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US 'cancer scheme' (35)

1 Name: Riipple : 2011-12-28 23:13 ID:UWqSEUXT [Del]

After Argentina president Cristina Fernandez joined the list of Latin American leaders diagnosed with cancer, Venezuela's Hugo Chavez spectulates that the US has found the technology to give people cancer.
Chavez has noted the fact that the countries who oppose the US has been struggling with cancer recently. "I don't know. I'm just putting the thought out there," Chavez said.

Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner of Argentina has been disgnosed with thyroid cancer and is undergoing surgery next week.
Fernando Lugo of Paraguay was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin's lymphoma in 2010.
Dilma Rousseff of Brazil overcame cancer when she was running office, and former Brazilian president Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva is undergoing treatment for throat cancer.

Chavez cited this year that between 1949 and 1948, the United States preformed human experiments where subjects were exposed to STD's.
That was 50 years ago. Will it be discovered 50 years from now that the United States was infecting presidents with cancer, Chavez says.

Links:

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/12/28/world/americas/venezuela-chavez-accusations/index.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45807659/ns/world_news-americas/

2 Name: Thiamor !yZIDc0XLZY : 2011-12-28 23:32 ID:ENOPYmha [Del]

That is a load of BS.

The US isn't giving people Cancer, and think of it like this. EVERYTHING almost gives you Cancer.

3 Name: sleepology : 2011-12-28 23:38 ID:eWcPLDC9 [Del]

Correction, everything definitly gives you cancer.
if we werent so obsessed with tech we wouldnt have this issue

4 Name: Lt. Dodger : 2011-12-28 23:47 ID:l/PoC7YG [Del]

Lmfao what a funny guy.

5 Name: Black Haru!4Wf3m.ar1o : 2011-12-29 00:06 ID:Nn/fxIfg [Del]

Everything does indeed gives you cancer.

I'm pretty sure the US doesn't have much in the way of problems with Paraguay, Argentina, or Brazil. I mean, sure Kim Jong-Il may have died as a result of cancer, and Fidel Castro underwent treatment for cancer, but seriously? I call BS.

6 Name: Riipple : 2011-12-29 02:07 ID:VRpFKdv8 [Del]

Well the US is pretty much involved in politically everything that's going on in the world.

7 Name: Black Haru!4Wf3m.ar1o : 2011-12-29 04:08 ID:Nn/fxIfg [Del]

>>6 That is true, but to suggest we've developed a technology (aside from McDonalds fast food) that gives people cancer, and for us to use it for regime changes in countries we don't really have much to gain from? It's a ridiculous suggestion.

8 Name: Riipple : 2011-12-29 04:53 ID:VRpFKdv8 [Del]

>>7 Unless you're in the core of the US power, you wouldn't know. It sounds ridiculous and completely outrageous not to mention extremely offending, but it might be true. Like Chavez pointed out, the US did preform human experiments before. Isn't that cruel and against any moral values? (link: http://www.ranker.com/list/the-13-most-evil-u-s-government-experiments-on-humans/robert-wabash).
Why do you say that the US has nothing to gain from those countries? Maybe the government really doesn't have anything to gain from their resources or things like that, but the notion of countries being very anti-US might be a harmful thing to the US image.

9 Name: Thiamor !yZIDc0XLZY : 2011-12-29 12:39 ID:ENOPYmha [Del]

The fact that we're not the ONLY Government that has technologies and intelligence that could find out if they were doing this, highly suggests they aren't. If they were, and this person thinks it's true and links to people who thinks as much, then obviously the people with actual intelligence has found this to be not true.


No common citizen of any country will have the actual facts (or power) to make people think this is true (or to find out this information), when people who actually could EASILY find out are just around the corner.


Think about it like this, as-well.

If they post their 'information' on the net, their 'story' of what they think and it were true. the Government would have already confronted them. May it be known publicly, or otherwise, then the links would be taken down in an instant.

This all points to this shit not being true.

11 Name: Black Haru!4Wf3m.ar1o : 2011-12-29 15:03 ID:Nn/fxIfg [Del]

>>8 I am very aware that the U.S. has performed human experiments before. That is not the point.

I say we have nothing to gain from these countries (Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay) because as far as I understand, we have fairly warm relationships with them, and therefore it would be counterproductive to kill off their respective leaders and turn them against us.

Besides, if we TRULY wanted regime change, it'd be a tad bit more practical to do it with a bullet, a bomb or even a full-on invasion, rather than with cancer.

12 Name: 7th Heaven !yW3mbpsdF6 : 2011-12-29 17:41 ID:+QZritsZ [Del]

OH MY GOD!!!! I'LL KILL THEM FOR GIVING USAGI-SAN CANCER!!!!! WRAAAAAAAGHHH!!!!...OK IM JOKING....BUT....SHIT!!!??...A CANCER GIVING MACHINE!!?? TECHNOLOGY TODAY IS SOMETIMES SCARY

13 Name: Beelzebub : 2011-12-29 17:45 ID:qrQpCHsK [Del]

7th heaven your pretty dam right

14 Name: Riipple : 2011-12-29 21:18 ID:UWqSEUXT [Del]

>>11 It's not the point, but it's not far from the point. There was one time where the US injected people in Puerto Rico cancer cells :/ That's not much different from giving presidents cancer.
The US might think they have a 'fairly warm relationship' with those countries, but those countries very anti-US, which makes me doubt the second bit that you wrote.

>>9 Sorry, I don't understand the 'we' and 'they' in your post XDDD; I'm guessing the 'we' is the US, but who's 'they'? The Latin American leaders?
But you're right, this is just a thought.

>>12 Haha, yeah.

15 Name: Thiamor !yZIDc0XLZY : 2011-12-29 21:36 ID:ENOPYmha [Del]

People just don't give enough credit to other countries and too much credit to America. Yeah, we basically are the biggest, maybe second biggest world power, but it isn't like America is all powerful and all too stealth. If an American shits the wrong way it's all over the news.

Anyway, like I said, if a citizen, of any country, tries to say something about what a government is doing, you'd be surprised how many already know, and proper action is taken, or nothing happens because it isn't true. Such as when I said the link would be gone, and the person punished in some way or another.


More than likely, it;s just some rumor that isn't true.

16 Name: MKOLLER !YYk5m0jo12 : 2011-12-29 23:49 ID:ilRmEVJ/ [Del]

My sarcasm must have been witty. Raise your hand if you read the article I linked to. *raises hand.....* Just me? Here's a snippet:

"The specter of tobacco looms across the entire region, and it is anticipated that if smoking rates do not decrease, lung cancer will emerge as the main killer in the region. Cancer control is further hampered by weak public health systems across the region, with the possible exceptions of Chile and Uruguay."

Please tell me I'm not the only one who noticed that in most of these locations, smoking is rampant, even in political officials?

17 Name: King Dude !zXqFpoplY6 : 2011-12-30 02:10 ID:o8RVlFJz [Del]

Personally, it's not like the government (or any government) is completely innocent. I'm sure everybody has done shitty things in the past. But that's why we shouldn't trust everything that flies out the mouth of any government official, we should use the brains we have to think about what's being said to us.

18 Name: Riipple : 2011-12-30 03:39 ID:VRpFKdv8 [Del]

>>15 If any citizen of a large/powerful country 'shits the wrong way', it's also all over the news...
You're right, but if this cancer plot thing is true, you think someone will put up their hand and go like, 'oh it was me'? What if it was really America? You think they would tell the world? Doubt it. If this scheme is true, then the US would quietly stop, but they'll never tell the media that it was them.

>>17 You're absolutely right. There's still a possibility though.

19 Name: Peace : 2011-12-30 10:41 ID:/0wtSNUD [Del]

@11 ofcourse the USA would give cancer instead of bombing or starting a war! If the leaders die of cancer people like yall would just say its ridiculous and the USA wouldnt have any blame on them!! And the USA wouldve knock down leaders slowly so they become more of a superpower

20 Name: Thiamor !yZIDc0XLZY : 2011-12-30 11:29 ID:ENOPYmha [Del]

>>18

I said people, (other governments) has means of finding information out. I never once said they would come out and say it.

21 Name: Riipple : 2011-12-30 20:23 ID:VRpFKdv8 [Del]

>>19 +1

>>20 When you wrote 'the person punished' I assumed that you meant that the government would know who that is, which means that either the government's information source identified the person or the person turned themselves in. If it was America, nothing would happen (unless they try to frame someone). If it wasn't America, something will be published. Either way, the people will know about it. The media is always hungry =.=
Why don't you analyze from the point that the US did do it? I mean, it's not like it's impossible. I think >>19 is pretty much on the right track from the anti-US point of view.

22 Name: Kon : 2011-12-30 23:21 ID:DPdY8gys [Del]

Well since everything gives you cancer, that means that the US gives you cancer as well, as does their neighboring countries, and the pope... maybe. We also know that stress increases your chances of getting cancer, so I ask you, what would be more stressful, being the leader of a less developed country? or one of a more developed one?

23 Name: Peace : 2011-12-31 00:51 ID:/0wtSNUD [Del]

@22 pretty much hahaha im american but my parents are full hispanic. And you've got to see this in every perspective :3

24 Name: silverband : 2011-12-31 01:18 ID:Z9BvnzET [Del]

just about anything can give u canser and the companys that make cancer fighting drugs are rolling in dow (cash) its more then likely greed is one of the more comon sins too find in civilized society like the us...........?

25 Name: Riipple : 2011-12-31 06:14 ID:VRpFKdv8 [Del]

>>22 The answer is both.

>>23 Exactly. Some Americans are way too patriotic to analyze things that aren't in the US's favor, even though it may be true. It's not exactly a good thing...

26 Name: Peace : 2011-12-31 12:36 ID:+gQRLrYn [Del]

@25 yupp yupp patriots just dont understand a "bad" america :3

27 Name: Black Haru!4Wf3m.ar1o : 2011-12-31 14:45 ID:Nn/fxIfg [Del]

>>25

There is a difference between blind patriotism and thinking with common sense. Patriotism has nothing to do with my opinions. I know how fucked up my government can be. That's not the point.

Logistically, it'd be a pain in the ass to attempt to infect whoever with cancer. If they were to use the method that U.S. used in a previous experimentation mentioned, that means that the U.S. would have to infiltrate each of the countries president's personal medics and actually inject them with the stuff. Unless there's been another method developed, I just don't see it happening.

It'd be vastly easier and cheaper for the U.S. just to send a sniper team, or "covertly" (yeah right lol) support the various coups d'etat that occur every now and then. Or to force the various leaders to eat McDonalds, that would get the same result.

Also, if there's a country in world that makes the U.S. as a superpower feel threatened, it's China. Not any of our neighbors in South America. It's well known that the U.S. has meddled in the affairs of South American politics for a long, long time, but this is just a conspiracy theory in my opinion. Believe what you want, it's your right. Honestly, I could care less.

28 Name: Riipple : 2012-01-01 06:44 ID:VRpFKdv8 [Del]

>>26 It's kind of sad, actually. The US isn't exactly the most innocent country on this planet X)

>>27 I think you're a mix of both.
There's probably some kind of new technology, which Chavez thinks. Once again, he's just saying it, no evidence available.
Uh, seriously? You think doing that would be better? Reread >>19, Peace has the most logical idea. The US (no matter how stupid some people think they are) won't send a sniper team to take out a ton of Latin American presidents.
Plus, alots of people (or places) sent assassins to Chavez, and he dodged them all (he thinks they're all from the US lol).
South America is like the US's backyard. Right now 70% of them are very anti-US. Sending a sniper team might just cause a conflict (however much effective that might be for the Latin Americans :/ ).
Ohhh, fear China >>16).

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30 Name: Thanatos!CRiLqZyIfQ : 2012-01-01 09:37 ID:OGoYFMlG [Del]

Venezuelan fag here.

Holy hell, did Chavez started to say things like these again? We don't pay much attention to things like these now. He's alwasys blaming "The Empire" of almost anything. It was funny at first but now is just boring. In fact, it's kind of memetic. We tend to joke about blaming the US and the CIA for everything.

But, it could be true. We can know if the US isn't having a plan to give cancer to everyone who oppossed them.

ITS A CONSPIRACY MAN, I TELL YOU. THE US AND THE NHK IS OUT THERE DOING THIS FOR US TO BECOME HIKK-- Wrong topic.

31 Name: Peace : 2012-01-01 11:46 ID:DwMjmS7P [Del]

@27 yeaahhh your right the comment about patroitism was bias and i apoligize for that :) my emotions sometimes get the best of hahahaha and at @28 thnks for the support :) but your right theres no evidence on the actual threat. And thanatos thats hilarious and true x)

32 Name: Black Haru!4Wf3m.ar1o : 2012-01-01 11:54 ID:45pFy4MB [Del]

>>28 You're absolutely right, Peace is the best way. I'm tired of war hawk crap.

Just understand that the methods I was suggesting would be what I think the government would do if the U.S. wanted those leaders gone. Just rambling on my part.

I do love my country, yes. But I'm not one of those blindly patriotic people that turns a blind eye to the bad things my country does. OMG AMERICA IS THE BEST IT WOULD NEVER DO THAT IT'S TOO GOOD TO DO THAT STUFF!!1!1

Peace~

33 Name: Thanatos!CRiLqZyIfQ : 2012-01-01 12:13 ID:yUBjPIn6 [Del]

I mean we can't know*

34 Name: Peace : 2012-01-01 12:18 ID:s2gMysQ7 [Del]

Hahaha yeah thats my bad for judging :)) hahaha and yeahh we had an argument over just a theory and not actual evidence x) hahahahahaha

35 Name: Kalidin !AnnC9ODlrc : 2012-01-03 02:28 ID:m1ppdn0S [Del]

if we could give people cancer that easily on enemy territory were everyones suspicious of you why did we have to go all seal team six in the middle east...