have two fathers or two mothers, expressing your viewpoint regarding gay marriage if you, yourself, don't support it could hurt either one of your parents. If you succeeded at making them believe they were wrong, that's another marriage broken up, correct? Gay Marriage, while permissible, is dangerous to everyone. In the same sense that believing that people shouldn't be quick to think that love is only between a male and female is close-minded, one can argue that forcing your child to live in a world where he's surrounded by it while at the same time being told his parents were wrong is as well. I'm not particularly passionate about this but you have to see more than one side of an argument.

>>686 I can't even begin with the flawed logic in that argument.

>>686 Really? Did I even read that correctly? ...A child isn't brainwashed pro or con towards gay marriage opinions by their family, what's important is a loving environment, when the child is grown up and mature then they can decide their opinions for themselves. Gay marriage isn't dangerous, what's dangerous is overly opinionated people and society. If everyone was just a little more openminded then families as well as their children wouldn't be judged so harshly.

>>686
So I guess we should just stand in the stagnate that is the world, for the sake of not fucking harming men, women and children?

While I don't personally give two shits whether or not Gay Marriage is legal everywhere, I also don't hate it. I'm neutral to the point of it until it begins to harm others in the sense of harming a gay couple, or a gay couple harming straight couples.

If not to that point I don't give a shit, but I wouldn't say allowing it or not, while being against it or not is going to drastically make people fucking insane, or harm them in anyway.

Those against it harmed because it happened (Religious viewing wise?) They need to grow up.

>>686 What you've essentially gone and said is that parents are not allowed to have opinions at all because they influence their children. By that logic, children shouldn't be allowed to have parents at all, because practically anything a parent does can impact a child. Hell, they shouldn't be allowed to exist because of how they could be influenced!
>>689 I like you a lot. That's (as I see it) probably of the best opinions one can have on a topic like this.

Something I always found to be rather amusing is how people assume gay parents = gay kids. Because, of course, straight parents = straight kids 100% of the time.

>>690 This. Every experience a child has influences them and affects how they will become, but contrary to >>686's belief, it does not effect how they will become. I would say more powerful are people like Face, who tell them their parents are an abomination. Convincing a child their parents are an abomination upon this earth will harm them far more than 'subconscious gay influence' ever could.

I am glad to see loads of intelligent thoughts on this thread, well thought out and perceived, now just allow me to be a bit...shall we say...rambunctious?

>>686 Bullshit, You moron. You have forgotten the most absolute defining characteristic of being gay: It isn't a choice. YOu may argue that they act on their "lust" and shouldn't blah-blah-blah, but may I ask when was the last time you jacked-off because you got a boner from seeing a little cleavage? Or ass? Or whatever? My point.

Also you cannot logically justify anti-gay marriage for the fact that religion is a faith. Not a law book. I will also justify that as a child being brought up in faith, that I am an atheist simply because I choose to be as I don't see how any of it can be true. But to each his own, right?

all of these rules that are keeping them apart should disappear!!!people should have the right of choosing who they wanna be with!!

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>>690 even if the intentions are good, forcing anything on anyone isnt good. Forcing freedom stifles freedom. Its forcing tolerance of homosexuality. Let people, gay or straight have children.. But let them educate their children thoroughly on the original definition of marriage so that they learn to accept them in spite of social norms. People hate what they don't understand. Is this not the same? You can love your parents with or without approving of their lifestyles, but nobody deserves to be ridiculed because of it. Everything i say is anecdotal. I have no stance on homosexuality. I have a stance on indoctrination and forced agendas. Homosexuality is not an agenda, but mankind as a whole tends to turn acceptance into an agenda. Wheres the tolerance for incestous marriage? Is that not love too? Maybe i'm overanalysing things

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>>716 Remember when 4chan used to be the tits?

These fags are serious rebbit tier.
The faggotry rolling off of them is so thick that you can almost taste it.

They are probably between the ages of 12 and 12.
I hope they get cancer.
Because that's what they deserve.
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>>717 I vaguely remember. The site has now soiled what reputation it had left, these days.

Whatever, it's not like they actually cause any harm. They're too pathetic to do that.

>>718 Some of it isn't all that bad.
/out/ is still pretty cake.

>>719 Not worth it in my eyes. It's fallen from its golden days.

>>698 Wait, so now you're saying that Gay marriage and adoption is fine, but we should all teach children about the original meaning of marriage? I don't really get why, but sure!

The original definition of marriage treated women like a prescious commodity. According to the bible, they should be given the innermost room of a house, and be expected to perform special duties e.g. weaving, cooking, child bearing, husbandry, baking etc. Any people known to cheat within a marriage, or have sex before hand, should also be stoned to death. And of course, to wrap it up, a wife must always obey her husband.

The true, original beauty of marriage that we may teach our kids. Also, a whole bunch of your second post contradicted your first one.

Should gays have the same rights as couples in my oppion as a christan i think that it really isnt anyone elses desion not congress not religous leader not any one we all have our own feeling and own beliefs but the mimet we compare our lifestyle or choice is the minet we have over step our boundry if your gay then you should have the same right but dont have gay parades or shoveit down any one elses throught if your straite mined your own dam biss teach your kids what you want and let them teach theres what they want ok

>>721 my opinion remained the same. I am no advocate of gay marriage. I am an advocate of tolerance. Though I, myself, dont approve of gay marriage doesnt mean i dont approve of giving people a fair ground. IF everyone is on level playing fields, shouldnt the children be too? Raised ignorant of anything is stifling the child and molding him into a bigot. For as many people with the idea that gays are campy, do things a certain way etc., there's people who believe religious organizations are evil for a certain stance on it. Both are not entirely true. Yes, there are campy gays but there's campy straight people too. Campy is an adjective, not a synonym. Yes, there are intolerant christians. Are they all? No. My church openly believes that no sin is worse than another. Just as a liar or cheater could repent, so could someone who was gay. In fact, there are people at my church who were homosexual and there are people here who were ex wiccans, satan worshippers, etc. There's a balance for everything. Now do you see what i'm saying?

if you want to get married then you should have the right to get married to whomever you chose regardless of gender. For all those biggits it's not like we're forcing you to get married. marriage has always been a choice, so lets not have lives dictated by scripture from 5,000 years ago and just move past this hate.

>>723 Not at all. The more you talk, the more you contradict and entangle your original points. For example, originally you said "Forcing freedom stifles freedom", but what you're talking about now is complete freedom from generalisation. To be honest, I don't think you have an actual opinion on this issue, or at least not a detailed now. Because people argued against your original points, you're feeling forced to back it up with logic that did not previously exist and does not make sense. Probably just stop doing that.

Living lives dictate by 5-millenia-year-old scripture is precisely the kind of lives advocated and fought for from the beginning of America, and its the same kind of lives that Americans died for 72 years ago today. These kinds of lives are centered entirely on a love for those who divert from the straight path; any who express hate and are, as you say, "biggits," are not true Americans, or true ministers of Scripture.

>>725 Now you've got it. Yes, I have no stance on this. If you read anything else i've said, I'm against radical change. I dont like people who try to bring peace. I dont like people who try to solve the world's issues. This isnt a world issue. Its a social issue. A crusade against social and religious norms in order to redefine marriage. Let the gays do what they'd like. Just remember, the christians ran away from england, made weapons and fought back. If you want to start a revolution, go bomb a few buildings and assassinate a few republicans.

In all honesty, that'd be the only way to "end" this problem. Otherwise, you're forcing tolerance and are an enemy of mankind.

>>727

You don't like people who try to bring peace? I call bullshit. I believe you're just trying to say shit like that to obviously make people rage. What kid knows of the shit you're spewing?

Most of this steaming pile of shit you're saying, I really doubt you know jack shit about and just Google search for things you can place into your posts.

Not anything about gays being married but solely upon the shit in regards to hating people who want to bring peace. You seriously need to grow up before trying to talk about shit you actually have no idea about.

>>727 So...you are obviously a watcher not a doer. You're one of those that feels like everything needs to be earned when the truth of the matter is Freedom is a basic right. Whether that be the FREEDOM of Speaking your mind, or the FREEDOM of marrying who you want. And if you haven't noticed they HAVE FOUGHTEN. I HAVE FOUGHTEN. WE have SUFFERED DISCRIMINATION, and HOMOPHOBIA. Just because every other social issue has been fought out in the streets doesn't mean this one has to be. Especially since it already has been.
If you are gonna spout bullshit, do it somewhere else that's not my thread, you toad-faced-thundercunt-douche-canoe-erectile-disfunctionate-near-sighted-gynecologist-thumb-sucker

-OP out-

i am a republican. and i agree with same sex couples. saying all republican agree with that point of view is like saying that all gay guys are well dressed or that all black people like chicken. its stereotyping and its wrong. i am all for your cause but really now?

>>727 Can you imagine if everybody in the world was like you? I would find that incredibly interesting. Don't argue if you don't have a stance, it just means that you're being shit.

>>728 If my objective were to simply make a few children angry, I've succeeded, as evidenced by the incessant use of profanity in the posts targetted towards me. I believe everything that I have said before. Regardless of my stance on mankind, I've produced more tolerance in my speech than you have. I'm patient with people, I do not go out to insult them directly for who they are or what they do. I provide method to what could otherwise be misinterpreted as madness. I do not research the things I say because the things I say and the ideals I follow boast something that is informally known as radical xenophobeism. These beliefs are my own design and my own creation. Whether you believe that I am some kind of "child" or "toad-faced-thundercunt-douche-canoe-erectile-disfunctionate-near-sighted-gynecologist-thumb-sucker" or not, I was able to do something within a day that the Dollars couldn't do in it's lifespan. My opinion regarding this matter has forced you all to drop your faux-save-the-world persona in order to attack me as a person. In mere seconds, I turned people who wanted to help their fellow man into a pack a wolves, ready to claw out my throat.

>>731 If everyone in the world was like me, the world would be no different than it is now. The world changes under the people's feet. If mankind does nothing to change the world, the world will still continue to change and evolve. In a land where everything is perfect, the world has no need to change. The result is stagnation. My stance isn't for or against homosexuality. It's against mankind's poisonous belief that they can truly form a perfect world with what's at their disposal. Remember something, you alone are powerless. Let me show you how microscopic you are in the grand scheme of things (now, I've used google to get these facts.)
200000 people are born every day. There are 6 million people on earth. Jupiter is 2.5x bigger than every planet in the solar system combined. Jupiter is but a tenth of the size of the sun. The sun is 1,287,000 times bigger than Earth. In 2012, a planet was found that's 12 times the size of Jupiter. The sun is but 10/12 as big as said planet. Now, when you look at it from that scale, do you think the world's problems matter? That's my stance.

>>732 Do you even know what a revolution is? If everybody was like you, we wouldn't have discovered boats yet. Also, problems are relative; just because planets are exploding in the distance, doesn't mean we shouldn't micromanage the things that we can have an effect of. Congratulations, humans don't matter, you've reached the same conclusion as billions of other people, it's pathetic just to give up at that point, though. I used to, admittedly, believe the same thing as you. I've realised now, however, that there is no point in thinking like that. If you think that all our problems and solutions don't matter compared to the sun, just kill yourself. The fact that you believe that and are still alive shows not only a lack of self-will, but also a narcissistic point of view. Idealism is needed to achieve anything, or else what are we left with? It's people like you that would have heard of electricity and gone "what's the need of that? Change is unnecessary, we exist perfectly fine with oil." The world changes, the universe changes, humanity changes, work changes, your bed changes, all of it matters. Don't be so fucking nihilistic, it just makes everybody hate you.

>>732 Change is a part of progress, it is inevitable. Your stance on our significance can easily be countered. In part because we are intelligent beings who think, and feel. Saying we should be rather apathetic about our lives and the importance of them is pessimistic beyond reasonable doubt. And, also simply implying that I believe in Utopia is a preposterous assumption on its own. I am no where naive enough to believe in having a perfect world. No I only hope to have it more peaceful and happy. In actuality, the grande scheme of things is realient on every life in the universe. Every bird, every tree, every living being can alter the course of history because of the Butterfly Effect (google it). I leave you with a quote from Mahatma Gandhi,"Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it."

>>733 it's arguable that the views that I have are anti humanistic in definition. In spite of all of these accusations, I'd like to believe that I am a realist. Think about It. In a world without any need to improve, the people will never improve. Stagnation. Man would have no reason to exist. Our imperfections are the reason we wish to be perfect. Take away our imperfection and you probably wouldn't even be here saying this to me. I am an anti-humanist. I'm strongly against the belief that mankind's obligation is that of a global scale. You have a bad life? Change your life. Don't change the world. Let the world change itself. If the world was a hive-mind of delirious fools that believed they created the perfect world, that'd be far worse than the world now. I've said it once and I'll say it again. Ambition is poisonous. It's toxic and it destroys everything it touches. When too much is produced, the world grows Ill. The world will purge it from itself, killing the host.

I can assure you there is noone like me. You claim to have the same ideals yet you do not understand what my ideals entail. By my hatred of human nature, I have essentially declared war against mankind as a whole. Not literally taking up arms. Instead, I wage a war of ideals. A fight I will lose indefinitely.. If the world were like me, change would be more gradual. It would take place over centuries, not decades and millennia, not centuries. There'd be no logos, no visionaries. There'd be imperfection everywhere, plenty room for improvement. An imperfect yet ideal world.

>>736 I feel like I should respond to you but you're actually that level of delusion.

"I can assure you there is noone like me."
Yeah, buddy, you are the most intelligent and special person of all. Nihilism definitely isn't what you believe. How's that collection of fedoras going?

Also, please have a think about what idealism really is. It's not aiming for a perfect world, it's reaching for it. Most idealists recognise things will never be perfect, they just want them as good as they can get.

Trust me though, there are so many people like you. You all think you've elevated to a higher level of understanding and conscious than the rest of humanity, but you are all wrong. People can see your point of view, they can just also see what's wrong with it. I've always guessed that believing that kind of thing is a subconscious self-justification for leading an unimpressive and apathetic life-style, but I could be wrong about that.

>>737
>How's that collection of fedoras going?
This.
I, literally, lost my shit.

I remember when I though I was edgy and unique because I read a few books about Nihilism.

>>736
>Instead, I wage a war of ideals. A fight I will lose indefinitely

Maybe if your ideas weren't so childish you wouldn't lose so often.

>If the world were like me, change would be more gradual. It would take place over centuries, not decades and millennia, not centuries.
>centuries, not decades and millennia, not centuries.
>centuries, not centuries.



Thanks for playing, but please fuck off now.

>>737 so you're a redditor. Yes, I can honestly say that I don't share a view that's common among many people groups. Most people are atheists because they believe that a God is unethical. I, myself, am not an atheist (unlike the person that you refer to, whom is quite euphoric at this time). I believe in a higher power and I believe in anti humanism. The concept of Marxism was anti humanist but Marx, himself, believed in no God. I am not any more intelligent than you are. All men are created equal, therefore the simple thought of me being better than you in any way is foolish. If I were trying to seem "smarter" than you, wouldn't I have gone out my way to insult you as you have done me? I've replied patiently over the course of three days to every accusation and insult that's placed before me, without any signs of shaking in my beliefs.

The term millennia, not centuries and centuries, not decades wasn't to propose a literal idealism but to, instead, emphasize that evolution should take place on a scale that's 10 times that of what it is currently. That what would've been a decade in this world would've been a century in the ideal world and a century in this world would be a millennium in the other. It was a paradox. An intentional paradox. Also, stop green texting. This isn't 4chan. Waging a war of ideals against a country is a challenging feat. Waging a war of ideals against the human race is an unwinnable battle, no matter how much of this "ambition" and willpower you have. Being childish is the naive thought that mankind is fit to achieve everything. If you look back to the times of America before it was colonized by England's misfits, the Indians lived well. They were content with what they had and their developments, though over large periods of time, influenced many of the things that we have today. Then good guy America crashed that quiet party and used ambition to fuel a little thing called manifest destiny, in which plenty Native Americans were murdered and raped, all while having their land stolen. If people can find flaws in a world with purpose, they are the ones at fault. I'm not preaching that mankind should die out. I'm not preaching that the world I envisioned would ever exist. What I preach is a concept that's incredibly old. While its not a concept of overpopulation, it's a concept of overstimulation. The point when mankind's ambition pushes man to the point where no more technological advancements can be made. Where there is nothing more for man to do on this side of eternity. Man's life would be made meaningless. It's the equivalent of a mouse in a maze finding cheese, only to be locked in a room with the cheese for the rest of its life. What if the mouse grows sick of the cheese? What if the mouse finished it and wanted more, only to find that It can never escape? It'll live it's life inside that box for the rest of its life and die without any meaning.

oh my fucking god can you just shut up? this is seriously looking like an argument about your penis being bigger then everyone elses, and you must prove it by trying to sound smart and ranting about things that arent even close to the topic that is actually being discussed on the threads youre posting on

Every single time these kinds of people draw me in. You can never win because they are always that sure of themselves. I'm just going to stop trying.

Anyway. if you're anti-human, probably just go kill yourself. If not, please just leave this site, and preferably the internet.

>>741 being against mankind as a people and against mankind's values are two different things. Look at it that way and you'll find that the things I say are in order to exacerbate mankind's interest in existing.

>>742 trying to rationalize your behavior doesnt make it any any more acceptable

Faggots.

>>743 Now if someone said that against homosexuality.. Wait, that's just plain warped for me to say that.

Al u fagets liek dis

>>746 Yes!! Yes I do.