http://deadspin.com/5971165/hackers-take-over-steubenville-high-school-football-teams-website-threaten-to-release-personal-information-of-people-involved-in-alleged-rape-case

1) Do you really think that the people hackers do come from Anon and KnightSec?

-Iono.

2) Do you think that we are entering an age of "vigilante justice"?

-We seem to be a bit... And I can understand why. Real life authorities ain't doin' shit but beatin' the shit outta women. (In the US, you're eight more times likely to be killed by police than terrorists.)

3) Do you believe that Anon and KnightSec are going too far, or are letting these players off too easy?

-A public apology is good, though, I would prefer more of a punishment to these beasts of men.
(My female POV: TORTURE THE FUCKERS!!! SUPER HAPPY MURDER FUNTIME!!! :D
My male POV: Dude, Dia, calm down. They should probably bbe punished worse but that's a bit too far.)
Although, putting social security codes out and about is rather... unethical to me.

4) Do you think there was actually child porn in the e-mail account or was it planted?

-I can't say, though, I wouldn't be surprised. Then again, it's a football coach, so it could go either way.

5) Do you think that Anon and KnightSec might start to become judge and jury and abuse power that they are already abusing (threatening people with the release of their social security code and having the ability to release said code seems to be an abuse of power to me)?

-A bit. It seems that way.

6a) What is too far and what isn't?

-Throwing out social security codes seems a bit too far to me. Asking for only a public apology seems to not be going far enough.

6b) If you think they are going too far with anything, what should they stop? If they are not going to far with anything, what should they push on with?

-They shouldn't release any social security codes. That's way too far. However, just wanting a public apology seems to little... but I don't know what would be a more suitable punishment or what to add to the current punishment.

7) Anything else ya wanna add?

-No, not really; not right now for the time being.

just hope we get some batman and punisher type character.

>>2 Oh boy. I wouldn't be suprised. We already had that Joker incident at the opening of The Dark Knight Rises. Next thing you know, people calling themselves Zero and Kira will pop up.

It's a really profoud thing, isn't it? The human mind...

i love anonymous they dont just sit there like most people and watch bad things hoppen they try and do something about it more people shuld be like that

Hmm... I think that we like the idea of a punisher, but anonymity lets people go too far. We can do so much more than punishment for people who do terrible things. Think like this-A news story about some murderer comes out, Anonymous gets wind and vows revenge, the person in question is punished, they are revealed to be falsely accused. It's the same reason why I am against the death penalty. "Many that live deserve death. And some die that deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then be not too eager to deal out death in the name of justice, fearing for your own safety. Even the wise cannot see all ends."
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>>5 That's a pretty insightful way to look at it. I love the way you looked at it from a thoughtful and psychological perspective. I especially love that quote. Where is it from?

Gandalf ^_^ though Tolkien is technically the writer. Tolkien was in WWII so he has a good perspective on death. I wrote like a 6 page essay analysis of LOtR for AP English so I have a good Tolkien knowledge base.
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>>7 That's awesome and impressive. This proves good quotes CAN come from fantasy and fiction. Just sayin'.

>>8 I use more quotes from fantasy and fiction than from real people, though I can't say that I don't use any from real people.

I find the fantasy ones more memorable because of what people like >>7 do. They take a concept of what someone incorporates into their fictional world (through whatever medium they use), dig, and find out where it came from in real life, and apply it to life (past, present, and future.) When someone reads the quote unaware that it came from a fantasy source, they are less likely to dismiss it, and will see how deep and meaningful it is. When they later find out it's true source, they will only appreciate it that much more because someone (author in this case) was able to say something that applies to the real world in a fictional one.

Way to go VivaLaPanda.

On a less deraily subject, Anonymous is just a name that people can hide behind to voice their opinions and morals.

As Oscar Wilde says, "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Basically, Anonymous is a mask to hide behind so that people may voice their own opinions. We are all Anonymous and have the potential to be so. Therefor, if these people claim to be Anonymous than it is so. I could say I'm Anonymous just to tell someone what I feel. Whether I ever hide behind the name again or not, I was still part of Anonymous for that moment.

Enough rambling about Anonymous. Let's put it this way. Public apology won't right his wrongs, but will anything really do so? Jail time? Money? Any of that? The fact is, that person is scarred. Nothing will fix that.

"An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind."

As much as I hate using quotes to explain myself, this says it. You poke my eye out, and I poke your eye out. It doesn't give me my eye back. It doesn't fix anything. It just makes us even.

What these people are doing does have an up side though. It ultimately ensures that he won't do it again. Let's say that he does apologize. Well, he can't do it again. If he does it again and get's caught, he will piss off these people. Then, chances are that they'll release his information anyways. It's ultimately blackmail to keep him from doing anything bad.

Anonymous will post the information, such as address, Social Security, Credit Card, etc. of a cop because he pepper sprayed protesters. The fact that these people are giving this guy a chance that some members won't give when they see something wrong done is phenomenal.

Just keep all that in mind.

>>9 Before I say anything, I'm just gonna say I love Oscar Wilde and I didn't know that quote...I need to start reading as much as I used to. ＿|￣|○

First, may I just say that what you have said is very well put.
I agree that the fact that these "vigilantes" will do what authrorities won't in some cases is phenomenal, and that it's a great thing that people will stand up for the good of others. I was starting to believe that people like that didn't exist anymore.

My hope is only that it won't get out of hand and that bad people will not take advantage of this and use it for evil. One man's tool is another man's weapon. :/

>>10 Thank you. I would hope that it's well put after the time, effort, and length I've put into that, but sometimes I'm just not good with words.

You have a right to fear that, because power is easily abused. Anonymous has a lot of power, and, despite their lack of hierarchy, some people in Anonymous are more powerful than others, based on their hacking skills, ability to search for information on people, amount of protests they go to, how well and often they videotape the protests, intelligence in general, etc.

In my opinion, Anonymous has probably more power than almost any large organization, and might even have more power than the government (Which is arguable because of the CIA, FBI, military,ability to change laws, ability to add amendments, some of the anti-terrorists laws we're under, and all that being under the governments control, but, since they can never agree on anything, they can't really get anything done, which makes this power pointless.)

Long story short, Anonymous has a lot of power, and we never got to choose who got that power. We don't even know who has that power. Isn't that scary? A large group of people have the ability to get all of the information on everyone which practiced skill? The fact that they could use it against us for more than just black mail? The fact that they could get this kind of information from the government (of any country) and hold it over their heads?

Okay, try to shorten it again. There are so many things that can seriously go wrong if one person, who's been given power within this group, decides to pull a Hitler, or worse.

>>11 Bad with words? Nonsense.

But yes, that is a frightening aspect at the least. In the worst case scenario, if someone was to "pull a Hitler", it could result in a dystopian society. That is, if enough people got on board and the time was right, ecetera, ecetera. I think that, as you said, the worst part is that Anonymous is anonymous. Who can you trust, who can't you?

I just don't even want to begin to speculate.
In this case, I could only hope for more of a Batman than a Kira. This is coming from a comics/manga reader. Lol.

"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

These "masks" are for an individual to use to face hardship. We were different masks to overcome different hardships in life.

One must go under the mask to know the truth of such man. Man cannot tell the truth hiding under a mask. Anonmimnity, a mask, allows one to freely preform tasks one would not if said person did not wore a mask.

>>13 This is true. One could give a person one mask. If said person were to entrust the mask to another, it doesn't necessarily mean they would share the same feelings and ideas because they put on the same mask. I find this an engrossing thought.

Personally I believe Anonymous has lost the fire they once had and so to has their impact lessened compared to the works they used to perform.

Quoting Genesis Rhaspardos(Final Fantasy VII Series)

Genesis Rhaspardos: "...The world needs a new hero."

Just an interesting little fact here: the victim's family actually publically requested that Anonymous NOT reveal the social security numbers of any minors involved.

KnightSec is gay.
Just a bunch of skiddies trying to be the final boss.

Knightsec and anonymous are doing a lot of good in places where sick bastards deserve rpunishment. i hope the sick fucks get whats coming to them.

Think anyone would be interested in founding a real Black Knights, Celestial Being, ect?

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Yes. Think it can be done?
Without funding from someone wealthy, etc.?

Isn't that what the dollars are? We are an unfunded group that try to help people right?

that pretty much what we are if you thing about it where like Anonymous, we all use the same password to get in here and we can change our names (and personality) with each new reply, we don't have accounts or use our real names. We come from all over the world we could be 10 years old or 50. Although we don't have influent over people except ourself we could make a different if we wanted to. Right now where just talking about it not really doing anything (unless you know one of you happened to be part of Anonymous) so I don't know is it so bad to hide be hide a mask to say what you really feel?

I say go for it! Sick bastards that think rape is okay should be subjected to the harshest of punishments.

if you ask me a public apology wont really do any good. The damage has been done to the ones that got raped and they have to live with that thought for the rest of their lives, the damage has already been done and it cant be undone.

and also >>22 yes we are