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Hollaback! You have the power to end street harassment (48)

1 Name: Litairtak Speruff!NRf7wfm3Qk : 2013-07-04 18:30 ID:MXgNocz9 (Image: 3198x1126 jpg, 247 kb) [Del]

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I recently found this site about a movement to end sexual harassment in public places. Check it out, it's named "Hollaback!":

http://www.ihollaback.org/

Really got me thinking. It provides you with ideas on how to react to street harassment, not only as a victim (http://www.ihollaback.org/resources/responding-to-harassers/) but also as a bystander who could defend someone else's back (http://www.ihollaback.org/resources/get-involved/).

Get the infos and hollaback!

2 Name: anubis!AnUBiS6/LQ : 2013-07-05 11:30 ID:tqUESsoW [Del]

I don't particularly like the name of this mission, but it has a good message.

Bump

3 Name: Anonymous : 2013-07-05 23:21 ID:T2zCHukD [Del]

bump

4 Name: Bian : 2013-07-05 23:24 ID:sORgnWK9 [Del]

Ping !

5 Name: anubis!AnUBiS6/LQ : 2013-07-06 21:42 ID:tqUESsoW [Del]

Bump

6 Name: anubis!AnUBiS6/LQ : 2013-07-07 17:18 ID:tqUESsoW [Del]

bump

7 Name: Litairtak Speruff!NRf7wfm3Qk : 2013-09-04 17:47 ID:MXgNocz9 (Image: 800x2250 png, 400 kb) [Del]

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Time to revive this.

8 Name: Takara™!!VpW7gX2l : 2013-09-05 07:19 ID:ILMss18/ [Del]

Holla atchu boy.

9 Name: Dogrl101 : 2013-09-05 15:08 ID:8he306Sc [Del]

I am SO in!! People sexually harass me in public all the time... No joke. =( People I dont even know sometimes. Its horrible but I get on em' for it. I also carry a knife.

10 Name: Dogrl101 : 2013-09-05 15:19 ID:8he306Sc (Image: 274x206 jpg, 11 kb) [Del]

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..If its not touching or attempted rape, its making sexual comments, asking me for prostitution, or even yelling "HEY SEXY!!! CALL ME!" out of a car window. I'm like, WTF??? I dont even dress provocatively at all!! I have always had this issue, since elementary school on tha bus. Once I get someone for it, another stranger does it. :/ Its horrible, because I'm lesbian on top of it.
The picture is how I dress on a normal, hot, sunny summer day. See?? NOT provocatively. I've been approached for sex by both male and female, underage and well over age. In the bathroom; on the street; at school. Even once when I was sitting in the car at a gas station!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH PPL!!!!! How do I fix this problem? I carry a knife everywhere and pepper spray.

The picture is only to prove to you that I'm not 'asking for it.'

BTW I am being completely honest, and I'm not joking. This is a serious problem.

11 Name: Ajax : 2013-09-05 16:19 ID:T8rw653v [Del]

I am in. Usually what I do in situations like this when I see a guy or girl get unwanted attention is I tell people to back off. I can be pretty intimidating when I want to be.

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13 Name: Litairtak Speruff!NRf7wfm3Qk : 2013-09-06 00:43 ID:MXgNocz9 (Image: 660x314 jpg, 126 kb) [Del]

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I'm glad to see you guys participate in this mission.
Here is some additional info I got after reading an interview with a former 20-year-long chief inspector turned actor and trainer for conflict management, preventing violence and body language. This isn't about sexual harassment only but how to deal with harassment in general. >>10 You might still find some interesting advice to help you deal with your problem, Dogrl101.


Imagine the following situation:

You're sitting on the bus, train, subway or any other public mean of transport. Suddenly, it gets loud and a bunch of juvenile delinquents gets on. Aggressive atmosphere. One of them walks down the corridor and asks for a lighter in a bossy tone. Everyone is averting their eyes…

How to do it wrong:
- remain silent
- look out of the window
- hunch over
- play with your mobile phone
- hide behind your newspaper, magazine, book etc.

As a consequence, someone (it could be you!)…
- gets harassed or bullied
- is forced to leave at the next stop
- is raped and/or beaten up
- gets robbed


How to do it right:

Don't avert your eyes. Don't ignore the situation. Don't rely on others to intervene. Studies about crime witnesses have shown: The more people are at the scene the less you are willing to interfere ("There are so many others who are closer to the victim, I don't have to act").

The gang's aggressive behaviour is an offer to test their power. They check if people will fight back or if they can go even further. Become aware of your own fear and react apppopriately: Put your phone, book, magazine etc. away. Sit straight, and stay alert. Show them that you are physically and mentally present . Keep your eyes on a horizontal level. Try to look confident - even if you have to bluff.

Delinquents are good at reading body language and they will get the drift. Most of them are used to violence because of their parents. They know how to read the atmosphere when their father gets home drunk. They have to analize the smallest hints because that's the only way for them to survive: How will he behave? Will he beat up their mother? Do they have to leave, so he won't lose it? How will they have to act to prevent him from entering their room? Body tension is important in particular. It signalizes them if someone is able to fight back or not.

When he passes, tell the inquirer you don't have a lighter in a neutral tone while looking him in the eye. Keep your eye contact short and look away to the right, you might provoke him otherwise. You can give him the cold shoulder afterwards but make sure he knows that it won't be easy for him to start something.

The whole group might base their decision to continue depending on how attentive the surrounding people are. They usually want to avoid any witnesses if they aim for robbery or want to relieve stress without complications. People who want to actively provoke someone don't do it on the bus because they won't get enough attention. Provokations are more likely to happen in public places.


What to do if the harassment continues:

As a (possible) victim:

- If you're sitting alone, get up and sit down next to someone.

- Ask your neighbor for attention or help.

- If you're alone on the bus, take out your phone and pretend to be in a heated argument. Take up some space, focus on something across the wall; you can also get up and start walking towards a fixed point. Having a focus changes your posture immediately. Now, shout, swear, spit - do anything to look aggressive: "No way, that's crap! I don't care what you say but you're bringing the fucking beer with you!" - Delinquents don't approach someone with an intimidating demeanor.

- If this doesn't work, get on your feet and start shouting.

- Run away if you can.

- If they are looking for a reason to lash out by insulting you ("You have a shitty haircut!") and you're willing to take a risk, confuse the bullies. Agree with their insult and turn it into your advantage: "You're right, my hair really looks horrible. My collegues told me the same. Toda,y my boss said that he'd fire me if I continued to show up like this. I want to keep my job! But my girlfriend says that she wants me to keep this hairstyle. What shall I do?" - And if they ask you if you went gaga, answer them "Yes". Delinquents will keep off you because they don't want to deal with weirdos.



As a girl or woman:

- Same as above but if someone sexually harasses you, never hunch or start smiling nervously. Return his gaze when you tell him off in a serious (not provokative!) tone: "Leave me alone!" - Then get up an walk away. Focus on the point you're walking toward and keep your back straight. Don't flee, otherwise you'll be no different from prey, a gazelle running from a lion.


As a bystander:

- Don't leave, even if you feel too scared or too ashamed. Observe the scene closely, so you can act as a witness later on. Take of care of the victim after the gang has left.

- Press the emergency button if there is one or call the police. Don't raise your mobile phone but keep it close to your belly. That way the perpetrator/s won't realize what you're doing. Tell the police where you are and what is happening. Avoid saying stuff like "There are three people, one of them is shouting and probably drunk…" - Make your request sound serious enough for the police to rush to the site. But don't lie! Just describe the situation drastically: "Someone's holding a knife. A boy is shouting that he will get beaten up. Nobody is interfering, everyone is scared."

- Form a team with two or three other passengers before taking action. Pick someone who has shown some attention before like watching the scene or turning around, and say something like "Hello! The boy over is victimized. Let's interrupt them together." or if you are a woman, ask a man to come with you; it will be almost impossible for him to turn you down.

- If you still cannot get anyone to join you, suggest to distract the gang at least: "Let's get up and shout 'Cut it out!' or 'Leave him alone!'. We don't have to go over, but we can't stay seated." - There have been cases where beatings were successfully stopped because people took out their smartphones and filmed the scene together.

- If you're still willing to interfere on your own, step in and shield the victim, but don't aggravate the offender/s. Hold your bag in front of you if possible. Non-violent protest can be very effective.

- Same as above. You can also distract or confuse the perpetrator/s on your own, if you have the courage. Act like a maniac. Start talking about things that don't have any connection with what they're doing, e.g. "Hey guys, I have a different problem. These ladybeetles are driving me insane. They're red with black dots. Or are they black with red dots? Did you also see the other ones, the black ones with yellow dots. They're totally crazy. Do you know what's going on?"


WARNING!

- Never insult or provoke the offender/s on purpose! It increases their readiness to turn violent towards you.

- Never stop the perpetrator/s from leaving the site! People were killed because they cornered him/them.

- In case of robbery, never hold on to your bag. You might get seriously injured otherwise.

14 Name: Litairtak Speruff!NRf7wfm3Qk : 2013-09-06 00:49 ID:MXgNocz9 (Image: 660x212 jpg, 61 kb) [Del]

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The second illustration from the interview

15 Name: Neko-tama :3 : 2013-09-06 14:08 ID:ihKPXamj [Del]

Bump

16 Name: WikidHunter : 2013-09-06 15:07 ID:LA3Z/3gd [Del]

This happens at my local hangout all the time. I support this movement and I step in when I see this happening. It comes down to fights sometimes because of the type of people but most people will walk away if you can intimidate them or out number them.

17 Name: Fujoshi : 2013-09-06 16:15 ID:N2UxwTLH (Image: 259x194 jpg, 8 kb) [Del]

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Cool I'm in!

18 Name: dogrl101 : 2013-09-06 18:18 ID:pJLFJ2Hi [Del]

OhMyGosh... I AM SO DOING THIS!!!! :) Thank you so soo much for those tips, Litairak, I am so going to follow them. Yesterday some guy sat next to me and kept touching my upper thigh. :( I kept telling him to stop, and tomorrow imma get all up in his face. I have a large crew of my own, and this guy is a wimp. I intimidate ppl alot already lol but thank you!! It happens way to often to wayy too many people.

19 Name: Litairtak Speruff!NRf7wfm3Qk : 2013-09-07 14:45 ID:MXgNocz9 [Del]

>>18 Please be careful, dogrl101. It's good to know that you have people who support you, but don't provoke him if possible. He might have dangerous friends, and you wouldn't be the first case to be taken revenge upon. Just be save.

20 Name: anubis!AnUBiS6/LQ : 2013-09-08 21:39 ID:wbJhFsQD [Del]

Bump

21 Name: Kokoro : 2013-09-11 10:10 ID:a+0Orm/s [Del]

Bump because this is damn important.

22 Name: anubis!AnUBiS6/LQ : 2013-09-26 23:16 ID:wbJhFsQD [Del]

Bump because sexism is still a thing

23 Name: Ao : 2013-09-27 00:06 ID:M6ttUOzg [Del]

Bumpin' it all day err day. Thanks for posting this, I can dig it.

24 Name: Cerebella : 2013-09-29 22:45 ID:N999caOx [Del]

Man,do I meet some weird people on the street. I like this!

25 Name: anubis!AnUBiS6/LQ : 2013-09-30 14:37 ID:wbJhFsQD [Del]

Bump for the awesomeness.

26 Name: Yamino : 2013-10-02 02:47 ID:wjlh+p99 [Del]

Great idea!
Just imagine if we were on every street and we could help people on that street.
Goodbye harassment.

27 Name: anubis!AnUBiS6/LQ : 2013-10-03 21:22 ID:wbJhFsQD [Del]

bump for a real mission

28 Name: kylor : 2013-10-03 21:36 ID:r3NkoLqE [Del]

>>27 yes.

29 Name: Hite : 2013-10-04 18:34 ID:SlQjW8D3 [Del]

looks and sounds legit i'm in with this mission

30 Name: Litairtak Speruff!NRf7wfm3Qk : 2013-10-29 16:15 ID:plthaz1D (Image: 400x96 jpg, 20 kb) [Del]

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Great to see that these tips could be of help. Hopefully, there will be even more people who can profit from this. Here's another site with ideas on how to deal with street harassment:

Dealing with Harassers

31 Name: Kienna : 2013-10-29 19:55 ID:K0EtVP6E [Del]

>>10 Carrying pepper spray or a small 3.5 inch knife is a good idea, in case someone physically tries to hurt you, or force you to let them have their way, but if they ask for sex or catcall you, just ignore them. I have the same things done to me every once in a while and it's really not that big of a deal when you've got your head held high and you know the bastards are not worth shit. Just ignore them, and don't even look at them or acknowledge their existence. They're filth, they're below you and they're not worth your attention.

32 Name: Kanra : 2013-10-29 19:59 ID:ZWfIGyMp [Del]

I don't think i could of said it better myself Kienna, but most sexual harassments happen at night. So just don't go out at night :3

33 Name: Litairtak Speruff!NRf7wfm3Qk : 2014-02-23 08:46 ID:7kB/ggnn (Image: 437x321 jpg, 33 kb) [Del]

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34 Name: Chreggome : 2014-02-23 19:58 ID:ETfLoXaX [Del]

>>10 Don't post pictures of yourself for attention.

I think this mission is dangerous and fucking stupid.

You could ignore pigs on the street instead of provoking them to respond further.

It's like you fucking women have no common sense.
Derp.

35 Name: HeartbeatKnight : 2014-02-23 23:24 ID:flRBwH5s [Del]

Ladies and perhaps some gentlemen, I would recommend martial arts, pepper spray, or shots to the growing. That's all you need to do in order to stop street harassment.

36 Name: wolf pack gang leader : 2014-02-24 17:37 ID:uRQPptGA [Del]

>>13
"Never stop the perpetrator/s from leaving the site! People were killed because they cornered him/them."

this is true put they have died with honer and i as a person of strong balef and this is my opinion i do not recommend it to the younger members bit i baleve in a stand and fight approach and as i said my own opinion as i am not a small person how ever i have hade my share of hospitalizations from these approaches and i would do it all again for me doing something dispiet my own life endangerment to save another is well worth it and again my own opinion i just cant stand and not give that punk a good helping of his own punishment and i cant help but think if i dont act what will happen to this person and if i dont catch that ass hole thine he'll just keep doing it

and again my own opinion

37 Name: wolf pack gang leader : 2014-02-24 18:34 ID:uRQPptGA [Del]

>>34 and who the bloody hell made you the judge and you cant always ignore pigs hell even sometimes that just makes them more agresiv and sometimes even makes thime what you more so your hell of a post is just stuped i mean

"It's like you fucking women have no common sense.
Derp."
that is way out of line even for a sexist so just deal with it this mission is one of the best iv seen on this dollars site it remindes me of the old dollars you know the ones who gave a fuck about help ing ppl get rid of ppl like these pigs and to help children how dont have any one else so if you think its stuped then go look in a mirrier you sexist dosh

38 Name: Chreggome : 2014-02-25 01:13 ID:xRG/d18K [Del]

>>37 I'm not the judge, but it's a basic human right to judge anything and everything.
If the pigs get aggro, know how to defend yourself.

My post is stupid?
All of your fucking posts are stupid.

It's not out of line and I'm not sexist.

Also, the Dollars aren't about helping people.
We help people when we see fit and we cause harm because we can.
The point is, we don't do anything.
We aren't confined by your pathetic ideas of right and wrong.

I think this mission is stupid.
I think you are stupid.
I think you can't spell, I think you can't string words together to make a thought.
I think you are either fucked all retarded, 12 years old, or some kind of dick sucking weeabo.

Now, if we're done acting like children; how about you attack my argument instead of my character. :DD

39 Name: wolf pack gang leader : 2014-02-25 04:41 ID:uRQPptGA [Del]

>>38 your wrong we dont help ppl when we se fit we help ppl when thay need us and i may be retarded but at lest i have enough balls to go out ant help ppl for the sake of helping them the dollars was as i recall from the old web site a menes of communacaton to help ppl so i dont give a fuck if u dont like it but thats what the dollars are here for to help ppl and thare are a hundred others just like me that would give thare lives to save even one other and thouse men have honor

40 Name: dogrl101/Freenix : 2014-02-25 20:22 ID:uWVc5Uv7 [Del]

HOW CAN WE EVER MAKE A DIFFERENCE WHEN WE FIGHT AMONGST OURSELVES? Dont reply, just think about it.

41 Name: wolf pack gang leader : 2014-02-25 20:46 ID:uRQPptGA [Del]

>>40 i know it says dont reply but i just whant to say your right


"may the wolf goddess see your kind a just soul to paridice"

42 Name: MaskSalesman : 2014-05-21 09:35 ID:iGDQD4X6 [Del]

I don't agree with it all, but there are some good points here >>13

43 Name: Litairtak Speruff!NRf7wfm3Qk : 2014-08-29 15:34 ID:w8ZdGURR (Image: 1200x858 jpg, 116 kb) [Del]

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Time to dig up my old mission and bring it back to life:

How to deal with gangs

44 Name: Yuri !719V2SSC1E : 2014-08-30 11:48 ID:uxfaq9xg [Del]

Part of staying alert is to dress appropriately and to stay confident. If you walk with your back straight, chin up, and eyes bright, then you might attract less weirdos. But, in the end, it could happen to anyone, so definitely carry a pocket knife, pepper spray, and take a basic self defense class.

>>40 I know you said not to reply -.-. I think a little arguing is okay, as long as it's productive. But, that's an important point.

45 Name: Litairtak Speruff!NRf7wfm3Qk : 2015-02-11 19:09 ID:ew50EyAI (Image: 600x700 jpg, 41 kb) [Del]

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Reminder: >>13 How to deal with robbery, public harassment and other dangerous situations

Today, I saw a wanted poster at my local supermarket. A few nights ago, two women were sexually assaulted, one of them was raped on the grass verge of a nearby street. This is a reminder for everyone (not only for the women!) to stay alert when you go out at night. Be safe!

46 Name: Memoria !6Mf4TPP4x. : 2015-04-12 20:10 ID:dfqmtlja [Del]

bump

47 Name: Anonymous : 2015-04-12 20:15 ID:SG7MDVfC [Del]

>>45 You've been around this long???

48 Name: Akano : 2015-07-01 17:00 ID:MtaOQ02Q [Del]

This mission is nice. It would help many people. It would be cool if we had a chatroom where the Dollars who have problems like that tell us what happened with them and if a dollar member lives nearby they can maybe help if its always the same person who annoys the person who needs help.

I don't know if its a good idea but anyway, I just tried to help ^^