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Im starting to beleive this is not Anonymous at all.This seems more like a setup now...honestly 1 state was fine.But 2? National security should have stepped in after the first event and heavily beefed up encryption security. It seems more like the government is doing a massive framejob.It makes more sense because theyd have access anyway and likely wouldnt care for a few hundred losses to smear Anon's reputation.

Video game example:Final Fantasy 7---Avalanche is to blame.

Even if they beefed it up, you seem to not comprehend the abilities that people in Anon have, when talking about hacking.

Most of these hackers, are the world's top, best hackers. Even way better than what we have in our own Government.

They spend more time learning it, living it, than most of the people in the Government. It may be their job, but no one lives their job, 24/7. A lot of people in Anon do.

>>2 I really think he might have a valid point, anonymouse has not announced anything about hacking these places, so either people are acting individually under the name or the government is setting it up

>>2 it's a definite possibility, but >>3 brings up a really good point, so let's look at the three scenarios and consequences brought up shall we?

Scenario A: Anon did not commit these hacks. It is a total fabrication by the government to find a scapegoat for cracking down on internet security. They can now use this leverage to move for harsh acts like SOPA, ACTA, etc... and I now expect some sort of retaliation from Anon in response to these claims.

It may have been a lie, but is this potential retaliation justified? Will there be even harsher government internet laws? Where does this leave US, the casual internet users.

Scenario B: Anon did ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING mentioned in the paper. I still expect some sort of government intervention with this, but how does this effect anon's image to everyone else in this situation? again, are their actions justified, or did they cross a line?

Scenario C: Anon did SOME of what is mentioned in the paper, but media is blowing it out of proportion. How do we know WHAT anon exactly did or was trying to do? again, how does this influence government policy and public image of anon?

It's really quite a complex situation

Also Anon is millions of people. You can't control what 1 or many do, if they are very HELLBENT towards doing it. So it could have been 1 or more out of the whole, who took it upon themselves to cause chaos.

Which seems a bit more probable.

>>6 very true

You still have to take into account that our government has a bad habit of coverin the truth up however.Simply look in a history book at school. Every victory duringbwars are metioned.Every advance forward.Or change in command.Yet never once have I read about the times our country lost or had to pull back temporarily. I respect history but th government prints it as simply one sided garbage,making the USA seem without flaw.Even i know battle results in casualltys yet I never read of it.

Point im making...The government lies easy.Whos to say they arnt this time.or for that matter,during other major events.We STILL hav a few people that whiper rumors about 9/11 being an act of the government simply to justify a recource war.No offense to anyone tha suffered losses in tht event,Im just pointing out a fac.

>>9 not how i learned about the first part of the Korean war, we got slaughtered there. we don't learn about vietnam too much though, even though it's the single most greatest cases of the government's military fuck ups.

Honestly...our teachers never taught us past the Boston Tea Party.I looked in my social studies book and none of the wars you mentioned were even in it.Just a bit about World war 2 and which groups we sent to battle or what ships.didnt even have D day in the book or pearl harbor yet the book tells political US history in the states up to 2005 after that.

seems more recent conflicts were near completely ommitted and if not,only mentioned enemy losses.further back in history u read,the less edited yet still coukd compare to previous books n find that each new one had more history ommitted.

Like i said...Historical...garbage.if it aint complete,the knoledge is just useless banter made to make the forces look better.

>>11 hmmmm. might just be the standard textbooks. this makes me feel.....ugh. I've been studying in school in a strange sort of AP course that's based more on international standards rather than US standards, so maybe i lucked out, but still :/

Smart move.International is both sides of the story so you get the most from it.

Ill be honest...im surprised no one has made any news comments about the recent activty in North Korea.The eldest brother is an asian tony stark who admits hjs own country i screwd up...and the inheriting brother has thrown everyone for a loop.Insted of vopying his father he is instead turning things upside down!

Any new news of Anon btw? Still wondering why they havnt pulled a V for Vendetta somewhere yet.