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Need help in making my manga Hikari become famous. (78)

1 Name: Yoshimori : 2012-03-21 17:26 ID:G2fKn3Bp (Image: 320x240 jpg, 10 kb) [Del]

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I've been working on my anime for about 3 years now and it seems not to be getting out into the world. I need the dollars help in making Hikari at least get its name out there.

Youtube:http://www.youtube.com/user/​Hikari11100

Facebook:http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hikari/172941519436040

Thank You :D

2 Name: sleepology !CHs4eVJ3O2 : 2012-03-21 17:33 ID:gxkw1jTj [Del]

Again? Ugh..

3 Name: Fap : 2012-03-21 18:16 ID:7i+drgBU [Del]

Sounds interesting

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5 Name: bang-bang : 2012-03-21 18:45 ID:ZZssIs+E [Del]

I...

Your title is scribbled on a crumpled piece of paper. I'm sorry, but you can't expect people to take you seriously with that, you just can't.

6 Name: Misuto!M4ZBq07Cs. : 2012-03-22 00:38 ID:JFdQaEby [Del]

I'm going to be frank with you, which will be difficult because I have a headache from watching your videos.

This is not going to make it in the manga industry. In fact, it is an insult to artists everywhere to think that it would. Why, you ask?

Do you have any idea the amount of effort people put into creating comics, animations, or any artwork? It does not require one to buy Grade A "manga paper", or use a cheap animation software to churn out some half-assed thing that anyone with a basic level of drag-and-drop functions on the computer could do. People put real effort into this sort of thing, taking years to develop a unique style and story before releasing it to the public. What you have is cliche, at best.

I'm not saying this to be mean, but to put you in your place. Do this as a hobby; something for fun, with your friends. Because that's just fine.
You are not going to be a professional - it doesn't matter how much shit you've bought. That's like buying a nice camera and saying you'll be a professional photographer.

And if it took you three years of hard work to make what you did, then I really have no words for you. More than likely, it took you three years because most of it was spent not actually working on it the whole time. Don't try to inflate it by including downtime. The amount of time you spend working on something does not increase its quality, in the end. I could spend 10 years scribbling on a sheet of paper every day; doesn't make it quality art.

So please, for the sake of your own dignity and free time allocation.

Just stop.

7 Name: Senzaka : 2012-03-22 02:21 ID:DydXhxbp [Del]

Well... I guess I am a little disappointed at the fact that I actually did watch one of your youtube videos. I'm not trying to suggest that it's terrible but I do agree with Misuto that calling your animation of little characters an anime and trying to make it famous via Dollars would indeed be insulting to manga or fan artists.

Unfortunately, it is not fair for you to try and promote your animation unless people approve of your works, regardless of the time you have spent on designing your animation, whether it be the characters or the plot.

8 Name: Yoshimori : 2012-03-22 10:57 ID:G2fKn3Bp [Del]

It's just a start plus there will be more video's up I'm just trying to get it started. And this drawing was made about 2 years ago so of course its gonna be alittle beat up. What do you expect?

9 Name: Misuto!M4ZBq07Cs. : 2012-03-22 14:08 ID:JFdQaEby [Del]

>>8 I expected you to be a little more professional and less lazy if what you were doing was worth a damn.

You seem to be under the impression that you can start from the finished product, instead of doing all the necessary steps. If you're really, truly trying to do this professionally, you need to start over from the very beginning. Develop an art style before you make art. Develop a story before you throw together every cliche from every anime ever. Learn animation instead of using a cheap thing you downloaded off the internet (I mean seriously, do you believe any self-respecting professional animator uses GoAnimate?). Learn to walk before you can run, and don't enter a god damned 400 meter dash when you can barely crawl.

However.

My personal advice?
Don't go professional.

This isn't your passion, this is a hobby. You're doing this purely for fun, and it should be left at that. Make characters, make up adventures for them, animate or draw them if that pleases you, and share it among your friends. You aren't at a level that you can compare to anyone in the professional field of comics, and you don't need to be in order to enjoy something.

Stick to your guns. Don't quit your day job/stay in school, whichever of those applies to you.

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11 Name: Yoshimori : 2012-03-22 15:30 ID:G2fKn3Bp [Del]

>>9 If you was so worked up on this, if your so smart you SHOULD of watch the rest of the video's one of them say that I am NO longer making the GoAnimate video's. Plus I said that I'm looking to get some view's and stuff to help get the anime out there. I never thought that you would get so personal about something that is just getting started, and even though as I said before THERE ARE GOING TO BE MORE VIDEO'S UP SOON

My thing all about this is, ( and I'm only speaking to you about this)that why get so damn personal and start acting like a dick when clearly I'm trying to get people to see that there's more into being an asshole or being lazy to make an anime.

My thing is: That I'm just asking the dollars to view are channle here & there, there will be more video's up and there will be some cool stuff and if you don't like it. DON'T COMMENT ON THIS THREAD.

12 Name: Seika Chugo !!dZlEviJU : 2012-03-22 17:01 ID:lsLaztE9 [Del]

Haven't seen the videos yet; only the preview.

First
>manga
>anime
which is it?

Anime requires animation; no matter how limited anime's animation can be, without quality art, it will not work. Not to mention in order to market anything without copyright issues, you need original music, and a good original story. That usually takes a team of people to put together, can't be done by a single person.
Manga is the better route to go until you can acquire all of that.
On the topic of manga, (because I have asked a couple successful manga artists about it because I was interested in it), post it online first; webcomics get you used to deadlines and steady release dates/working on a schedule, the basics. Another thing is to get your art out in conventions, even snippets of manga. Even if it doesn't sell well, it helps you get used to marketing when the time comes you actually have to sell these things or a sample at conventions. If people like your art, generally they'll be more interested in your comic.

And on the topic of everything, you need to make sure you have everything developed properly before you even try getting the name out there. Like Misuto said, you're trying to run before you can walk. Don't advertise something scrawled out on a piece of paper, the time you took making this thread and whining about criticism and someone's opinion/advice (who makes several good points) you could have spent improving and making your title image look more professional at least.

Clearly, you aren't an artist; so do you have an artist? Judging by your spelling and grammar, you aren't a writer either; so do you have a writer? For both of these; anime or manga they both start with a script, much like a play; then storyboards, then you have to map out framework and either start voice recording or start mapping out boxes and page layouts.
They all take a considerable amount of time.

You definitely seem passionate, but on another note; don't quit your day job is excellent advice. Manga and books aren't the best career choice because it's shaky. If you write a best seller, you're set; but if you flop time and time again, you might just be scrambling for food!
And just because it's well written or interesting does not mean it will become a best seller. Depends on who gets it and if the wave of chance happens to bring it to a larger audience.

Take twilight for example. Shit. Horribly written, terrible story; curls the toenails of any mythology nut and yet it is popular. Why? Well, I haven't the slightest idea, but people like it.

Writers can spend most of their lives writing what they consider their best book ever, and yet it's one of their worst that flies off the shelves.

You are nowhere near the professional level and need to work on every aspect of it. Like Misuto said, do it as a side thing; take art classes, writing classes, work on improving before you start anything like this because I can almost guarantee if you keep going on like you are, you won't get anywhere.

13 Name: Dollars member : 2012-03-22 19:54 ID:OURh2qeE [Del]

As long as you try hard ever time i think you make it with the help of friends or co-workers if you plan to make a team :)

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15 Name: Yoshimori : 2012-03-22 21:56 ID:G2fKn3Bp [Del]

>>12 We anyway as I said before it takes time to make more video's there will be more not just from me but from other members. ( and yes I do have other members in my group,as i said before in another one of my video's ) I like how you watched ONE video than just started to talk about it, when clearly I said this in my video i don't like to repeat my self. But than again some of the stuff you said is true but some of it is just stuff that you shoud of looked at in the rest of the video's. But anyway as I said befor more video's are coming SOON it takes time.

There should be one up on 3/26/12 or 3/24/12 the first manga page should be up on our channle on 3/30/12 or on here by 4/1/12 maybe earlier but it takes time you can't rush everything in life. So just sit back and say tuned for those dates to come up. And once they do we can talk about the manga page and the other stuff coming up but intill than, Try to keep your-self posted on that channle because you never know when "Hikari" might hit #1 in the future.

P.S. Yes I'm not a good writer you right I sometimes cant spell your right about that to. But still I'm gonna become the best manga writer out there some day in the future "Hikar" is gonna past Naruto, Bleach and even One Piece one day. I'm not telling you to WATCH are channle or BUY the manga I'm just saying the dollars should look into it. Also when "Hikari" does hit #1 ( if your stilll alive that is) I will post it all over the dollars, so its basically like your kissing "Hikari's"

16 Name: Seika Chugo !!dZlEviJU : 2012-03-22 22:13 ID:lsLaztE9 [Del]

>>15 I'm sorry, but Goanimate is hard to understand sometimes because of the way it groups words. I hate it. For the most part I hate mechanical voices (the only exceptions being Vocaloid and like one or two other things) and can't take them seriously.

Also, I'd rather read information than watch a video. I can read at whatever pace I want, videos, you're stuck wasting whatever time the video is at. I can multitask while reading too, during a video I have to stop my music and whatever I'm watching to watch that, more annoying. That and the Naruto video kinda threw me off. Random as it can get :I

Plus if you post on here, and don't explain things people aren't going to take the time to watch a video when it's more convenient to read what's on the thread.

Of course it takes time. I never said you need to rush, but don't go posting threads unless you're going to advertise properly (like a written summary instead of a link to like, 5 videos I don't have time to watch those. Takes much less time to read a short summary than watch 5 videos.)

You didn't 'hook' me. I am really uninterested in this because I know next to nothing and hate watching Youtube videos that aren't funny. (or good quality animation/music. Like seriously. Thats all I use Youtube for. I have a short attention span when it comes to videos.)

Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece honestly aren't good goals. One Piece, yeah. The other two are terrible: animation, quality, scene progression, and summarizing. Thats actually another good example of what I had said before that the most popular things can be terrible.

I gave you basic tips that most anyone looking into working on a manga or anime should know.

You have bounds of determination and that's good; but determination doesn't make a series. I'm just saying it like it is and my opinion.
Also, the first series or book in a series that an author/team makes rarely ever hits #1; because the more you do, the better you get.


One question though, why are 3 introductions necessary? Is it really that complicated?

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18 Name: Yoshimori : 2012-03-23 15:03 ID:G2fKn3Bp [Del]

>>16 Well I'm sorry that you feel that way against video's but, still I rather make video's than type out a whole thing of what I'm saying. Like seriously I like talking alittle more than typing. But, Hey thats what it takes to become a name writter right? Like I will write out some stuff to "explain", (I say this with thought.) my self if it comes down to that point.

This thread was only something that the Dollars can just look up into. (if they wanted to) Now when I post up more stuff about "Hikari" there will be more detail of what I'm trying to say. I'm just trying to get "Hikari out there first, no need to rush it. By the end of this year I hope "Hikaris" name is atleast out there.

Also could you stop with the video crap? Like seriously, I told you, (three times now) That there will be more video's up just WAIT and plus not all Youtube video's only have "5 video's on them" So basically your saying that all Youtube channle's have 5 video's I'm I right? If not you did say this,

"Like a written summary instead of a link to like, 5 videos I don't have time to watch those. Takes much less time to read a short summary than watch 5 videos."

19 Name: Seika Chugo !!dZlEviJU : 2012-03-23 17:11 ID:lsLaztE9 [Del]

>>18 Well, you're going to have to write regardless. You need a final summary, and various scripts for each chapter as well as in depth character summaries if you ever hope to get this off the ground.
And what do you mean "name writer?" Like, what I don't understand is why you're so against writing a summary or something. You're going to have to, why not get it done first and then just copypaste it and keep developing from there?
Regardless of if you like videos better, you WILL need summaries and the ENTIRE story must be written out before any other kind of production can begin; otherwise it will be full of plotholes and inconsistencies and it won't get anywhere.

No, YOUR channel has 5 videos about Hikari. when did I ever say that every channel on the site has 5 videos? I'm saying that 5 videos is a bit much to ask people to watch to get a summary about something.

And I'll ask AGAIN, because apparently people on this site have problems answering questions they're asked, are 3 summaries really necessary?

And I'd also just like to ask why the name means light? With such a generic name, I feel that even if you get the name out there, somebody's gonna think it's for something else because it's rather popular. For character names as well as titles.

20 Name: Yoshimori : 2012-03-23 19:23 ID:G2fKn3Bp [Del]

>>19 First off I like how where having a cool conversationn with out any bad talking invoved. But anyway back to topic, I already have the script and story line already written I was gonna wait intill the day of the manga to come out, to show people what the script version looks like. Still I like talking but what does that have to do with scripting and developing?

Also our channle may have only 5 video's but there will be more up soon so lets end that conversation about video's on our channle.

I'm already ahead of you when it comes down to stuff like that. You like to think that I JUST started this I told you it was up for 3 years.

And the name, "Hikari" I found that name because it has alot to do with Japanese. ( Meaning gods and ect.) It is light because it also has something to do with Yin & Yang.

What have you would of named it?

21 Name: Seika Chugo !!dZlEviJU : 2012-03-23 20:04 ID:lsLaztE9 [Del]

>>20 Well there's no reason for badmouthing at all lol
Most arguments don't need it. People just throw it in when they run out of vocabulary.
What do you mean? Whats does what have to do with scripting and developing?

*facepalm* I'm not saying add more, I'm saying that it's strange you expect people to watch all five to get a gist of the story.

I never said you just started it. I read this entire thread; I know you've been working on it for 3 years. I'd been working on a story for four years with one of my friends (which we kinda gave up on; hope to bring it back to life one day) but the point is, I can describe the gist of the story in one to three paragraphs. Paragraphs, not videos. Videos can summarize several pages depending on how fast one speaks.

Thats actually another thing you're going to have to do, is learn to summarize quickly. Such as chapter summaries so you don't have to go back and read the entire several page script to know what's going on and plan accordingly.

Well I still don't know the story actually, so I'm not quite sure.
What kind of gods does it deal with? I love mythology o3o

22 Name: mei-chan : 2012-03-23 20:56 ID:UrLr+UMB [Del]

do u have online scans of it? and how many chapters?

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24 Name: Yoshimori : 2012-03-24 15:43 ID:G2fKn3Bp [Del]

>>21 I know about all this I was just SAYING that the dollars should look into are new channle of Hikari. If you would like I can write out a paragraph regarding about "Hikari." Also Hikari is based off of "Japanese Mythology" (Like Susanoo, Amaterasu, Fuji and ect.)

25 Name: Detective Trap !9eHot4WQvA : 2012-03-24 16:10 ID:vFrhvCzN [Del]

Dear Yoshimori,
Do you even know anything about the manga industry? Yeah you've been working on a manga for 3 years now, but that doesn't mean it's any good. From what I've seen in your videos, i get the impression that you and a couple of friends to make a manga/anime, and that's cool. In fact I used to do that all the time. But the fact that you are conceited enough to think that it could be #1, or anywhere close, is where your problem lies.

First off, it looks like you don't know anything about the manga making progress. All you have is "Grade A" comic book paper from Japan. Good job. It's not like just anyone can buy that off the internet.

Secondly, everything seems very non-professional. As mentioned before several times, don't run before you can walk. Before even trying to promote your work, you should at least have a finished sample or something to show off, otherwise it's going to look like crap. And the fact that your logo is the word "Hikari" on a crumpled up piece of paper doesn't make it better either. The plot also seems really dull and overused. It also seems very similar to Naruto, in my opinion.

Also, you can't just put out random Japanese words in your manga without knowing Japanese. And if it takes you 3 years to make 1 chapter, then you'll never get far. A professional manga artist, like the creators of Naruto and Bleach, have to come up with a full chapter EVERY WEEK.

I also think that the fact that think that your manga will be #1 eventually makes me angry. Dragon Ball has sold over 200 million copies and you think you can get anywhere close to that. A manga/anime done by an amateur with no experience wouldn't be able to go close to that, let alone close to 1,000. And the fact that you think you can produce an anime version of it by yourselves. You do know that the anime like Naruto and Durarara are made by professionals who have had years of experience right?

Overall, it's fine that you want to make your own dōjinshi manga, but don't expect it to be anywhere close to #1, or even popular. If you want to become a manga artist go to Japan. And don't even say that you're going to make your own anime because then you fail. Unless you're someone who already has thousands of fans like Oceanchan, or you're someone with mad talent like Mashiro and Takagi, you're never going to get far at this stage.

26 Name: Seika Chugo !!dZlEviJU : 2012-03-24 16:30 ID:lsLaztE9 [Del]

>>24 Then give us some quality stuff to look at. :/
You aren't gonna win any fans by doing things like this. It honestly looks halfassed the way you're presenting it.

If you're trying to collect a fanbase, you don't show a sketch on a piece of paper that's two years old, you show a finished piece of work at least. Good grammar helps. The fact that the wrong words and horrible spelling are being used in this conversation make this look even less professional than it could've potentially looked.
If you know all about what I've been saying, then why haven't you been working on it?

I would've liked a summary back when I first asked for it. I'm sort of losing interest the more this conversation develops due to your conceitedness.

Honestly, you're a puzzling kid. Your goal is to surpass other mangas and have this be the best; but you seem to have the mentality of a procrastinator as throughout all of this, I've been saying you should write a summary, and you only just now think to suggest it yourself. Doesn't add up. Alot of people do the same thing, and they never get past the drawing board.

:I There is like, a shitton of stuff in any mythology including Japanese. That is just one aspect of it. So is it just along that particular myth, or what?

27 Name: Misuto!M4ZBq07Cs. : 2012-03-25 04:13 ID:JFdQaEby [Del]

Delusions of grandeur.

Inability to accept criticisms.

Directly putting down the potential "audience," whenever they have anything to say that isn't support.

If I ever had any reason to offer you advice, support, or even belief, I have lost it. You are acting like a child, and you have the ideals of one.

To shorten my otherwise lengthy message (which I deleted in order to condense in one statement),
If you found no value in my previous post, and attributed it to me trying to crush your dreams and getting "personal," then you are beyond help, and you far underestimate how impersonal I was trying to be by avoiding discourse on things like terrible plot design and being a total weeaboo. Which I still won't do, because you'll just miss the point more.

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30 Name: Yoshimori : 2012-03-25 10:47 ID:G2fKn3Bp [Del]

>>25, >>26, >>27 True I do have some spelling problems that because, I study other languages. (other than English) Also I should be getting some work done with my manga plus I KNOW its gonna hit #1. On that note its not even CLOSE to have the same stuff as Naruto. In my manga there are Ninja & Samurai in my manga. Not just NINJA'S (There are no hand-signs also in this manga) As for the way I put this thread is because, I wanted the Dollars to just look into it. I see that you don't understand that even though I said it over four times now.

>>26 I do know it gonna be #1 someday and still your RUSHING. Your asking me to make something that takes time our manga is not just based only on that mythology it based off of different types of Japanese myths. (more or less our manga is just a cool thing) I would of responded earlier but I have a life so I can't be on here 24/7. But if you would keep yourself posted on the Hikari channel you may get what your looking for.

>>25 Well I know its gonna hit #1, (as I said before) but still this picture was taken 3 years ago. And if you want a update on this picture there should be one up today. (As i said before there are other people than just me.) Meaning I'm not the only on who knows/owns that channel. Also the anime/manga "Naruto" is completely different from my manga. Question: Does the anime/manga Naruto has anything to do with mythology? Does Naruto have Ninja and Samurai? In Naruto does the "tailed beast" have different nature's of energy? (if so my anime has more) That was a horrible way to put my anime against even though you have no clue what it's exactly about yet.

>>26 Your "Fan's" don't have to look into Hikari you know? It's your life/will do what you wish with it.

31 Name: Seika Chugo !!dZlEviJU : 2012-03-25 11:47 ID:lsLaztE9 [Del]

>>30 What does studying other languages have to do with having improper english? When I learned Spanish, or even now when I'm teaching myself Latin, it has never interfered with my english.

Let me ask you this, how do you, someone who can't spell properly or have anything decent to show us about this, expect it to hit #1? And don't say you just know, that's the fool's response.
Rushing? It takes maybe 5 minutes to put together a simple summary. Do you not comprehend what a summary is?

*facepalm* AGAIN, I don't want to watch videos; I'd like to read about the stupid thing. I'm not gonna subscribe to a channel when as I have stated before, I have no interest in.

And I never said anything about my fans. Where the hell are you getting this stuff? I'm saying YOU won't have any fans. Meaning this won't get anywhere. And if it's my life, then how come every post, you keep pestering me to subscribe to your channel? I said no, it doesn't interest me, and you keep persisting.

Earlier you said the pictures was 2 years ago, now it's 3?

Yes, Naruto has to do with mythology; where do you think the 9 Tailed Fox is from? Kitsunes are found regularly in Korean, Chinese, and Japanese mythology for being troublemakers among other things.

I'm listening to your summaries now; first: if you have a channel specifically for "Hikari" why are you posting junk that has nothing to do with it?
Grade A supplies don't matter. Generally just wastes money. A good bristle board works fine, just have to cut it and draw the lines yourself.
Subscribers get free stuff? How much money do you have to waste? You aren't gonna make money from the start, so how do you expect to pay for any of this?
Free manga you make? You're gonna have to post it for free to even get the name out there.

16 year old child with a god sealed inside of him as a baby-> Naruto
Not gonna count that Yoshimori is from Kekkaishi and is about the same age.
So this kid that doesn't know how to fight, and is completely normal; has no fighting experience and supposedly lived a normal life besides his strange powers that leaked now and again; just hears about the villain and leaps into action when he doesn't have a clue how to fight?
He wouldn't last a minute, god or not.

This is a terrible summary. Even in fiction, it has to be SOMEWHAT realistic, at least in the way the people would react in these situations.
What is Yoshimori's driving force? How does he even know about the villain? Where does this take place?
Are they just floating in some void bein' all "WHELP SEEMS TO ME, THERE'S TROUBLE AFOOT."

You give no premise for much of anything. There are only three characters in the story? Thats all I heard from the second introduction besides the millions of gods and creatures. And this is a romantic comedy action series? What, the hero and villain hook up? Why is the villain introduced immediately; we don't even know who the allies are yet, or the main character's personality even.
The storyline is rather dull too; very generic. Boy with supernatural powers trying to stop a war the villain is trying to start. What drives the villain to start the war? Why does the main character even care if he's a normal kid? Why is the villain named the common Zero? Zero from Nightmare before Christmas; Zero from Vampire Knight; Zero from Code Geass; Zero is such a common name, villain and ally alike; my friend even has a dog named Zero.
Kimarroukou? Who is he? Where did he come from? Did he just fall out of the sky at Yoshimori's door and say "Yo guy I don't know, I have a god too. No idea how I even know you have one, but I do."
This really explains nothing. You're just telling us three characters are fighting with powers of godlyness.
This can describe like 20 other manga series.
Where did you even mention there were ninjas OR samurai in your 2 introductions? How do you expect us to know anything more than what you tell us?
Don't you dare say that 'it will be explained in time'.

This is not a proper summary, it does not give the necessary information for anything. If the entire idea of the story has to be explained later because there's nothing to it, then no; it's nowhere NEAR enough to interest people.

Geez, you expect people to take an interest in this?
You give virtually no information as to the story itself.
It's you're trying to describe an apple and the only thing you say is "it's red". Well, what's red? How do we even know what it is?


^That is what I got from watching your videos as you've bothered me to do so much throughout the conversation.

My proper review after watching your introductions?

You probably don't know the basis of your own story, and thats why you refuse to give more information on it. This seems like your average anime; I expect every question I asked above to be answered before I even CONSIDER subscribing to your channel.
I know next to nothing about anything that's going on in this series. You say there's romance but there's no love interest? You say it's funny, but there's no indication of humor whatsoever in the summary, or any idea what the main character is like. If he's a normal schoolboy, why would he even want to fight?
Doesn't make much sense with the information we are given. When you give a summary, you need to give enough to interest people, but not enough to spoil it. You barely gave enough to make it understandable.

The summary you gave is the equivalent of this:
You know the story of little red riding hood; give a summary that says "It's about a wolf stalking a girl and trying to eat her because he's hungry and a wolf and big and mean and the girl has a love interest, and it's got alot of action, and the wolf is strong."
...Okay, that gave us no information as to what Little Red Ridinghood is actually about. Not interesting.
A summary would be:
"It's about a young girl off to visit her grandmother who had recently gotten sick. Despite her mother's warning, she stopped along the path to pick flowers and lost her way; a large, wolf approached her in her time of need, and after a short game of questions and answers, gave her directions to a shortcut that would get her there faster than the one she was on earlier. Little did Red know, she was headed down a path that was much longer than the original, and the wolf who had seemed so kind moments before, really had a diabolical plan that would change her life forever."
See how that gives us actual information, and interests the reader?


Alright, I think I'm done ranting. Your move, Yoshimori.

32 Name: Seika Chugo !!dZlEviJU : 2012-03-25 11:56 ID:lsLaztE9 [Del]

*Yoshimori from Kekkaishi
*When I say "How does he even know about the villain" I know Kimarroukou or whatever told him, but how did that conversation even start? It's not like daily chatter; "So how's the weather?"
"Hmmm, not bad, could be better, but there's this evil guy trying to start a war right over there."
Also, how does the hero even know what Zero looks like if he just up and wants to stop him?

*there are mistakes that I'm too lazy to correct like misplaced commas; think I got some of the more noticable errors

33 Name: Yoshimori : 2012-03-25 16:05 ID:G2fKn3Bp [Del]

>>31 I'm not making you subscribe you IDIOT. YOU don't have to smart one. And as for the spelling that's just me, my body works differently from other people. In which case seem like you don't know that. Example: "That's why other people get other things, for instance STD. is something that a different person gets." (which is not good at all) As for me when I learn or study a language that I just study like 3 days ago I miss spell words.

Than again your RUSHING again DAMN!, your so damn difficult like really do you want a summary that damn bad that you have to waste in life's time to make? IF you would stop "RUSHING" I could of made one for you from the start. Plus I know how long it takes to make a summary, obviously I've been making and creating anime/manga's my whole life. I would know this, this only anime that I've accuracy tried to make into something.

As for your little thing about watching "OUR" video's. (I said this before also that, I'm not the only one.) You finally watched them but still it kinda to late for that.

And the name's Yoshimori, Zero are just name's. The name "Zero" is his nickname from his group called the "Jaakuna gurūpu." (meaning evil group in japanese.) And plus there is a reason he wants to fight. He was NOT born with Fuji sealed inside of him, he known he had powers but never told much people about them. Sense your so worked up I'll make your summary,

Hikari summary: It's about a boy named Yoshimori, who has very odd powers of only one Nature which is wind. In till the world was slowly getting taken over by Zero,"The leader of Jaakuna gurūpu." (Evil Group) One day at school Yoshimori met a man who had tried to attack his sister, (Saiku) Yoshimori rushes to attack the man, but in disguise was Zero. Yoshimori never known who he was but he lost the fight and Zero told Yoshimori to continue with his life and says he was sorry he hit his sister. The next day Yoshimori heard that a new kid, (Kimaraku) was in Japan and had the same powers has he did but very different. Kimaraku meets Yoshimori one day at his school. They exchange fist after school. (because he had tried to attack Yoshimori) Yoshimori defeats him with his move Hikari-ken. (Light Fist)Kimaraku tells Yoshimori to follow him, despite all the people who saw the fight and is aware of Yoshimoris powers. Kimaraku introduces Yoshimori to the S.S.N.S. (Super Secret Ninja Squad)Yoshimori meet's five more people Kenji, Hisuna, Lisa, Sugetsu & Senji with the same unique powers but different Nature. He tells Yoshimori about Zero collecting God's and creator all around the world and making a powerful machine. Yoshimori, Kenji, Hisuna, Lisa, Sugetsu and Senji are off to try and stop all evil group members. Yoshimori than vows that, "He will not let gods and Creator be treated that way. He will turn the world of Japan back to normal."

That's what it basically is about, (although I just kinda did that from my head.) Plus that was only part one of the series and I know that the part when Zero is collecting the gods and creator are similar to the Akatsuki in Naruto but in Hikari there a accuracy more things to do, plus there are 3 parts instead of 2. Plus I think between Naruto and Hikari basically there isn't really no copyright of or from Naruto are in Hikari. Don't get all happy and think that I just made this because you showed me what a summary is because. Your sadly mistaken I didn't do it because of that I did it because I want to know what is your opinion. (even though it might be another story about how you think you know so much about manga. Or how I have to do this and that when clearly the dollars should just look into it.)

Still as I said before I could care less about Seika Chugo or whatever subscribing to our channel It your DAMN life and opinion. I don't think you could speak for anyone else now can you?

Now I'm done with the spelling, rushing and plus summary thing I wonder if your happy now? Sense you've been asking me "from the start" to make a summary. I guess where even on things.

Get your game on Seika Chugo because. It's your move, I end my turn

34 Name: Yoshimori : 2012-03-25 16:06 ID:G2fKn3Bp [Del]

Meant to say creator's sorry

35 Name: Yoshimori : 2012-03-25 16:18 ID:G2fKn3Bp [Del]

Yoshimori: Hey, Sugetsu you get that information about Seika Chugo?

Sugetsu: Yeah it says he has created a anime and never finished it because someone told him off.

*Yoshimori looks surprised*

Yoshimori: "Told him off" what do you mean?

Sugetsu: You know people talking about it and he could never continue his dream.

Lisa: That's not right no matter how people's opinions are, don't ever quit on your dream.

Yoshimori: I can't believe he joined the Jaakuna gurūpu he should of continued his dream.

Sugetsu: Yeah!, and stop talking about other people's work so they could be as miserable as he is.

Hisuna: Seika Chugo doesn't know much no need to get worked up over that.

Yoshimori: I don't care what he says I'm gonna continue my manga and stop listen to his lame story's.

Kimaraku: Yoshimori, Lisa, Hisuna, Sugetsu get back on the mission and continue saving the world.

Yoshimori,Hisuna, Lisa, Sugetsu: Yes sir!

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37 Name: Detective Trap !9eHot4WQvA : 2012-03-25 17:59 ID:vFrhvCzN [Del]

First off,
>>35 ...what the fuck ._.

Ok back on topic.
>>30 YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE NUMBER ONE. If you want it to be number one get it serialized in a big name JAPANESE manga magazine like Jump. There's no such thing as a self-published manga that gets so insanely popular that it gets an anime adaption, and then becomes the number one manga. NO SUCH THING. If you want that to happen then take your manga to a editor that works for a manga company IN JAPAN (notice how I'm emphasizing JAPAN). Have you ever heard of a manga made in the US becoming really popular? No. The US is known for comic books not manga.

You don't even know how hard it is to become number 1. You're so ignorant. There are a lot of great manga out there that haven't even been published yet. Let me repeat what I said earlier. DragonBall, the number 1 manga of all time, sold 200 MILLION (TWO HUNDRED MILLION) FUCKING COPIES. Naruto only has HALF that amount sold, but has more volumes. And if you haven't read DragonBall and think you can reach #1, then you obviously don't know how good it is compared to yours. It's fucking genius. And if you have read it (actually read the manga, not watch the anime) and still think you can get #1, then you're frickin stupid.

>>33 I don't even know what to say. Your summary was really sloppy and makes it even more similar to Naruto, and making it seem like Avatar the Last Airbender as well. Your plot seems really boring and overused. "Ninjas with elemental powers trying to stop an evil organization from ruling the world." And not to mention the Japanese school settings and an antagonist named Zero. Also, you can't just go to Google Translate and find a bunch of different Japanese words like Hikari ken and Jaakuna gurūpu with out knowing the context. To add to that, you can't make a story that's set in a Japanese school without actually knowing anything about Japanese school. Unless you know what Japanese school is like (meaning you've been to one), or done really good research, you can't do that. It's like me writing a story set in medieval times, but not knowing anything but the fact that there were knights.

Going back to knowing the Japanese language. As mentioned before, you can't use random Japanese words in your story that you got from Google Translate. Japanese syntax is structured VERY different from English. So saying something like "He walked the dog" in English would be structured like "he the dog walked." or something like that in Japanese. And Google Translate isn't always right because there are different synonyms for each word. For example, Google Translate says that the Korean word for "thank you" is "gamsa," but if you said that to someone like your mom you would look really stupid or rude because the correct word is "gamsamnida."

Again, going back to the story, it's way too cliche. Ok so there's a ninja with wind powers. Naruto. He meets another ninja with wind powers, but different. Naruto again. A bad guy named Zero. Pandora Hearts, Code Geass, etc. The main character fighting for his sister. Code Geass, Mawaru Penguindrum, etc. A group of kids with similar powers that have their own organization. Fairy Tail. And so on. Your summary is also really bad. It's really sloppy and hard to understand.

I would just like to say one more time that it is IMPOSSIBLE for your manga to be number one let alone popular. Dragon Ball is number 1 because it was able to quickly get a large fanbase due to it being in a very popular manga magazine. Also, Dragon Ball is one of the veteran manga (that means it's pretty old if you don't understand). Your manga is a self published, un professional, no experienced, team made, American, manga. Those kinds of manga never get close to number one, but a self published work could get thousands of copies sold, if it's good and the artist is well know (Oceanchan for example). Overall, YOU WILL NEVER FUCKING GET NUMBER 1 ON THIS MANGA.

Watch Bakuman or something. You could learn a lot just from that.

38 Name: Detective Trap !9eHot4WQvA : 2012-03-25 18:02 ID:vFrhvCzN [Del]

>>33 I would also like to add that you're not even on things with Seika Chugo. In fact you're not even close to beating him. He has outproved almost every single thing you've said and all you've done is defend yourself by saying how "great" your manga is and add more confusing shit to the story. So instead of telling Seika Chugo to get his game on, improve yours first. You can't brag about your losing move in chess without looking like an idiot.

39 Name: Seika Chugo !!dZlEviJU : 2012-03-25 19:15 ID:lsLaztE9 [Del]

>>33 Never said you were making me subscribe; I was saying that you pestering me about it in every single post you make is incredibly annoying. You're the idiot; remember when I said name calling only occurs when one runs out of vocabulary to use? You sir, have proven my point.

You're comparing language to an STD? WTF.
And you should learn your own language before you start on another. If people can't understand you in your native language, they sure aren't going to in another.
Unless english isn't your native language.

Okay; that is it.
Miriam Webster's definition of 'Rush': "to move forward, progress, or act with haste or eagerness or without preparation"
For me to be rushing you, I'd be saying "HEY POST SOMETHING RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW RIGHT NOW"
I have been asking since my what, first or second post for a summary; which takes not even five minutes to write.
If you have time to participate in a conversation of any kind and can boast and boast about how your story will be the best; you have the time to write a short summary. That is in no way rushing you. You've had three days since I first asked. How am I rushing you for asking for something that should've been in the initial post?

"IF you would stop "RUSHING" I could of made one for you from the start."
Then why didn't you?

"Plus I know how long it takes to make a summary, obviously I've been making and creating anime/manga's my whole life."
How old are you, 16? That doesn't count for anything. What other mangas have you been working on? And if you know all of this, then why didn't you do it from the start? Apparently what you have worked on didn't teach you everything if I can point out everything you're doing wrong.

Thank you for finally giving me a summary.
How does Yoshimori even know how to fight? You've said he's a normal schoolkid. Normal school children don't fight. And by fight, I mean the moves. How can he use 'light-fist' when his element is wind? And how did he even LEARN it. The only way you learn anything that's advanced enough for a name is through training, which normal schoolchildren don't have.
Why would Yoshimori trust the guy enough to follow him into a possible ambush after he defeats him?
Doesn't add up.

"world of Japan"? Japan is a country.....

Why would the dollars look into it? You've been a snippety little brat throughout all of this.
How come you didn't make a summary before then? When I first asked you?
And what do you mean 'think'? Alot of what I've told you is from actual manga artists, more specifically Svetlana Chmakova and Lindsay Cibos who came to my state; and I asked them directly. Two AMERICAN manga writers/artists who have actually gotten someplace. Svetlana specifically.

You just told me that the artist of a manga which has been published in 12 countries (I think it was 12) doesn't know what she's talking about.

As for the summary; you really can't write. I'm sorry.
That has to be the most unorganized summary I have ever read.
Getting past that part, this still seems rather generic. And because of that, it will never surpass the other generic manga that have already beaten you to the spot.
You made a huge point that Hikari wasn't like Naruto because it has samurai, yet there still is no mention of samurai being in there.
One moment you say that he was "in Japan" and the next you say "the world of Japan" a world and a country are not the same thing.
Honestly seems like you took a bunch of really popular mangas/anime series and combined them.

Why do things need to be in Japanese? We are not Japanese. Do you know anything about Japan other than a little bit of mythology and what you get out of anime?

You also apparently can't read. You haven't answered my wall of questions from my last comment.

And that was a terrible turn.

>>35 The fuck is this?
How is anybody going to find that funny when they don't know the characters?
And why would I give up on something because someone told me off? If I'm doing something wrong, and I'm told about it, I'm obviously going to research and correct it.
And if somebody says something doesn't work, then I can always go back and fix it. I'm not stupid, a story gets reworked a hundred times before you ever begin to see the final product.
When did I ever say I 'created an anime and never finished it'?
Anime take far too many resources for someone like me to start. I can write a story, and animate, but I don't have any musical skills and I'm just a beginner at animation.
Art however, I'm skilled at. I will draw a comic of sorts at some point; but you certainly don't know what pain goes into making even a short comic.

You should stop being so stuck up and actually accept help when others try to give it. It's obvious you haven't a clue what you're doing.
Not sure why you're getting pissy either, You're supposed to use criticism for improvement, not get butthurt and complain some more.

Also, why would I join anything with a group name as lame as Evil Group?
I'd rather join the mafia.

>>37 Don't bother helping him. According to him, he knows it all. Let the editor and publishing companies tell it to him if he even gets that far.

>>38 lol I'm a girl. Why does everyone assume I'm male?

And Yoshi, you have no lifepoints left. You were too busy gloating and wallowing in self-glory to see that.

And now, I can finally call you an idiot. I honestly have nothing more to add to this post since you won't accept help or criticism and get whiny and all self-important when someone tries to point anything out to you.
Do your research before you post anything.
Checkmate.

40 Name: Yoshimori : 2012-03-25 20:04 ID:G2fKn3Bp [Del]

>>39 Welp I guess your done than, even though I did take everything you guys said to heart. But I just corrected what you forgot to add. Anyway I may have lose the game but this isn't over there are gonna be more post about Hikari here and there. So keep a watch would ya? Never know when things that you said change the way I think and do things. But in till than the game has just begun. :D

41 Name: Yoshimori : 2012-03-25 20:05 ID:G2fKn3Bp [Del]

Also i wasn't making that little act funny just something I felt like doing.

42 Name: Seika Chugo !!dZlEviJU : 2012-03-26 00:06 ID:lsLaztE9 [Del]

>>40 Or you could; ya'know, continue to ignore every single question I've asked in the last two posts and not explain anything else so that it makes any more sense whatsoever. Not like I wanted any of it answered or anything.

Certainly didn't sound like you were taking any of it to heart; especially since you just kept repeating yourself post to post.

I dunno, you not answering or explaining any questions makes it really hard for me to even take an interest in this.

43 Name: Misuto!M4ZBq07Cs. : 2012-03-26 02:04 ID:40tIyqg6 [Del]

>>40 You have to understand. We don't dislike it because we dislike you. We don't dislike it to spite you. And we aren't telling you these things to be mean. It's astonishing, to me, that you say you're taking everything to heart, when in reality you've pretty much ignored any real, sound arguments.

I'm not telling you to stop posting your shit here, but what I am telling you that it isn't going to be well-received just on principle. From a very neutral perspective, not aimed at anything personal, it's really bad. And unless your standards are low enough that you like any genre of bad fanfiction, it's unlikely that people will enjoy it unless they're your own friends.

And, again, there's nothing wrong with doing something among friends. I don't understand why you insist on marketing it towards the general audience when the general audience has already told you they don't like it. That's just hardheaded and closed-minded.

People aren't going to like it, because we already told you we don't like it. And we're people. Do you not put two and two together, or is there a better way I can spell that out?

44 Name: Sky King : 2012-03-26 10:04 ID:Yxbuq49V [Del]

Dude... Im sorry but this is bad. Not to be mean but i quit after about five seconds. You should go back to the drawing board and try again with better animations.. at least

45 Name: Kinra : 2012-03-26 12:14 ID:HA9xkRlc [Del]

ummm... all i can say is... Animation cost a lot. I would say is find a better animation program, draw some of the characters your self, and then figure out how to do actual animation. Go look it up. There are ton of how to draw books and animation books and shit.. don't give up just get up and try again.... GOOD LUCK!!!! Also before you do animation start small and do comics or manga.. it might help... Just Remember to start small first. Don't dream to big,,, just start small and build your self up... Learn how to draw if you have to....

46 Name: Kinra : 2012-03-26 13:10 ID:HA9xkRlc [Del]

Also try Deviant art....

47 Name: BarabiSama!!C8QPa1Mt : 2012-03-26 13:58 ID:8Ur/UaMv [Del]

Your... starter picture... is a crumpled piece of paper.

Whai. Can't you even try to be a little professional about this? Can you please put a little effort into it instead of smacking shit on a paper and calling it a manga?

You're an insult to all artists.

48 Name: Yoshimori : 2012-03-26 14:43 ID:G2fKn3Bp [Del]

>>42 Okay, sense you want to ask me questions SO badly. Just ask any questions you want. And just to tell you I'm only gonna answer then with my opinion.

>>47, >>44 All I have to say to you two is... "3 years"

>>43 Uhmm okay...

49 Name: Seika Chugo !!dZlEviJU : 2012-03-26 14:59 ID:lsLaztE9 [Del]

>>48 I'm not retyping all of that. You should have answered me in the first place. They're all questions that will help develop this stupid thing, so if you can't answer them it's your problem, not mine.
And it's your story; what do you mean you're gonna reply with your opinion? This stuff should be basic ideas to even start your story, you shouldn't need an opinion about them, you should be able to answer them easily.

And I just want to say that makes no sense as a response.
>"Can you please put a little effort into it instead of smacking shit on a paper and calling it a manga?"
>"All I have to say to you two is... "3 years""

What does it matter how long you've worked on it, clearly you need to rework some of it, if not all of it.
If you wanna play that card, then after 3 years of work you should have more to show for it than a crumpled sheet of paper and zero writing skills.
That summary, and the introductions, should have been far better if you've had 3 years to develop it. You should have a whole bunch of other things to show for this after 3 years.
You could have spent 10 years on it. I don't care. If this is all you have to show for 3 years of work, then that's sad.

50 Name: Sky King : 2012-03-26 15:06 ID:5Uk0CDl3 [Del]

>>48 True....

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52 Name: Detective Trap !9eHot4WQvA : 2012-03-26 16:57 ID:vFrhvCzN [Del]

>>48 It took you 3 years to write Hikari on a crumbled up piece of paper. Nice. Oh yeah, I almost forgot the Go Animate videos.

Also, you can never go number 1 if you already have all these haters and no fans. No ones going to want to read your manga if no one ever liked it in the first place.

Oh and from your video you said that you've been doing your research and found out that grade A paper is the best. FAIL. You do know that grade A paper is used for dōjinshi (fanmade manga derp) right? It's ok to use that kind of paper, but if you're trying to get number 1 (which isn't possible for you), then you frickin fail because NO dōjinshi becomes the number 1 manga of all time. And I got all that from Googling "manga paper." So if your research brought you to that conclusion, then your researching skills fail.

And I actually finished watching your first introduction video. LOLOLOLOL YOU FAIL. You don't frickin submit a manga that's already completely made to a Japanese publishing company. Unless all of it is really good, they don't accept that. Dumbass. Japanese manga companies release a new chapter every week/month, not all at once. And if they did release each of your pre made chapters one by one, that would be incredibly stupid.

53 Name: Detective Trap !9eHot4WQvA : 2012-03-26 17:00 ID:vFrhvCzN [Del]

And by really good, I'm mean really really good, like good enough that everyone would like it. Also, if you really want to get published that bad, then submit it to Comiket which is the closet you'll ever get to reaching a Japanese audience. Well of course, either way, it would have to be in Japanese if you wanted to submit it to any Japanese company.

54 Name: BarabiSama!!C8QPa1Mt : 2012-03-26 18:10 ID:8Ur/UaMv [Del]

>>48 No. Three years is nothing in the comic industry. Not to mention that the amount of time spent has nothing to do with it. You could have worked ten years on writing a comic that turned out like shit. Quality and professionalism are the things that matter, and you are lacking both.

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56 Name: Yoshimori : 2012-03-26 19:25 ID:G2fKn3Bp [Del]

>>49 Okay I'm done, I'm done with your smart ass remarks on things, if you didn't like it why even comment!? Like seriously your really getting annoying I would answer your question but sense you said "You don't care" why waste time on that? I swear you just did this to make fun of someone like I didn't ask for help, I asked to look if you had something to say you should of said it like this,

"Look if you had your anime/manga for like 3 years where is the rest of your stuff, what have you came up with?" Instead of this shit, "First
>manga
>anime
which is it?

Anime requires animation; no matter how limited anime's animation can be, without quality art, it will not work. Not to mention in order to market anything without copyright issues, you need original music, and a good original story. That usually takes a team of people to put together, can't be done by a single person.
Manga is the better route to go until you can acquire all of that.
On the topic of manga, (because I have asked a couple successful manga artists about it because I was interested in it), post it online first; webcomics get you used to deadlines and steady release dates/working on a schedule, the basics. Another thing is to get your art out in conventions, even snippets of manga. Even if it doesn't sell well, it helps you get used to marketing when the time comes you actually have to sell these things or a sample at conventions. If people like your art, generally they'll be more interested in your comic.

And on the topic of everything, you need to make sure you have everything developed properly before you even try getting the name out there. Like Misuto said, you're trying to run before you can walk. Don't advertise something scrawled out on a piece of paper, the time you took making this thread and whining about criticism and someone's opinion/advice (who makes several good points) you could have spent improving and making your title image look more professional at least.

Clearly, you aren't an artist; so do you have an artist? Judging by your spelling and grammar, you aren't a writer either; so do you have a writer? For both of these; anime or manga they both start with a script, much like a play; then storyboards, then you have to map out framework and either start voice recording or start mapping out boxes and page layouts.
They all take a considerable amount of time.

You definitely seem passionate, but on another note; don't quit your day job is excellent advice. Manga and books aren't the best career choice because it's shaky. If you write a best seller, you're set; but if you flop time and time again, you might just be scrambling for food!
And just because it's well written or interesting does not mean it will become a best seller. Depends on who gets it and if the wave of chance happens to bring it to a larger audience.

Take twilight for example. Shit. Horribly written, terrible story; curls the toenails of any mythology nut and yet it is popular. Why? Well, I haven't the slightest idea, but people like it.

Writers can spend most of their lives writing what they consider their best book ever, and yet it's one of their worst that flies off the shelves.

You are nowhere near the professional level and need to work on every aspect of it. Like Misuto said, do it as a side thing; take art classes, writing classes, work on improving before you start anything like this because I can almost guarantee if you keep going on like you are, you won't get anywhere."

Like ALL bull, I know this already like WHAT THE HELL really? Everyone else at "least" said something with out trying to be so smart, like you work at T.V Tokyo or something. Obviously you don't, because if you did you wouldn't be on here "trying" to teach me something I already know. Like unless you work with a company BIG, stop commenting on this tread. Obviously I didn't care when you started the anime lecture. Also the other comment about the Naruto game like, WHAT THE HELL dude are you following me or what? (and another smart-ass remark on the Naruto game) Like just leave me alone. If this wastes your time, stop commenting like go post some smart ass remark on there tread. Also for the record your question will be answered on, 3/27/12 that's when i post another Hikari tread.

Not trying to be a dick or an asshole but your really starting to say stuff that people keep repeating and it's getting annoying.

>>48 I may lack that now, but I'll change it.

>>52 >>53 Damn it!! I never known it had to be in Japanese in order to submit it into a Japanese company, damn it.I thought they had like translator's or something. Still what your saying is right, but basically the 3 years was just the story, character's, plot, etc. It's now been 2 months sense I started the research on Japanese mythology. So basically it isn't that bad plus this week I got all the character's created already. So I should be good in creating another summary better than my last one.

57 Name: Detective Trap !9eHot4WQvA : 2012-03-26 19:59 ID:vFrhvCzN [Del]

>>56 They probably do have translators, but there are usually a lot of manga that get submitted each season, and even if yours was really, really good they probably wouldn't take it because it would be easier to publish a different really good manga that's already in Japanese.

58 Name: Seika Chugo !!dZlEviJU : 2012-03-26 20:10 ID:lsLaztE9 [Del]

>>56 *facepalm* So instead of progressing, we regress.
Okay, first off;
"Like seriously your really getting annoying I would answer your question but sense you said "You don't care" why waste time on that?"
Every time you respond you come up with some stupid ultimatum.
I would do this, but since you did this, I won't. Grow up. Everything I've asked of you is stuff you should already know and have completed on this thing if you've worked on it for 3 years. Don't know why you're getting pissy, I'm being a 'smart ass' because you're being a dumbass.
Most everything you say contradicts the way you're acting and other responses you've made.

I did 'look' and I made my opinion evident in later posts when I had. Pardon me for trying to help an amateur who seems to not know the basics of what he's doing.

Why are you quoting my entire first post?
If you know all of this, then it should show more than it does.
If everything I've said is "all bull" as you claim, and you already know all of it, again, as you claim, then you're just as full of bull as I am, no?

I don't try to be smart. This is how I type. Don't like it? Too bad. And I sound smart because I've done my research and asked manga artists when that was my fascination. I'm an artist and a writer. Comics and manga are kind of a no-brainer to even think about when it comes to research and developing your skills.

I never claimed to be a professional. And for somebody who knows so much, none of it shows.

And no, I comment on any game that I have interest in commenting on. Someone asked what anime Yoshimori is from, and I answered them, it being your thread had nothing to do with it, it was the top thread, so I commented. You posted about the PS3, and I told you I didn't have a PS3 or the game. You proceeded to continue the conversation when it could've ended there, so don't start with that.

This doesn't waste my time. I really don't have much else to do, which is why I go on this site to begin with. My laptop's artistic capabilities are broken so I can't work on what I usually do. Dollars-bbs and deviantart are my life right now.

Why couldn't you answer any of them when I asked them though? Doesn't make any sense.
Didn't even realize I was being a smartass, felt I was giving relatively constructive criticism.

And don't make another thread. You're gonna collect even more people bitching at you if you do. Keep it on this one.
Threads can't be deleted so you'll have the entire site on your ass.

Well we're in the same boat now. You have repeated yourself time and again every post. I don't mean to repeat what others say, but it can't be helped sometimes. If I'm replying to you, then I'm responding to you. I go post by post. I read a paragraph, then respond to it. By the time I get to reading someone else's post, then it's already been written.
If you're getting the same thing from different people, then maybe you should look into it and take their advice.

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60 Name: BarabiSama!!C8QPa1Mt : 2012-03-27 08:38 ID:8Ur/UaMv [Del]

>>56
"Also[,] for the record[,] your question will be answered on[] 3/27/12[;] that's when [I will] post another Hikari [thread]."

Please don't. We can and will rip you a new asshole if you do. Obviously, this community doesn't like your idea. You have no right to be rude to them because they don't, and you would have to be an idiot to make a whole new thread when people don't even like the first one.

61 Name: Misuto!M4ZBq07Cs. : 2012-03-27 12:06 ID:52TkMwcZ [Del]

Seika, Barabi, Trap,
it occurs to me we're arguing with a brick wall of stupid.

My original purpose in offering criticism was to prevent him from wasting time on a pointless endeavor, but he seems dead set on being a complete failure forever. He has resorted to Super Tunnel Vision, focusing only on Seika's insults rather than the part where everyone offers real advice and criticism, and it is at that point I find it an even more pointless endeavor to dissuade him.

There are dozens of successful comic books writers.
There are hundreds of aspiring artists who are on the right track, even if only a handful will make it big.
There are thousands of fanboys who have no respect for the process, and will absolutely never produce anything of worth due to their incompetence and inability to open their mind.

It would barely make a splash if we were to fix one dumbfuck, and I feel we've put far too much effort into it as it is. Let's let this thread die?

62 Name: Sky King : 2012-03-27 13:56 ID:5Uk0CDl3 [Del]

Misuto I agree completely. Let the thread die.

63 Name: Yoshimori : 2012-03-27 14:40 ID:G2fKn3Bp [Del]

>>60 I don't care what you do this is the, DOLLARS last time I checked and plus stop acting like an ass. Like you wouldn't rip anything into anyone.

>>58,62 I don't care what you guys think, I'm still gonna continue making Hikari treads so therefor get use to it. Also they wouldn't be as bad as this one, I do admit that this on didn't have much detail. (Even though I was rushing.) But the other treads will be 100x better than this one.

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65 Name: Sleepology !4a6Vun8zuw : 2012-03-27 20:52 ID:Omi4OUcC [Del]

MY GOD! Shut up!! Nobody likes your bullshit, get over it! Take it somewhere else, like reddit, or tumblr. GEEZUS!

66 Name: TheDarkMan : 2012-03-27 21:29 ID:uVEvI6Hw [Del]

>>63 just use the same thread and post updates. try to scedule chat room meetings to talk about it. Keep in mind that people may not like it so take a break from the threads for a week. Come back when you're more organized. Do it for your comics sake whaen you rant on people who criticize it, it makes you and Hikari look bad.

67 Name: tsuki : 2012-03-28 05:27 ID:3T3z8GNa [Del]

:/

68 Name: rio : 2012-03-28 09:06 ID:eyEJBxL1 [Del]

Ok Yoshimori i think you should try to get in contact with someone in the anime buisness and ask them. maybe they will help you. I would love to read this and i'll check to see if it's big when i'm older. I'll be supporting it till the end. You see i had this anime I wanted to make BIG but it's not looking to good so i can realate to you. and as for the rest of you, why can't you just support him. That's why you guys can be assholes, i mean come on we are supposed to make the world better, we are not going to do that by complaining about how he sucks at what he does.

69 Name: rio : 2012-03-28 09:06 ID:eyEJBxL1 [Del]

Ok Yoshimori i think you should try to get in contact with someone in the anime buisness and ask them. maybe they will help you. I would love to read this and i'll check to see if it's big when i'm older. I'll be supporting it till the end. You see i had this anime I wanted to make BIG but it's not looking to good so i can realate to you. and as for the rest of you, why can't you just support him. That's why you guys can be assholes, i mean come on we are supposed to make the world better, we are not going to do that by complaining about how he sucks at what he does.

70 Name: Seika Chugo !!dZlEviJU : 2012-03-28 09:50 ID:lsLaztE9 [Del]

>>61 Sounds like a plan.

>>68 And if you actually read our posts, we gave alot of advice. We weren't just complaining. We told him what we didn't like, what to improve on, how and some info on the business itself. In the beginning we were supportive which is why we offered our help in the first place.
I however have run out of support, especially after his most recent comment.

Please read all the posts before you jump to conclusion he didn't bring it on himself.

71 Name: Yoshimori : 2012-03-28 19:36 ID:G2fKn3Bp [Del]

>>66 your completely right, thanks for the help I'm gonna make a chat room about it. :D

>>70 Why are you still commenting? I swear something is REALLY wrong with you like, I get it okay. (Change Hikari a little bit more) No need to rub it in my face. *Looks confused* Like first it was "Let the tread die." Now it's, "Read the past treads." CLEARLY the last threads were bull like what you where saying I already known that stuff. Than you just started saying smart crap that got annoying. Than I just stop caring after your smart remarks. Like STOP acting. In the first place you should of said something like this, (>>66)

"Just use the same thread and post updates. try to scedule chat room meetings to talk about it. Keep in mind that people may not like it so take a break from the threads for a week. Come back when you're more organized. Do it for your comics sake whaen you rant on people who criticize it, it makes you and Hikari look bad." Instead of what you said. (Didn't feel like copy and pasting your crap) But you know what you said. If you don't like Hikari why bother keep commenting? Clearly it seems like you have no interest in it no? So no interest= No more commenting am I right?

>>68 Thanks also don't read the other post he didn't give me know help, just told me something I already known its all bull, but still one day when Hikari is BIG I'll make sure to help your manga/anime out so in anyway I can. K?

72 Name: Yoshimori : 2012-03-28 19:39 ID:G2fKn3Bp [Del]

>>70 Also forgot to add this but... YOU HAD A SMART ASS TOUCH TO EVERYTHING YOU SAID SO HOW IS THAT GONNA HELP ME? IT HELPS ME TO BECOME AN ASSHOLE.

73 Name: TheDarkMan : 2012-03-28 23:07 ID:MXBJBp+q [Del]

>>71 no problem but dont use the threads for about a week so you can get organized for responces and content reveals.

74 Name: BarabiSama!!C8QPa1Mt : 2012-03-28 23:57 ID:y6FTJqcm [Del]

>>61 :V Point taken. Just let say two more things...

>>63 Yep, it's the Dollars, and despite your fanboy dreams, WE HAVE RULES. You can't just go around remaking your threads because you got butthurt over people giving you a reality check.

>>71 THREAD, NOT 'TREAD'.

75 Name: Misuto!M4ZBq07Cs. : 2012-03-29 00:54 ID:40tIyqg6 [Del]

God damnit, this is still at the top?

For fuck's sake, you people.

76 Name: rio : 2012-03-29 06:30 ID:eyEJBxL1 [Del]

O.O

77 Name: Yoshimori : 2012-03-29 14:33 ID:G2fKn3Bp [Del]

>>74 Well SORRY for my miss spelling, not my fault I type so fast.

>>73 K I'll mke sure I do that :D

>>76 -_-

78 Name: D.T.K : 2012-04-01 01:20 ID:0SGbywMz [Del]

you should really read bakuman to figure out how difficult it is to be number one NEVER say you can tell that it's gonna be number one because 3 or 2 years to do one FREAKN' chapter you should really think, most manga creators have to do one or more chapters in one week, and work on the drawings, one last thing the plot seems overused a normal schoolkid with powers? normal kids dont have FREAKING powers! I rest my case.